Defences of Canada, 21 Feb 1865 (2)

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Defences of Canada, 21 Feb 1865 (2) - source of increased difficulty to tho American...
source of increased difficulty to tho American Oorernmeot. uur or nre years za one mi;6t hare talked of American srisdom, bnt since then we had seen that American institu - toons were rjuiteai subject to fiU and pist! of rcusion as ere those of any other pwple. On this point he would itated : - If HerMajeitT'aGorernraent hare not resisted mora airenuouaiy than they hitherto done these illejal ami - nn. jiicnaiT proowia me cause is to be found in their belief that the pwioos and excitement of the contest hare for a time obscured the sense of initie n.l nmrrt i.'v:.t. uallr distinguish the Unite.! States, and that with Uks jio!opi snecoarcst calm eontUeration will return, and iust riew of thee tranasctioai will be taken." ' It wits quite true that the passions and excitement of the contest had obscured their sense of Justice and respect for tttr, anl when the contest was over possibly ther "might tarn their iron against nu What was the lesson whieh recent report taught ns ! Were wo to learn that peace and iinion in America meant war ajainat England! It appeared to him that wu u.irht infer u ,rK . 1.. j '.. - ..T A few days ago then was a re,rt that peace had been patched up and, the telegraph informed us thatthia peace WMf.Mindedon what was loown aa the Monroe doctrine, which went the length of a'nrming that no European Biuntry ahould hoi I any part of America.' He admitted that the Go - vernmrnt of the United .Sutes sormed to bo in 'frirridlr cor. respondfuce with the Gorcrnment of this c - mntry ; btit was the Oovenio.ent alwars ablo to control the - tple Lot their lonUhipi onlr reflect on what must Uaro followed if the 7 .General Pi x had been fullo wed. In December 1'ro - tulcut Lincoln revoked tha order iven by that General for the crossing of the Wndary ; and ret so amiah!ydi,rwd .. - .,.um iu.i sieuerai uix apKrcl to le that, - writing on the Mh of October, Lord Lvons said " I shoul.l observe that General Ui x spoke to me in a very srmua ana mvnajy manner, and cxpresscl the - nust Concilia: V.ry intention v and I. ahould wbi Ur.Sewsrd to be in - ..i.n. - i uu 1 ieei muen obligal to the Ceneral." " Jle noped - tlie accounts were exaggerate! which dewrribed American hoitHity to Eoghuid as intrnsc,but that such horn - s u . uia prevail 10 sme extent , he believed. It was true that we hW presem - louroeutmlityaa between the com - tatapti ; bit even those who remained nentrnl on political ZT ' upon wiui uisirnsc ana dislike ii ir one lity l to prevail in America against this countm might U elncy owing, to otir neutrality. If this wasthe state of things in' America, if lw .Imnr . :.,; . :i 1. . I - f isSe.l that tt was imminent, because at any time peaea Iff 'T1 y,a rn" of Am - rica might be turned against u - ." - :"r sordships would do weU to omsider what was th. coniwion of a Jam in Canadai Were the defence! of that colony in a satisfactory still. fir... v... r. .that the number of volunteers was 21,700, and the Jttrorf',w,.lt!"ta' """.'f the Government could ! "t 1. exclnsireof officers, .n.dd numbers 5 With resist to the latter force he w.d to k 1.,. nolJe friend the ,Seerrtary for War when the Government would be able to take the ballot.' Two Aears ago he rectare.1 to put a question to the Kto Dokef eweas'Ie on th:s very sul.j - jct, and the answer of the noble luke was a most unsatisfactory one : for he had to Ml their tor.lsl.tps that the Cjnadians were unwilling to bestir th'em - - se.ves and that their regirde.1 the proi.uaal made to them I.rh:i count rr on the sunjwt 0 their defences as one n,ca incT oa;nt not to havo been exiled upon to adopt Isow thongh - a dilTcrent spirit might have len manifesto.1 in. Cai.a.i since that time, tlw step, taken bv the cmouy itself would , have to ha clostlr watched. Colonel I.h.T' ha'1 "ificial iatimat.ion of the course rhi;h the rornal t.ov. inmrnt pr..p.o to mlopt with rmpcet - to th? J'tioas which I had the h:.nour to submit to thent :but 1 Lav, the Ut reason for stating tint ther concur gcuerallv U. - u hole ..f i,,vpr,.,als. sad that they are. ?,idy to inthe. wotlicrj.ountr, lu a fair and becoming spirit in .f CmaTla UWiwure ? Wisiliefof tdisdrfcnetf . it Z hu J k"?!' H0 th" l'I - ition hid ln '""j - Mcd. Hal anvthiiiglsn done' an v measures of d,rcnce..l;een ari ;, or; were Cana.ta and t!,o m.K.r country feutinj with .each otlicr ? Two 7 ct - rtaiclr, l,a was one) ofv tbe who "would '.' - t' - ntsri to give what s:ue might consider to lie a Zil??'i I,, - .rU that, if Cna la re - UA U Kovtae for 1!. , .U.Vnce. we should leave Canada molumint fv;.i ; Vi - w "ere - l..n - - ,.;. Tt ..uwio CM to ns; and aa r, J: V , Ul i" - ot ,W.3j il'!f - a hng as it levied diftV . vui, mis cmiiilrv. ns lonj aa it rn la.l ', niay provide for yourself: we shall with. '7 7 - '' s - rariagouriruwis) tlier - ttdfeiKxs meant notonlr tl. .t;. .1 i!'.Vj'J,!rJ - tio.n I3',1 ' lwsrac K this Itsto of affairs ha L howerer, changed since , , X. t sflS , .f"'p Coufe - leration hail been coaitrici it was the same as with th. 1 t , V. u wrljr; th, younger brabaEnU; 1 ""o do for thoiiisclTt! iher whuld no tonwr V. ' 1 the parent. Cut it wV to the imm&., JC?0 The Eeport Vouched principallyon two point one, the fortifications necessary .for the defence of. Canada, the "ther, the measures - taken for the improrement of th organisation and the system of training of the Canadian militia. With regard to tbo first, as soon as this Report wai placed in his hands, it reoeired immediate and serious eda sideratien from the Government, and ther entered into communications based upon theae Report with Lord Monck, nu uiej luiurnieu mm uiai mey snouia 10 the ltiinates of the nreaent rear nrorina to Parliimant ...n.l - 1. the Improvement of the fortification! of Quebec, and that they looked to the Canadian Government to take steps for iwumsuuu 01 nootreai, ana 1 or tne erection of any works whieh might be necessary to the westward. The Earl of DERBY. what about Halifax f , Earl TH? fiREY wntil.l tt.V.t.. .1. il v I - 7" . . - . ' .iwrwsros, UU" 1' 1 1 Va " w nowe rnenas question. - uuoniv ixicrrrugto ianaaa. ilia uovernment under - uxk 10 pro vi. ic loresie necassarr Imnmvam.nt. I t,. .1. fence 6f Quebec. wVch hl alwars heen ennshtxrarf an Tm. penal fortres. and which, though formerly of great rtrength, like other fortification required improvement to meet the altered circumstance of warfare. They had proposed to the Canadian Government, to umlrrLstra tka fw;t...n i I Montreal and the western pbinU. The Canadian Gorern - I ment was well aware of the obligation! which rested on them, 1 an.l when they had r - ceired the neeewiary answer from the CanaIian Parliament, were ready, to undertake those works With respect to Halifax, a rote had been token for works there for some years post in tho Est! mates, and in thi year' vote V IHre'nm would betaken. With regard to the Can a - dian miajtht. no doubt the - arrangements made some time MW were not very satisfactory, but since the time of which his noble friend had spoken, and since' the statement made by the noble duke, whoso, loss they must alwav lament, a new Government had been formed In ranadawMoi, .... tained wider views than its predecessors, and according to the information Her Majesty's Government had recoivod. w. - w Meiermineu to turn its attention to the question of tha militia, and to Uke measures" to put it in a state of effl - Jjcncy. The first processes of the ballot had taken place since ' '"K"' w no out.t tnat the present Government of Canada was determined to doit duty n this matter. Her Majesty's Government would be will. ingtoauom inem an me assistance in their power in the training of oflioers and ron - commiiwioncd officer! in all that iui;;in vk reiuirea to put tueiorcc in an efficicntstate. The result of Colonel Jcrvoise's Report hal been commanicatp.1 to Lonl Monck, but the particular and detail of this purely rr v V " - "V" """" iim ine - pronnce ol.tho tXinvlian Government In the - peculiar circumstances of Canada'no doubt the chief difficult wits with a lalion to bring them together toacentralized point, and unite irn:,piii1.npii.i unuiors rw wecuor smooth. Hy the combination of somethinirof the Volunteer n',1 tho Miiit;. ai - uiaaaeiiaunirin mis country, it might ho possible to effect an efficienttraininz of the Canadian mlliti. tt.Sl caning on tnem 10 mare tneeat sscr.hce of leaving their homes to go to a distance for a conaiderable periojl. Ire hl iust learnt that about R.OX) men had been rained bv the ballot, and that the training of officers wa gqie on" satisfactorily, and eveir .report he received from 1 in - Chief Sir F. Williams le.1 him to bcb'evfthal tho Cuna - uiiiu wou.ii do lounn to lfl a most useful force. in this state or things they thought this country had a dutr to r - erform in this matter, and. therefore m ask .the Parliament of thi country to incur a cprUin expense in erecting fortitieations in that pvt of Her Maiesrr' nvmiuions. nut at iub same time ther tnl haI fst - this country shonl l le railed urwn to Tindertske the whole l tIl,',c'1"t' hat. ,hi - t tne Canadian Government and people 7 " 'i - '" - "wmon 01 1110 extndi - ture upon themselves, and he had reison to hope that ther were aware of theirdntv, and thitin that resjiect as in others ..ui ...rm .i.iimciii colonies n.i mw consnlerahle strides in a short time. (Hear, hear.) Ther had shown a spirit or determination nhd good sense, and the k - ndin - men of those provinces had shown a spirit of statosms'nship 1 ; - "".' "iviBM - ives ana grainving 13 their well, wishers in this countrv. Upon the nrineir.V . V. 1 tinned it wns intended to propose that this country should .. 1, r anno call unon the pro. rincos to nndcrtike a still larger share. Ho believed that they would revlily respond to that call, and that in a short ir 3 .V". 01 ." - Icn! W01i't "3 atib!Uhe.l in Her Majesty orth Amjneaa jossessions. .The Earl of DERIS V. Tho present state of relations be - iwccu tiro reile.ral Mates of America and this ronnfrr ?. so grave that I should lnve bocn desiroui of maintaining an absolute silence, and of leaving to Her Maiesl.'s ment the. responsibility of dealing with this difficult and delicato question without in any war sevkimr to inereau n. uiincuiiy 01 incir by any interference on my part; nrT.. ., .v. - , , k only intended to spend 50,0001. this year. I tusri of UtLKUY Thsn I srant to V.. - kl. I threaten anH Immiaml l. n. I if or four yeari until the fortificationt are complete. (Hear I hear.) The Government are to ask this veir nil fIV on ... mT "" sosai sum 01 itis.i,tsjt. to be expended on fortifi. I cations at Ouebsc while the Canadian flomnm.nt . I M spend 4(X),O0Of. or JOO.OOOf. at Montreal And jel' th) tmri, wimisung tne urgencyof the danger and the I of mar be reduosd In "OfirV an k.f I. k. threatening aspect of affair, propose to spend 2D0.0OCV. upon I certain fortificaUons, and only sks for 50,(m7 thu year which indeed may be reduced to Z0.0fXliL 10 that In the course of tea veari these" fortifications, npon whieh the 7, aafety of the Jforth American prorineei depewl. wiU be eonrtrucla.1, while tho danger, if there be any, may occur 9 not in vasrshnttn th. LJvJ ..u. tii' CL JV , deprecata ss much as any one the use of Isnguic" which may tend to Increase tho eiasreration of fe.tinVl,l,k I on prevail, and I fear doe preratl, in the Unite.! State wu..,, to, , uuir common pruuenoo I noma nentlr threatenlni. an!l T mn.f ska v "nl - nentir threatening, and I must y that a far a I can ea t ie Oorernment bare pot ttken. araato ttot to r'" nioet th. great, urgent, and imminent danger. (Hear, hear.) 1 nelicrettut theCanala in a pecuniarr sense are rnth.v a .clr.wpartro.vp., - Iriagour'triK,, there wit W rrl, - er l - f ln the occasion of the 'Addiw." fo the ,ZV', nrr - ,wW.:rftf those troopl "but I ' mwo .wt "1,n I"tingout1.ii.,,.ly what I luu i..rca. - niivg state 0r a!lirs in North America, expressing no opinion as the course to K. mm.i leavinif, to Her Majesty's Gorernmerit the responsibility of w.inf ,..vuiiuus n, unxh ,aj iwigiMe ttancrt. Bat Her Majesty' Gorernmcnt liave now taken a Itep. which I think enlira! justific the queation pnt by the noble lord opposite, (Hear, hear.) Her Majesty' Government have laid before I'ariUmcnt a report howing the dcfcnceles state of one of our most important colonies, and calling tha attention of this country a well aa of foreign jwuntrict to that deftnea - lest condition s and In so doing it em to taa that Her Majeaty Gorernment rather invito discussion this subject, and aeek to aaeartsin, not la a formal shape, but from tha eiprealon of individual msmK. wbu U tha opialaa af Parliament, j I cannot help thi.king. bow ever, that, if Her Majesty - . Oortmnient &!.tr did not tell ut how th. colony wMjtTb. Z.h ! oetatlmV: Above ll.bed,d - UU wbaTwa. toli." on the laltcs NVica had been riven oemlcrlL.t the American fioraenmsat iatalnl 12 trtaltl,s treaty of 1817, aod to establish a foel?. Mr. Ku - cll. la his aU. work oa C, economy. I say, therefore, that it would bo a Ua'.inj - di - r0! lti.1 drain upon our reree and if it were possible that a large fiWSSil rata and esUhMsh their Independence, I do not believe it would bo eitlier for the interest - or ths honie nf tk:. I 00JJnto endoavrmr tomaintain them in an unwillingand 'ntire v. . "ay. nowerer, as they are earnest in their dot re to mi nU n that con. t nexion. the tie not onlr nf lnt,ri W t C. " - ... ?.. to socond tneir enoru at far a we possibly can. I differ ' American risesmons. for I think that the command of the ha. Brunswick are of tha utmost rain, to n. i I proved LWsV. .hail .JnmTV; wmipT to which I nu tersralSrh ;.. ,a: :.j. - i . - 7. i; ' . . .1'. oi .ri'i sejsisioi ironius,not D? tneir I .a o HacTnVt ,, sWrZ K IS tho countrv wbo,wiilb7 T ' howerer unsuccessfully, by a neutraUtv at all event nor? - 11,.. farour.ible to the North tlTan MiSmf, I say that underthos, .Uow the coly f? to be wrested from us. withoat putting forth the Uke ' whole . trength of the empire, aided aa we sho'uld be by the go to colonUU themsclrc, wouU be an endless .Uicraco and n. nominv to which I hopo this Muntrv S n.Zh. (Hear'hear) country win never submit, to E.rlOIiAVVILLE.1 cannot help thinkin - tha' the noble lonUnfoUowing tho culfnf tAZ hind me and charging the Govcrnmont wi h iodiretion in lading this report Wore Parliament, ha, token ? aggeratodvlewoftheruhject. I do not see how it is pol .iUeto come to Parliament for moneyed Dennf - r'1. IIear,hear.") - without some official d. tupoa which T lobaaesuch in application, and, a Jffitt "? retaryifSUtafor War ha. already - .xi.1, it was really tl .i - w UlCiruwa LHTU - ,L - i - i - . n i.i.t - - a .a ..... .. . . iiiai ii,uie. aueuuuiciorusaysnatudiia.n Menanilereatchanm I a of pedicy i to bo adopted bv Her MaWtr. rWr.; f li.unliv..kt..ii';.i.,i.. A.'., o - .... . I ........ ..... v. .u.ulcyau me w.rca Uirecn. II deny, howerer, that there has been aay grest change. (Hear ' hear.) The defences of Canada luvo bjan a snb?et nf tk. " met anxious colZonTT.rti. rt ZZ, l.1? . . t ..,.. bowcrcr, asacrU most positively that there has been - a Pt udden change in our policy. Sow, there it no doobtthat, Canada is bound to t'keiier share, and that a conaiderablo one, in the defence of her country. What ha been tb. ih. nr - At one time the Government Canada absolutely . . . ,m ii uoiuy recently ... hat we have ha.1 a Grernment thero with which wo coul 1 - m dosl at all u,n the subject, and it was not, therefore, until ? ... n ' .ii, - , . v,.'erc'or, - Dn,'l Uimplamt the Government W come forward m thU honoarahl, now; and patriotic spint that wa Iil any real eronnil up - f'th on which we could como. to Parliamjnt with any proposal' which wu likely to meet with tho subtest mioc.. .1 da. not. know that anv greater proof of the be good will entertained towards u. oy the Jour can bo lduced than the following rea.duti.Hi, which w adopted raiwl at a conference of delegAt - he! 1 at (ia'elio in reference to revTr ?t - ( - . , 7 . . . mw. ua,w i. ininr Hf"': ,tl,jlc taryn'pl9Vte honourable, spirit by rea.lT I "w.t ti" ,' VTT". Z "i" - There is no them, doubttbst thequestion of the lakes is a very difficult one. but I Th. vi 1 - , tune in .Noveinber that this question eeived lad been rsased. Tha ideUlor. say. that there ha. lea a slarery. peat no ation of treaty. That j. a very atrontj expression the to be aptUe. to the conduct of tha Americana, leli.ving a. part of w. do tliat they hare, ,n putUng an arm! p,r,nue cutter Just a. I 2m.iT""i." - r i0,.'? '."W .tWf. most patrwUo ooure. - , ont ihowing too, do unnatural alarm, and had b lnour discuss... on thu suLject to speak with the acted rrestest modrraUou - ud csioiDoaa. As lnu kn.... .. I l . threartrong foelinp which aniniat, both d 'oS 1

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  2. 21 Feb 1865, Tue,
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