Georgia Journal and Messenger from Macon, Georgia • 2

MACON' Thursday Jan 31 133 whom lie may be' a direct application ot fotce and cannot be oth of democracy the nd adcquate' irolwlhp jr forces of die State MiUPIEn ln thie on the 24lh in MrobnMueiian to Miss Julis rance JW The ctrpiipl of the Bank of Wed lorida we i undoubted re accustomfd to speculation which the federal doctrines of the Pr mdent are re ferliiia of thf State to die subject of Redire I I I I I nnn rritlj nl I nril It The rich inheritance beqneathejl by our lath ers has devolved upon us the sacred obligationd preserving it by the same virtues which con 1 ducted them through the eventful scenes of the I revolution and ultimately crowned their st rng" ie I with the noblest model of civil They bequeathed to us a Government of law and 1 ederal Union founded upon the rent principle of popular representation Alter a successful experiment of forty years at a mo ment when that Government ami the Union are the objects of the hopes of the friends of civil liberty throughout the world and tn the midst ol public and individual prosperity unexampled in history we are called ttpoii to decide whether these laws possess any force andthat Union the means of self preservation Thu decision of this question by an enlightened and patriotic people cannot be doubtful or myself fellow citizens devoutly relying upon that kind Providence which has hitherto watched over our destinies ami actuated by a profound reverence for those institutions I have so much cause to love and for the American whose partiality honored me with their highest trust I have determined to spare mt effort to discharge the duty hich in this conjuncture is devolved upon me That a similar spirit will actuate the representatives of the American people is not to be' quest toned 1 fervently pray mat the Great Ruler of nations may so guide your deliberations and our "joint measures as that they may prove salutary exam not only to the present bnt to future times and snlemnfy proclaim that the Constitution and the Laws are supreme and the Union ble ANDREW JACKSON Washington Jan l(5th 1833 virJnta r'i 7 The House of Delegates on the 1 Sth inst a dopted one dissenting vote only the following preamble and resolutions The Getferal Assembly of Virginia actuated by an atdent desire to preserve the peaqe and haiiuony of our common country elying upon the sense of justice of the people of each and ev ery state this Union as a guarantee their representatives in Congress wjll so modify the Jaws usually called the I'a riff Laws" that they will no longtfr be a source'of complaint to the people of any particular believing that the people of Smith Carolina are mistaken in supposing that Congress will afford them no re lief from the laws in question especially uppn the auspicious approach ofthe extinguishment nftlto public debt confident that they litre too stiongly attached to the Union of these States to endanger or dissolve it whilst they have soy hope ofcobiainin the reliefs which they desire by regular anti peaceful persuaded that they Mil listen willingly and respectfully Io the' voice of Virginia affectionately japd earn estly urge that they wouldnwait thenesult of a concerted and 1 vigorous effort ofthe friends of union and peace to effect' a reconciliation of public differences now unhappily re earding a resort to force on the part ofjbe geners al government or rm the part of of Smith Carolina as a measure which nothing but extreme necessity can justify or excuse in either at the same time that violence may occur which nray eventuate in cousCcunces that all deplore unless South i Carolina will iconshntto rescind her late ordi nance or to sthpend its operation 1 Resolved therefore by this General dssern bln in the'name and on the' behalf of the people of Virginia That the competent authorities of Sonin Ujiroinw tie ano tney are nereny earnest ly and respectfully requested to rescind the Or dinance of their late Convention or to suspend its operation until the close of the first session of lhe nettt' Congress q1 i Resolved That the Congress of flip United Slates bo arid they are hereby earnestly ami res pectfully requested so lo modify the Tariff Raw as to effect a gradual but early reduction of the revenue of the General'iGovernment to the tie cgssary and proper expenditures thereof the'people of Virginia ex pect and in the opinion of this General Assih blyt have a right to expect that the Genera! Gov ernment and the Government of South Caroli na and all persons'acting under the authoriiy of either will abstain) frdm nil acts calculated to disturb the tranquility of the country or endan get the existence of the Uiiion TnK Cnisis We liave a rumor and it is of so much importance' that wedo riot feel at liber ly to withhold it from our readerJ it is that the committee of the Senate have agreed to report a bill plaeingtlie whole Military and naval powers 'of the at tbe'dispbsal of the Presi dent for the purpose nf enabling him to coerce South Carolina into Obedience This explains the object of the' proclamation and of the mes stage Let Andrew Jackson once Organize an artny'ofone hundred thousand1 met) under the pretext of preserving the Union" and there is but another step to his 'being declared the Union Our Union protect ed by a of hired soldiers Telegraph Banket West This Jhstitution has been refooved Apqlacb icola Itoy and the bills we have hoiiced have acquired a very gen era) currency' At two of the Bonks of this place diey lire received in' payment and bn' deposije etui by the principle merchants they are taken nt intimate coinmerciarehtious Mibsipt ing between this section of country and the Bay lenders us (Iqiply alive to' thq jirospcritV of that port 3 bin can advance sb directly the pros pcrity 'of arid its vicinity as the COMMERCIAL RANK We ore informed just as our paper ijroing to press that a rumor is in circulciion in several of the upper counties that this institution has been cjimpcUed to stop payment and will probably be unable to redeem its bills There i not the slight est foundation flr such rumor no bank has been more prompt in meeting the demands which have been made upon it and none wc venture to as sert is in a sounder and safer condition Subsequentlv to the due of those mMrnriionsj nmf to the passage of the Ordimim information has been received from sources entitled tn lie re lied that owing to the popular ext itemcnt the State find the effect of the Oidin mt de claring the execution of the ret emm laws unlaw ful a sufficient number of persons in whom con fidencemight be placed could not be induced to accent the office pf Inspectors to oppose with anv probability of success the force which will ito'dmibt be used when an attempt is made to re move vesselsand cargoes from thecn todv oftne officers of the Customs and indeed that it would hlpfnr llm Collector with the aid I I I I I I I I rl I I I I I Urs ot ai)V nlHHIHT in JHpcvmm authorised to employ to preserve the custouy a cainst such an attempt The removal of the Custom House from Charleston to Castle was deemed a measure of necessary precaution and though the authority to give that dit ct'mn is not que tioned it neveitheless apparent that a sun lar precaution cannot bo observed in regard to the pmts of Georgetown and Be mfoit each ol which under the present laws remains a pmt of emrv and exi in that quarter In considering nf nroventintf I which may ensue it would appear to be proper and necessary to enable the officetsof the us totns to preset ve the custody ol vessels and their i iii iiv ihr pAisiin' la ihev are re i WIIIUII I 1 I (piired to take until tbq duties to which they are liable shall be paid or seemed The mode by which it is contemplated io deprive them of that ctislodjishhe process of replevin and that of tn 1 pins in wuhernam in the nature of a distress from the State tribunals orgtnized by the Or dmaiict the proceeding in the nature is not perceived that the Collector can 1 interpose anv resistance whatever and against the process of replevin authorized by the law ol the State he having no common law power can only oppose such inspectors us he is by statute and may find it pr igticable to em ploy and these from the information already adveited to are shewn to be wholly inadequate The respect which that process deserves must' therefore be consideied If the authorities of South Carolina had null obstructed the legitimate action of the Courts of I the United States or if they had permitted the State tribunals to administer the law to their oath under the Constitution and the reg ulations of the laws of the Union the general 'government might have been content to look to Vhem for maintaining the custody and to encoun ter the other inconveniences arising out ol the1 re cent proceedings 'Even in that case however the process of replevin from the Courts ot the Stale would be irregular and unauthorized It has been decided by the Supreme Court of the United States th Courts of the States have exclusive jurisdiction of all seizures made on land or water for a brench of the laws of the United States and an intervention of a State au thority which bv taking the thing seized out of the hands of the United States officer might ob struct the exercise of this jurisdiction is unlaw ful that in such case the Court of the United States having cognizance of the seizure may en 1 i force a re delivery of the thing by attachment summary processes that the question under such a seizure whether a forfeiture has been ac tually incurred belongs exclusively to the Comts of'the United States ami it depends qn lhe final decree whether the seizure is tri be deemed right ful or tortious and that not until the seizttrb be finally judged wrongful ami without probable cause by the Courts of tboU States can the party pro at common law for damages in the State Com ts But by miking it for anv of the constituted aiilhorities whether of the States nr of the State to enforce the lavis for the pay ment of duties and decl tring that all judicial proceedings which shall be hereafter had in af firmance ol contracts made with purposes to se cure the dunes imposed by the said acts are and shall be held ulteily null ami she tins in ef fect abrogated the judicial tribunals within herlimits in this has virtually denied the United States access to courts established by thbir own laws and declared it unlawful for the judges to discharge those duties which they aresworn toperform In lieu of these she has sub stituted those State tribunals already adverted tits judges hereof are not merely forbidden to allow an appeal or peimit a copy of their re cord hut are previously swum to disregard the laws ol the Union and enforce those only of Carolina and thus deprived ofthe function es sential to the judicial character of inquiring into the validity of the law and the light ot the mat ter become merely ministerial instruments in aid of the concerted obstruction of the laws of the Union Neither the process nor authoritv ol these tri bunals thus consumed can be respected con sistently with the supremacy of the laws or the rights security of the citizen If tliey be submitted to the protection due from the Gov 'ermn'ent to its officers ami citizens is withheld and there is at once an end not only to the laws to the Union itself Against such a force as the tuay tind which by the replevin act of South Carolina it tils dntv tn exercise it cannot be expected that A collector can retain his custody ith the aid of the inspectors In such case it is true it would bu competent to institute suits in the States Courts against those engaged tn the 'unlawful proceeding or tho property might bo seized for a violation of the revenue laws and being libel ed in the proper courts an order might be made 'for re delivery which would be committed to the Marshal for execution But in that case lite '4th section of the act in broad and unqualified terms 'makes it the duty of the Sheriff to pre vent such recapture or seizure or to rc deliverthe goods as the case may he' even under any order or decrees or other pretext con to the true intent and meaning of the Or dimince aforesaid' It is thus made the duty of the Sheriff to oppoe the process of the Courts of the United States and for tint purpose if need he to employ the whole power of the coun ty: and thenict expressly reserves to him all power which independently of its piovisions he could have jused In this reservation it obvious ly conteinpMtc a resort to other means than those particularly mentionciL wmffWWWfliilii'B nt uiu bint uuu um iipiimt prosper tn which thia experiment openi to the trade of our place "1 1 We publish torn a fonsr article in llie Augusta Chronicle of the in rela tion to sentiments on the sub jei of and regret our inability to do justice to the Editor by the publication 'of his en tire statement' The whole article is characteris ed by candour nnd generosity that will obtain for it' the confidence ot the public1 In addition Io the testimony furnished by the cor lespondence between the parties prove that Governor Lmnpk'm was a profeued nullifier the Editor of the Chronicle states that" a little more thnn month previous to the session of the Legis lature he (Lutnpkin I declared li is approbation of the prim iplgjiof iiullifi'eationj'but (oulted the safe ty and expediency ofaetiiigbii them Jill the south was mure tjui ed llmt he approved ths principles contained in Mr address say ing it nad never been answered 'and could not It is proper Io mention that the correspondence was voluntarily commenced by Govl Lumpkin us follows MiLLoaEViLtEApril Gib 1832 Afy Dear Sir read the Chronicle ith in creased 1 concur with you generally in matters of and appreciate yihir abili ty to communicate'clearly and distinctly your iiffas on all subjects In the Clnouicle of the 4th I was pleased with the notice taken of Gov letter by A Georgian" I was pleas ed with your editorial rcmaikson the subject of the Meeting" Permit me to say to you that while I am decidedly in favor of Reiluc ipn my mime has had a prominent plage in the Hancock and other meetmgs on the 'subject of without my privity knowledge or consent ie without the least consultation with by any individual who has taken part in those meetings 1 he evidence ol what 1 state will he given io the public in due in an in contro vertable form The official rilation which 1 bear to the people nt the important crisisocctipies all tny time and talehts and would require wore if 1 had to bestow I am not to be diverted from a straight forward course Tire State will its rights ear not Be strong 1 ailj cajim and composed 1 Use no threaltiing language nvr large swelling words 1 'hall riot ape Troup1 But I am ready to do my doty Do let me hear from you and believe me yoiirsns'ever WILSON LUMPKIN Pemberton Esq Augusta I When the above letter was written we were rtnd had been for some time sustaining the doc trines of Nullification in the strongest and most explicit ami determined terms Aware of tins he voluntarily opens a correspondence telling us that he reai jlie Chronicle with increased interest and concurred with its generally in matters of principle" What else could have in creased that interest but nullification since scarcely any thing else had appeared in the pa per lor sometime? And bat other matter of could we have expected he referred to but those of nullification when we had mit rlicussed any others lor a length of time? The very article lie mentions respecting the Meeting" as one strongly censur ing the effort to draw off the energy imprest and finn when flttav tvpfp nil hpuHpiI nn tl 'xiihtpni of resistance tfie oppressions of the Tariff and ought all to be concentrated on that till it was final! settled and disposer! of Our whole ef forts at that timi were devoted to the rights and wrongs of the State ami the proper mode of re the latter and sustaining the former Ami what does he say in connection with all this The State ill sustain of? its tights ear not" ear not what hut that we should stipfeed in the course were then pursuing Be Strong in hit but th advoca cy ol nullification? am calm find composed I use no threatning language nor large swellittg words I shall not ape Troup Bnt I am ready' a LL 11 Ul HO 111 UUIY lid I AJUI1HI dll 1 1 1 1 Hit derstood but that he could not tin threatning language and latge swelling words I roup find done but that he would sus'am the rights of the State as determinately as he had 1 I Next mark our retilyto this and art extract from reading the bill introduced from another letter the first part of rvhich is I the ltiv oflheJLnou 4obe properly' respected I growth a njl importance of a permanent town at i and enforced fjl is taliped these woulff'mqve the mp1 a fl jm i fil is Ilin Inliltaf vs QI lllC' tSllTS i of South qm oliriamithorized by the late of undeptandis held by persons the Legislature should be qctukllj jimlipdled nd sponsibllity butJittlo accustoim ej "'A 'h Vi me mor and liable to be punished by fine of not I less than one thousand nor more than fivethous i and dollar and to imprisonment not exceeding two years nor less than six months and for even i attempting to the orders of the court for i retaking the pi'ifperty the marshal ami all assist ing would be guilty of a misdemeanor and belia bh: to a fine of not less than three thousand do i Jars nor more than ten thousand and to impris omnent not exceeding two yearsNmr less than one: and ill case the goods should be re taken 1 il I 1 i 1 II 1 1 I I I 1 1 I I I If I ruiHier sucn piocew nnhiuums of the Sheriff to re take them i It is not to be supposed that in the face ot i these penalties aided by the powerful force of'the county which would doubtless be brought to sus tain the Slate officers either that the collector could retain the custody in the first instance or that the marshal could summon soflicieut aid to retake the property pursuant to the order or other process othe court I It is moreover obvious that in this conflict be I tween the powers of the officers of the Stales I and of the State (unless the latter be passively submitted to) the destruction to which the pro perty of the officers of the customs would be ex posed the commission of actual violence and the loss of lives would be scarcely avoidable Under these circumstances and the provisions of the acts of South Carolina the execution of the laws is rendered impracticable even through the ordinary judicial tribunals of the States There would ceitainly be fewer difficulties and less opportunity of actual collision between the officers of the States and of the Stale and the collection of the revenue would be more effectu ally secured if indeed it can he done in any oth er by placing the custom house beyond the immediate power of the county or this purpose it might be proper to pro vide that whenever by any unlawful combina tion or obstruction in any State or to any it should become impracticable faithfully to col lect the duties the President ol the United States should be authorized to alter and abolish fitch of the and ports of entry ws should be necessary apd to establish the hotise' at some secure place within the same port or harbor of such State and in such cases it should' he the duty of the collector to reside at such place and to detaiy all vessels and cargoes until the duties imposed by law sbe properly secured ur paid in deducting interest Jhat in such cases it should he unlawlul to take the vessel nnd cargo from the custody of the proper officer of the customs unless tiy process from the ordina ry judicial tribunals of thffU States Mid that in case of an attempt otherwise to take the prop erty by a force too great 4o'b overcome by the officers of tie customs it should lie lawful to pro tect the possession of the officers by the employ ment of the land and ival force and militia un der provisions siniilarto those authorized by the 11th section of the act of the 9th of Jan 1789? This provisipn however 'will not shield the of ficers nnd citizens off the UnitedStates acting under the laws from suits and prpsecutions in the tribunals of the State which might thereafter he brought against (hem nor wquidit protect their property from the proceeding by distress: ami it may well be apprehended that it would he inefficient to insure a proper respect to the pro cess of the constitutional tribunals in prosecutions for offences against the Uniter) States and to protect the authorities of the United whether judicial or ministerin' in the peifoim nnee of their dtitv It would moreover be in adequate tq extend the protection due from the government lothat portion of the people of Carolina against outrage and oppression of any kind who may manifest their attachment and yield obedience to the laws of the Union It mav therefore be desirable to revive with some modification better adapted to the occasion the Gth section of the Act of the 3d of March 1815 which expired on the 4th of March 1817 by the limitation of that of 87th of April 18IG nnd to provide that in any case where suit shall be brought against any individual in Courts I of the State for any' act done tinder the laws of the United States he should be authorized to re i jnove'the same cause by petition into' the circuit point of th? ynitod States without any copy ot the record and that Court'shotild proeped io hear and determine the same' as il it had been originally ipM'tule'l therein and that in all cases of injuries to the persons' or property of in dividuals acting under the laws of the Stales for disobedience to the ordinance and laws South Carolina in performance thereof redress may be sought in the (Joints of the United Stales It may be expedient also by mo(i(yng the resolution of the 3d March 179 to aiithorize the marshals to inAke the necessary provisiqb for the safe keeping nf prisoners cninmijted under the authority of the United Provisions less thqn those consisting they do for th'e'niost par( rather of a rqvival of the policy of former acts 'called for by the existing emergency than of the introduction of any aiit tisnal or rigojous 'enactiqeiits would not cause Aller going over the gromu's metqma by in Proclamation he It bein'" thus shown be the duty ol the ccutive maexecute the laws by all romtiltilional means it remains locunsidet the extent ol dime already at his dispo'al and what it may be pio iier further to provide 1 instructions of the feccutary oftae 1 tensu ry io the Collators in South Caroluia die pro visions and regulations made by the act ot 199md also the fines penalties and lor eitm es for lheir enforcement are pariuularly detail and explained It may be well appiehcnded how ever that these provisions mav piove inati quote ro'meet such anopen powerful orgamzeduppu sitiou as is to be commenced alter the 1st ol ebiuary next by the chairman of the Judiciary Committee in the Senate of the States This bill vve would wish to give entire to convince our readers that our fears are neither morbid nor unfounded be bill was designed especitdly for Soulli Caiolinn but its provisions have a general application Its profess ed object is to secure collect tbe revenue to accomplish this' it authorizes the President to re move the custom house in eaeh collection district to seme secure place on land or on board of a ves sel at which place tbe duties shall be paid befiue landing and authorizes the President or Collector to meet force with fi rce It lurtber declares that property seized under the revenue lows shall not be subject to Replevin The 4lh Section provides that where a party i sued in it State Court fair any act done in the ex ecution of the revenue law 'afid cannot 'obtain a copy of the Record on application' to the Clerk of the State Court the same may be supplied by afljchvit or otherwise' as the case may allow in the courts of the United States The 5th Sec tion authorises the President of the United States to issue hi proclamation and to call out suffi cient inbitairy force to repel any force which riviy" obstruct the'the proceedings of the ederal he being nutified of the necessity of do ing so by some Judge of the edeial Circuit or Court The 7th Section extends the privilege of the writ of Habeas Corpus to the ca ses of personi confmed under a State law for having exetetited the laws of the United States Tbe bill was read jmd' ordered to a second read tog' The bill we regard as a eanction of all the views entertained bv the President giving him dictatorial power subversive of the liberties of the people and destruvtive to the right of the Slates Our citizens were greeted on riday last with rather (lor them) a neve! the arrival of the new Steam Rout Pioneer Cupt McCormick' "with two largo boats in tow The Pioneer is designed to ply regularly on the river between Darien and Macon and we have no doubt from the success of her first trip and her structure tbnt she toil! prove huhiiriibly adapted to our river navigation The construction of the Boat is peculiar her wheels arc in the stern nnd her draft but two feel The trip from Darien with (he boula (idly freight ed was accomplished in 8 days including a stop page of some hours te discharge a large quantity of suit Her machinery works freely i and ttje ex pectations ot her enterprizing owners Messrs Day Dutts have been fully realized On Munday the Boat made several exeuniejie a Progress of ederal Doctrines The character of the present adiniuistrutiqn i daily developing itself The mask' is thrown off mid doctrines are promulgated ns the fundamental principles of our government to be tolerated The Black Coeknke era is revived ed eralism i becoming triumphant and State Rights nnd State Sovereignty words of sound signifying nothing Look tit the Proclamation I an unblush ing shameless avowal of sentiments which in the days of federal misrule would have been advan ced cautiously and met with no respofise beyond the walls of the llartlbid State House Yet in these piping times' ministration ol the man of the people they are proclaimed ex cathedra and received us sound doc trine The President with unofficial arrogance ever assumed by any of his predecessors openly advocates the invasion bf Stale rights brtM lts dow tile barriers which have restrained federal usurpations destroys the individuality of the tillites the most valuable feature in our govern mental system' and construes his powers more iif ti the fashion of Roman Dictator than nu Amer ican President 'Yet these' doctrines are tolerated because Andrew Jikson is tbe promulgator of them these usurpations are aequiysced in be emse the chair of slate is filled by a man whose immense popularity has been acquired by the sup port of thoserights which be is how Is it with usias it was' with the slaves of Rome) Crrsar mil nihil Let the "people east the fifth from ofi'their eyes and merge the man iii his fneasurcs Are the doctrines of the administration tfie same as those that obtained for tjie President the sup port of the democracy of Georgia in 1 jor ralljer nri th nl Hie same which Georgia since' the days of the elder Adittns Ims reprobated pud tie 1 ndunced as anli republb an Are they not the Sen timents of the ultra fekeralists ol the fast Adiini Pickering Otis VVelister id bmrie men whom have ever as the implacable enemies of State rights These are plain' questions easily answered Take up the Proclamation and the lasUmessage ot the Ex ecutive (an extract frqtn yvbich we give in our pa per to day eompare thfc principles therein advoca ted with those advanced in former messages look at the proceedings of Congress' the introduction of the bill from the Judiciary Committee the spirit iii 1 reived throughout the country the congratulatory tone of federal presses the subserviency of those Hint heretofore have been the advocates of State righto and more than all the reckless and vitupe rative spirit' in which South Carolina has been treated for her opposition to usurped and let reflecting man say if the progres of consolidation and federal doctrines in not alarm mg The present ie a most eventful crisis in the history of bub government and we so regard it not so much' from any apprehension of physical collision between the States and General Govern ment as that it will be a revolution in sentiment I a period which in our future history will be mark 1 I 1 1 1 1 1 1 eu as inc era wnen me num neteruuox cwririnew were tidvaaeed from an authoritative and influen tial source which will be ultimately destructive 1 of liberty nnd those principles which our encjtorR done notwirhsianding (ought and died to sustain Wc have hern led to Ueliv'ered to Congress jananryltith 4 itecrof the ancient common This power It Ir oniint linlou fnl raciafjlinu UHHIg II (1 11 1 1 I til "VV to judicial process is in its character forcible anil analasous tothat conferred upon the Mar shals by the act of 1795 Il is in fact the embo dying of the whole iss of thempulaiion under the command of a single individual to accom plish by their fmciule aid what could not be ef ted peaceably and by the ordinary means It mav irofeily be said to be a relict ol those ages in which the law uld be defended rather by physical th in moral foice and in its origin was conferred upon the Sliei ifi of England to enable ii enemies when they canie into the land as well as for the purpose of executing process In carlv and less civilized times it was intended to incfiide the aid and attendance nf all knights and oiliers who were bound to have harness It includes the right of going with arms nnd tnili 'ii equipments and embraces larger classes and greater masses of populaliou than can be com pelled bv the las of most of the Stales to per form miiilia duty If the principles of the com mon law are recognized in South Carolina (and from this act it would seem they are the powers of summoning the posse comiatill Compel under the penall of fine and imprisonment eve ry man over the age of fifteen and able to travel tii tm out al the call of the sheriff and with such weapons as shall bo necessary and it may justify beating and even killing such as may re sist The use of the posse comitalus is therefore erwise regarded than as the employment of the ulinle militia force of the county and in an qitally efficient form tinilor a 'dtffi rent name No proceeding which resorts to this power to the extent c'nitemplated by the act can be properly ili'iKiininaled peaceable The act of South Carolina however does not iel altogether 'upon this frn cible leine'ly or even iittenqiling to resist or though by the aid only of the ordinary officers of the cus nosed to the obsttuctions meditated toms the process of replevin the collector and ji nnurpi npfl her MiliieeJed lo luitlier 111R bpQ of avoiding or ing in the nature of a ditiess of their personal vtt Ai'rit thp mu are moreover imuieEUiny 01 a iihmic I A A I in I 1 I I 1 Hl I I I I I I I 1 1 I I collection of the revenue and the consequences I rxsw fnl owners ol all that trom ar in 'or havenotoupape tro concert or connexion ith iin so far as relatesw the mffi ''UV ofthe Editors So far as are entitled 1( the ejtire that appears tn ibc ir papeJs As a mlf llntt I aUv from a free press ts that 1 pubhc netsdire taken that tltev wille truth tfie whok rJ Mlgbut Ami this much ought to be expected fr(1In I honest Editor 1 tery 1 llaving a great many tilings 16 do to take one aLa time rmd sele I most important one frst Ami when tint posed of I take up the next ''ll I' thmg else to do Imp write" and make on subjects of Political Economy 1 would tainly try my skill at the iiiipmta'i cri is rail Ilian remain an jUe specta(or of the deepl 'r tert'sting scenes whir ow agitirte ibe But it is my lot to tie the siq)er'min1(ni mighty woH" shop Mv anxiliilrms aie f(lv feeble lively tliinw that is not planned nr" pared and exr cmqd hy myself undergoes scrutiny inspection and correction In a word Sir let me plainly IV to you i1in at this stormy period endeavouring to ster tle i Balk of Georgia without one solitary cmneiHM and regidat adviser I have foimd 011 friends purely and exclusively selfish jf they cannot advise so as to bring advantage to tlwhj selves they drop off Well let them go My health is bad bnt my spiiits and confi deuce firm and unshaken If God spares tut life and gives me health 1 shall surmount every other difficulty 1 can write uo more as ever WILSON LUMPKIN A II Pemberton Esq Augusta How is the above let: er to be understood bnt I as giving us his reasons therein detailed lor Wt compil ing ith our urgent wishes that he wtitiid come out openly before the public in Adnicacv of the doctrines we cnteilnined and bi lierfj him to entertain I Dobs he not say that jiui fl)r the pressure nf other mutters aud the tv mt of competent aid Ac he would certainly try his skill at this important crifis rather lliiin remain an idle spectator ofthe deeply interesting seems which imw agitiie the country And Imw were we to expect from fiiis that he would hare tried his skill for or against nnllification 1 tihonl I we have been justified in enteiitmiini lor a moment a 'ingle doubt on that score We here submit th" ruse to the m'uiie and leave them to determine whether Guv Lu rpUn was or was not a nullifier at tbe time this roat pondettce took whether if he wm not so I he did not give ns just grounds to believe heas Whether he was wronged by the expression of that belief or bad any causa hatever to com plain nf of it The above was rend by us to Governor Ln up kin before we lelt (Milledgeville and has been omitted till now in cmiseqiieuoe of its lengih ami the urgent pressure of oilier 1 He did not interrupt us in reading till Ke rame to the reimnks in the 4lh paragiaph relative to hit approbaliot) ofj the principles of millification when he ii( wo must reoollect the qualifications wiih which be bad expressed (hat appt ubalipn We told him we did and he would find as proceeded that they' were very fnlly and expli citly stoted His next rennrk was tn relation io the copy of the letter he Ind shown us denying that he was a' nullifier (in tbe 5th para graph) which he said lie had not wished inenlion ed We replied it was so staled hut that if was one of the tacts of this mailer which we now thought worthy of notice When we came to the cmversatiiui respec ing hi' Message inthe Gilt paragraph liter several previous evidences of rrStlessue's ho rose from his chair and said with much he did nnl care Io hear any more of ilpr lte tljrl not presume we design! offend him but we might b1" ure be would not llfipruve of the relation ol such matters jed that we bud mi design To offend him or io relate any thing bill fads and thought had staled nothing but tarts and sncli as ere relevant to the th it we had been very plain and designed to be so from jhe fii'(luit hail laid it down tisa governing rule at the cum mencement ol the statement to say nothing but what we would be willing if necessary In swear tu io the best of our knowledge and belief tisilll we admitted our liability tu error and said we tv ere willing and anxious to hear any thing he might say in proof that we had coniiniiiHl error: tuid hoping that he would deal as plainly with us as we had' with him would very cheer fitily correct any error he would make uscon scions of lie said he did not charge us with misstating facts or designing to misrepresent them he" believed us honest men but tliat ne hail not mentioned enough and for watit ufJlnt tlw statement bore an incorrecj dial we knew a certain coloiing might' be given to facts withmit misstalilig them and that we ere zealous and enthusiastic in our cause and too apt to see all that occurred in favor of out views Uith ut properly considering what occurred on the opposite side Well wo replied nil that possible Ave were no( coiicions of it but very willing to beAnade so that ve pould eonfidenily iipjieal to any reader to say whether or not tbv statement hfoked like a one sided that nnd the public must see that we had voluntarily and gratiiilionsly stated much throughout that bore strongly in his favor' mid which nothing but a desire to do him fbll justicecould hum dirts that however strong the statement might be' it was hondsi and believed but that we did not wish to be sole Judge in the mat ter and would cheertiily add any iniglit think proper to suite whether we agreed with him or not He said no he did not care to sar any thing now and did not know that lie sbmro hi all bill If I do reply1 mid he it will be very toitfly IjV' t'to want more space titan poiiiiiiig to bhmk ol about thiifl a paw the end ofthe article Well said we wiiretlto mil uow ami as tniidt moto J111 please alt what you' please rod let it' Ito qith onr 't meitt so that the public may see bollf stdes the same time No he said he hud not tune eniet into newspaper controversies even II Irad the inclrontion Then we replied we in II is instance sayp you the trouble cheerfully saving whidevet you may think prop er to dictate whtiher we approve of rni and will promptly correct any error yot niake us emtscious of All boweve he declined and did not point wit a smgfe except what is snhi above about th? Ac tnd did not 'propose a single was during these remarks lie repe and Iigqm in suhsfance on both sides reading Comiipted tlufjpt wasbrpntiht toff ho several times rising as prugtW ngitatetf tnanner a some al h'i" the coloring and we appealing to him to I out In what it coneieted and Tiow he wool it corrected 1 be necessary Than a few modifications of its terms tn llmt the net 1795 to the urasent emergen ce as by that act the provisions ofvthe la" 1792 were accommodated to tin crisis llien es isting and by conferring authority upon 'be President to give it operation during the ofCongrcss and without the ceremony of a lam lion whenever it shall lie officially made known to him by the authority of ttty State or by the Courts of the United States that within the limits of such State the laws of the United States will be oocnlv onoosed and lheir execu tion obstructed bv the actual employment of them to defend their country against any of the military force or by any unlawful means wnatso i A UVUI IllUUlvfli 1U tou UUICI IM" In closing ibis communication I should do in justice to my own feelings not to express my confident reliance upon the disposition of each Department of the Government to perform duty and to co operate in all measures necessary in the present emergence The crisis uiidottbily invokes the fidelity of the patriot and the sagacity of the statesman not more in removing such portion of the public bur then as may he unnecessary thjn in preserving the good order of society and in the mainten ance of well regulated liberty While a forbearing spirit may jnd I trust will be exercised toward the errors of our breth ren in a pai ticular qnaiter duly to the rest of the Union demands that open and organized resist ance to the laws should not he executed with iin another wholly' different subject ami therefore omitted Here they and say if we did not write therein from beginning Jo end as one tin der full ennviciioit that he agreed with us on the doctrines of nullification Office or The Augusta hronicle Augusta June Bth 1832 Respected' Sir I am sorry to see' the Uninn taking so dq cided a stand against Nullification because I doubt not that it will do most serious injury to the Clark party Nullification is sure to rj utiiph as it has already triumphed in the Su preme Conlt case'1 exnept in the nmne and as fast ns the principles become tmdi rstood and it is found out that the move againstihe Supreme Court is a Case of uiillific ition decidedly similar in principle'to that meditated hy Carolina the name is adopted alsn I kliow that the dnetrine is spreading'lhrotlgh the State inost rapidly and far beyond my most sanguine expectations and as whichever party lakes it up first must carry the day anti with them of course as I have heretofore noticed to you all those ofthe other party who are niillifiers should ottepmtion of the Clark party declare against it a much larger I firmly believe will declare for it and thus completely spljt the party or my own part 1 cannot see bow any intelligent matt enn declare for a decided nullification 'of the decision of the Supreme and of course all the laws and treaties on winch it is founded and yetbeoppos ed not onlyto tbe expediency bnt to the princi ples also of the Carotin i nullification which are precisely the same When I came (Utt so openly and thoroughly for the doctrine both in expedi ency as well as principle (which latter I have al ways held as you know I have from my first ac quaintance with you when we first met with Col Cumming at the Mansion House) anli cipatod much opposition among my subscribers hut to my agreeable surprise 1 have not lost even half a dozen of thijiu on (hat account and have gained many and received the most cheer ing assurance nnd flattering prospects of the fu ture (rom every' qunrter of the atuUo an extent which would astonish" yon'' and which you will find very shortly is not exaggera ted 1 remain respected Sir With great regard and esteem i Your obedient servant A 11 PEMBERTON Now would ho not if not then a nullifier have undeceived its ns to the evident impression ttiider which the above Were written? Note if be at tempts to do so in the following reply to them in the slightest degree A small part of it in re ply to that omitted in ours is )yft out MilLEdhevillk Jlnie Oil) 1832 My Dear Your totter ol the Gilt inst is before me And although I a in sick nod scarcely abla to write not having answered your former interesting letter I feel that you must not he longer neglected least my silence should be attributed to some want of respect er kind feel IO i 'I.