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A pp iiAIiA VE 1 Jaies T. Long By RIPLEY (On rrqaral, it nlih tiddeerf elope, Hubert L. Klpley will send proofs and detail of aa)thln depleted bf him In Ikean rartooos.) Believe It Or Not PITHEIS RITE ID TO 9 OVER ormer Pitcher eat. Heydler Theory Upset. ODoul Once Slabman.

Thorpe Rated Greatest. Bush Ranks Waners. Ring-Foul Discussion. MANY EX-HURLERS STAR CLOUTERS M. TECENT publication of the National Leagues official bat XV ting averages for 1929, showing Lefty ODoul, Philly out fielder, to be hitting champion of the year in the senior circuit gave new weight to the arguments against the proposed revival in the fu ture of John A.

Heydler plan for 10 man teams in baseball. When Heydler first made the recommendation a year ago he suggested that each club be al lowed to use an extra player in every game to bat for the pitcher. One of the objections offered then carries greater force than ever now, in view of ODouls achievement. For ODoul started out as a pitcher. He failed to make the major league grade with the Yankees and Red Sox, went back to the minors, and eventually was converted into an outfielder on account of his hitting ability and an injury to his left shoulder.

If Heydler 10-man plan had been in operation then OfDouls batting power would not have been discovered the players career would have been brought to an abrupt close and baseball would have lost a popular figure. AND the ODoul case Is only one of a number of instances that might be cited. The big leagues, past and present, have known many exceptionally good batsmen who started their careers as slab artists but whose diamond lives, if the Heydler idea had been In force would have been cut short because their hitting ability would have remained undeveloped and unknown. Babe Ruth, king of sluggers, tops the list of the star clouters who broke into the game on the mound. George jMsltf- was another, and the roll of new and old players of the same converted type might be extended to include Bill Terry, Fddie Roush, Chick Ilafev, Del Bissonette, Charley Jamieson, Sam Rice, Bing Miller, Goose Goslin, Rube Bressler, Joe Ilauser, Mike Donlin, Cy Seymour.

Jimmv Callahan, timer Smith, Tom McCreery and many others. TOOmSTS By JOCK SUTHERLAND Head Coach Pitt football frjuad. LOS ANOdLES, 30 The last regularly scheduled game on the Universl of Pittsburgh 1929 football schedule was that with Penn State, Thanksgiving Day. Following that game we laid a-ide our uniforms with no thought of using them before next spring. The athletic council of the university not seem favor-a 1 inclined toward postseason games.

We had fln- Jock Sutherland fehed a creditable season and quite a few of our fnends did not want us to risk the chance of spoiling it. Then, too, the team had been under somewhat of a strain all season. We were rated better than our opponents in every game, and th's naturally increased the mental stiain under which the team labored. Our filial game with Penn State on Thanksgiving Day was a splendid example of this. There were, however, many people extremely desiri is of seeing Pittsburgh represent the East in the annual Rose Bowl classic.

I b-lieve a great deal of benefit can be denved from such a trip, especially when it comes at a time when very little class room woik is missed. PRACTICE RESUMED Ten days after Thanksgivii g. we accepted the invitation to meet the University of Southern California New Years Day at Pasadena. The next day, or after an 11 days' lay-off, we resumed practice. Our acceptance of the invitation brought with it a deluge of suggestions on how to travel, hat to eat and what to drink.

Some even went so far as to tell us how to sleep. Many of our well-wishing fiends presented us with hints and suggestions which were very amusing. For example, quite a few letters were received from desert inhabitants warning us to be careful of the water supply, using as a horrible example the fate of many of those who went in search of gold during the rush of 49. One of our informants painted a very gloomy picture for us by saying that even Alkali Ike could not stand the hardships encountered on a transcontinental trip. Fortunately, many of this years party also made the trip in 1927, and hope the experience gained has helped us in our journey this year.

In planning our trip this time we decided to travel farther South than we did in 1927, so that we might keep away from the high altitude, hoping that such plan would make conditions for piactice more satisfactory. STARTED CHRISTMAS We left Pittsburgh Christmas night, arriving in St. Louis at 1:20 the next day. That afternoon we were the guests of Washington University. The field was no shape for practice being covered with about six inches of mud and snow.

Excellent treatment was accorded us by Washington University officials. Our next stop was at Dallas. Texas. Friday afternoon, ideal weather conditions, a real hospitable spirit on the part of Methodist University, and a live wire Chamber of Commerce made our stay In Dallas profitable and extremely pleasant. Arriving in El Paso Saturday afternoon our party went immediately to the El Paso High School field for a short work out A short sight-seeing trip around FI Paso occupied the remainder of the afternoon.

STICK TO GAME Yesterday was spent at the Santa Rita Hotel in Tucson, Arizona. A day of rest was a very welcome word to the boys after spending four straight nights on sleepers. We arrived In. Pasadena about 9 clock this morning, twro davs before the game Summing things up, I W'ould like to say that when we went out for the game tw'o years ago I believe the players seemed to think that the trip was of greater importance than the game itself. We have tried to guard against such a condition on this years trip, and I would like to think that so far as the players are concerned.

they have looked more like a football team and less like tourists than in 1927. (Copyright, 1920 bv Christy Walsh 8n IN THE opinion of Wallace Denny, Indian trainer of the Stanford gridiron team, which wound up Its 1929 season in yesterdays meeting with the Army in Palo Alto, Jim Thorpe, old Carlisle star who was seen in action at Forbes Field his heyday, was the greatest football player of all time. When I am with Pop Warner, I always agree that Ernie Nevers, of Stanford, was the greatest player," says Denny, but when Pop isnt around I hold that Jim Thorpe topped them all. 4 A EVERS was great but Thorpe was in a elate by himself. 1 fa never got hurt he wot built of iteel and concrete and he was smart, too.

There Wat only one Thorpe. The greatest lineman I ever taw was John DeWitt, of Princeton, around 1904, a guard. The greatest tackle was Fat Henry, of W. J. We had eo many great ones at Carlisle its hard to place them.

Pete Houser, a bach, was second to Thorpe. The Pierce boys, Bemus and Hawley, were wonders in the line. fij NEVER shall forget the day we pulled the hidden ball trick on 1 Harvard in Cambridge. I sewed an elastic at the bottom of Dillons jersey and our boys hid the ball under the jersey after the kickoff. Dillon ran right at Marshall, of Harvard, and as Dillon appeared not to have the ball Marshall sidestepped and then stood mystified as the Carlisle player continued running down the field for a touchdown.

"Coach Warner had told the officials about the trick he intended to pull, and they could find nothing in the rules prohibiting it. The Harvard coach pulled out the rule book, but had to agree that the plav was legal. Warner Is the greatest ever. Give him half-way good material and he does the rest. WIEN the Pittsburgh Hockey Club had Dick Carroll as coach In the amateur days severals years ago it set that Is now being adopted generally in the professional ranks.

Coaches have come into fashion in the National League this season, and they are doing very well at their jobs, too. Edouard (Newsy) Lalonde, of the Ottawa Senators; Dick Irvin, of the vastly improved Chicago Black Hawks, and Jerry La-flamme, of the Montreal Maroons, are giv- ing fine service to their clubs. All are ex- players with years of experience and know YT, i their business 1929. King Features Syndicate, Inc, Great Britain rights reserved. Bv JESS CARVER, Msff LOS ANGELES.

Dec. 30 me colieg.ate football family has once again broken up, and today Is spread from here to an Francisco. The armal of the unbeaten Pitt Panthers here early this morning, too early in fact, to warrant its being greeted by any sort of a rf preventative gjthennsr. has induced most of the Eastern and Midwestern critics who are on the West coast to foregather here to await the meeting New Years Day between the Panthers and the Trojans of U. S.

C. Pitt is making its second venture into the West for the Rose Bowl assignment. In 1927, Dr. John Bain (Jock) Sutherland, head coach at the Steel City institution. brought his crack Patt eleven out for a game with Stanford.

He lost this decision to his former mentor, 7 to 6, and this year hopes to carve out a generous slice of revenge on the Far West by taking Howard Jones Trojans into camp. ODDS FAVOR PITT The Panthers left Pittsburgh Christmas night, and traveling -v la the Southern Pacific, rolled into this city this morning fairly well acclimated. Betting odds on the Easterns are being quoted at 10 to 9. although the smart layers of douch hope, by game time Wednesday, that correct waeering will rule the roost, with Pitt on the short end of about the same odds. The few football followers, including coaches and writers, from the East, who are not on hand here for the Pitt game, are remaining in San Francisco for the classic East-West all-star team struggle, the annual benefit game of the San Francisco Shnners for the Hospital for Crippled Children.

Pitt hasn't been In town long enough to start the boys talking, and so today most of the lobbyists are putting our old friend, Capt. Biff Jones, defunct Army coach, on the pan for the relatively poor showing his Cadets made against Stanford up in Palo Alto Saturday. Army took an unmerciful licking from Pop's well drilled and powerfully organized Cardinals. A one-touchdown defeat would not have been unexpected, but the way in which Pop made monkeys of the Cadet defense with his fake reverses and forward passes In the second half will hardly go down in history as a compliment to Army or Eastern football. CADET DEFENSE POOR West Points secondary defense might as well have been in the press box during the second half as on the field.

I saw the Soldiers against Notre Dame, and they played far and away smarter oot-ball on that cold, cold day in old New York than they did here Saturday. Miller, backing np the line as center, and the usually resourceful Murrel. fullback, were repeatedly sent chasing afte, the wrong man. With the result that Chuck Smallmg, Cardinal fullback, ripped and snorted his way through the Cadet line for grain after gam that should not have made. Stanford used just six plnys, reverse, a double reverse, a sti aight tackle smash, a spot pass, buck from close formation the old Warner triple jass, won the ball game.

Army a dozen which failed to function because the Army line played full ball. Smallmg, gaining 158 yards in 26 times he carried the ball, -mec1 the entire Army team. averaged 6.1 yards per tote. such a bad figure when one down and figures that the was pruned, ready and due click this game. The Cadets also have come in a basket full of entice for running the gieat Christy more often.

Cagle earned ball 50 times, two times less did Murrel. It was Cagle's ball game, and no ons will him as Aimy's biggest. best most dangerous bet He took licking while he was in there, moie than once, on second Cagle could have taken ths when it was given to ths plodding, dependable, blit never dangerous Murrel. DRILLS TODAY Pitt will diill in the Rose Bowl afternoon, staging its first woikout on California soil, dock brought himself 33 ball players is really the fiist coach to an Eastern eleven to ths with enough reserves of the soit to give it a fighting against the acclimated and powerful Western teams. Among visiting writers, critics coaches here to watch Pitt U.

S. C. and quartered at Biltmore in this sunny city, Chet Smith, Cleveland Fress; Richards Vidmer. New York Her ald-Ti lbtine; Daniel Mark witz, Yolk Telegram, 'orge (Himself' Trevor, New York Sun. Clarence W.

(Tubbyi Srcirs, Minnesota; Sam Willaman. Ohio Charley Paddock, sysrlnt champion. Dick Hyland, former on Pm Twenty.) TOMORROW A REMARKABLE FOOTBALL FEAT. INKS THY TOR POINT National League Hockey Summary GAME TOMORROW. Ottawa at 1.

Rangers, AMERICANS SET DM 3-2 STANDING OF THE TEAMS. American Croup. LAST NIGHTS RESULTS. Americans 8 Pirate Montreal ft Detroit liiicago CANAIUAN-AMl RIC IFAOtE. Philadelphia 1 New Haven 0 AMFRICAN ASSOCIATION.

Kansas (Ilv 3 M. Paul Overtime. AJATURALTY, when he Wat manager of the Pirates, Donie Bush always declined to pate any opinion publicly on the relative merits of Paul and Lloyd in'aner, but now that he hat no local connection he does not hesttats to pronounce Lloyd the better player of the two. "They are both great ball players, if you ash me," Donie is quoted, "but the edge lies with Lloyd. Hes just as good a hitter as Paul, and a better fielder, thrower and base runner.

The longer watched that little squirt play the greater my admiration for him became. Honestly, he is one of the greatest players I have ever seen, and, man and boy, have seen a lot of them." SATURDAYS RESULTS. Rangers 3 Ottawa Huston 3 tanadiens NEW YORK, Dec. 30. (AP.) Two goals In the listless first and a brilliant bit of thinking by Billy Boyd that brought another In the third frame gave the New York Americans a 3-to-2 victory over the Pittsburgh Pirates last night In the battle of the tailcnders of the National Hockey League.

The Americans broke loose late in the opening period, after both teams had played a poor brand of hockey and scored two counters less than three minutes apart. Billy Holmes and Rabbit McVeigh made the goals on passes from Reise and Himes. Pittsburgh outplayed its rival to tie In the second period. Bud Jarvis scored first Pirate goal on a pass from Hal Darragh. A couple of minutes later Archie Briden sent a well-aimed long shot into the goal to tie the count The deciding goal came in 3.27 of the third period Boyd took the puck down alone and outguessed Miller to score.

The lineup- Americans- c.rant bimiwon Hryrtke Himes 1 Vetgh tohppird Amprictn sparts 2 Cl Miller I) rnur 1 hnuth Lntrn iarran L. Jarvis -KiIm Cormcher Hur- -P. ZIVIG By HARRY KECK, At the age of 28. Pete Zivic, eldest of the- three fighting Zivic brothers Jack, Pete and Fritzie engages In his one hundreth professional battle when he boxes Jackie Rodgers, local Negro knojkout star, in the 10 round mam bout at Motor Square Garden. New Years afternoon.

Prior to boxing Patsy Young, of Beechvlew. in his first professional start, in the same ring, on Christmas Day, 1920, Pete engaged in 57 amateur bouts 20 months and his simon-pure efforts carried him to the Olympic Games and on a tour of Europe. What has Pete to show for his fistic efforts? Little but a battered ear, a flock of medals, a scrapbook and his memories! The tin ear is the only badge of his profession that adorns his fea-tuies. He has managed to escape other markings. PURSES ARE SMALL I asked Pete yesterday how much money he had made out of the ring, and what, if anything, be had remaining, and was startled by his reply.

"The average person who has followed my career in the ring thinks I should be pretty well fixed, Pete said. "He remembers the fact that I have fought Al Brown, Al Singer. Carl Tremaine, Bushy Graham and many other stars and naturally comes to the conclusion that Pete Zivic and his wife and three children should be the possessor of a fat bank account Let me tell you the true story. 'For the 99 bouts I have fought for money. I have not received a total of $20,000.

Including my manager's share That means I not averaged ICoDtlnuel I.Ii NEW YORK, Dec. 30. (AP.) Recommendation for the abolishment of the point after touchdown was made to the National-Football Coaches Association today through the rules committee, headed by Glenn Thistlethvvaite, of Wisconsin. The rules committee reported that the point after touchdown, devised to prevent tie games, had not done that. An exhaustive studv of 1.487 games reported during the past season showed the average number of plays in a game, 160, scored only an average of 21 points, whereas the single point after touchdown is scored on one play, SCORING UNBALANCED The committee pointed out that this left a decided lack of balance in the scoring system, inasmuch as an average of seven plays were necessary to score a point by the touchdown route.

The recommendation of the rules committee probably will be acted upon by the delegates of the coaches association later today. The report of the rules committee furnished the high spot of the morning meeting of the coaches from all parts of the country. The point after touchdown has I this been subiect to considerable re-' vision recently by the National Rules Committee. This year, the rule was changed to permit the try for extra point from the two-yard line instead of the three-yard line hi an effort to bring about a greater diversity of play. FUMBLE RULE IGNORED No mention was made of the fumble rule, which has been the subject of considerable controversy among the coaches since the change this season which declared a fumbled pufit dead at the point of recovery.

Rather than do away with the new fumble rule, about which there has been so much debate, Hugo Bezdek, president of the coaches association, expiessed (Continued on Pose Twenir.V been off line and and tried pit the out He Not sits Army to for not Cagle the than last deny and a but down. ball PITT and bung West light chance and and the aie New Dr State: rPHOUGH Otto Von Porat has been reinstated in New York for a J- January fight, the effects of his fouling of Phil Scott In the second round several weeks ago are still In evidence in the boxing situation in the Empire State. The failure of the boxing powers to give the fans any protection for their money in the new rulings to cover fights that are ended by fouls is bringing protests from ring critics in New York as well as in Pennsylvania and Massachusetts. The idea of giving a cash customer something on the order of a baseball rain check, first advanced hereabouts by Jim McGirr, McKeesport promoter, also is meeting with favor in Gotham The veteran Joe Vila writes in the New York "Evening Sun: The suggestion that the state athletic commission adopt a rule that promoters attach stubs to their tickets entitling patrons to a re fund or admission to another set of bouts In the event of a farce such as that recentlv provided bv Phil Scott and Otto Von Porat Is an excellent one, and action should be taken at onee. Surely those who paid to see the Briton and the Norwegian are entitled to a return for their money and a rule should be made to proteet them against a recurrence of the bilking.

If the fighters knew they would have to fight over again before receiving any compensation the number of fouls would be reduced very quickly. IN THE New York World Ned Brown says that the fans should be considered first and that the foul-check idea is the best solution yet offered, and Ed Hughes, boxing expert of the Brooklyn Eagle, discusses the question at length as follows: The new foul rule hasn't much to recommend it. It looks like a case of treating the wrong (Continued on Pnxe Twenty.) meiaur Masueuar, Holnus, Buvd, Fatttr-son Spring Pittsburgh snare Farton, Manners, White Hridin Ma Nlnnon OfTli laN-Hull an. I Malllnnn Hrst period Amiru hum Holme tReiae) lr 7 Amtrirans, MuVUkh (Himes), Its 46 I malty Hrlden Sttond nod Pittsburgh Jarvis 9 0i, Ptttbtmtkh Bruhn 11 27 IN naltlps-Simpson (major), Brdke, Me-Vrt Briden Smith Third period American Bojd, 3 27. Penalties Lowrcy, Massecar.

DALLAS. Dec. 30. (AP.) Announcement that he had practically completed arrangements for the organization of a four-club professional Ice hockey league with teams in Dallas, Fort Worth, Tulsa and Oklahoma City, was made here yesterday by Beniamin Lemer, better known as Benny Leonard, retired undefeated lightweight boxing champion. The announcement followed three days of work here and In Fort Worth.

Leonard expects to have active charge of the Dallas club and an agent in charge of the Fort Worth member. He plans to build an Ice rink in Fort Worth and rent one here. Friends In Oklahoma City have assured him they will construct a rink there, Leonard said. All that remains to complete the circuit, he said, is for Tulsa already in the American Association Ice Hockey League to agree to place another team in his loop. Leonard intends to import competent coaches for his two Texas teams and to bring In promising young stars from independent and sehool championship clubs in Canada to foim the personnel of the teams.

He Is anxious to develop talent for the Pittsburgh team la the National League. will arrive In this country tomorrow for several bouts. Camera Is 6 feet 10 inches tall and weighs 285 pounds. Roehne to Quit Wheelchair Today SOUTH BEND, Dec. 30.

(INS Coach Knute Rockne, Notre Dome mentor, was to walk today for the first time since he was invalided three months ago by a leg Infection. Although improvement has been slow, his physicians say he will be ready for a trip south within two weeks. MAROONS TAKE LEAD DETROIT, Dec. 30. (AP.) The Monti eal Maroons took a one-sided game from the Detroit Cougars, by 6 to 2, here last night to go into the lead in the international division of the National Hockev League.

Rockburn, second string defense man lor the Cougars, was injured in a hard fall and was taken to a hospital after the game. It was feared Fata Twenty-ana, I Special Bed Built To Carry Camera NEW YORK, Dec. 30. (AP A special bed, elRht feet long, was built by the Cunard Line on its steamship Beiengana for the accommodation of Prlmo Camera, giant Venetian heavyweight, who AUTOS FOR UMPS AFRTNGKTN'LD Mo, Pm 30 (AP Western League umpires may travel from rltv to citv in automobiles next neason President I'inle Hear will ask rlub owners to purchase automobiles fnr official um, in an attempt tu cut down Iwgua xpansyi,.