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The Lyttelton Times from Lyttelton, Canterbury, New Zealand • 6

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Lyttelton, Canterbury, New Zealand
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6
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November ll 6 THE LY'rtELTOftf TIMES Extension Bill and assent be thought its rejection -would be a great evil He should prefer the order being left in its present shape The: question being put that one-half of tha numberbe present it was uegatived Mr Hall then statedthai he would 'to-morrow propose a site for I he inteuded Provinbiai Coiuiuil Chamber oil Thursday tlie Pfovin-cial Council Extension Bill and on Friday a CoinmiUee of Supply i Statement of Letters and Nempepen which hwg pasted between Lyttelton and Ckritichwrck fromJan1 foJforcASl 1854 on Sent Vo Christchurch January to 3l Feb 1 to hfiS March 1 to 31 News 1046 364 '336 1746 'MS Receivedfroh Christchurch January 1 ltd 31 431 eoaciaev mismm Feb March 1 to28 1 to 31 319 4NSH ic6ai -72j Howard (Signed) A I 00 -Of: CO ts '6 to Cl ss Cl I 00 -p- to to 'n fo CO promised the bouse diet the should go up for the Governors therefore lie disapproved of the course be now proposed to take1 He thought it was the duty of the house to consider this new bill carefully td discuss it fully and leave it for the finaj decision of an enlarged Council He believed that: the bill -iiow before the bouse might be made a very goodone bul he was still disposed to consider that the most prudent course would be to send to tlie Gnvernor with -tbeEx tension Bill the well-digested draft of another in order that his Excellency's opinion might be asked thereon biit before this step wtis taken he should prefer itsbeiugbeforethe people for a consider Table: time As to its principle-' he would observe there is too much power le to the governor and too little to local authority and this was particularly evidenced in clauses Sand -7-rr in the appointmeut br the Governor of Be-turning Officer and of Revising Officers it was a return to the principle of centralisation against which such universal objefction was eh-tertained These were powers'-of -detail and they ough not -to be delega ted to the Governor but to the Superintendent ln-facthb Governor ought to be burdened- with sneh detail- He would desire to see every 'uieasure brought before the bouse biitespeciallyari electoral law perfect in-itself and hecouldnot say that the bill before them 'was so Tn its present gbape there ought to be introduced in -it such portions of the Governor's proclamation and such portions also of the English lawas had reference-to the-snbject All past proclamations should be repealed such portions As were required: re-enacted and the electors would have- before them one elaboratedtind complete -law intelligible to the meanest understanding They wiil -have according -to the present plan of repealing repugnant proi-inoiisi to enconnter all kinds of legal donita And difficulties on the exteht of the meaning of rto jugndnt I) esides harin gtoh untTou thei rja through numerous Gazetterand' Statute Books -MtTaxcksi thought seiiding the two bills to the Governor would probably endanger-' Olie of them he believed' it would be the per fect one of the two before the house: If the first bill was disallowied-aiid Uie secondallo wed there would be no enlargement of the Oounci! hud therefore he thought that ainalgaination wpuldbe beneficial -The hon-gentleman (the member for Lyttelton) -has objected to" themed- sure before the house on the ground of the liasty maimer in which it has been introduced this lie confessed surprised him rorheremem-hered that when the-Proviiicial Conn cil Ex tension Bill was introduced in tnthe house that was the very objection lie (Mr Ti) took to the very bill the hon gentleman so stoutly adyo-cated It was a novel argument that the honiie needed enlargement before it' could take a roea-sure into its consideration which -had especial reference to its own-members 1 Mr- Hall said he believed-that the' Goverii-nor Would dissolve the Council whenever these Bills went up to him 'and he desired to shew that the mode in which amalgamation was proposed to be made would lie perfectly provided for in Committee The Constitution Act wus clear in reference to the power of the Uorernor to appoint electoral districts and polling places It was a great mistake to s'np- 'Fmw-1 ere was ny substitution of one hill Tor the other If the house should be of opinion that the-bill -was desirable either Jo its present form or in its amalgamated state he would pledge himself not to impede the sending up of the other bill to the Governor for his assent Ample time had been to alter the uuinber to two-thirds of the house instead of 6 members Tlie house had agreed to the ihotibn tosuspeud the Standing Oideft and the result was the resig-natiuii of the late Government: It is tiine that protection shoiild be given to a minority for the prevehlion of the passiiig through this house or aiiy hurried tneustires in atitfn and that he conceived cdtild only be dbiib by requiring the sanction of at least two-thirds of their number to such a vote It inlay be well to argtiej that lion gentlemen should attend iti their places but mutual confidence's necessary to the carrying oht of all measures in the house The whole object of tlie several stages of first1 second' atid third readings lind cbm-mittalS of a 'bill7 liras that hod members should have opportunities given diem of recording their vutesat onetime if preventeddoing sb at another Andit was of all things essential that in so small a body such' a power shbpldriut he tested in thpinemberk except byasariction tit a fiill hi)use ahd when there would bfe given a fall yerdictontlie question He had liehblieved twibe ihbved for the suspension of the Standing Orders biit it was' in a full libuse and upon questions of great importance when organizing the new Provincial Government add when time was bif all things yaluable It muStnot be lost sight of that nporithe Second occasion did not move the suspension of Standing Orders ta pass a bill tbrough all its stages while upon the first a vote of supply was required to carry on the Government according to law Mr Ha-miUon then rnoved that Standing Order No 60sbbnld read thus Provided that notice of motion to suspend the ordeiyhad heed given at a previous sitting of two-thirds ef its members" Mr: CoOKSoir rose to second tlie motion Mri HALL said he was about to second the motion himself but had no idea that the occd-sion wsis to be used as a means of raking up pld matters and it grieved hiifn to find the hon gentleman the Collectorof Oustomsagainand again referring to the subject which had occuirred when he left office Ha should have' ho hesitation in supporting the motion MrTANcirEb hoped these wbuld be the funeral honors to the circumstances which had led to the retirement of the late Government- He thoughi the hon gentlemen the toiriiste rial bench hot laid themselves to the ehargeshis hon friend bad brought tbem and he believed there would be no fear bf fan Unfair attempt pn the part' of -the Go-yeriitrient to suspend the Standing Orders for the purpose of cireumyeritingtheir-opponents He aid not kgree in the necessity for tlie measure nor did he objectioni to it audhe sbpuld therefore ybtefor it Mr DAKFiSB It seemed to hiih thatocca-sions might arise when the suRpehsion bf the bidets were' essential and when it would be almost impoissible to bring together twothirds of the house MrTAirGRKD said it had occurred to him that sbihe difficuUy'might arise from the large-hess of the number the Governinent might desire to suspend the orders for the immediate passing 'of measures of imjiortahc and then the absence of the power would be an evil Mr Bbalby-thought the original number proposed would meet the case adding tlie necessity of notice'havingbeen given' the day before The hon gentleman -the Collector of Customs had used the power with advantage and -he thought they sliould not be deprived of the power themselves Mr Hamxltoh said he did not desire today down any absolute' number he was desirous to take the sense of the house on that point Nei I Ok eb: A -r'q 8 T3 -b-2' -o -a 1 rs es 0 3 a 6 i ''C3 XI 8-5 it -3 o-T3 JS eg I 'o -a i i sfg -g ffl- a io qo aa a I ill SOSO'S -O vs of'iS "ia frB'K a- 4 g6tQ 'tt iW 3 0 it 1 o-s a 8 sle cJZ jv iq 'b's 5-S T5 TS MS Q) S- i-s 0 0-00 '6 to'fcj 'O 90 too 5 to 83 IQ is 3 '2 J3 "3 'fp T3 Pi rfS T9 T9 given fur the consideration -of the measure 'and uiere wus no just reason for the charge of undue Ither did he wish to impute motives to any hon: 'lsle- he gentleman (Mr Hamilton) gentleman in that house his object was solely loo-ighi there was cunsiderahle objection' to pla- the protection of a minority hiinn the uuder the Mr Bxalkt suggested that the number be that nowe I 16 lhoujhl reduced to 6 instead of two-thirds of the house dent bnT the? 'fill 1 SapemUeu- Mr Tancrbd said that the more he consi- fe'1 at1u woold not be right to dered the subject the more difficulties he saw lendent 1PTC-r hands of the Superin- and be should he disposed to get rid altogether tendent wlu being an elected officer might be sard to he influenced by panv motives and that wasn strong objection the departing from onglit to he a rule lie Bin was then read a second til of clause 60 When a matter of mere form is to be got over it is proposed to require the attendance of two-thirds of the Council but the fact is on the oocasion tlie hon gentleman had alluded to there actually were B'u VjQ is- zi I 86 IB 0 0 10 fc 1-S iSn a 8 -'O 1 a two-thirds of JaT'i" Thursday I the house present He tiionglit the real value of mid the third reading of the Provincial Council the power of suspension was in cases of fmauce ExteuMoii Bill to be token on the same day and therefore the expunging of thTorfer 3d lXAMIfTOK 1 1 Mr mured that Standing Order be a belter course so is sg-cg 33 80 5 1 15 5 I t- 9 rs -a K-- No 60 he emended according to the terms of Lis previous motion but he desired to obtaiu leave Mr DAKFiaa objected to the proposition Tlie power of suspension was a privilege and.

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