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I A iiTi1rh(iTft ILLLlLJil(OiL call f. It i i if" 1 1 guidance on controversial issues of our time, and we would like to voice our opinions on 'them." They got some guidance, as the district voted to ask for a repeal of the draft law. The convention said: "Be it resolved that the English District encourage the government through our elected officials to repeal the present draft law and we request our elected legislatures to establish a new draft system in which the conscience of the draftee is recognized and respected so that those who conscientiously object to military service in all or specific wars may have the choice of serving their country in non-military capacity." Delegates also asked to encourage education on drug abuse but avoided any recommendations in the debate of revising penalties on the pos-session and sale of on their minds about (ioil's Word; instead, they turn timid and try to please the passive and prejudiced people who arc often in front of their pulpits "Why must worship be planned only for older, frightened or prejudiced people?" THE DECLARATION" pledges support in helping to overcome the generation gap and asked for involvement in decision making. In decision making, they said, "must there be catering only to the declining segment of the church? "Young people like to be part of the general activities of the church. They resent being used only as a labor force for unattractive jobs which no one rise wants to do." The youths suggested that they could be given keys to churches and asked "if they could meet without always having elders oversee their Carbond.ile, 111 f.

it the convention should have had more youth and given them a vote on the floor. They were allowed two votes on each committee. Yet the youth were grateful for some progress. "The greatest thing that has happened is that the convention was interested enough in the youth of the church to have us ithe youth i represented and heard. This is art honest interest to plan, discuss, and act on issues in the church along with the youth," said Tamela Hassig, is, Michigan State freshman from St.

James Lutheran Church, Grosse Pointe Farms. Steve Baldner. of the Gloria Dei Lutheran Church, 17101 W. Seven Mile, a sophomore at the University of Michigan, said the convention should also have set up "seminars for discussion of theological and doctrinal issues, nst opposed to the rather technical business matters." The English District is the. successor of the English Lutheran Synod of Missouri, organized in 1SS7 when their members were first generation immigrants from Germany and other countries.

The English District joined the Lutheran Ch re Missouri Synod as a non gegraphical district in 1911. YOl'TIIS, however, felt the convention could have tackled the gut issues of war and peace, among other issues. One youth delegate, Jon -May, 22, of Wilniette, a recent graduate In religion at Darmouth, said "more direct confrontation and participation on all levels of the convention was needed on more relevant issues. If the church refuses to take positive constructive stands it will continue to lose support of contemporary youth." i Armstrong, 18, of Chicago, and a sophomore at Southern Illinois University, sw Pamela llassig: Allowing a youth voice was big step. the the beautiful oneness of Christ." They maintain there is no separation according to age in Christ and no separation concerning issues and concerns.

"We want specific Jon May: More direct use of youth on all levels. activities; if they could bring unchurched friends for a wide variety of informal activities?" THE YOUTHS asked for "small groups, face -to -face and person-to-person chances 9 Can Satanists and Christians Talk Together: BY IIIIEY II. WARD Free Press Religion Writer BY mLEV II. WARD Free Press Religion Writer Lutheran youth delegates to a national Lutheran convention in Ann Arbor this week won acceptance of a new youth manifesto for the church. They did not call it a mani-festo, but a proposal and statement, but it has all the demands, though clothed in polite language, of a restless and largely frustrated group.

The statement, "The Youth Caucus Speaks," written by 80 non voting youths, for presentation at the national biennial convention of the English District of the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, was accepted and sent to the churches in a near unanimous vote by the 350 voting delegates from 213 district congregations in 14 states and two Canadian provinces. The manifesto or statement is complete and reflects the concerns of modern theologians as well as youth. Lutheran theologian Martin Marty, of Chicago was on hand as adviser to the youth. It is likely to have a wider than Lutheran circulation. THE YOUTHS dealt with worship, planning, and leadership of the church.

"Worship, first of all, means much to us more than most adults think," the youths said. "But sterile, conventional, rambling, and re-, petitions worship will not attract our generation." They asked for a role In "planning and celebrating at worship." This includes, they said, integrating youth concerns and formats into the Sunday morning hour, rather thanbeing relegated to unofficial weekday or Sunday evening times. ALSO called for a sense of joy and boldness of speaking in connection with the cpmmunion rite. think people should share their sense of happiness at being forgiven and their sense of participation in a community around Christ's table. is not just a matter for single lonely persons, but a real community expression.

With communion, we look for clear preaching of God's Word; sermons should be brief, constructive, well organized; they have to keep in mind the interests of various age groups. "Too often we learn from pastors that they do not feel free to preach what is fully "AIL, Satan!" "Rege Satanas!" As absurd as the 'A Protestant-Catholic-Jewish America, it is being heard, and in the Detroit area. Recently I spent two hours interviewing chief satanist Anton LaVey in his black windowless of secret doors, coffins and skeletons in San Francisco. I have also visited the secret chambers of the Detroit Satan grotto in an apartment almve a grocery store in nn exclusive northern Detroit suburb. Assuming the Satanists are for real and they do have churches, worship, teachings, a Bible of their own, members what do they believe? Who Are They? Boyd of Yale and Harvey Cox of Harvard are in the final analysis Satanic.

"Hell, if what they do would have been called Satanism 40 years ago, why all of a stidden is it called Christian?" He said Christian liberals have "arms that are so palsied from so much self-abasement holding crosses up as they try to be liberal while still hiding behind Christianity as they rewrite Scripture." Satanists at Worship The rites are simple, usually carried out with a variety of symbolic items. There is the bell which is rung nine times to "clear" the air; the goblet, or chalice of ecstasy (silver, but never gold which would recall the Heavenly realm), filled with "elixir," any stimulating fluid (but not drugs nor sufficient alcohol to intoxicate, for Satanists believe in keeping clear active minds, as well as stirring up emotions); the sword of strength, symbolic of aggressive forces, used in symbolically addressing the figurative princes of hell; a small decorative gong. Parchment is available also for the participants to write their petitions, the basic act of most Satanic rituals. The faithful write out their intense "honest" desires, and the wishes or intentions become the center direction of the ritual and are burned ceremoniously in the light of the candles. Three types of intents are recognized: (1) Sex ritual.

"The purpose in performing such a rituai is to create desire, on the part of the person whom you desire," according to LaVey's newly published 272-page paperback "Satanic Bible." (2) Compassionate ritual. "Health, domestic happiness, business activities, material success, and scholastic prowess 4 .1 'i From lacket of "The Satanic Bible" Anton LaVcy: 'Black pope' of Church of Satan is i are. but a few of the situations covered in a comimsKion ritiiiil. It illicit be said that this form of ceremony could fall into the realm of genuine charity, bearing in mind that 'charity begins at (3) Destruction ritual. "This is a ceremony used for anger, annoyance, disdain, contempt, or just plain hate." The participants are expected to stir up their feelings in the near darkness of the rites and join in empathy with the petitioner.

Reading of chants in English and Knorhinn, an ancient lost language believed older than Sanskrit, shore up the petitions. Dead of the Detroit-area grotto is a tall good looking gentleman with Knglish accent, who describes himself as a teacher and nays he studied with a religious order and was ordained a deacon. De is strongly anti-Catholic. John Ferro, 34, assistant professor of history, University of California, Satanic master of the San Francisco grotto, the other church, also started out in church studies but left without the bitterness of his Detroit Satan counterpart. He spent his first year of college or "junior seminary" with the Domi-cans at the Christian Brothers St.

Mary's College, Moraga, Calif. Ferro surprisingly still attends church on occasion. He likes the Episcopal church for its sense of history, but says he is more fond of Russian Orthodox worship. "It's beautiful liturgy," he said, "incorporates all the senses. It is a glorious religious experience, truly magical.

"It (Christianity) is my background," he said. "I am not ashamed of it. It brought me beautiful things." Ferro says in the ceremonies he conducts at the mother grotto in San Francisco "there is usually a woman, but not always, and most often the naked woman." But he adds, "the woman does not function as a sexual object, in anyway, she occupies a very sacred and solemn position, a living altar of flesh and earth, and also balances with her femininity the masculinity of the priest." Despite the negation of past Christian backgrounds, implied or vocal, in naming Satan, there is the haunting suspicion that the Church of Satan movement Is hardly more than' one more all encompassing, ecclectic faith, or if you will, in a more narrow sense, a new form of denominationism. For, If you sit back and think about the logic of denomlmi-tinnalism, there is a logic for Satanism. If you go from religious group, visiting on Sundays, you find most groups.

In the last analysis, are mutually exclusive of the others at least they entertain the idea they have the essential if not all the truth. If this Is so, then somebody is right, somebody Is wrong. This leads to the theorem that one is worshiping God, the other the devil, or rather, there are many images on Olympus one is worshipping the true God, the rest, the various other Is there any value to the Christian or Jew to dialog with them and listen to what they have to say? The movement came Into leing in 1906 when LaVey, a former circus organist and lion tamer, collected those interested in black magic and the occult into a fellowship. He pegs his national memltership at more than although he reveals no membership list. Members get a scarlet paper newsletter keeping them informed of LaVey's activities ami messages.

He is also a columnist in a national tabloid. The Satanists apparently come from middle class America, and according to LaVey, are conservative members of the silent majority. If the conservative American stands for laissez-faire capitalism, of self-achievement and piling high materialistic things, then the Satanists, flesh and material orientated, are real sky-blue patriots. Therefore he believes that President Nixon, Spiro Agnew, California Governor Ronald Reagan, for instance, are good Satanists at heart. LaVey also believes many liberals are crypto-Ratanisls.

To him the liberal and anti-church establishment tone of Malcolm PRESBYTERIAN CHRISTIAN CHRISTIAN FORT STREET You art cordially Invited to attend Sunday Service! at lilted below. Sunday Schools art conducted by all churches. Wednesday Testimonial Meetings at P.M. Detroit Branches of The Mother Church, The First fori at Third, tnd of Lodq X-Woy Frt Parking on Sunday! WORSHIP 11 A.M. "BUT WHERE ARE THE HEROES?" The Rev.

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McNicholi Road Denlse Armstrong: Give youth church vote rights. to meet pastors, youth leaders, strangers, and friends." And, as one of the drafters put it personally: "Three-piece suits, brushed wingtips and suburban lawns are not prerequisites for shareholding "Satan reigns!" chant seems to average REDFORD PRESBYTERIAN Redford Ave. at Grand River "THE LAWS OF GOD" Dr. Adem Westmeas, Preechinij Worship Church School 9:30 A 11:15 a.m. LET PRAYER BRING YOU PEACE When family or buslneit problemi seem beyond solution when the worries and turmoil of daily life bring pressures beyond the bearable Quiet meditation and prayer offer solace and respite an opportunity to reappraise day-to-day circumstance in light of scripture to seek guidance of a greater power.

Whatever your your this week, and let prayer bring you peace. OF RELIGIOUS Baptist RUSSELL ST. BAPTIST CHURCH, 87(10 Freewav. Sst. 7 p.m.

-50 Choir Muslcale, Brother Ed Smith directing. Sun. 10:30 a.m.-Usher Board 2 38th Anniversary-Rev. J. H.

Porter Preach-inq, "God Behind the Clouds." 4 to 6 D.m. Annual Tea with an Eveninq with the Stars. PEACE BAPTIST CHURCH Goddard Near East Davison-368-2370 Rev. Stacy Williams, Pastor 11:00 a.m. "Sympathy and Empathy," Pastor Williams Preaching.

4:00 p.m.-32nd Anniversary of The Youth Choir. Baptist (American) NORTHWESTERN-19421 W. 10 Mile Southtield. Rev. H.

Dale Crockett, Min, Morn. Worship 10 a.m.-S.S. 11:15 a.m. Baptist (Southern) MERRIMAN ROAD BAPTIST CHURCH- 2055 Merriman Road (Near Ford), Gar-don City. Rev.

Ray Babb, Pastor. S.S.-o i( Wnrihlo 11 and 7:30 p.m. Tralnina Unions 4:30 p.m. Prayer. Episcopal CATHEDRAL CHURCH OP ST.

PAUL 4800 Woodward Ave. at Hancock Sundays 8 a.m., 9 a.m., II a.m., 5 p.m. Preacher at 11 a.m.-WWJ The Very Rev, Leslie G. Warren, Dean Holy Communion Mon. throuqh Frl.

12 noon-Salurday 9:15 a.m. HI WMaaiiMi i. Second Church Third Church Fourth Church Fifth Church Sixth Church Seventh Church Eighth Church Ninth Church Tenth Church Subject Sunday "CHRISTIAN In RADIO PROGRAMS "THE BIBLE SPEAKS TO YOU" WQTE (560 KC) 9:45 a.m. Sunday and WCHD-FM (105.9 MC) 4:45 p.m. Sunday METHODIST farms, all named God, on Olympus.

Or try this: Link good with God, evil with the devil. Then match up the definitions one gives of God with the appropriate name. LaVey touches on this in his Satanic Bible: "Anyone who thinks of Satan as evil should consider all the men, women, children, and animals who have died because it was 'God's He also asks that a person be labeled according to the way he lives. He writes at the beginning of his Bible: "On Saturday night I would see men lusting after half-naked girls dancing at the carnival, and on Sunday morning when I was playing the organ for tent-show evangelists at the other end of the carnival lot, I would see these same men sitting in the pews with their wives and children, asking God to forgive them and purge them of carnal desires." Richard L. Means, who teaches sociology at Kalamazoo Mich.

College, In the Christian Century, ecumenical Protestant journal, explains the popularity of science fiction and the oc cult, such as "Rosemary's Baby," book and movie, dealing In witchcraft and magic, as possible healthy signs of a scientific culture that Is trying to synthesize itself. The occult, mystical and the like form new foci for synthesis, he argues. Satan in the Uible Curiously, Satan is a very prominent concept in the Christian faith, although, biblically the concept varies. Satan ranges from an angel on God's side, linked with God in the Old Testament, to the personification of evil, in the New Testament. In the book of Numbers (22: 22, 32), the first place Satan is linked with a non-human or supernatural entity, "Yahweh (God) himself tells Balaam that because he has proceeded against his will, he has come as a Satan against him" says Henry Kelly, in "The Devil, Demonology and Witchcraft" (Doubleday, 1969).

While Satan becomes an opposing force in the New Testament, and while the early Christian gnostic hen-lies, created an emanation of creatures from God on down to His fallen angels and Satan, in Hell, the Satanists view Satan as an organizing and whollstic concept. Unlike the United Presbyterians who asserted in a study report received at the General Assembly in Chicago last month that there is some objective evil force out there, which they described as "a malignant force at work" or "at least a shadow of an evil reality beyond human life," the Satanists do not believe in a literal Satan' or Devil. Thus Presbyterians who affirm the existence of Satan have a stronger, more vital concept of Satan than the Satanists do themselves. "Self-fealissiation" very much akin to the self-realization theories of naturalist Henry Thoreau and Ralph Waldo Emerson of the last century, is the catch word with the Satanists. ilvi iial Woodward at Grand Circus Park Church Phoni 965-5422 Worship II a.m.

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"MIND MAKES MEN GIANTS" -nil in mi III! 111 II Mill II 1 1 1 Mill I 111 II lllllll llllllllllllllll IIII IIIII1MI1 llllllll 1 MIIIIIIM1I It II Mll CENTRAL NORTHWESTS Presbyterian Church 1(776 Southtield. nr. McNkholi '11 a.m. "7 hft Pnwer Strnotile'' 7 p.m. Choir Program "Voices of Praise" "0 Robert S.

Williamson, Pastor FIRST PRESBYTERIAN WOODWARD at EDMUND PLACE Church School 9:45 a.m. MORNING WORSHIP 11 a.m. "THE WORLD'S GREATEST MIRACLE" Dr. Paul McBrida Gillis, Preachir-g Minister: Allan MacLachlan Frew Rudolph S. Garypie Gordon Young, Organist Director SUNDAYS WQTE 1:00 P.M.

560 KC WBFG-FM 2:00 P.M. 987 MC WEXL 3:30 P.M. 1340 KC CHYR 4:30 710 KC BILLY GRAHAM BjawiawJMWsaa Pi jHrU I WORLD-WIDE BROADCAST X'vJ i inaa Lkia i 1 Satanic Values Are Hangups Lavey uses "self-realization" and "lack of self-deceit" In describing what he considers the values of Satanism. "We believe, in hang-ups," and Satanism does not seek to suppress guilt feelings, but to celebrate them, even though it means, for instance, sticking pins in a doll privately or denouncing an enemy in a Satanic mass, he said. "The rituals are not to free the person but to challenge and direct (his energies) so it will do the most good.

We believe In being very uptight if not, you are a vegetable. W'e try to get more mileage out of it (uptight feelings)," he said. Said Ferro: "God and Satan are names for different aspects of nature." "You can't say one Is more real than the other unless you say they are 'anthropocentric' These are just names. "Many of our members are anthropomorphic and simple, and look at it this way, and thus compare to their counterparts In Christianity." SERVICES FOR Episcopal CHRIST CHURCH, DETROIT 960 E. Jefferson near Lafayette Park Services 8, 9 and 11 a.m.

Special Classes for Children Excellent Nursery Care The Downtown Parish on the East Side Lutheran MESSIAH-Kercheval at Lakewood The Rev. A. H. A. Loeber Worship 10:15 a.m., S.S.-9 a.m.

ST. MARK'S-1045 E. GRAND BLVD. Ereri Stein, nactnr. U91.RB19 7:00 a.m.

8. 10:45 a.m. 9:00 JUT IN attMNO LU3 I 3VAIL3 Jesus Is the Friend of Sinners CHRIST IROQUOIS AVE. troauols at Vernor. The Rev.

Ervln H. Hartman. S.S. and Worship 9:30 a.m. umv TRINITY Reformed Lutheran Church (LCNA) 4605 Cass at Forest.

Early Worship 9 a.m. S.S. 10 a.m. 11 a.m. -Worship Communion.

7 p.m.-Eve-nlnq Service. Rev, J. Vossey, Bishop Pastor. EPIPHANY-Wnodward at 7 Mile Road. Pastors: R.

H. Bernlhal 8. E. T. Bernlhsl Worship 10:30 a.m.

S.S. and Bible Classes 9:30 a.m. What's Happened to Hell? Lavey doesn't believe in an explicit after life, but believes if there should happen to be one afterall, a man truly affirming his humanity, and becoming most "complete" through Satanic ritual, will' be best prepared for it. In a day In which religious Interfalth dialog has come a long way, nnd there is even extended dialog between Christians anil Marxists, there may come the day for a dialog between the Christian and the Satanists, if the Satanists ever become Important enough. One lead question could be: "What's in a name? 1515 Woodward i Branch's.

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