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THURSDAY EVENING, JANUARY 31, 1935. THE PAMPA DAILY NEWS, Pampa, Texaa PAGE FIVE- HAUPTMANN WITNESS WON'T ANSWER ATTORNEY HOLDS MAN WAS NOT IN BRONX DURING 'SNATCH' BY WILLIAM A. KINNEY, Associated Press Staff Writer. FI.EMINGTON, N. .f., .Tan. 31 (/P)—Tim placid young Swedish rarpcntcr. Efvcrt C'arlslrom, faced further rrojis-r.xaminalioii today nn his story ho saw Bruno Hauptmann in a Bronx bahcry-tnnrh- rcom the night of the Lindbergh kidnaping. For the past 20 hours detectives throughout the metropolitan New York-New Jersey area have been checking every detail of lib testimony, and the slate expected to use all the information developed In these investigations in an attempt lo discredit the witness and his story. Cross-examination of Cnrlstrom finally got under way at 10:25. Q. New you testified yesterday you saw the defendant only once nnd that was on the night of March 1, 1932 in the bakery? A. Yes. Q» And you testified you were up In the Bronx that night to sec a young lady who lived near the bakery, a young lady of whom you were very fond? A. Yes. Q. Did you see her? A. I didn't. Q. Oh you didn't? A. It was too late. Q. But you said that was why you went up there that night? A. Yes. The witness told Wilentz he fixed the time that he went to the Bronx Bakery by the subway clock. Refuses To Answer After visiting the bakery Carlstrom said he wont to Brooklyn, about 1 a. in. Q. What did you do there? Carlstrom did not answer for a long time, and Wilcntz asked If he understood the question. Rellly interposed, suggesting that the witness might feel that It might incriminate him. . "Will j1:ur answer incriminate you." Wilentz asked. "Yes," said Carlstrom and an answer was not required. Q. Tell me what time you left Brooklyn? • A. About 5 in the morning. The witness said he • finally gol. back to Dunellen at 9:30 a. m. He was' employed as a caretaker at an emDly housn there. The attorney general then directed the witness to return to his ac- count of seeing Hauptmann on the kidnap night, Carlstrom said. The prisoner was reading a paper when he saw him in the shop where Mrs. Hauptmnnn was counter girl and waitress. Carlstrom said "as far as he could see," Hauptmann was reading a newspaper that night in the bakery. The witness, prompted by Wilent;:, admitted he had no engagement to meet "Esther" but cftme to the Brolix with expectation of meeting her. Wilentz asked the witness to identify Arthur Larsen, with whom he boarded in the Bronx. Larsen arose from a chair near the prosecution table and Carlstrom said he remembered him. Q Arthur Larson worked in Dunellen with you? A. Yes. Q. He stayed in that houso with you? A. No, lie lived in the Bronx. Q, Hut he didn't go home to the Bronx every day he worked? A. No. Q. He stayed in Duncllcn at night? A. Yes. Q. Slept In the same house with you? A. Yes. Q. You never said a word about. Larsen yesterday? A. Because you never asked me. Wilcntz began reading yesterday's record to show that Carlstrom testified he lived alone in the house in Dunellen. Q. The truth is that you never left Dunellen on any week day night, except the week-end? A. I never left on week-ends. I left the night of March 1. Q. Don't you remember you and Larsen both slept in that house the night of March 1? A. No. I don't. Wilentz asked Carlstromg if he would believe it if the house owner, Christiansen, showed records to prove It. "I don't think so," the witness said. Q. Mr. Christiansen came out to Dunellen to take possession of the house in the end of March? A. He came out in middle of April. Q. Didn't Mr. Christiansen take you back to New York on April 2 1932? A. No. Objects To Records Wilentz had Christiansen's book of records, but Reilly objected to having the witness refer to it. Carlstromg asserted he "would believe my own testimony" rather than Christiansen's records. Wilentz brought out front pages of a New York newspaper, bearing photographs of Hauptmann, taken at the time of the arrest. Carlstromg said he did not recall seeing the pictures. If ho did, he said, h e did not recognize them as the man he .saw in the bakery the kidnap night. At one pause in the questioning Carlstroing- glared at Arthur Larsen, the man who allegedly told the state he and Carlstromg slept in the same house in Dunellen on the kidnap night. It was the first time his placid expression had changed. Wilentz ended his examination of Carlstromg and Rsilly asked him about his duties at the Dunellen house. The witness said it was his duty to live there and care for the fire. Larsen, he said, came to paint the inside of the house. The painter came to the house some time after he arrived and remained about a month. Larsen, he said, lived in the hpuse. Carlstrom explained that when he ordered a meal in broken English at the bakery Hauptmann laughed at him. He said lie "got a good look at him" then. The witness told Reilly he was "In the company of women" between 1 a. in. and 5 a. m. after he left the bakery. Witrntz brought from the witness that he had loU the Christiansen house unguarded that night. "Playing hookey on your birtli- dav?" Reilly asked. The witness nodded. "You didn't play hookey on any other birthdays that year, did you?" asked WilcnU. Kiss Testifies The by-play between, counsel ceased and Carlstrom was excused. Louis Kiss, a bald, cadaverous looking man, was the next defense witness called. Q. Where do you live? A. New York City. Q. What's your occupation? A. Silk painter. Q. How long have you been in the United States? A. In 1922. Q. Where do you come from originally? A. Hungary. The witness spoke with an accent which mad e him difficult to understand. Kiss told of his various places of employment in New York City. Q. On March 1, 1932, were you in Prrciericksen's restaurant in 'the Bronx? Read 'Dog Article' A. Yes, but I find out It was Predericksen's last Sunday. Q. And when you read the article about the dog, what did you do? A. I jumped up and I says to my wVre (laufflitei 1 ). Q. Never mind what you said to your wife. It was about the article in the paper? A. Yes. H-^ then related how he notified Reilly. i , ( man In broken English, Kiss told of his appearance as a defense witness. He said he saw the story of the trial in the paper and went out last Sunday and called 'Reilly's Brooklyn office. H e said he was told to report Monday at the office and on Tuesday he came to Plemington. The witness told of getting lost during a subway trip to the Bronx- March 1, 1932. He took a bus and finally got off to inquire his whereabouts. "I. found a man," he explained, "who told me where the subway station was." Q. And where was that subway station? A. 233rd. "When I left the man I looked at my watch. It was 8:15, I saw his bakery lunch room on my way to the station, so I dropped In for a cup of coffee," the silk artist went on. Q. What time did you arrive in the bakery? A. About 8:15. K. Who waited on you? A. A lady. Saw Bruno With Dog Kiss told of a man entering wltl a police dog. Q. What happened? A. The lady came from serving the coffee and the man said Ir German to her "somebody wantec to take the dog away." Q. You got a good look at tin man? A. Yes. Q. The restaurant was well light cd? A. Yp.s. Q. Did you see the man in tin courtrooms? A. Yes. Kiss stood up and with long arm pointed at Hauptman. Kiss, prompted by Reilly's ques tions. snid he connected the man the dog and the incident with Hauptmann after seeing his trial pictures in the newspapers. The witness said he connected tin bakery incident with Htuiptmam also from the radio report of the kidnaping, March 1. Reilly concluded with Kiss, bring- out that he was not connected with Hauptmann nor related to, "anyoni in the. courtroom." Direct examination concluded ant a 5 minute recess was taken at 11:16 a. m. At the conference before trla stalled, the defense counsel complained of quotations in morning newspapers from prosecution coun sel that statements of defense wit nesses would be investigated fo: possible perjury. Justice Trenchard advised them to submit affidavits of any irregularities if they chose. No immediate action was taken. Court resumed at 11:28 and the stale took Kiss for cross-examination. Attorney General Wilentz conducted the questioning. Q. When you saw the dog you recognized the man? A. I looked up and recognized the man. Q. But because of the dog? A. Yes, and because he spoke in German. Q. When you saw the pictures in 1934 you didn't recall that was the man? A. No. It didn't come to me. Addresses Recorded Kiss recounted for Wilentz his career In the United States after arriving in 1922. He said he worked as a bus boy while living in Yorkville in 1924. He was a chauffeur at Cedarhurst seven months and went back to New York in 1925. As Kiss continued his recital tliri. the succeeding years, Captain John J. Lamb, of the New Jersey state police, recorded every address given HELP! Protect These . The Pampa Hardware and Implement Company is offering you your choice of a Remington Model 31-A Pump Gun, 12, 16 or 20 Gauge. Price $47.90, for the party gaining the most points, for killing Eagles, Hawks,.Road Runners and Dry Land Terrapins. You must bring to our store the right foot of the above. As you know they kill each year thousands of our Game Birds. Let's stop this by killing these predatory birds and animals when we see them. Watch our advertisements each month for reports on the number killed. . . . REMEMBER THIS CONTEST WILL CLOSE SEPTEMBER FIRST, 1935. KILL THE EAGLE -- HAWK ROAD RUNNER — TERRAPIN HERE ARE THE POINTS! Eagle 100 Hawk, blue darter 75 Hawk, sparrow 50 Hawk, chicken 50 Road Runner 75 Terrapin, dry land 50 REMEMBER Be Sure to Register Before Sep. tember 1st, 1935, and Try to Win One of These GUNS Remington Model 31-A 12,16, or 20 Gauge This Gun Is Worth $4790 Pampa Hardware & Implement Co. PHONE 4 120 NO. CUTLER for checking the witness's story. Wilentz then had the witness relate in detail the various employments he held since he has been In this country. .Kiss reeled off street addresses, the names o'f numerous employers, the exact duration of each job whether It was a few days or few months, and other data. Only once did he falter when he WHS telling of a Batik studio he had "at 63rd Street and Eighth Avenue." Wilentz asked if Kiss were sure there was such a corner in New Yord as 63rd Street and 8th Avenue. The witness said he wasn't sure whether it was Eighth or Ninth Avenue, although he lived, worked and received mail at the studio for a year. This questioning Interlude over, the silk painter went confidently on with his recitaj. Wilentz called the witness's attention to direct testimony that exactly one week before the Lindbergh kidnaping he had taken his sick seven year old son to the hospital. Q. Sure of that? A. Yes. Q. Couldn't be mistaken? A. No. Q. You'll stand on that statement? A. Positive. Wilentz nsked him details on the hospltalization of his boy on Feb. 22. 1932, the name of the doctor and the departure from his home. Wilentz read Kiss his previous testimony that he took his boy to the hospital "exactly one week" before the kidnaping. "One week exactly Is the 29th of February," Wilentz said to the witness. Fisher interrupted to point out that 1 a. m. in the morning, when the boy was taken to the hospital, would be the 23rd of February. Wilentz suggested the Kiss' testimony be accepted as he gave it. Kiss told of making "rum" from alcohol and flavoring. He said he was taking two pints to a friend in the Bronx when he got lost the night of March first. Q. Did you give this rum you made to friends just as a charitable? A. Oh no, no, they paid. Q. How much did you sell it for? A. $1.25 a pint. The delivery of rum was about 9 p. m. Kiss said, after leaving the restaurant. Kiss said he had not been drink- Ing his "rum" that night. Kiss' memory, for the second time became hazy as Wilentz pursued the rum sale questions. The witness said he could not recal: whether the delivery of the two pint was the first or second to the customer in the Bronx. During the quiet badgering of the witness, Hauptmann sat forward in his chair, hand on chin, listening: intently. Fisher objected to Wilentz' question: "So it was shortly before midnight, February 27, trj<ft you took your boy to the hospital?" A delay for examination of the record followed, Wilentz released the witness and Reilly asked him when he called a doctor. Kiss ssid "about midnight.' Reilly asked that the record, which stated the call was made at 9 p. in., be corrected. Justice Trenchard declined, saying "You may question the witness," Kiss said the departure for the hospital occurred at 1 a. m. of February 23, He was excused and the noon recess was called at 12:27 p. in. Love Letters of Maj. Shepard Are Heard in Trial TOPEKA, Kas., Jan. 31. (if)—The ove letters in the long dead romance of Maj. Charles A. Shepard and a blonde young stenographer confronted the retired army med- cal officer today in his second federal court trial for wife-murder. Containing such terms as "my larling Charley," and "my darling iweetheart," they will be presented is evidence by the government in an effort to prove its contention ;he 63-year-old physician fatally >oisoned his second wife, Mrs. Zenana Sheppard, that he might be ree to marry the blonde stenographer from Texas, Miss Grace Brandon. Miss Brandon, who later broke with the defendant, was the ace prosecution witness in the major's 'irst trial which ended in his conviction and a life sentence. S. S. Alexander, United States district attorney, said the stenographer would be called probably late today or tomorrow. Constantly at the side of the slender grey-haired defendant, is lis third wife, the former Alice J. Watt, of Denver. She turned her lead away yesterday as glass jars containing portions of the viscera of the second Mrs. Shepard were presented in evidence. Treasure Island' To Be Shown Here On Tuesday Night The showing of "Treasure Island" "or county relief clients will be at he State theater next Tuesday light instead of at the Rex theater as formerly announced. The first showing will be at 6:45 o'clock with he second beginning; at 8:30 o'clock. Every person attending must secure a ticket at relief headquarters n the basement of the city hall. The ticket will be marked good for me of the shows. The show is being sponsored by he Twentieth Century Forum. aken to her Ijame in LeFors from "'ampa hospital yesterday. She had leen ill with pneumonia. Mrs. Ray Carter was able to be Mrs. A- A. Steele has returned rom Tucson, Ariz, where she spent he past (wo weeks. . .. . 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