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12 BOSTON POST, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 1920 Cagey Experts Refuse to Predict Outcome of Harvard-Princeton Game TIGRRS WHO WILL BE HERE TO CLAW UP HARVARD SATURDAY Sf Sport It appears to be all over but the shouting In the Esperanto-Delawana races. Probably some one of these days the Nova Scotia fishermen will put over a fishing smack that will take the measure of the not while Esperanto is churning the waves. Yale beat Colgate 21 to 7. Harvard beat Virginia 24 to 0. All of which only goes to prove what a close struggle the Harvard-Yale game Is going to be when even the second string players are practically a par.

Centre College evidently ran Into a tougner snag against Georgia Tech than the Southerners did against Harvard. Not only did the Georgians outplay Centre In every department of the game, but even the great McMillln was powerless against the Tech players. Centre College might take another trip North next fall to play Harvard, but we certainly would like to see the Georgians display a little football as well. Holy Cross proved the big sensation on Saturday by virtue of Its 0 victory over Syracuse, and it would not be surprising If Cleo team was made a slight tavorlte for the scrap with B. C.

on Dec. 4. The result of the Purple-Syracuse game only goes to prove the fallacy of comparing scores a football game. Dartmouth took Holy Cross Into camp by the score of 27 to 14. Syracuse beat Dartmouth 10 to 0.

Holy Cross beats Syracuse 3 to 0. Guess W'e have to throw the dope sky high when the big championship games come around. Funny how Bill Brady bobs up when there are any big heavyweight scraps on the fistic horizon. Brady was Jim manager in the Corbett-John L. Sullivan fight down in New Orleans.

He was the big man behind the Corbett-Fitz mill at Carson City, and he brought out Jaff to fight PItz. Now he has a finger in the Dempsey-Carpentler knlll and it is not the little finger either. No mistake "Gil" Doble is bringing that Cornell football team along In great fashion and the Cornellians are acclaiming him as the w'onder of wonders in the pigskin game. It begins to look more and more as If Cornell will be an odds-on favorite for the big mlU with the Quakers on Thanksgiving Day. Down In Georgia they are claiming that Harvard would be soft picking for them considering the easy manner in which they gobbled up Centre.

But the Georgians want to tako into consideration that Centre was a crippled organization after that same Harvard game, which probably was the reason for Georgia' Tech taking the measure of the Danville team. Boston College beat Springfield Training School, as we all expected, but apparently It was a costly victory if Jimmy Fitzpatrick is not going to be able to play the coming B. and B. Cross games. Fitz was the player that G.

U. and H. C. most feared. Cornell, Princeton and Syracuse are going to be strong favorites In the intercollegiate cross-country championship which will be held the morning of the Harvard-Yale game at New Haven.

Princeton last year was beaten, 25-0, by West Virginia, but came back later and tied Harvard, 10-10, and beat Yale. 1'his season the Tigers turned around and beat the Mountaineers, 10-3, so tVie wiseacres are wondering if the Tigers will be able to keep up the good work and beat Harvard in the big game Saturday and follow up with another Yale victory. Down in Tlgervllle they are claiming a no-tle game with the Crimson this time and want nothing short of a clean cut victory. Up In Worcester there is a report at will not down to the effect that ack Barry will be the next manager rtf the Red Sox, Along with Barry, Harry Hooper and Hugh Duffy are among the eligibles, but it is up to Frazee, and no doubt he will come through with one of those 11th hour nnnouncementa which will make us all wonder how he gets that way. While John old team, Georgia Tech, was doing things to Centre College, Hugo Penn Staters were cleaning up the Quaker gridiron with Iletsman's Red and Blue leam.

The old Georgia Tech coach has had pretty tough leddlng since he left the Atlanta college. Jack Cornellians so decisively beat Harvard Ip the country race at Ithaca that even the i'rlmson runners claim that Cornell is I tronger In the hill and dale game than before. There seems to be but 1 ttle doubt about Cornell not only winning the intercollegiate championship, but the coming race against the Eng- 1 shmen as well. CRIMSON IN GOOD SHAPE FORJGERS Men on Injured List are Recovering Fast BY WILTON VAUGH Harvard football players will go through a driving week of practice to prepare them for the great battle with Princeton Saturday in the Stadium. RATE TIGERS HIGHLY Crimson football followers think that Coach Bill Roper Is bringing up from Nassua one of the best elevens that have represented the Orange and Black.

Most of the sessions for the next six days will be Jammed with plays reckoned to stop the speed and open play of the fleet Princeton machine. And as Harvard has been forced to construct a defence against the forward pass to offset the flashy work of Centre College, Williams and lastly Virginia. Head Coach Bob Fisher should have his men Just about set for the terrific onslaughts of the Prlncetonlans. Regulars Eager for Action After a week's rest, the Crimson regulars are eager to get Into action against the second team, which will use Princeton formation and Princeton plays all this week. The victory over the great Centre College eleven was a satisfying piece of work for the Fishermen, and last respite did them a lot of good.

But now they afe anxious for more football. The Cambridge coaohes players have been the Tigers for the past few weeks and they know what to expect and what to provide against. Former Quarterback Billy Roblnsoh has watched the Tigers In several games and he has deposited all his dope In the Crimson books. Last Saturday Captain Arnold Horween, Havemeyer and Quarterback Johnson saw the Princeton gang smash the West Virginia machine, and now they are ready to impart their knowledge of the Roper system to their teammates. Tigers Study Harvard Meanwhile, the (Prlncetonlans have been busy studying the Harvard style of play.

Only last Saturday, Don watched Quarterback Joe Fitzgerald direct the Cambridge campaign against the Virginia team, and Coach Roper as well as Captain Callahan and other New Jersey scouts had paid prior visit to the Harvard Stadium the past season. Saturday Lourie saw at least three star. Cantabrigians who are going to the casualty list, but Harvard expects this week-end. He peeked at Joe Fitzgerald, who is rated as the first-string pilot of the Fishermen, and besides, he saw Roscoe Fitts, the flying back; Dick Humphrey, the star punter; and Flake Brown, the driving substitute guard who worked well enough to warrant their playing against the Tigers, for a little while, anyhow. Expect Cripples to PUy Three of the big boys are still on the casualty list but Harvard expects to have them In spangles before the close of the week.

Helnle Faxon, the regular left tackle, is Just now winning a tussle over the quinsy sore throat demon; "Wy" Hubbard, the regular right tackle, is nursing his bruised leg; and Johnnie Gaston, thck best end on the team, Is recovering from a twisted Joint. This makes the tackle situation look bad If the first stringers not In fine fettle by Saturday. return to the tackle fold will help, although he played only In the opening game against Holy Cross. Harvard is confident, however, and the players and followers are staking all the money they can rake in on viotoi'y. Just now it looks like an even thing.

Jos SulliVan of the Commonwealth A. C. has scratched the Young Sandow- Bobby Dyson bout, sched.uled at his club next Saturday night, because Sandow win not be In trim to box for a week to a cut over his eye. FITZSIMMONS TO BOX CORBETT IN SEMI-FINAL The Arnmry A. A.

has matched Wlllle Corbett of Somerville to meet Billy Fitzsimmons of Chelsea in the semifinal of 10 rounds to the lO-session battle between Vincent Martin and Jimmy (Young) Sacco at Mechanics' building tomorrow night. Corbett and Fitzsimmons have met twice, each boxer having a decision to his credit. There will also be two eight-round bouts. The Triple A has made arrangements to get the election returns by direct wire from New York. M.

P. Dickenson. Coach Bill Roper. F. L.

Murray. B. C. MEN PLUNGED Injury Is Severe Blow to Eleven The injury which removed Jim Fitzpatrick from Springfield clash has spread a cloud of gloom over Boston College. Doctor Sheehan declared yesterday that Fitz may be out of the game for a whole month, which means that B.

C. must face Georgetown and possibly Holy Cross minus the services of the man who has constituted a major portion of the Maroon and Gold attack for three seasons. SPIRIT SAGGED The effect which removal had on his teammates evidenced Itself Saturday. The team's spirit sagged noticeably. The overhead game was 50 per cent ineffective.

The punting was not up to the usual Bdkton grade. With Fitzpatrick out of the game, chances of licking Holy Cross and Georgetown are away below par, especially In view of the performances those two teams turned in over the week-end. Major Cavanaugh and Wesley Englehorn felt pretty about the exhibition which their team staged for the edification of the Springfield fans, who turned out to see the conquerors ot Yale. And this will be a driving week for the B. C.

squad. The coaches were dissatisfied with the work of the line, interference afforded the runner, the work of the backfleld, both on offence and defence, and with the team spirit, which certainly was not the sams spirit that made possible the win over the Bulldog. The Boston coaches did not underrate the power of the Springfield outfit, but evidently the players did. The coaches flgured that, playing their usual game, the Newton boys could pile up a big score on the outfli. The players must have thought that It could be done by only half trying.

The B. C. team has one possible alibi, and that is the poor condition of the Springfield gridiron. Pratt Field was a veritable Sahara. The duet lay almost two Inches deep, shifted like the sands of the desert underfoot and made poor lung food.

LEIONERS TO STAGE BIG WRESTLING SHOW Wrestling will be featured by the Providence Post of the American which will stage the first public profesional show given In many years In that city on Friday night in Infantry when three matches will be decided. Frank Prlstensky will be one of the stars who are to take part. It is planned to alternate wrestling and boxing shows for the benefit of the legion fund. Two Big Football Games This Week Harvard and Tigers Will Graple at Harvard and Tigers Will Grapple at Green in New York BY NEAL R. Football switches into the high- powered sector for the current week.

The first of the Big Three matches is on the bill, with Harvard tussling with the Tigers at the Stadium next Saturday aft, Dartmouth meeting Cornell on the Polo Grounds in New York, and Brown bucking into the Yale machine in the New Haven Bowl. STADIUM SOLD OUT Naturally, the Harvard-Tlger brawl has the headline spot on the programme. The demand for tickets has exceeded that of any previous Princeton game In Boston, and therq will be another sell-out on Soldiers Field to equal the Centre College record of a week ago. On the basis of results. Harvard should be favored to win by the bookmaklng gentry.

The Tigers, wrestling with West Virginia last week, had all they could do to punch out a victory. It was quite a surprising result, since Yale had belted the West Virginians a resounding wallop In the week before, by a 24-0 soore. From the press accounts at tPrince- ton, the Tiger machine could not win the game on football. It was only when it opened a fancy attack, which was designed exclusively for its big three games, that it was able to pierce the armor and roll up the touchdown that took the game. Comparative Scores Count That sound bright for Princeton until you remember that comparative scores worth the woodpulp they are printed on.

That was proved last season when West Virginia showed the Tigers up as a set of bums and they came (back the following week and held a crack Harvard team to a 10-10 tie and really played them off their feet. In fact, this comparative score gag got another mortal stab on when the mighty Syracuse team that had beaten Dartmouth went In and sucked poison Irom the Holy Cross outfit that had been soundly trounced by the Green team a fortnight before. No, you can never tell about the past performanfees In football. They count for nothing when rivals meet, and when Princeton lines up against the Crimson, it can be a toss-up so far as wo see. If there Is to be any odds on the game, however, there is no reason why Harvard should not be the favorite.

Crimson Men Saw Tigers Work The leading members of the Crimson team saw Princton in action on Saturday, and whatever open attack was thrown on view was absorbed by those eager Harvard If Princeton showed very much of what it wanted to hold In reserve, that will count against their chances. But it is always good policy to believe that you never can tell about a football game. The only thing certain about game is that the Stadium will be jammed to Its limits and the Harvard team will wear crimson Jerseys. Beyond that, you can a lot; but guessing is costly this fall, as plenty of bookies have discovered on their bank balances. The outstanding pieces of flotsam In gridiron backwash was the defeat of Syracuse by Cleo Holy Cross team.

There was no fluke In that victory, for the Purple carried the battle Into Syracuse territory throughout the game and had twice as many chances to soore as Chick cocky outfit. Only a complete reversal of form can explain the Syracuse downfall. Against Dartmouth the week before the Orange eleven showed like a troupe of champions. The very players whp looked like dubs when stacked against the Holy Cross boys were playing like wonders on Hanover soil. Nothing can explain a wholesale shift In ability like that except overconfidence.

We think that is what served to fell the Orange. Syracuse Wa? Panic-Stricken They rather thought It was a contest In first half. In the second half they found Holy Cross fighting fiercer than before, and Syracuse In turn became panic-stricken. Certainly, In the closing quarter, they played anything but real, true football. They pulled amateurish stunts that a high school outfit would blush about.

Only a real stroke of that panicky feeling can explain the dumbness of the Meehan team. Holy Cross now ascends to the plane of the wonder teams for 1920. It gets right up near the top of the procession, alongside Its rival, Boston College. And Tt deserves to be there. The Purple team had all the gameness and grit that B.

C. had In Its memorable battle with Yale; although It lacked something of the finesse that B. C. showed in its attack against the Blue. The triumph of B.

C. over Y'ale and the similar triumph of Holv Cross over the Orange certainly lends a lot of color and interest to the B. C. match that is scheduled for Boston on Dec. 4.

You can bank on a full house at Braves Field then, and a furious battle for the mob to gaze at. Other Results True to Form On other gridirons Saturday, results ran true to form, Penn State took Penney into camp with very little trouble. Yale found Colgate not much bother, and Harvard had a lovely afternoon with Virginia. Macchla, as usual, was the only factor that Tufts could count on In a one-sided battle with Dartmouth. Cornell, however, showed a great deal of spunk In flaying the Rutgers team.

This Cornell outfit, by the way, is going to give Dartmouth a bushel of trouble. Under Gllmour Dobie, this season, It has come with better speed than any team had In Ithaca since the 1915 outfit that defeated Eddie team. In his first season Dobie seems to have hit on the right combination, and there is a great deal of hope In Cornellian breasts that their team will wallop the Green this week. It be such a surprise, at that. Notro victory over the Army was not astonishing.

The Mid- Western team was reputed to have a and powerful attack, and they bore out all the advance statements. Down In Georgia, the collapse of Centre College was nOt so unexpected, either. The Centre boys had pointed their efforts at the Haiward game, and they were In a bad way, physically, following the combat In the Stadium. Some of the outstanding players on the Centre team were In the lineup against Georgia Tech for only a brief time, and defeat was all they could reap under the circumstances. The Yaie-Brown battle on tap for this coming Saturday will not find the Bruins having the dangerous lineup they used to boast.

In previous seasons, Brown has Invaded Now Haven on this particular date and given Yale plenty to worry about. It is a fast little team that Ned Robinson has at Providence this fall, but not an eleven to compare with those of the pre-war days. Yale should not have to extend itself to put over an undisputed victory. Our Own America and Weni Stick to It BY NEAL R. Why wait for the gridiron dead-and-injured list to be compiled before choosing your all-America team? We are able to beat our opponents to it today by announcing our choices and our alibis for our choices.

The 11 players we select are bona bde amateurs on bona fide pay rolls. It would be a miracle team if it so mythical. This all- America leam is copyrighted and protected by shoulder pads in all countries, including the Scandinavian. We present it to our readers thus early in the season they can forget about it by the time Waiter team is for sale at all newsstands. Now for the big news: The three best backs we have seen this season are Vale.ska and the one on the dame in the talcum powder ads.

Those are our choices and stick to For quarterback we name Eddie Cicotte, who called all the plays two days in advance and never missed a signal, The best ends in the game today are Lew Dockstader and A1 G. Fields. These are two ends that can get results from bones and stop almost anything, including a show. For tackles we nominate the Smith no substitutes These boys can break up interference like it was a six-day cold. They are famous cough drop-kickers.

The two leading guards of the year are Bink Woof us of the Boston Elevated School of Courtesy and Spike McGinn of the Brooklyn Rapid Transit. Nobody who is rushing has a chance against this pair. Unaided, they have shut out thousands of commuters. No line is complete without them. For centre we have picked Warren G.

Harding of the Ohio School for Presidents. He is the best roving centre of the you never know where he stands. Whenever tliere is any kind of a kick, Harding is sure to be at both ends and, if possible, in the middle. covering quite a lot of territory. He is the all- America roving reservations.

(Copyrighted, 1920.) INJURIES HURT ELICHANCES Capt. Callahan May Be Shifted to Guard NEW HAVEN, Oot. football men do not regard chances quite equal for their winning tho Brown game, for they defeated Colgate with difficulty here yesterday, 21 to 7, while Brown easily beat that team 14 to 0. Of the Yalo cripples Tom Dickens will probably play no more this fall, and Aldrich will not be used till the Princeton match next week Saturday Captain Callahan. John Acosta and Thorne Murphy will bo given light scrimmaging this week, but are not likely to play before the Bulldog faces the Tiger.

The coaches talk of retaining Harry Cross, at centre, as his showing yesterday, aside from two atrocious fumbles, was gilt-edged, and his stock is now quoted ahead of even that of Billy Galvin. Ho weighs 220 pounds but Is very fast The keenest shortage of material la now at guard and the coaches are discussing no less a radical move than that of switching the veteran Captain Tim Callahan from the snapback position, where he has always proved a roving centre of the Wild West type, to the defensive berth at guard. The squad has only two guard candidates of quality, the veteran John Acosta and Herbert Herr. Acosta, however, may not regain perfect condition this season and will probably not play before the Princeton bout. In case Acosta proves to have regained physical condition, Callahan will get berth.

greatest weakness yesterday was at right tackle, where Colgate shot knife plays through Bill Maokay time and again. Mackay is the tallest member of the team and his tackle game has steadily improved. He will be retained this week, although the coaches will clisely watoh the work of Jack who will get the position If defensive play does not improve against Brown. 5 Pans who remained away from the Commonwealth A. C.

on Saturday night missed a rattling good tourney. The feature bout on Saturday night marked the reappearance here of AJ Shubert of New Bedford. He not only whipped his man, Joe Mendell, of Philadelphia, but made such a great hit that the club wants him over again as soon as he can give It a date. Battling Reddy of New York has beeh suggested as the next opponent of Shubert, as Bobby Josephs Is temporarily out of the running because of a damaged nose. Should Reddy and Shubert clash, and the New Bedford man again win.

Manager Sullivan of the club will try and coax Josephs into a bout with the The w'rlter has suspicions that the mysterious iCubans who are to be consulted concerning the Dempsey-Carpentler fight are Messrs. Jack Curley and Harry Frazee. If Curley the real manager of Jack De.mpsey, then Jack; knows blank well who Is. Mac, may be right about Bat Levinsky and Barry Williams being brothers, but Bat says Williams is not his brother, and Williams says the same thing of Bat. Then again.

Williams says his right name Is Lafayette Williams, that his mother Is of Irish descent p.nd his father of Welsh family. Barring the fact that right name is Levinsky and that he is a Hebrew and his parents 1 think you have the wrong dope, though appreciating your interest. There will be two 10-rounderis and two six-rounders at the Commercial A. C. tourney to be held at the Grand Opera House on Wednesday night.

In one 10, Shaver will take the place of Tommy MoFarland against Joey Connolly of Charlestown, while In the other Young Grady of Pownal, will face K. O. Chick Miller. Both of these bouts should be peppery. Bat Masterson In giving the Dempsey- Carpentler Cuba fight the once over, says in part: But maybe Cuba itttS la camouflage for the time being.

Something later on is likely to develop to give the whole shooting match a different aspect. At any rate, It looks to me as If the whole thing was one grand bluff. The Idea that a syndicate of Cuban promoters would make a bona- fide offer of $500,000 for the Dempsey- Carpentler battle is so preposterous a proposition that no one but a lunatic would believe It, and yet It might be true. However, have to be shown before believe It. Havana would be all right if an ordinary sized purse were offered for the battle.

But $500,000 Is Just about three times what Havana would stand The Jack Johnson-Jess Willard battle cost the promoters about $70,000 and the gate receipts accounted for amounted to $56,000, a net loss of $14,000. Horseracing was going on at the time and the show had been well for weeks. Moreover, both had been on the ground training for almost a month before the battle took place, yet $56,000 was all the show drew. PAT AND DAN DOWD TO MEEl Matchmaker Tom Goodwin of th. Quincy Boxing Club has signed Pa McCarthy of Roxbury to meet Dai Dowd of South Boston In the feature bout of 10 rounds at his club Thursdaj night.

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