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TJ with Doctor in the house IISSMlil i lillli LIGlOiM RE iiipipsij! BILL DUNFORD, Editor Saturday, September 14, 1974 dark the answer was not to point to a text be not afraid, God is with you" but rather to take the meaning of the Biblical words filtered through the parents' experience and then communicate it to the child. "Many parents of a past generation have stuffed doctrine down throats because it is objectively true: but if the child does not perceive the reality of those truths In the parent then all hell can break loose spiritually, morally and psychologically." "The most recent research into child behaviour at the secular level shows children pick up non-verbal signals quicker than the spoken word. If parents talk about God's love, and fail to communicate what that means in their lives the child wjll quickly relegate this to the unreal, and abandon it." Richards feels that Christian education is not the making of a product but an outgoing process of growing in grace and Christ-likeness, "We must not only explain the Biblical concept, what it means and how it applies to our children but also what it means in the reality of our own lives." "We wonder why children are turned off by the church. They are first turned off by us. In many cases as parents we are not living and acting out biblical truths as we know them'.

The result is a double standard. The child cannot always articulate the failure in his parents' declared intentions but turns away in disgust at what he sees." Richards illustrated by suggesting that for parents who have children afraid of the By DAVID VIRTUE There are medical doctors, animal doctors, witch doctors and now church doctors. These are men trained to inject local churches with spiritual vitamins. One such aspect of the body's activity in need of spiritual treatment is the Chris-tain education of children. For many churches, traditional Sunday schools have dropped off.

In others the methods could be out of date For a small but increasing number of churches however, Christian education takes place in families and cell groups rather than in large gatherings. Perhaps North America's most noted church health care specialist is Dr. Larry Rich' ards, author of some 25 books, a former professor of theology and now director of Renewal Research Association, Phoe- nix, Arizona. He is typical of a new gen- Tivo series announced at Cathedral Two series of lecture -discussions will be held in Christ Church Cathedral Wednesday at 7:30 pm. starting Oct.

2. Journey into Personhood is the general theme for the series with Rev Philip Thatcher. Rector of the Anglican parish in Deep Cove, he served as a team member for the ministry to industry. Alternate weeks Dr. Lloyd Gaston takes up Jesus in the Church's Gospels.

He is associate professor of New Testament at Vancouver School of Theology 36 eration of pastors who see the function and role in a new light. Speaking to more than 100 pastors, theologians and laymen at West Vancouver Baptist recently, Rjchards spelled out his formula for a healthy church, not in terms of theologically aware and educated teachers impressing Bible doctrine on children, but in terms of spiritually aware parents who live the reality of Christian doctrine in their own lives. "We must educate parents to communicate Christian truths to their children. Children will only believe the content of the Biblical stories they hear.when they see their parents relating those truths to their own lives." Richards impressed the need for parents' to listen to their children; expose and talk about their feelings to them, above all let children see both the external and internal reality of their Christian life. WEST POINT GREY BAPTIST CHURCH 4509 W.

11th Ave. at Sasamat Team Ministers: Paul Stevens 4 JOhn Hardy 1 1 a.m. "WHO YOU REALLY ARE" 7:30 p.m. Rev. Arthur Hadley twist Tithing, the old Christian appeal of giving 10 per cent of one's wealth to the church, is a matter between an individual and his conscience, with perhaps his pocketbook running interference.

But it is a personal thing, not subject to scrutiny. Yet in this modern age, with depreciating returns and people hoping for some sort of guarantee, this has to be a twist. An electrical worker in Miami, Hugh McNatt, sued his church, Allapattah Baptist, for $800. The amount was Ws ten per cent. The charge was that Pastor Donald Manuel had promised "blessings and awards" to a person who tithed.

Nothing, claimed McNatt, bad happened in the three years since his donation. However, looking back at it, he didn't lose out. A good Samaritan, Texas businessman, Alton Newell, heard the story and decided to repay the $800 for the church. "I sympathize with anyone who gives money to the church and sits back and expects God immediately to hand it back with interest, by some specific act," Newell said in a letter to lawyers who dropped the suit. McNatt, probably a bit embarrassed, didn't comment.

He didn't say where he was worshipping come Sundays, either. New organist Susan Driver, a graduate of Lord Byng and UBC, is the new organist and choir director at St. Philip's Anglican Church. Previously at Shaughnessy Heights United, Miss Driver studied piano with Phyliss Schuldt and Robert Rogers, organ with Gordon Atkinson, Hugh McLean and Patrick Wedd. She will direct both the children's and senior choirs.

CHRISTIAN CENTRE 8868128th $. SutTty 596-7414 Paster James A. Wott IMOcm. WJ.ERN BAXTER 7 p.m. Evening Service Evangelical Conf trtnea Tuai.

thru Than. 10 a.m., 2 p.m., 7:30 p.m. Speakers: Pastor Dick Ivan on tram Portion, Pastor Us Prltchard from New Westminster, Pastor W. i. Em Baxter from Surrey.

New moderator of the United Church Rev. Wilbur Howard was fitted with official stole of office at his own church. Chairman of council at Emmanuel United, Ottawa, handled the honors for the first black leader of the denomination. Hockin coming Second Church of Christ I Scientist Cor.MorineDr.429th5t. i.A iJ.

Vfc POSITIVE MEACHING (Corner of Cypress)' II llo.m.HOLYCOMMUNION- CHURCHSCH00L p.m.! Testimony Meeting Dr. Bob Taylor PRESBYTERIAN CHURCHES 1 KERRISDALE Church School 2733 W. 41st AVE. JSSSj rflDnnU Morning Worship 11:00 a.m. PRESBYTERIAN 7457 Bby.

STRENGTH "OUR HOPE Asjft tour Dwriifowit Ckwch l839T13flOW I "on, "MOODS" CHRIST CHURCH CATHEDRAL Georgia sod Borrard Herbert O'Driscell, Deas 8:00 q.m. Holy Euchoritt Preocher: The Dean Preacher: The Ry. Robert Pynn 7:30 p.m. Evenwnj Preacher: The Rer. Robert Pynn 1 Netoethrare 1 1 En.

Hoy 0. It Michael Sissm, J. Willai Duacaa, lav. Gordon 0. Potterm I tM-CkaRkScluoleTel i I GOOD LIFE: BIT GONE FOUEVER? 1 1 roodcataVll470oiciioi 7:00 p.m.

FIRST IMPRESSIONS OF THE CHRISTIAN 1 I FAITH IN COMMUNIST EUROPE I OrjmittoridMaic Director Dorryl Downtee ST. JAMES ANGLICAN Leaders will be Father Albert Zsigmond, Roman Catholic priest of St. Ignatius on the UBC campus and lecturer at Vancouver School of Theology; Dr. Albert i churchman and psychiatrist, and Dr. John Ross, Dean of St.

Andrew's Hall, UBC, and a lecturer in the faculty of science. Jewish High Holiday services open Tuesday, with Rosh Hashona, climaxing with Yom Kppur Sept. 26. All the storied holidays begin on the preceeding evenings at sundown. Parallel services again will be held at Congregation Beth Isreal and the Centre.

Rabbi Joel Rembaum, who has been in Isreal during the past year when he taught at Hebrew University, again will officiate at the Centre. Cantor there will be Lawrence Fine, new head of Ju-diac Studies, UBC. From Cambridge, who has TRINITY 14 8'30 a Low Mass 11 15 a.m. Solemn Mass and Sermon 9:30 aim! Family Mass 7:30 p.m. Solemn Evensong, Sermon Church School and Devotions.

Gordon Atkinson Organist I DIRECTORY OF FELLOWSHIP (REGULAR) BAPTIST CHURCHES GREATER VANCOUVER Sunday School. 9:45 a.m.; Services at 1 1 a.m., 7 p.m. VANCOUVER VANCOUVER RUTH MORTON BAPTIST CHURCH HJ'G, 791 Eost 27th Ave. at Prince Albert 3 1 7th Ave. George R.

Dowe D.D. Interim Pastor Guest Preociiers OAKRIDGE BAPTIST CHURCH FAITH BAPTIST CHURCH d261 St. 327-3500 2551 E. 49th ot Elliott St. Rev.

P. Tekhreeb 327-9635 Rev. D. Harris, 434-830B I I CATHOLICCHURCHES Presents Return Yisit of Well Known British Medium IRENE GRIFFEY INFORMATION FOR PRIVATE CONSULTATIONS Phone 939-8931 JUBILEE BIBLE COLLEGE Openlaf Classes Sept JOUi, 1974 Register now by 8764M8 or 8744901 tf writ above address Ito.UrocMterurt-PriDcipal "Bible Education Is Higher Education" GREATER ST. Mull 9a.m., 1 2:30 ond ST.MMY1 3399 Euclid, eH Joyce St.

435-961 1 :30, 10:30, ond ST.fATRICK'S I Eost 2th Ave 874-78 1 8 and Sot. 4:30 p.m. 5T. WOE'S SHRINE 3078 Renfrew Si. -434-6700' Sunday 8:00, 9:30 I 5p.m.

Permanent Noveno to St. Jude, Wed. 7:30 p.m. served as Cantor during the High Holidays in the eastern U.S. for several years.

On the second day of Rosh Hashona, as in the past, Rabbi Wilfred Solomon and Cantor Murray Nixon of Beth Israel will exchange pulpits with Rabbi Rembaum and Lawrence Fine. Rev. Mallnda Thome, known for her God's Rescue Mission and other community efforts in downtown Vancouver, will mark the 13th anniversary of work here this weekend. The anniversary service will be held in St. Giles Church at 3 p.m.

Sunday, the fellowship dinner at Dunbar Evangelical Lutheran, 7 p.m. tonight. Lilian Bible Intormotieri KARI Sjt. CANADIAN BRITISH ISRAEL 914 Dominion lldg. 207W.Haifinas 683-6339 rssterW.Oaytoo Gospel Church WELCOME, 7:00 PM- Enjoy The Revival Atmosphere EVANGELISTIC TAREDtJAri The local scene Dr.

Dr. Katherine Hockin, Di rector of the Ecumenical Institute, Toronto, will hold a "-workshop on the theme of -tive" Saturday, 28. This will be held from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. at the Fairview "Do c4 naMra if iht STtMtm Wine Peoole's ODDortunity in Ecumenical Mission (POEM) local Council of unnstian -Churches.

a Tiirmnr iiiiNiiiiMii uj Dr. Hockin teaches the field at Toronto School of Theology, is responsible for the orientation program for overseas missions. There will be a reception for Dr. Hockin on the Sunday, an ecumenical women's meeting Sept. 30.

Honorary presi- dent of the Student Christian Movement in Canada, she will be the guest speaker at the annual meeting of the local group at VST, Tuesday, Oct. 1. POEM, too, is sponsoring Ecumenical Thursday eve- nines for 10 weeks, starting Oct 3. Christ Evangelical Lutheran 1WiYykon-4-00 Pastor P. Rodont 9:45 o.m..

Sunday School All Ages 11:00 o.m. Public Worship FIRST LUTHERAN 2-d Poitor I. C. Gilbcrtson, 433-4020 9:30 o.m. Sunday School 11 o.m.

"FINDING A GOOD SEAT" CENTRE OF CHRISTIAN PHILOSOPHY KnowThyself At Robert Hoj9jf PASTORAL COUNSELLING Y.M.C.A. 933 lerrard Street SALVATION ARMY RICHMOND 128 Gilbert Rood 0tMnNo.2tNo.3ltoo!i) ENVOY 909 HA8KIRK 1 1 a.m. Mornino Service 7p.m EvetieelrsticMeetiiie 7:30 PR AYER MEETING CHRISTIAN AP0ST01K CHURCH 104 East 14th Ave. Vancouver, I.C A SOUL HEALING MESSAGE Original Christian Doctrlnf MMoritmcril e. Revival Mtiting Fifil Sunday of each, month 7:30 p.m.

LECTURES IN SUCCESSFUL LIVING WtdntidoyatlOOcin, st.marga"ret's"S CHURCH (Reformed Episcopal) 3198 Georgia St. 2554010 SUNDAY DIALOGUE CJOR 12? 10:30 toll a.m. SUNDAY SERVICES 10:00 a.m. 7:30 p.m. 1 WKKDAY SERVICES Wad lam.

All urvleai in St, Ivereerer's Church Pester Robert H. Birch Tap al mornino, service nallabU rraaoicnaraa.Coll2JS.IOIO I l-jSrf Bekrlssll lsesi liS? 85 E. 10th Ave. 876.9248 9:45 o.m. Sunday School Bible Study in Nehemiah 1 1 a.m.

Pastor Ministering 7 p.m. Evangelist DON LYNN MOE Just home from tour at Mexico Tuesday 7:30 p.m. Prayer Meeting Thursday 730 p.m. Cohesions Coming Sept. 22, 7 p.m.

"David Hathaway AN INVITATION TO ATTEND Special Gospel Meetings MR. ALBERT RAMSAY Prince Edward Island AND MR. HAROLD PAISLEY Vancouver Sunday, Sept. ISrhat 730 p.m. and Monday to FrWoy ot 8:00 pm.

at. A FAIRVIEW GOSPEL HALL 1666 WEST 10TH AVE. VANCOUVER, B.C. Chrht ld "I am com that thay might hanlHi" Gore Ave. and Cordova Rev.

J. G. Gardlser VANCOUVER OUR UOY OF SORROWS 555 S.SIocdn St. -253-67 It Sat. 7:00 p.m.

Suh. 8a.m.,'9a.m. OUR LADY Of PERPETUAL Hllf 2465Crown-224-4344 7: 15 p.m. Sot. (Anticipated Sun.) Sun.

8:30 1 1:00 a.m., 5pjn. ST. ANDREW'S 480 East 47th Weekdays -7 and 1 2 Noon DELTA-SURREY IMMACULATE CONCEPTION 88421 Petto 594-4107 Sot.7p.m.-Sun.8:30, 10, 11:30 WESLEY BURRARD1 eV NELSON CANADIAN MEMORIAL 15th 4 Butt ord An Associated For a Growing TWO MORNING SERVICES! 8:30 a.m. and ll.a.m. Message: "THE OPEN DOOR!" The Riches of Christ? "A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked." Psalm 37:16 Hard may be your lot here below, ye suffering saints of the most High as regards external matters; painful may be the exercises through which you almost daily pass, through the rebellion and desperate wickedness of your carnal mind; grievous temptations may be your continual portion; many a pricking thorn and sharp brier may lie in your path; and so rough and rugged may be the road, that at times you may 'feel yourself of all men to be the most miserable; and so indeed you would be but for the grace of God in your heart now and the glory prepared for you beyond the grave; Yet with it all, were your afflictions and sorrows a thousand times heavier, well may it be said of "Happy, thrice happy, art thou, Israel! Whom upon earth need you envy if you have the grace of God in your heart? With whom would you change, if ever the love of God has visited your soul? Look around you; fix your eyes upon the man or woman who seems surrounded with the greatest amount of earthly happiness, and then ask your own conscience, "Would I change with thee, thou butterfly of fashion, or with thee, thou gilded dragon-fly, that merely livest thy little day: sunning thyself for a few hours beneath the slimmer sun with all your entertainments and then sinking into the dark pit and dismal pool of destruction which awaits thee at evening-tide?" Then with all your-cares at home and abroad with all your woes and trials, sunk under which you feel yourself at times one of the most miserable beings that can crawl along in this vale of tears would you change with anybody, and lose your reward? however healthy, or rich, or favoured with the largest amount of family prosperity, if at the same time become destitute of the and long suffering mercies of God? rREE: UPON REQUEST List of Christian Books (or children and adults Write: VALLEY GOSPEL MISSION United Churches UNITED CHURCH DIRECTORY NORTH SHORE VANCOUVER WEST VANCOUVER UNITED CHALMERS, 121 A Heteleck CHURCH, 21 it sedEseatnelt Raa.

Aknnoer H. M. Metises' r1v" Elinor McLeoa Orgeniit-ClKir Director i.Mu.UrnMr FIRST UNITED CHURCH MORNING SERVICES Ot Carat Has M14MS Infonts ceree for in the nursery I S.Deld'e-lS2STarlerWar,W.V. WEST POINT GREY, 4S9IW.Hk' Ronold Smith, 922-3961 Re. G.W.

Payee, 22441M Synaoj Sanies: Ra. R. I. Tillpae :J0a.e.,0ast.lle.ai,Werilii HIOHUNDUNITIOCHURCH 1 32S5 Eaganmt ll4. N.Vaa.

90-6071 Mini.rtrs:R.,.limPj l.A M.Dhr.. SHAUGHNESSY HEIGHT) WnllGrenHlle SyWr9.30lllla.r. R.6aaraaSaarrr,Mi.lstar CKurd.Schaol9:J0a.m. Morning Worship 10:00 AM, lilWcaraertaeac service, AllWalcewe- VANCOUVER COLUNGWOOD UNITED CHURCH" -i Klnese et ieres R4. Minister: lav.

Alfred R. Lsi OHice434.791fMANSt437.l7S0: lev. GaaraeWhithrd 8794412 M.r.ina.,Sar,ic. 1 1:00 a.m. Service OurdiScM, Where the Holy Bible is WhollyTaught CLASS FOR EVERY AGE 10:55 a.m.

"THE CURE FOR MISERIES in a miserable situation" 6:45 p.m. "THE BENEFITS OF SALVATION" (Port en Forgiven Iniquity" Psleyaa Iroaotast ot 1JO e.nw-KARi-310 he 7 1:45 p.m. Pre Campbell. Reese Crusade with Harvey Lainsen 10th Ave. Ontario St.

Pastors: PaulW.Edwordion Roy Taylor 9:45 Bible School we now? ARE SUNDAY 11 AM one! 7 PM BERNICE GERARD -SUNDAY "ST, ANDREW'S "NOTHING ELSE BUT MIRACLES" Morning Worship broodcast over CJVB, 1470 on rh radio diol 7:30 p.m. "THE STORY OFGEORGE AND MABEL" Rwa ft is Shtswh wlB iy tMtti Hm SslWlCMa VINCE STONE recently ossociated as an ordained minister with a local "spiritualist" church will also speak. Vince Stone "Dim to a personal confrontation with Christ Jsus at Hit cron, I hav absolutely renounced any and all adherence to "splrltuollsm" In ony form and do earnestly ond humbty pray tor my "spiritualist" associates. "AAerclful Father, In Jesus name, may the Holy Spirit move In mighty conviction among them and bring them to the cress of our beloved Saviour Jesus, to Thy grace of forgiveness through Him, that they also may come to know joy beyond expression and peace that passes all understanding. Then may they be led Into the baptism of the Holy Spirit of Truth (who shall lead them Into all truth).

We thank Thee, we praise Thee, we glorify Jesus that it it done." 7:00 p.m. -THIS SUNDAY! Pastor Edwardson teaches with giant 30 ft. Vistarama Chart LEARN HOW YOU MAY OBTAIN YOUR COPY! Series Begins: 'Where are TUESDAY 8:00 PM and FRIDAY PM- DAVE JOHNSTON and 'THE SURGING REVIVAL" LWlTtJ UNITY OF VANCOUVER Oak St. 41st Ave. 02664211 SUNDAY, II a.m.

CHILDREN'S CHURCH, I lorn, Rfv.CT.SMIn "AINT IT GREAT!" Theology Science Technology Church Society Philosophy A PENETRATING LOOK AT INCREDIBLE PROPHECIES INVOLVING THIS GENERATION 10:30 o.m. THEOLOOY FOR CRISIS (''WsWteaJa when panic (ttv, Km WoHiifii)Oili OrftnlitiieMPMriRf FQASEQVIEVJ AGGCf.iDLY 7416 VICTORIA DRIVE, VANCOUVER ll.