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THE VANCOUVER SUN, VANCOUVER, Ii. FRIDAY, OCTOBER 22, 1920 SPORT LATEST DICK SHOOTINC. OV I OWFR MAIMn COMIM KS iOOI DKM'lTi; Kh OF UY MISHIT NEWS SORTIT VAN'OOt'VKK BOARD OF TRADK START OCT TO liOCATK SITK WITH OBJECT OF HAVING GOLF COLIiSK SEATTLE BOXERS Relay Racing Becoming MUST NOT WEIGH I One of Leading Sports Ducks Are Plentiful Even Though Nimrods Have Shot All Week Coveted Game More Plentiful This Season Than Ever Before Week of Shooting Has Evidently Had Little Effect They're There in Flocks THE BALLPLAYER'S PILLOW On a bench at the ba.ll park a ball-player sat With his willow, his willow, his willow. He spat on his hands and ho went to the bat With his willow, his willow, his willow fractured the air with the force of hl blow. Then straight to his home he proceeded to go Where he shortly discovered a large roll of dough Neath his pillow.

Ins pillow, his pillow. Said I to that ball-player, "What do you bat With your willow, your willow, willow?" Said he, "I'm not hitting the sise of hat With my willow, my willow, my w.ilow." Then the hall coming over as big as a church, Three times at the pellet he made a wild luixh Then hurrlng home instituted a search Neath his pillow, his pillow, his pillow. Said I to that ball-player, "Fie upon you! And your willow, your wl low, your willow I wonder if that is the best you can do With your willow, your willow, your willow?" Said he with a grin as he looked at the score "I can get my eve on the pill any more But I'm batting GuOO behind a closed doo'r Wkh my pillow, my pillow, my pillow'" 1 r.v LL the hoys got ducks last week-end and those who have been out si nee, have been favored with similar fortunes, A Cinder" Track Pastime Is a Splendid Test of Team Speed, and Is Rapidly Increasing in Popularity Element of Risk Makes Shuttle Event a Thriller WHILE other branches of the track and field game have been marking time during the past few years, relay racing hsa been slowly but surely plodding along until it has finally stepped out into tho front ranks of popularity. Today it is one of the leading athletic competitions in Great Britain and the United States, and it threatens to take up a prominent place among other universal contests of team strength and ability. Just as soccer is a test of team footballing skill, as hockey is a test of team dash, agility and stamina, so relaying is a test of team speed.

Wherever II has been eoriring to Lisle Eraser's scouts. Not since the days when Vancouver was a hamlet has the shooting been better, they are ft round the fields and in the marshes by thousands. Last Saturday and Sunday one could almost feel the breeze from the flap ping winprs. While hundreds of the flat-bills ceased to exist, there is apparently as many to he had as before the season opened. Out on Lulu island and Sea Island as many birds have bfeii OVERJHE SCALE Fighters Who Try to Use Excess Poundage Being Checked Tho Seattle boxing commission Is making it tough for tho boys who disguise their weights and masquerade as lightweights or welter-weights when they ure in reality inemherH of the next clas-i above.

1 me Hauler, ehaiiman of the doesn't depend upon somebody else to alund to the "Weighing In" of buxer.s. doctor does It himself, iilul at ttie sum: time, the athlete iti given an examination to determine his funes for the coming mated. 'Wv are Insisting upon welterweights boxing In ttiat class and on lightweights sticking to the 130-pound division," explains Hanley. "In times past there have been boxer who have never been known to climb on the scales in presence of any officials. They went in weighing many pounds more than their opponents.

We have stopped this, 1 Hunk, and Urticans mom even matches." Hr. Hanley does not object to a few pounds difference in weight, but tiie omrnissii'ii draws the lino on I.i'i-pound bojs taking on tlio troduced, this spirited cinder-track 1 PETER MANNING WAS mmmmm brought down us in any u'v. wont to gather. fchooteis CULLY WILSON TO IN 2:08 TROT PLAY IN TORONTO OF G. V.

F. LEAGUE TORONTO, Oct. 21. 'Cully" Wilson, St. Patrick's star forward, yesterday signed a Canadian Hockey Association contract and will play in Toronto this winter.

"That is the eleventh professional hockey player who has already signed up with us this fall, said Percy yulnn. owner of the Shamroik franchise fn the new league and one of the chief mover In the new organization. event has scored a distinct success. Today there is hardly a sports meet either In Britain or tho States that does not include tiie relay in its bill of fare. Every International meet, college meet, school meet and playground meet everv one has its relay race.

The event is a splendid criterion of team running strength, and it has been adopted with as much success in minor meets as it has been adopted In the world's greatest athletic conflicts. Over In Kngland, the relay pastime has enjoyed a splendid season. In the spring a combined team of Oxford nd Cambridge runners invaded the United States and won handily the great relay race in the American university sports meet. A number of team races were staged between the S. and British athletes in the international sports in Kngland a few days after the Olympiad, and again the British runners showed themselves to be superior to their guests from across the water.

Relay races are grouped into two classes' "si raightaway" and "shuttle." The former is a test, pure and simple, of the running ability of a team. The latter contains an element of suspense that is entirely lacking from the other. One tiny slip on the part of any athlete, either when handing or receiving the handkerchief, may prove fatal to the chances of his team. A team must be as proficient in "grabbing" the flag as in running. It is this element that makes the shuttle event exciting, and what Is more enjoyable than a hard.

fast, thrilling chase down the Famed Gelding Again in Front at Grand Circuit Meeting ATLANTA, Oct. 21. Peter Manning, bay gelding, driven by Stokes, easily won the 2:08 class trot for a pur.se of the feature event of today's Grand Circuit races. His best time was 2:04 3-4 and for the last half of the third heat 59 1-4. The 2:07 pa'e was taken by Captain Mack, brqwn horse, piloted by Palin, who took the first two heats, but lost the third to Jay Brook, driv-In by Edman.

Best time, 1-2. There were only two starters in the trot open to two-year-olds, and Hogalus.i, driven by J. Thomas, easily took the J1300 pue. Best time 2:11 1-4. The 2:10 c.asa pace open to Southern horses proved one of the most closely contested matches of the season here and was won by George owned by William Gallagher of Selma, and piloted by Edman.

Best time 2:07 1-4. NORTH VANCOUVER Intermediate soccer playera in tho Greater Vancouver Football Association have been endowed with another cup for which they will battle for possession. The cup has been donated by the firm of Thomas and Mc-Bain and will be known as the "Semi-Ready" trophy. The draws will be scheduled soon, It was announced last nierht at a special meeting at tho Y. M.

C. A. The only Item ot business to come before the meeting, aslda from tho hearty acceptance of the donation, was the fixing of the age limit for intermediate players in the G.V.F.A., to 19; this rule, it was stated will be rigidly enforced. The regular meeting will be held next Wednesday night at the All club delegates are urged to be present. In connection with the "Semi-Ready" cup tie games, the donors have also offered a suit of clothes to the captain of the winning team.

B. OFT. PLANS FOR Tho ducks arc working ihe grain Jlclds. (lit into any Lull-! 11 good hub', put out a tew d.toys i.nj tno bird will do iho ret. Then It's up to the man behind the Westham lslan.i is reported to be as pood shooting ground as tliero is uround.

The high wind spoiled much vt the off-shore, shooting. Puck that dropped fi'W yards outside, were lost on account of the seas that were running. Tin Is the best place lor mallards, Mr. Frascr Bays. IMIKAS.Wrs l( I'O 11 1' I' Down Slough Koa.l from Ladder tin- iineasant.s and ducks are both worth going for.

This a.s good lihtaKair. t-tioollng as one. will get tills year. Itlver Road fields are full of train. Iiucka urn wot king this, but an soon us shooting start they fly into ths harvested fields where wo used to get them last jrar, on the bay sld of the main road to Ladner.

Human was sutm: hat. 01 a disappointment. Cerlainly tlio ducks me there. Did tiincis ray they nover fa many. The prairie la flooded nearly to Whatcom Koad and the, ilucks have ho much open water they Settle down everywhere, just out ot lange.

Tnoi-e who lake decoys Hnd build a good blind pet all the shooting they want, hut the men who depend upon tun ordinary chances arc cut of luck. On the Kllgard side of the lake, the ducks are coming in great flocks, but It. wants a boat and some Jccoys to get them. Some of the biggest bnga since the opening weri) got up near Abbots-ford. There Is water everywhere in the fields.

io down on the flats toward tho Fraser Hiver. MCOMKH IS POOH Nlcomen Island is a frost. High nvan had three ducks for the opening day. The shooting no better this week. The feeding grounds must have been destroyed by the floods.

Pitt Meadows is very good, but, like all other places, inc. shooting Is much better with decojg of some kind. There Is so murh open water thai the ducks f-ettb; anywhere unless there is inducement to bring them to any particular locution. NEW GOLF COURSE Tne Knights of Tythias trundlers turned out six strong teams at the Pender Alleys last evening, Vancouver Lodge No. 3A, Vancouver Lodge No.

3U, Mount Pleasant Lodge No. 11A, Mount Pleasant No. 11B, Rath-bone Lodge No. 7, and North Vancouver Lodge No. 40 being represented.

Vancouver No. 3U, Ma. Pleasant No. 11B and Vancouver No. 3A succeeded in winning from their opponents.

Murray and Menchions tied for high score, 177, and Murray had high aggregate, 498. Following are the scores: Mount Pleasant No. 11B Havls 142 113 106 361 "airon 140 130 173 445 Townley 166 168 148 472 Calder 113 ill 157 411 Lon 130 140 142 412 Total 681 692 728 2101 Rathbone No. 7 Olds 147 108 155 410 Bourdon 136 102 118 356 lvewis 84 93 73 250 Tliurouglig'ood 126 S3 137 356 Williamson 133 141 171 445 Total 626 537 654 1817 Mount Pleasant No. 11 A Murray 177 151 170 498 Menchions 114 177 146 437 Cameron 156 160 181 477 Giffin 106 133 121 360 le Bou 115 16 HJ 470 Total 698 777 767 2242 Vancouver No.

3B Smith 157 129 146 432 Lothian 132 178 l33 413 L. Behnsen 157 134 143 434 McMillan 115 171 149 465 Pearson 152 159 171 482 Total 743 771 742 2256 Vancouver No. 3A F. Behnsen 146 133 135 414 132 124 128 384 Janes 94 129 128 351 Hunter 93 134 151 378 O. Behnsen 133 107 168 408 Total 598 627 710 1935 North Vancouver No.

40 Sommerville 143 110 163 406 Wheeler 120 106 133 359 Bowden 137 115 157 409 Badger 146 119 111 376 Graves 108 137 134 379 Total 654 587 68S 1929 Lisle Frascr says the fishing reports remind ono of tho days of real sport. Vedder P.lver Is dropping and tho Collars are taking the Siwash spoon in great style. They put up dome erap, too. Little Sumas Is very good. Take the gun along and there is a good chance to pick up a duck or two during the day.

erjj' ntme and Nlkornekl are very high, but still fishing will fill a a creel, Sa.mon Klver Is very good. Use a small spinner, such as a laviere. Coo, nit lam Is very good. The big run is well up stream as this is written, and they aro bltin'. Lillooet is very good.

The Kanaka Creek has been giving very good sport for tlio past few eeks. It was high, but is better week. Stave Jliver Is not too high to fish and the big one3 are running. Fish it aimost anywhere. Norm Snore streams are in excellent fishing trim.

Cohoes are biting well. I'ltt Klver Is good. CHARLIE UKSILA BACK FROM THE ANTIPODES NOKTII VANCOl'VKn. Oct. 21.

The queKtion of th stublUhtnent of a municipal tfIf courae on the North Shore wan discussed at u. meeting ot the Board of Tra-le held in the City Hull hist night, with the result that a conitniltt'M wan appointed tu locate suitable alien for the proponed linkfl. It is MkMy that the thrrte councils on the North'tthure will be asked for assistance in the establishment of the course. The moctins luHt ntht was enthufiaHttc over th pruiwiHal to establish links in North Vancouver. PETE MULDOON PULLS HIS FREIGHT ACROSS THE WAY TO SEATTLE RiCKARD HAS BOUT OLD COUNTRY FOOTBALL Charlie Vksila, formerly of the Portland and Vancouver hockey clubs, has just returned from Australia where he has been doing fancy skating turns in Sydney and Melbourne.

Charlie, who established quito a reputation here as a figure skater, was accompanied by his sister while in Australia. She returned with him but continued on her way to New York. Cksila will remain here for some time. He is through with the hockey game, however, and will devote his time to fans-y skating. NEW YORK.

Oct. Manager Tex Hickard of tho Madison Square Gar den Sporting Club, has finally com CORRESPONDENCE Pete Muldoon, lacrosse and hockey manager extraordinary, has departed from our midst and will for the next several months receive his mall at the" Arena, Seattle. Muldoon left on last night's boat for tho Sound City. When asked regarding the prospects for the coming hookey season, Pete smiled and suggested that he had every intention of repeating on his victorious season of 1919-20. The Seattle, rink is scheduled to open during the first week in November but there will be no hockey played until after Christmas.

Frank Patrick also left for Seattle last night, although his trip is unofficial. He will be back tomorrow morning. pleted all arrangements for the fifteen-round battle to a decision between Willie Jackson and llddie Fitz-simmons, the. popular local lightweights. They will clash at the Garden on Oct.

29, weight to bo 135 Sporting Editor, Daily Sun: Dear LONDON, Oct. 111. Results of English League association football games todar were: TIIIHD imiMON. Swindon, Newport. 0.

Kxeter City, South Hend, 0. llesults of rugby gamm playud todav were; nttiiiv rsio cot'XTY match. Yorkshire, 18; Lancashire, 3. Sir; Will you kindly allow space tor the following in your sport It is wit.t sincere r.re that I learn split i3 a tlm atoning the GOI.F TOMORROW, The monthly competition of the Vancouver Golf Club, which was postponed from September, will be held over the club course at Bur-qultlam tomorrow, it was announced yesterday afternoon. pounds, weigh in at 9 p.m.

on the night of the contest. Dan Morgan, manager of Fitzsimmons, and Frank Bagley, manager ot Jackson, will post a forfeit of $2,500 as a guarantee that their men will make the required weight. Pheasant shooting Is not very good, liill West Is about tho only man who repol is the, limit two days running. He got these near 1-adner. This side of Hi'! I'nt from the old shipyard up to Mlnnekada ranch Is fair pheasant land.

The birds aro a little wild but with a good dog and a fair ehot with the gun. the sport will be all right. Generally Bpeaklng, the pheasants are on high ground, that hill back of Cloverdale and the fields mound Murray ville. At that, a duck ranks of amateur football in this Province. Dida we have enough of that stuff last season? It appears to mu that an amateur this count-y.

cr shoulJ ve ay hunter at Cloverdale was wading across a flooded oat field and a big long tail flew off a stook. Serpentine Flats, back of Clover-dale, are full of ducks. Province, j3 a different being to what he I in the Old Land. Hut, neverthe- ess, "when in Home, do an the Rinn JOE FOR "EE-YAir ITHACA. X.

Oct. 21. Hughte Jennings, former manager of the Detroit American League baseball club, may be chosen as Cornell University husehall coach at a meeting of the alumni baseball association here ans do," so as an amateur lias a dif FOR SOCCER BALLOTS ORASS HOCKF.Y PRACTICE. The Shamrock Grass Hockey Club will held a practice at Brockton Point tomorrow at 2:30. Every member is requested to turn out as the "Shams" will work out with members ot the Vancouver team.

ferent status here than he has in the Old Country, then why not be ruled by the governing body. But the whole trouble is that The Marpole team for game at Clark's Park will be: Laidler, Smith, Main, Markham, Symes, Harris, Clark, Henderson, Marks, Stewart and How-den; reserves, Andrews and Mclvor. everybody knows better than the other fellow and It appeals to me Those Intending to compete in this week's Sun Football Competition arc that almost every club has a set of rules of it own. I am an old follower of the game and havo also played a good bit and Inert fore am reminded that all ballots must be turned In by 12 o'clock tonight. Ballots received after that hour will not be accepted unless sent by mail, in The Riverview team will be picked from: U.

Brown, Whltworth, New, Lipp, Sutherland, Wright, Cook, Waytes, Furniss, P. Brown, Robson and Orr. quite anxious to sec football played as it should be played. At present which case they must bear Friday postmark. I am confined to hospital on account The prizes this week are well worth of an accident some time ago, and competing for and It is anticipated Sun Football Competition $405.00 in Prizes This Week 1st Prize $200.00 2nd Prize $100.00 21 Prizes of $5 Each 1 The competitor will fill In the coupon below, striking out the team he er she thinks will lose, and striking out both teams wh.ra a draw Is anticipated.

3. Twenty-five cents must accompany each entry. One person is at liberty to send In as many entries as he wishes, but each must be In the form of a coupon taken from THIS SUN and accompanied by twenty-five of wi" bo Published weekly and the winners will be announced every Wednesday The amount of the prizes each week will depend upon the number of entries received during the week previous. All monies received will be lined as prizes 4. in case the first prine is decided nmonir two or more prize-winners, The Sun may rearrange the prises so that the first prize may continue to -rAfi in value the second nrize.

haven had a chance to see a that more entries win te received than in any previous week. game this season. It 18 very ais- neartenlne to in bed and see crit The Ml. Pleasant team will be picked from: Roots, Howe, Brad-shaw. Roots, Kennedy, Lindsay, Duncan, Young, Sloan, Hendry, Stone-house, Lister, Ferguson, Cooper an! Dooley.

icism of players and official. If Following Is the lineup of the everybody would leave that to the Royal Bank intermediates who will governing body and get out and boost the game instead of finding The Colllngwood seniors will be se fault, the Kame would soon raacn battle against tho North Vancouver boya at Robson Park: Howlett, Laughton, Kennedy, Maitland, Stewart, McDonald, McLeod, Kamp, lected from: K. Sager, Reid, J. Ver-non, F. Sager, Hearndon, Duncan.

Atkinson, D. Grimston. Crooks. Walker. Murle, Crosby and Crosby.

T. Brown. Blair, Ferguson, Jones, Mc- intosn and Preston. Hamilton has secured MeDoug.il!, new centre forward from Sheffield. j.

Competitors should write their names and addresses clearly and may iirnn thnir letters into the iiic bo on the counter In the business office of The Foresters team to play Rangers at Henry Hudson School the same high standard as has In the liritlsh Isles. I closing I should like to say that I am pleased to notice that The Sun In the first local publication to run the Old Country league tables weekly. This. I think. Is a great innovation to Its sporting columns and is a great help to followers of the game.

Trusting that all the troubles of last year will be avoided and sport promoted instead ot held back, I am yours in sport, W. F. UKKD. Bolton Wanderers already have The Sun, or mall them addressed to Editor, Football Competition. Vancouver two players on the sick and Injured 1st.

win De picked from: Austin. James, Miller, Harvey, Pearson. Miller. Wilson, Ros. Heath, Gabriel, Reid, Ken-dall and Ruse.

IiMily Sun. Vancouver, li. or leave in doi locaieu ai e-- -oiuiiiui aireei, New Westminster. 6. The amount paid by each person shall remain the property of such person until distribution as part or tne prizes, ana any person may his or her detioslt un to the date of distribution, but not afterward The Imps Vets will be picked from: liy "distribution, of prizes" is meant such tunc as results of Karnes are Hampton, McGilllvray.

Balla. Harold V. Pratt I A Great Clean-up of Mens Overcoats $40, $45 and $50 dOQ QO Values variety in single and double-breasted styles, Ulsters, Slip-ons, Chesterfield and form-fitting and regular models; browns, greys, blues, greens, plain colors and under-checks and plaids. See Them Today 546 GRANVILLE STREET Joinrte, Miller, Walton. Thorburn known.

7. Abandoned (fames or games Incorrectly scheduled are ruled out of the rnmm.1 1 1 Inn. Vince, J. Ma-tin, Anderson and Dal- of Canada Limited gieisn. s.Hesults of competition will be published every Wednesday morning Railway Vancouver, B.

Telephone Seymour 158a rid checks to successful competitors mailed on mat date. 9. All selections must be received In The Sun office not later than 1: o'clock mifloiclit Fridav. The O. A.

U. V. team will be: Webb, LeClerq, Adcock. Langstaff, Lee. Vincent.

Collum. James, Wilron. Kmery, Enquiries Solicited Shipping Point, Calgary. 10 Coupons for the'Faturday's Ramea will be published In The Sun commencing with the Sunday pnoi to date ot games and will appear In each fciicecedinu lsptm until date of eame. and Disney; reserves, estwood, Bur ton and Simpson.

II. Itesults as announced by cable on Saturday are to be regarded as if linal and prizes will be awarued according to such announcement. From the following will be picked tne team to represent the Elks Athletic Park at 2 15: Turner. Grad-well. Gow, Teed.

Williams, Gardiner, Brown. P.unrie. Eliis. Sinclair, Cooke. FORM OK COi rON I hereby agree irt the conditions laid down In connection with the competition hy TIIK YANCub'VEH SUN and ugrce to abide by any decision given by them.

BOWL! AT THE Pender Alleys I'ndrr Dominion Hall. Kitchner and Drumnrbnd. The B. C. K.

team will be se. Kama Cap Sale lecte.l from the following: McFrrde. Jewitt. Goldfinch, Gath, Klllott, Web. st or.

Gagon, McNair. Rankin. McColm, Badminton, Riley and Pinkerton. dlee- Games to be played on Saturday. October 23.

on the grounds of the first mentioned Club iu Inch intu.rs are to be selected. nimuuuuiniiniuii! Following are the I. L. A. players enoen to meet ew Westminster in Men! We're clearing up the odd lines of EKOLISH 1.EAGTJB, TBXkO 9ITISIOH the first round of the Imperial Cup ingush it nave.

rxmsT SIVISIOH -it aloofly square, Saturday afternoon Rob'nson. Hargreaves. Carney Manchester C. Plackburn Rovers vs Caps. Butciiart.

Roberts. Graham. Adrian 5195 Shearer. Kai-ldinr. Baker.

Kerr: re 1 serves. Bowers and Blackman. Play ers w-ill leave Mainland cigar store at clock. Bristol Rovers vs. Norwich C.

Luton Town vs. Brighton Hove. Newport vs. Portsmouth. Reading is.

Crystal Palace. Southampton vs. Brentford. SCOTTISH LEAGUE Albion vs. Ayr United.

Celtic s. Ranger. Kilmarnock MotherwelL St Mirrent vs. Cljdebank. Third Lanark vs.

Clyde. Ail of the Kitsils.no Rang liradford C. vs. Sunderland. helsea vs Oldl.ain Athletic.

is. West Urotnwich Newcastle vs. Bradford. ritousa iiAoot, secowo division vs. Notts Foreyt.

Clapton Orient vs. City. Wednesday vs. Birmingham, r'outb Shields vs. Fort Vale.

Stockport vs lUriisley ers are renue-Mtd to be at the Drill Hall. Bcmy Street, tomorrow afler- -oon at 3 o'clock. here isn a poor one in the lot although no one kind in a full run of sizes, lint they're $3.50, HK and $4.50 caps and all at one price. rirk yoar If tkc tr ttaity. la Ut The following players will represent th Collingwood Intermediates in their game with St.

Saviours at 'arks FNrk on Saturdav at 2 More Tobacco for the Money Beck Johnson. Tav'or. Love. tove.y. Slincerland.

Lundie. Heat Forman. John T. Reed Green. Kwen.

MeXrthur and Jake Nestman. The abovo are asked to meet at Carralt and H.tstings Streets at 1 o'c ott s.iaro. Hi vv. V. A fooiha.i p'aver are reriiie-ted te meet at the club rooms Richardson Potts HIT 04KKI04T4 117 GRANVILLE at 2:39 Suturdav Afternoon, prepara torr to the tame with the C.

team. Following are the players 'rem whom t'i I neuo 1 be dn Week End Holidays aiv popular at Rainbow Lodge Tii cool, crisp air jtt this altitude 1 is a tie-lichtt'ul chanjre for the coast Make Up a Party Green'seh. Marshall, llj'n Holt Mole. Burnett. Pilfeirta: JIT ARGUE! ton.

Cox, Howard. Janefl, Andrev. Lot.gley, Diebel. Suth Hill A. N.

turn that wi', meet Varsity at Powell Ptref to. morrow afternoon are requested to Canada's best buy-the ECONOMY Package be at grounds not later trsn 1:4 p. m. Following tne of fN frrm which tne tesm be jioii? your irioniN. 1 iione drawn: lv.

Kiniston. Fnefer. Tw RIIIKMh WI.MLKV 41 111 Returned Soldiers Available for All Classes of Work. 3,. iih'ir-.

Coode, Blarkeft. DpvKir: reserves F.spiin. Drummord. Up office or write rniLii. i-vr.

Alt Lake, B. C. uhart. I1 iiinMinmmnuinifeapJg hJ justified its pro- a ecu.