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under the old arrangement. . ' - .Without taking any vote, the resolution, on motion or Air. Vinton, the House went into . committee of the whole on the state of the Union. Mr. Smith, of Indiana, in the chair, and resumed the , cuuuuuauuu ot uia general appropriation out, tne question being on the amendment proposed by Mr. Kmbree to the item providing for the milcnge of members, wnicn amendment was to require that tne mileage snail De computed by the nearest post routes Mr. Embree addressed the committee at leiiKth. in support of his amendment, and against the present . system, and in favor of numerous reforms which he deemed necessary in connection with the lemalatioii of the country. In the course of bis remarks he was Interrogated by Mr. Hall, of Missouri, who incmired whether he (Mr. Embree) expected to be a member of the next congress. ea Mr. Pettit. Oh no he is a candidate for Gov ernor. Mr. Embree. Whether I am a member of the nex Congress or not will depend upon! - circumstances of the same character as those by which ' our political opponents in thst quarter appear to be jusi now mucn anecieu. Mr. Kmbree, in conclusion, sxpressed tbe hops that members might be brought to a direct and full vote on tnis subject. Much confusion and merriment was occasioned hv the concluding remarks of Mr. Embree, end by the questions propounded, which had not subsided, when Mr. Venabte rose to address the committee The Chairman requested that gentlemen would respect the dignity of the House; and if they would indulge in mirth, that it might be less boisterous. Mr. Venable proceeded, and replied generally, in great good humor, interrupted frequently with bursts of merriment, to reply to Mr. Embree. When that gentleman came here and spoke of his wise, and honest, and virtuous constituents, he must tell him that he (M. V.) represented no such constituency roars laugntcrj or any who desire to carry out such reforms as that gentleman advocated Tlie constitu ency which he represented were not to be moved or seduced by the arts of the demagogue. They would spurn him with contempt if he was " to go among them and call them virtuous, wise and patriotie. II is mileage and pay here, left him, at the . close of the session, not a dollar. His constituents felt that the laborer in their service wss entitled to an ne received he was not unwilling to go before them and say that members here are not paid enough. The puny efforts and flourish of trumpets, which had been made here for self - glorification, he despised ror uiu ae ueaire to soar aioii on wings fledged with the quills of the letter - writers, dec. Mr Oree.ey rose to address the committee. He thought the arguments of the gentleman from North Carolina, (Mr. Venable,) much stronger against the practice, than any thing which had been said on his side. lie, (Mr. Greeley,) had not undertaken to discuss the question of liberty of conscience, but of jus tiee. The law was not just, and he desired the remedy applied. He bad charged no one, in the article published, or here, with receiving more than the law allowed him it was of the l.iw that be complained. And he desired to ask of every gentleman present, whether any one had been charged with receiving - more than he actually had received . Mr. Turner (Mr. Greeley giving way) said that he ' had been charged in the article with receiviug 893 excess of mileage over wht he would be entitled to by the nearest post route. It was also elated that by the uearest post route the distance was 600 miles. Now that statement, he repeated, wi.s unquali - liedly false. If the gentleman iiad desired to speak the truth in that publication, and taken an air hue from his (.Mr. T ') residence to Washington as the basis of his calculation, he would have found the distance by that line to be over MX) mil s; and yet he resided more than 800 miles west and 200 miles north of that line. Mr. Harralsnn (Mr. Greeley still giviug way) said that the conclusions were drawn from books not used at the Department. He had referred his own esse to the Poatmaster General, and that officer had stated the distance by the nearest post route to be as he had been allowed. There was, therefore, great injustice in charging him with receiving an excess of SI 60 Mr. Greeley proceeded to defend his estimates, and to insist thst they had been based on the routes traveled and the nearest post routed. Mr. Barrow, (Mr. Greeley again giving way,) said that the sum set down in the article was S'i5 1 more than he had actually raet ived. This might be a typographical error, and he should not have taken any part in the debate, had members not been challenged to point out errors. Mr. Greeley proceeded when Mr. Brown, of Mississippi, (Mr Greeley strain yielding the noor.) read from the article in the Tribune the part which alleges that the facts are derived from the ''last official list." Now, he said, the gentleman from New York had known, for the last three weeks, that it was not the list ofheial list, and yet ha Still persisted that the statement is correct, lie read from the last post - office account, published '. in 1846, four years later, in which his own distance is put down at precisely that for which he now receives mileage. Mr. Greeley insisted that that was a circuitous route. Mr. Biown. No, it is the near sat post - route, as sUted by the latest othcial list. Mr. Greeley proceeded to notice the remarks heretofore made about his sitting here and editing his pa - per at the rate of d a day, drawn from the public treasury. Ac. He was disposed to do his full share of the public business, and these remarks, therefore, were outef place. Reforms were always the ' beggars" business, and always unpopular with those whom they affected. Mr. McKay here interrupted Mr. Greeley as members had been challenged to point out errors and was proceeding to read from the article in the Tribune, when Mr. G. declined yielding the floor again, and the chairman decided that Mr. McKay could only make his explanation with Mr. G's consent, who was entitled to the floor. Mr. G., however, finally yielded. Mr. McKay, slier reading, said that the gentleman wss not mistaken as to hia post - office, but he had neglected to state that he resided some nules bevond, and had no allowance therefor. Mr. Greeley laid it Wis impossible to avoid errors of this kind. How could he have known that the gentleman resided beyond? Mr.Schenck (Mr. Greeley again yielding the floor) sud that he understood the gentleman to disclaim any charge of fraud, or disrespect to members, but merely to state that he desired a change of the law. t He then read from the article in the Tribune, the italicised word "honorable," several times applied to members therein, and inquired whether the expression was intended to be ironical and if so, how it could be consistent with his declarations on this Jloor? Mr. Greeley did not mean it as a sneer at any but such members who might be lisble to the imputation implied All were pronounced to be honorable, because they acted within the letter of the law. Mr Schenck. Did the gentleman then moan to be understood as saying that everything was honorable Which was lawful Mr. Greeley. Not exactly that. He did not think it would be quite honorable for the gentleman, when it appeared by his nearest poet route his distance was 600 miles by a good traveled road, it would be quite right to charge round by the way of Boston. Mr Schenck. Does the gentleman mesii to say that it is dishonorable in a member tj receive the inileaga which the law may award him. Mr. Greeley thought it might not be quite mvI. Mr. Schenck said that he was not his conscience keeper. He (Mr. S) had uniformly advocated a rhauge in the l:iw, and compensation by the nearest post roates, and he should continue to do so; but he ilid not feel UiVf Called upon to denounce or sneer at to it It in S. A by n - to in I

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The Baltimore Sun
(Baltimore, Maryland)
12 Jan 1849, Fri  • Page 4

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