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id At 43, change is norm for Ullman 20 CM CO a Kate Malgrew Saps Schnetzer switches shows though even her rare radiance couldn't keep it afloat Only Hollywood has proved resistant to her special presence, despite a big buildup in the early 1970's that merited her a cover story in Time magazine and such ripe prose as, "Liv: the name rhymes with believe, achieve or grieve. Also Eve." "I think they thought that because they had this artsy, Scandinavian actress in Hollywood, they would make artsy movies themselves," she says. "But sometimes it seems that if Hollywood likes what it gets, it doesn't always know how to use it I had played older women with Ingmar, terribly neurotic and sad. I'm sure they thought: 'We know better. We'll show her young and And then they come up with the musical remake of 'Lost Horizon'! A total flop.

But still they want to groom me to be' a star. So next they give me 'Forty even though I was 30 and Norwegian and the character was 40 and a New Yorker. After 'Lost half the people at Columbia had to go, it was such a disaster. And then after 'Forty the rest of the people in charge left. Really!" Kissinger's visit It was during her Hollywood heyday that Ullman also harvested a bumper crop of publicity for her occasional sorties with then-Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

When Kissinger slipped away from a state dinner for NATO delegates in Oslo in 1976 to pay her a two-hour visit, reporters clustered outside her apartment, and one newspaper speculated in a front-page story on the "Nocturnal Summit." "I couldn't believe how I was criticized for that," says Ullman. "My house was going to be burned! Here were journalists all over the world queuing up to get half an hour with this man, and I had this fantastic opportunity to see him, speak with him and everything. Why was my seeing him so different from anyone else? This is a man who has observed so many aspects of the world, and whether his views are your views or not, it's been a wonderful opportunity for me to learn something I otherwise wouldn't" Ullman's friendship with Kissinger, she suggests, may well have helped her break out of. the tight shell of acting. "At least I had to start thinking about the world so as not to make a fool of myself, although I wasn't supposed to say anything.

I was just supposed to keep my ears open. For some reason, Kissinger finds it fun to be with actors and actresses. But I must say, if he was romancing the others as little as he was with me She lets the sentence trail off. "That's part of this world I don't like at all. You are thrown to the media, and DeoDle make un the most daughter out of wedlock, the sometime date of Henry Kissinger, and not all that long ago the Great Scandinavian Hope of Hollywood.

If there was one moment when that changed, it came in February 1980. Along with such notables as Joan Baez, Elie Wiesel, Alexander Ginz-burg, and Winston Churchill III, Ullrnan marched to the border of Cambodia and Thailand, with medical supplies and personnel The event, organized by the IRC, was calculated to focus international attention on the plight of Cambodian refugees. It also profoundly affected Ullrnan, who found herself giving blood for the first time in her life in an army tent in a border camp, while journalists fought to take pictures of her looking wanly courageous. "Of course, I was aware that there were refugees and hungry people," she says calmly. "But they were numbers.

Never did I have the exact feeling that they were my mother, my sister, my grandmother so enormously close or that their destiny was so completely out of hand. The woman with a starving child is no different from me. It only happened that war came into her life. I also know now those people have so much to teach us about sharing. That is not dramatic or idealistic.

It happens to be the truth. We all are living like outcasts, looking for ourselves. We all want to be touched. I know I do." For the last two years, Ullman has juggled the demands of her career and motherhood (her daughter Linn is now 16) in order to globe-trot, often on a moment's notice, for UNICEF and IRC. "Travels have exorcised some of my most killing ghosts," she notes.

"I know that more and more my happiness has nothing to do with my belongings. In the past, I made some films for the wrong reason for the money or the excitement and I know that I cannot afford to do that anymore. My time is not unlimited. Sometimes I think that if everything went beautifully and I could manage, I would love the safety, the warmth, the comradeship of a family. I seem not to have managed that very well, although I have seldom lived alone.

And Linn and I we are a family. "I also know I am more alive when I am writing. After 'Ghosts, I have to sit down and try to finish a second book telling what I've seen and understood in my travels without it being 'Changing No. 2 I have only the title, which is If I could make a living out of writing, I think I would do that I think my life could have more impact if I were not pretending so much as I have in the past" "Pretending" is what Ullman has done best from her days as a resident ingenue, playing Anne Frank in a provincial repertory theater in Sweden, to the intense personal and professional collaboration with Bergman, which resulted in such memorable films as "Cries and Whispers," "Scenes From a Marriage," and "Autumn Sonata." She's even had a fling at a Broadway musical, Richard Rodgers's last show, "I Remember Mama," al small community in Norway with so many rules about what was right and what was wrong. The religion there is Lutheran, and the whole scene is guilt, guilt, guilt You never get away from it entirely.

"I was expected to be a nice girl, to get married and have children. And I have been divorced. I've lived outside of marriage with others. I had a child without being married. My becoming an actress was even considered such a scandal in my family that a large portion of them never invited me home again.

Each time, I got that pang of guilt for not being the nice little girl, for wanting something else. Until recently, I never realized that people actually use guilt as a way to get you to do something. That had never dawned on me before. It has made me a wonderful target for others. "But on the other hand, I also grew up at a time in society when women were supposed, suddenly, at 17 to be free, to seek what was right for themselves, to try to fulfill themselves.

But when I did that, I felt guilty, too, even though I truly believe in the freedom of the individual. Today, it has maybe gone the other way. We're told so much to be free. It's pushed upon us. We have so much choice that in the end it's no choice.

We are losing our sense of belonging. People don't believe in family. They don't believe in God. They don't believe in the future. That kind of freedom is also a ghost It is making us inhuman." She pauses, silhouetted by a renewed shaft of sunlight pouring in the window.

"Two years ago, I would not have talked like this. Until then, there was nothing else in my life except acting. I went from one job to another. I never had holidays. I knew only the people I met in first-class hotels through my work, and whenever I traveled to another country it was to go on location for a movie.

A lot of things I thought I needed then security, comfort, a career, especially a career I have found I could do wonderfully without. "Now I want to act only if it's real, important, if it can say something." Outposts of the planet What Ullrnan now calls "the most important part of my life" is her volunteer work, as an international spokeswoman for UNICEF and IRC (the International Rescue Committee). For the last two years, she has traveled to the outposts of the planet, observing human wretchedness and because even in wretchedness there can be nobility the worth of the human race. Her function, as she has come to see it, is to collect the stories of refugee women and starving children and then relate them as simply and directly as she can at fund-raisers, on television, to the newspapers wherever money for aid programs can be pried loose. For the public at large, Liv Ull-man has been one or more of the following: a gifted actress, the woman who bore Ingmar Bergman's Continued from Page D-9 of life.

Everything we believe so important our possessions, what society thinks of us, what the neighbors say these are just ghosts." "Ghosts" is a word that will cross Ullman's lips often this particular afternoon, even though sunshine is. spilling through the open windows, a breeze is lightly ruffling the curtains, and outside summer has put its best foot forward. It is, first of all, the title of the 101-year-old drama by Henrik Ibsen, in which Norway's most celebrated actress will soon be making an American stage appearance, her fifth. (After its five-week run at the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C., it will go on to a limited engagement in New York and then tour nationally.) But it is Ibsen's theme that we are all possessed by worn-out principles, "empty conventions, and crippling preju-dices that has struck a particularly resonant chord in Ullman's soul. In what was once considered one of the theater's most shocking plays, -she will be playing what is still considered one of the theater's most challenging roles the strong-minded Mrs.

Alving, who tries to lay to rest the poisonous memories of her philandering husband, only to discover they are alive and thriving in her syphilitic son: Viewed as one of the peaks of the Ibsen repertory, the way Lear and Lady Macbeth are the pinnacles in Shakespeare, the role is traditionally given to an actress in her sixties. "I was kind of surprised myself when they asked me," admits Ullrnan, who wears her 43 years as casually as the olive-drab jeans that are hugging her youthful figure. "But I think it is good for me. A challenge. After all, I could, have a son in his early twenties.

That doesn't worry me. Being Norwegian, I think I understand a lot about Mrs. Alving." Norwegian landscape Ullrnan has firsthand knowledge of the sort of narrow-minded Norwegian community her countryman was profiling in "Ghosts." She has experienced the gray Norwegian rain that banishes the sun from Mrs. Alving's sight. She knows the ambivalence of the Norwegian landscape the high mountains that summon man's purest aspirations and at the same time force him to double back on himself in claustrophobic valleys.

One of the triumphs of her career was her performance as Nora, the dutiful wife who, at the end of Ibsen's "A Doll's House," stalks out of a stifling marriage, slamming the door on convention. Ullrnan has slammed a few of those doors her-. self. Like the title of her best-selling autobiography a few years back, she is a fierce partisan of "Changing." "Ideas," she says, pouncing eagerly on the word, "ideas are the real ghosts of society the ideas we were brought up with and were expected to conform to. I grew up in a By Jon Michael Reed Within a week of leaving "One Life to Live," Stephen Schnetzer was grabbed by "Another World" to play Cass Winthrop, executive vice-president of Cory Publishing.

Schnetzer and "OLTL" came to a parting of the ways during contract renegotiation talks concerning his salary and role as former gardener Marcello Salta. Prior to "OLTL," the actor played Steve Olsen, June's rotten brother on "Days of Our Lives." During his three-year stint on "OLTL," Schnetzer divorced one actress wife to marry another, Nancy Snyder, who played his romantic interest, Katrina Karr. Miss Snyder remains on "OLTL" while husband Steve works for the NBC competition. The late, lamented Mary Ryan on "Ryan's Hope" is being "resurrected" for dream sequences with her still-alive and kicking husband, Jack. Kate Mulgrew, the incomparable original Mary, shot scenes last week on the set of her former series.

While visiting New York pals, Kate announced she's engaged to marry Robert Egan, an associate artistic director of the Seattle Repertory Theatre, where Kate has spent the last half year in acting residence. The couple will be married in Kate's hometown Roman Catho -What's Happening- lic church in Dubuque, Iowa, this week. Mary's dream sequences will air in early August. New to "RH" are Mary Keller as Amanda Kirkland and Robert Brown in the role of David Newman. Now that Bob Woods (Bo Ralston on "One Life to is a bachelor again, following the breakup of his marriage to Loyita Chapel (ex-Judy Chapman on "Young and he's been painting New York City red with a variety of ladies.

His "special" relationship with co-star Kristen Meadows (Mimi) has mellowed. Woods said, "We're emotionally connnected but romantically we just don't fit together. We still depend on each other for support, and that kind of friend is just as difficult to find as a lover." Who might Bobby's new love be? Well, he's had several dates with Sharon Gabet (Raven on "Edge of and finds her to be "one darn stimulatin' lady." Sharon herself has played the field since the breakup of her longtime romance with a former soap actor, Larry Joshua (the first Brian Emerson of "Search for Sharon's onscreen love partner and sometimes off-screen date, Larkin Malloy (Sky Whitney), is recovering from a near-fatal accident. play is a family expose. Watching Jenny put flowers on her baby's grave, Katrina realized Jenny knows about Mary.

Jenny refused to let Brad and Katrina take Mary on their honeymoon. Mimi told Asa she doesn't want him or his money but agreed to act in Marco's murder flick to get Asa's backing. Becky lamented she has no love fife. RYAN'S HOPE: Rae began a custody suit for Arley after viewing Kim's kidnap confession tape. Ox and Leopold made a bundle on Ox's race win.

Siobhan was upset that Johnny said Jane's more of a daughter to him than Siobhan. Joe and Siobhan planned a family. The rift in Johnny and Maeve's marriage widened. SEARCH FOR TOMORROW: Keith faced criminal charges after punching out a thug who put the make on Wendy. Stephanie warned Wendy that Keith's from the wrong side of the tracks.

Mei Sung reunited captives Aja, Travis and Liza. Stephanie agreed to finance Martin's sting but insisted she play in the poker game. TEXAS: A race car accidentally fel on Gregory. Ashley admitted Gregory's parentage after J. donated blood to save his son, Vicky hired producer Christine Rush to work on Rfckfs TV show.

Ruby was miffed that Alison is Mark's new assistant. Someone secretly shadowed RkL THE YOUNS AND THE BEST-LESS: Pressurd by Liz, broke off with Andy and confessed she loves a rich man. Luke worried that Victor's lavish gifts would sway one's plans to win' back Prenftss Enterprises. Ashley suspected fiere's a woman In John's ife. Lorie insisted to Jufia she's going through with her expose on Victor.

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