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L-4 Sunday,August29,2004Post-Gazette Proprietary software in some cars makes you get service from dealer D ear Tom and Ray: I don’t know if you’ve ever commented on the “proprietary software” being installed by automakers these days. I’m presently shopping for a newer, used Volvo, and I fell in love with the S80. However, when I bounced this off my trusted independent Volvo mechanic, he told me he cannot work on these models because they are filled with proprietary software designed to drive owners to Volvo dealerships for service and repairs. He says even the dealers have to transmit data back to the East Coast headquarters to get answers. Are other carmakers doing this now? Doesn’t this run contrary to the great democracy in which we live today? — Margaret RAY: Yes, it does seem a bit contrary to the American Way, doesn’t it? But I think the people are starting to rise up. In fact, I saw a protest sign outside a garage the other day that read “No Tire Rotation Without Representation!” TOM: This is an unfortunate trend. A number of higher-end, mostly European manufacturers are using technology that requires proprietary tools to diagnose. RAY: That doesn’t mean they won’t give the tools to Sven, the local independent Volvo mechanic. But it means Sven would have to lay out eight to 10 grand for the special computer and software to work on S80s. And he’d have to pay for upgrades every year. TOM: It’s unlikely that most independent mechanics, who usually work on a variety of cars, are going to spend that kind of money so they can work on the half-dozen S80s that come in during the year. RAY: So, the reality is that this does create more business for dealerships, and, over time, serves to drive independents out of business. That means less competition for your service dollars, which means fewer choices and higher prices for your repairs. TOM: In fact, we did a study a couple of years ago and found that, on average, dealerships charge about 15 percent more for repairs than independent shops charge. And that’s with competition from the independents. Without it, who knows? RAY: We think this is anti- competitive. But it’s apparently not illegal. So, the only way you can protest is to buy something else. If you want some specific suggestions, I know that Lexus and Infiniti are two high-end cars that don’t keep their diagnostics proprietary — at least, not yet. We work on both of those makes with our existing tools without any problem. TOM: But it’s best — as you did — to ask your own mechanic if he’ll work on a specific used car before you buy it. It’s better than finding out after you buy it that your choices for repair and service are severely limited.  Dear Tom and Ray: I have a 1993 Toyota Corolla. I bought it used three years ago. I have had to replace the starter twice. As you know, a starter is a brutishly heavy collection of magnets mounted on a rotating axis inside a cylinder of thick, braided wire. My question: Since my starter really has to work only for about two seconds to actually start the car, and since I start my car on average only twice a day, my own calculations tell me that the starter only does about 24 minutes of work per year. Considering this extremely lax work schedule, why would a starter ever fail in the first place? I realize that the brushes, which transfer the electric current, are probably the key, but, come on! I mean, really. — Jack RAY: That’s an excellent question.I don’t know why starter components ultimately fail. But I suspect it has to do with the tremendous amount of current that flows through the starter every time you use it. TOM: It’d be as if you only crossed the street twice a year. No big deal, right? But what if each time you did, you got run over by a garbage truck? It would take its toll. And so does high current. RAY: In any case, two starters inside of three years is a lot. But we’ve seen this problem before with nonfactory rebuilt starters in Toyotas. TOM: While Toyotas are very well-made cars, we find that we replace aftermarket, rebuilt starters in Toyotas at three to four times the rate at which we replace the same types of starters in other cars. RAY: This is not the case with the original equipment starters that come with the car from the Toyota factory, or the rebuilt starters provided by Toyota dealers. The problems we have are with aftermarket rebuilt starters, which most people buy to replace their originals. TOM: Since this car was already getting elderly when you bought it, my guess is that it had a nonfactory rebuilt starter in it. And when you had to fix it, you threw in another one just like it. RAY: So, if you haven’t had to put in yet another starter before we could answer your letter, I’d suggest that you buy a brand-new or rebuilt starter from Toyota next time. Your mechanic can order one from a local Toyota dealer. I’m guessing that one will last a whole lot longer. “Car Talk with Click & Clack” airs at 10 a.m. Saturdays on WDUQ-FM, 90.5. You can write to Click & Clack in care of King Features, 888 Seventh Ave., New York, NY 10019, or e-mail them by visiting the Car Talk Web site at www.cartalk.com. CLICK & CLACK TOM & RAY MAGLIOZZI Sports/UtilityVehicles CHEVY’00 BlazerLS, 4WD,allpwr,only41K mi,$12,000.(412)821-3462 CHEVY’00TAHOE 4x4LT,lowmiles,loaded, 1-owner,don’tmissthis one ................... HURRY! CHEVY’01 BlazerLT 4x4,fullpwr,only27K miles,4door. SUBURBANBUICKSUBARU NorthHills412-364-1900 Chevy’01Blazers 3to choosefrom,fullpwr. 4x4,Startingat$11,995 JohnSeretti412-264-3325 CHEVY’01TAHOELS, 4WD,lightpewtermetal- lic,loaded,47Kmi, $24,000.Call412-276-0108. 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JEEP’03LIBERTY Ltd, 4x4,fullpwr,superclean, .......................... $17,495 SUBURBANBUICKSUBARU NorthHills412-364-1900 Jeep’03Liberty, 2to choose,starting@ $16,588 JEEP’03 LibertySport Ed,4WD,auto,loaded! $17,800.(412)854-0458 JEEP’03WRANGLER Softtop,5spd,CD,very clean,$16,788 NORTHSTAR 724-452-9450/724-935-4900 JEEP’04GrandChero- kee Spec.Ed.lthr,full pwr. .................... $25,988 NORTHSTAR 724-452-9450/724-935-4900 JEEP’04 GrandChero- keeLarado6cyl23K,exc cnd,$21,000.724-625-6387 JEEP’04 GrndCherokee 15Kmi.likenewSave! JohnSeretti412-264-3325 JEEP’04LIBERTY LTD., ................... $19,964 TheNewWestLibertyDodge 412-343-1300 Sports/UtilityVehicles Jeep’04WranglerRubi- con, stillsmellsnew,only 1,5001-ownermiles,6- spd,hardtop,softtopstill inbox. WrightPontiac, 1-866-540-9711. JEEP’94 Gr.Cherokee Laredo,4WD,a/c,ps/pw/ pdl,$4,000 412-606-7398 Jeep’95Wrangler Sport 5spd,clean,alloys, $6,950 Metro412-766-2222. JEEP’96 CherokeeSport 4dr,6cylauto,108,000 mi,$3995.724-926-3443 JEEP’96 GrandChero- keeLaredo,1owner, gar.kept.,veryclean. Runsgreat.138,000mi. $4500.412-749-3890 JEEP’97CherokeeSport 4x4,4dr,6cylauto,CD, a/c,whls,extraclean, neednothing,140Kmi. Only$4900.412-974-6789. JEEP’97 GrandChero- keeLtd.exc.cond,new tires,loaded!105Kmi, asking$7600.412-881-3479 JEEP’98 Cherokee4x4, 2tochoicefromstarting at$7500Dlr412561-9173 JEEPCHEROKEE 1998, 85k,4WD,PW,PL,CC, $7,500.724-776-4439 JEEP’99CHEROKEE Sport,4WD, ........... $7,981 TheNewWestLibertyDodge 412-343-1300 JEEP’99GrandChero- keeLtd.Ed, fullyloaded superbcond,mustsee. Call4-8pm,412-341-1183. JEEP’99 GrandChero- keeV6,56Kmi,p-mnrf, lthr,htdseats,10CD; exccond,veryclean $13,900. .....(412)373-2001 JEEPCERTIFIED ’00GrandCherokee Limited ............... $16,999 ’02GrandCherokee Laredo(2)From$16,999 ’02LibertyLimited .............................$16,999 ’03LibertySport$17,999 BaumBlvd.Dodge 412-665-9800 Sports/UtilityVehicles JEEPWRANGLER 4Cyl 5spdWhiteFlares,Lift kit,44KNvroffroad. $6600412-571-1773 Jeep’01GrndCherokee$14,900 Laredobluew/gray6cyl fullpwr&muchmore. 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