New-York Tribune from New York, New York • 2

MR. LEXOW GETS ANGRY. THE LUNG EXPLANATIONS OF C. FLINT IRRITATE HIM. LITTLE PERTINUXT INFORMATION KXTlVUTliU ABOTT THE MVUR TR CST.

NT THE WIT? NESS DISCOURSES ON THE BENEFITS C. i Ml! I THE A T-MJST LNO.riRY HBrtlN The LsftalatlVg Committee that probing Into tho mysteries and workings Of trusts completed the seventh dny of labors yesterday. It tan not bS Mid. however, that Its investigations yes? terday added much to the knowledge it had al? ready acquired In the course ol the previous sittings. The whole of tho norning session was given over to the continued examination of the Rubber Trust, which was represented Ly charles R.

Flint. Tho commute- had discovered on the preceding day that Mr. Flint waa no more satis? factory a witness than Mr. Searles. Both have the fa.

ulty mi witness stand of saying much, but little, only the characteristic ls perhaps in a higher state of development in Mr. Flint. With his lonp explanattons, his continu? ous qualifications of almost every answer gave yesterday, and his neatly turned evasions lo other questions. Mr. Flint more than ora the usually polite Senator from Nyaek into a high state of irritation.

Although the treasurer, nnd hy many thought to be the real head of the trust, it was surprising what little Mr. Flint knew of tho affairs of the company In which he holds so high an ofliclal place. The committee was in possession of Informa? tion showing that the pri CO of rubber shoes and clothing had been greatly Increased since th" formation of the trust; that the latter had bought factories for which it had use and closed them down, and that it had throws hun? dreds of men out of employment; hut when the committee sought to condini these facts throuch Mr. Flint- it was unable to do aa He fore he left tho the members of the mittee Invited his opinion upon the advantages of trusts, and In pursuance of their previous policy gave him the opportunity ot delivering a long homily upon tho advantages and bene that trusts Confer upon the consumers of their products and their employes. In afternoon the Soda Trust was Investl- gated, and it was Ai monstrated that the Church Dwight impany had practicslly monop? oly of sal- ratus trade la this Btate.

Through SjgrOsmsntS With nine-tenths of tho wholesale grocers of the State, who had its factors. the company, it was shown, had fixed the price of the Oonmoditp to the retail trade Et cents per pound, when, according to tho evidence of Charles F. Pope, of the Arm i J. Monroe Taylor, ll could profitably be lld for four cents a pound THE DETAILS OF THE TRANSFER! TUE HMM INS RBI-OUT PAID TO MK IN UOHT OH THK EOSIXE88, Cbarlee R. Flint was recalled to the stand when the committee Its yesterday morning Into the affairs of the Rubber Trust He fere adjournment on the previous day, he had promised BenSMr Lexow to produce the certificate of the organization of ilie States Rubber Company, and to he prepsred with data, to f.irnlsii tia- tbe dste pises of organization of 'lifT'rcnt compiiucs comprised In the Ruhl.ir Tl also of their respect iv- orig! apitallSSlUMM.

He out these Ot I SS follow: andes cami any, M09.SM Gooilxa.it- tall Rubber Shoo company, tuch, lMf, Msyer Rubber Company, New-Brunssrich, N. ism, a New-Jersey Rubber Shoe Company, New-Bruns wl k. x. New-Brunswick Rubber company, wick, X. .1 American Rubber Company.

Cambridgcport, un, Boston Rubber Company, Booton and Chelsea, UM, Ly. Rubber Company ftnformarlon not ob tainedi. organised In Pennsylvania about ten years ace; ipltal 11 Rubber Manufacturers' Pelting Company, Con? necticut, ISM, M0O.O0O, me, thousand live hundred anS odd snares of this stock Included in tho Sim? mons omi iltti 1 rei ommendatlon, ''Kow, 1 the acquisition of al! tlcse companies, hoxv much 1 I stock of thc I'nlted Rub? ber Trust was Issued?" Inquired Benator Lexow. "In round flgures, 1 Mr. Flint "How much the Issued for pur? chase of the Roxton Rubber I "There was no subdivision of ihe The Xralssra recommended a lump sum for the p-ir of all tnese properties." "But In realising tbe amount of thc capital stock there ittii.t have heen some appraisement of the distinctive value of each company.

Can you not Inform the committee what was the appraisement on the Boston company?" "I cannot; that appraisement was made by the Simmons committee. 1 have never had aTesa to that Information. The data not In the posses? sion of thu United States Rubber Company." "Do you mian to say that you. as treasurer of the company, have no means of telling how much stock was to sa of these companies?" "I do. I was not then the treasurer of the com? pany, and was not even member of the Hoard of Directors." "How were shares distributed? Did the companies syndicate to receive them in a lump sum?" was no syndicate, but a banking house was in a position to offer to the I'niteii States Rubber Company nil the properties referred to in a lump.

Tho company's for the purchase of these propel tics tx as handed to tho hankers, nnd by them paid over to the sub-companies." were you not the leader that produced thia "I would not like to claim that dlsttneiion. Mr. Chairman." "But. putting aside all modesty, was It not through your Instrutmntality the States Rubber Company was organized?" "I w.is active in organizing thc- company." "Were you not in touch with counsel who drfw tip the rules df raf organization?" Mr." "Wire tiie conferences that led vp to tiie organi? sation not held in your office?" "Xo. h's; tiny were i.ot.

They were held In the of Davies, Stone Auerbach," HR KKI'T HIMSELF INFORMED. Mr. Film admitted that ho had kept If formed In "a Besets! way" as to what was going on. and anticipated becoming ar. of the cor? poration, "Was the capital stock.

ln payment of thes? Issued by you as treasurer?" "I don't tliink it xxa; "Do you remembar whither you signed certifi? cates of stock amounting to "I don't remember that 1 did." "Do you remember that you did r.ot?" "I feel satisfied that I did not." The witness then explained that he waa not treasurer of the company at the time of Its Incor? poration. was treasurer then?" "John I'. Townsend, of the Hnhkerbockcr Trust Company." "How was it that Mr. Townsend immediately ceased to be treasurer after the Issue cf stock and you succeeded him? "By the action of the Board of Directors In reply to snottier question, the wltneag said that every precaution had been taken to make sure that the was Issued legally. He that he had made no personal examinion as to tho Hoods Are purely vegetable, con- no drastic drugs, and I are easy to mk-, to I I I operate.

Rouse the liver, stimulate the stomach, cure conet.patton. Ths only Pills to taltojwlth Hood's Sarsaparilla. The New SMALL SIZE of CASHMERE BOUQUET TOILET SOAP is within everybody's means. Ask for lt. value of the properties for which thc stock certifi? cates srere Issued.

"Vou mean to say Hint you depended on coun? "Vis. slr; I on the superior wisdom of the best counsel we could get. you mean to be understood ss inp: that tu treasurer of the company, yon Revet made ef? fort to discover whether a proper price lind l-? paid for properties, and for whlcb lin- I was Issued?" "The figures were not accessible to me ap? praising committee xx ere men of higher stallJ Ing. Snd 1 had the utmost reliance on their report "Did you not think it a suspicious thing Hint the figures were not accessible to "No. sir.

As I said before. I relied on the com? mittee who made the report." Apparently Senator Lexow was anxious lo ob? tain this report, or nt some to Its contents, showing the bssls upon which the committee had arrived al thc conclusion that tbs properties were worth of the trust's stock. Finding himself, however, frustrated every line of questioning he brought forward, he began to get considerably nettled, and ihe tone of store cf the Inquiries he sddressed to Mr. Flint seemed somewbsl brusque. Nor was ibo irrita? tion he was feeling lessened in aux degrei- by Ihe long explsnstiona which Mr.

Fllnl added to mas: of his replies When Mr. I.exow pul it pointedly to wit? ness whether bo wished commit to believe that the members of the Simmons committee still had possession of the report they had made to the trust. Mr. Flint replied thal he did not: thai report was in the archives Of the company al New-Brunswick. He would not for soma time ed mit that the tepon was nader ins control aa Ihe treasurer of tha company, but al length a great deal of fencing he consented to say thsl he might g.t set-ess lo the report if he were accom? panied by another oflVcer of the company.

The report, he said, was depositeo in safe deposit vaults To Judge from other replies bj Mr. Flint, it is lik.iy ro remain lhere despite Mr. Lexow'a wish for production. Afb becoming convinced apparently that he could learn nothing from Mr. Flint as to thc report and thc recom mendal lons of the Blmmona committee, and after repeatedly rebuking the witness for his irrelevant presiding Senator asked: "How mach money were you paid for your com? pany?" "i never owned a company," replied Mr.

Flint. HIS INTEREST IN A COMPANY. "W.re you never interested in a "I vxas ia; erected in tie Lyc-uning Rubber Com pany to the extent of perhapa one-half of 1 pei cent iii'' capltallsitlon." "Don't you knoxv what you got for it?" "1 ilo not. 1 find out for you." "lt ha? taken abeu; fifteen minite" to ascertain that you interested in any nf the companh tint w.t.. taken Into the States Rubber Com? pany.

At fust y.u di niel emphatically that you were Interested. Now yon say you were, fan you not f.iy whal you for your stock?" Mr, Lexow vxith some asperity. "I can asoTtain. sit." "ls ll tiae thal the United States Rubber Company paid the hankers a commission of per cent aeKlng the atock of the vsrioua companies0" "Lei me explain, Mr. Chairman." "Answer yes or no," almost shouted Mr.

Lexow, pounding the desk In from him. "Mr. Chairman, you ask the question wring. They did nol pay that amount." "Hid tiny pay the brokers anything?" "Mr. Chslrmsn, I want to snswer fairly.

Th pal I thc bankers something, but I don': know what 1 a.in ascertain, though." "Was the sum "Tea, I think that was thc amount." "Was it paid in cash?" "No. sir; In stock." "Who protected tbe interests of United Btatea Rubber Company In lhal transaction?" "Mt. Blmmona and the Simmons committee." "Will you produce the data in regard to that trans? action afb re. "1 will td. iv or fo do so." "We mUSI l.axe these data." "Well, Mr.

Chairman, I sm willing to the committee all the Information can. 1 had been a ixl-, i that this a New-Jersey corporation. 1 need not testify herc, yet I here and answered your questions." "Now, Mt Flint, we don't want to be too severe in regard to this matter; bul We think th.it the question of capitalisation is roast important, and whether your company i-: a New-Jersey company or a New Tork company, w- mart have the Information ive said Senator Lexow. "I xviii try lo get it for you. Mr.

Chairman." Tin- witness said there were thirty employes In the office in Reade-sl, and Ave In the New-Brunssrick ofllce. 'The beekeepers attend to the affairs of the United States Rubber ompsny and the various companies composing it?" "Xo; tia- companies are run ns Independent or? ganizations and the I'nlted States Rubber Company has the sami position as ls occupied by a enmmissi agent toward an ordinary manufacturer, This necessitates the employment of a largo number of bookkeepers." MR. LEXOW TIMI'S To HIS FEET. Mr. I.exow next asked the witness If he laid any knowledge of the agreement entered into by ibo trust xx ith agents or factors.

Again, without answering directly. Mr. Flint wanted to give tho committee mote exp la nations, which Invariably wandered away from tho polr.t Mr. Lexow Wished to establish. Thoroughly angry, Mr.

Lexow Jumped to his feet, and, waving a document In front of Mr. Flint, shouted: "Have you, or have you not, any knowledge of this agreement?" "Not In detail." impcm answered the wit ne-s. "Very well; lt go at that," exclaim, Mr. Lexow, despairingly, you keep yourself posted In the working of the different manul t. riis of the trust?" not" "Do yon know lhal a year after the absorption some of the companli i eli ae down for nine months, an.l the year alter for seven months, with a view to restricting the output0" do not." "Old not Ihe fsctory down in the of winter in throwing ali its ploaes ont if work, when it had sn offer tract to ptjkIii a what is kia.wu aa third-rate goods which would have kept the factory open all the winter?" "I don't kim "Don't you knew al this very time you pur? th-- roi-hest'-r Rubber Compi ny, and closed lt down also?" "1 don't know, but I will explain that our ness ls of nich i nature that wo cannot possibly iwmsln open nil the yesr.

our business i- s. son's bUstaM sa" "NOW, ls il not fact that you Increased tue pelee of rubber shoes and bcota irotn to lo per ceni after tho consolidation?" "I don't know; but I do know we have MO.MOdif? ferent grades of rabbet slim and tr.ake un excel- I lent arti, le "Von told us that a hundred times before Mr Flint." "I don't think so. I want to explain that the I I prlc? of rubber shoes lins been reduced, thal the public ls getting good value for Ks Stoney Mr Flint then began to make a long explanation ns to his connection xvlth the company, Ile said thet he was In an entirely lim- nf nnd lind not even a ilexk In the Ofl.CS of the United States Rubber C'ompmx. "I haxn no knowledge of the details of the buataaas." lu- wenl on, "but I nm Informed that the prlc of labor has not been re? duced by Ihe I'nlted States Kubbi Company "Vou i-Hn practi.iiii> dose every factory in New and still supply i ustunii rs lu United States?" I "I dont think so." in reply io iinjihcr gusstlon, aitaasa admit- ted that the i'ol. hester works had boen closed.

"And ion men thrown om of employment?" "1 don't think t-o." OF THK TRUST ARRAIGNED lt wns learned, however, that this number of men were discharged, whereupon Mr. Lexow tackled the witness on the policy of the trust la buying up other concerns and closing them down, when nt the sami. time, thc company sass actual? ly unable, according to Mr. Flint's own testimony, to use more than 60 per cent of the facilities lt owned. This wmlgnsnsni of trust drew from Mr.

Flint the rejoinder: "I would like to explain thut we ure actually manufactur mg more goods than we can pul en ins market, In order to keep our m.n employed, ami wini. I sall resterdsr thnt we were not norning to a greater ext. nt than par ent of our capacity. I ShOUM havs thnt, owing ta Ihe variety oi prod ueu we never can work factories to their full capacity. Wa have supply of so many different thousand rortettofl thnt lt si comi.uls.r-.

upon us io i.i sn caressive product capacity. foti see, necessary to" Vee!" Interrupted Mr. Lexow, "We under? stand ail that; we ha.e heard it many tlsnes be? fore." Not in lbs leant put out, however, Mr. Flint kapi on, repeated how the dlBerenl va? il, ties of rubber sho-s made nt at) overplus of capacity on the pan of the trust. Senator nnd his ooHeaguss, with a display resin untilm.

listened to the long recital, and ter? mination Senator Lexow asked: lt rot a fa-' thal you Increased tne price oi rubber bets from MSB tl Bi la Ihe si Ting of don't know anything about the price of boots li- rer sold a pan la Ufo nave no Information on the "Front vour mci knowledge, sue io ray In IBM after Ihe closing pl the socket and mills, price of rubber hoots was not Increased noni tl cannot: ian I rio not think that ii vans VOU illili til. incase Was not I cannot; bu; I would like lu explain that ll sny in reuse was made, Ihe qualltj of our prodtRts "Now see here." saki Mr. Les "wi hav.i"l thai explan nlon often ihsl I srsni you to mj everything on rhar subject thai you possibly can. ii i now. very nord if lt.

so lhal re will h. i.i ir explaining anything again shau: the ol your thi different varieties ou make ric ni In." Mc nini availed hlmsell o' the opportunity. he md finished. Mr. Ina sllghtl) eupe di.oiu lone, asked: "Now, have you told us ill a hou I Ihe benefits h'V advantsgei arising fioin the form i lan ol ihi Ru iber Trui If not, s.n.

everj I ling I subjeci now. so thai hereafter you will be ab.e to iinawer our questions Hm Mr. Flin, had noi ii ha. With the utmo nei ui he ri piled Ihsl he had I i xpl ned rvi r) thing. There were ms Ibings lie could iy.

pl. ase implete ur iv. pli ad. I Ul Lexow, "becausi I mean to ask you some alli ct Hom io which i ii quire Hr. ci anawi i Flin did bo, i'o.

some len minutes mon he explained and explained, bu as il becalm ipjiar to his hi ia wis mend) rapejiliig the ii of his pret lo is plana 11 ns. the tm I the races of those pre enl In the chambei eventuall) i- re ope i Into open laug srhen had i italned sn opp rtunltj I i renes his examination, Mr. sow asked: "Is li no a faci ihsl with your facilities the trusi can clow ry fae lory In Massachu etts and New-Jersey If ii ir- Ires?" on't rim bo," Mr. Kl.ir's answer. if.

as you s.i>. you have maim iaie of wages In thc Interesi ol labor, explain rh committee, ir you will, aa hy. having a surplus pacify ol psi cent, ni bought the Colchestei and closed them down, ihros ns om ol em ploy men1 (Iva hundred hands; and prove, li here io the mill, abc ord ll and ii down after ot the employee ol the Col herd i ik had -ured irk there, throwing them i ii oul of employment I don't rhrnk those are facts." you swear Unit whal I have statr.l is not fl fai "in all its details i vt ill sw. ir that it is noi a rael "Well, ns matter- of fact, old you close down the 'olehesti a oi wi re cloe) men thrown out of employment?" don't know." "Did noi have the contract yourself of the 'olchester wonks?" "No "plcl you noi purchase the Colchester works?" "No; the I'nlted States Rubber pur? chased mortgage on the rty." "Through "Now let me ask you sgalnr Were there no) NM men discharged aa inn the Colchester works r. clot "There mat- have been; I don't know" (Laugh? ter "You then proceeded to Na uga tuck arl sbso Goodyear Company snd closed it down, did i i not illy va, il I pr- 'i N.IUgattl Bl wv Qooalyesr stock some time ift-r 11, munt, i "Well, anyway, i- was into the Rubber Trust?" "No." What! Don't you hold ths sjority of Its Btoi vour "We dO." "And ir now -los.

down?" "I DOUTT KNOW" AGAIN. "I don't know, i to point out that its af? fairs are managed by Its "Do you wish testify thal the i'nlted gtutea Rubber Company is not responsible for the maji igi mi in of t' companies, the ma jori iv of whoa tn li holder' not wholly "Now, is ir possible sa treasurer tbe Rubber Prusi thal you don't know whether Hie rectory i- itinning "To own knowledge don't "You ri illy wish to understood as saying lhal thi different companies ari under their -un Indar tenden! are under Ihe different management of Ihelr officers. The Rubber Trust holds ihe majority the stock, bul they are Independently the directorate ol rle- Rubber Trust is nails up ol one more from each ut he? suiisidi.il.-. comp mles?" "Yes, to some extern I aro i director of one ompany, hui I onl) i itended iwo meetings." Senator vow tren ass. i the witness If ll Bras a rael thai the I'i lt.

il Ri um drove Ihe lauckei Glove Company, of Island, of ex ht. ncc, hui Mr. Klirn said ie noi knots anything about thal matter i viler (ii- the witness I il H. mortgag' on the Mock of the Colchester was purchased rn August IWJ, "Now, tv.ak ruc closed down itnm llsteh after the United (Mates Rubber Company nilen.is-.1 the mortgage "No. slr; I think ii w.s long: time after." these works had running unlmerruot to that timi since ISM?" "I con't think bo." Replying, lo Mr.

Warner, the witness said thors vis no agreement won the bankers lhat the Vit-d States Rubber Company should purchase he stock of the vsrious companies from the hank i when Ihi latter lough! them The hankers nason to expect thal the properties would he ik.n off th lr hai rt "How do vim kiloaa "Th.y ip i i'nlted States Rubber ompany wanted lo gel rhe plant." you will ng ii swear there was no existing tgrerment. either verbal or written, that the tock was not lo be purchased hy the I'nlted "tates Rubba t'ompanj aftci its transfer lo bank? in al fixed i.i "I i.r..,\a any sn ii agreement Tha tankers offered stock received a certain price for i rrom the I'nlted Sta'i. Rubber Compant and urneil ii over lo the stockholders of ihe various ompanl. "And the ba iketa r.Ived Coo.ODO commission -n h- "ll tt.i> a regular business transaction." "And wai I ns to h.re thal Ihe fi Itt rt Hates Ruhlaer Company hid no previous nan n. ur with bankers lo take th.

stock?" "1 can repeat thal snow such acree hoi The imf has- of the Col sll i ian) again gone Into. A statement mule di. to the Na-w irk Btock Kxchangi as to he purchase avas read ij Senntor l.v.w thmk thal atalemi il said Mr you offer -i icK i'nlted Bi iti i tubber Company, which was good tor the worth of iii-- Ci li test. i on Whl already held i mortgaged "Tu- Col hester stock was noi considered worth I'Js" "State what eletnenl of taine lhere ta io tbe 'nltiil Rubber Company In a factor which v.is Vp I .1, waa rn be rlosad li "The consideration of t.ie value mi property one which only an expert can pass." thi wltne said hs did noi knots whet nkers purchased tha various properties ni in figures recommended by the appraising rom Hillel "Bul you oughl know you were the i hk I iromoter of the icheme," r.iid Mr, Warner. PROMOTER "I style mys, promoter.

I was ham, having sn Interesi In the rubber in. eplled Mr. fllnl sh "Who authorls thi of Hie stock that las afterward appraised and turned Into ths gtstefl Rubber Company?" aa.i- no authorisation ii Hollins A i. stock from the i'nlted States Rub ''ompany, and ssttisd wini stock lOldl i- ll not a Vt thal thc directors ol thi ra rio ompania'B (hal sre active hate piao on ths to.ir.i ol Directors of the I nlted Bte les Rubbet mpani'" "No, -ii. ii ls not a fal COmpan) that is and not dosed i represented on Ihe Hoard?" "The (1.ia.

ii Belt Ins Companj i- noi ronre anted i ui "Do you mil ihsl ths United Btatss Rub? ier nt vah ase dire, tot on rlsi hi lents of sub-companies does not control the. otley of the rarloua "I ihat Hu- I'nlted ftstes Rubber rom an Inalependem orgsnlsstlon and lhal om. 7 din mi haye m. connection whatever rilli the -al. a.

Replvlna to tVnsioi McCarren. ihe wit rn lld the Pal i il I'omnsn) fa is alva i-i. ur solids lion "The Para Rubbei Company losi threi quarters a million dolldi rn cnmpetltlon." said Mt Clint "Whal aaa-: financial condition of the Cal hester Rubber si the time of Ita hase by tbe I'nited giates Uni.her Companrr' don't know "Was United Stales Runner Company ro? le foi ii resolves pam Rubber amp ana "No, sir; the I ul cd a. Rubber did ol corns Into sxlstencs until the Para Rubber IV Dr. Lyon's PERFECT Tooth Powder AN ELEGANT TOILET LUXURY.

UsikI by ponplo of refinement for over a of century. of a million dol Company had thr.c-u.uart.r-: "Von at- my largely Interested 1" Hm export trade, I -bink vou told UK?" thal la mv bUSlMSS 1 think I am one of the largest buyers for export In thc United States. What is the effie: on various Industrial of the EFFECT OF THE EXPORT TRADE. The eff.et I- that in tines depression such as laifc.i ole by Mg itidtistti.l combination- Th.y univ nie able to compete willi the cheap labor of c. densely populated countries outside own, iiwii'lf to the tait thal thCSO companies use labot Hiixini.

machinery. th. American laborer ls 1 i 1.1. Df th Ma owlnfe to tbe existence uperlor equipped orgsntxa Ilona or I v. factnr.s.

Through ptoduction and the na ai.i- to pay i i "Bul inst displacement labor ln stead of i mplo) m. m. does it suggested tho t'oiti Nyack. and the i instimrr despite th. Inert In price, the fm i imlnatlon of Mr.

Flin! waa postpon until thia morning, in order Rive him un lunilj produce tbe Bimmona At ibis point committee adjourned for luncheon. lin: AFTERNOON siis-H mmlttee upon resuming alter took ip the so-called Bods omi.nation William tia- of tile Church Ar Dwight Company, xx hi, ii is said to posai-ss the monopoly of bicarbonate soila trade in the states of New-York sad New-Jer waa llrsl celled to the -t examination wa- conducted by Assem? blyman Bedell, and he atated at that the i rn waa in. ot por.it..I In July of last year, with a capital stock of ICJ.iaai.iaal, which had i.n fully at N.i* Church. lt waa elicited in course oi further exan I Hatton thal the director, were all re? lated, snd that the) held practically the whole of the stock of Hw company, ti'- added thal tin (Irma thal were consolidated into the corporation were lohn Dwight Co. and ibe oid Arm of Co.

Aft.r explaining thal aa lora tua sold by the com? to retail trade through agents, or factors of i trust, bs they hu to be xx h. he i.len tilled a copy au tc. nt a hy Mr. Bedell, thal th-- com? panj made vxiai factors, providing thai a Iiati of one-half ceni per pound should be to all factors who agreed aell the "Cow" br.uni and I of soda, aold bj ihe rhurch fl Dwlghl i'ompany. al nol less iiiai.

and a pound in packages, than lour and one-hall centa In hulk in IOU p.ao.t* aaa. Th also in ai. t.it the rebate, noi to "ell i.r.m.i* of soda al a less rate or io push their talc "Kow, in Ibe face thi terms of "sis agreement, ran Jobber, a-ho noi one of your factors, pete with a xviio haa signed one of your Igrei m. I "Wi ll, hi does nol nel the rebate "Have you not, aa matter of f.t.-*, brought aboul i of affairs wbrreby all john- ra are com to mik" agreement waa you?" i don'i rbink wi 'Then xxii.it is purpoiie thc agreement?" "I'h. wh aale groei ra lo uk and told na tiny could nol do huslnen.4 unless they werre pro ti.

led ss to price They said if we did not prate li. in ihey could not do business. The wholi bate iiislni waa a nulsahci to ua and we aid nol wish to lt. Titi- wa- in IMB," witness sahl there driving gooda competition compelling the to sell Ip company's exclualvi ly, 'i-u't a a fad thai ir a factor nix- other id of aorta ai lesa than yours, hla aurr. a.

nt la withdrawn ami ta. allowed NO EXPERIENCE OK THAT KIND. "We have not bad of that kind." "Now, l' the fa. lhal you have limited by agreement ila- rale ot' bicarbonate of soda tll Ile Be two hr ital- "No, it is not." there a competition againal you for the if bicarbonate of soda In packages?" "Ve a little." "Have vou not a monopoly lu the sale in the State New-York?" "I would nol any we h.t.'. a of the salo bicarbonate I think we sell mora of it anybody else." wan.

ia admitted that nine-tenths of tin holt ile Grocers' Association di ilred continue tl agreement. Ile denied thal his com? inan! fixed the price lora tua In the state, of Kew-York and New-Jeraej to the detriment of i- concerns. Thi Wltn' said thal bulk soda w-as without brands, ai ope and one-half cents a pound. "ls there any difference between thal soda and you sell with al three and one-half anti pound?" "I cant tell. I nm not connected with the lari in lng i nd of the business." "Wnat does it cost.

p.T pound, to pul the soda in packages?" "1 ean't tell." The witness sihl no rebate was outside Mew-York auto admitted thal there were igreementa with fa 'tors In Pennsylvania and other i Ita in ress rd to the of bicarbonate of sods ti New-York. The price In New-York was restricted I (Ive and one-half cent, a pound. "So that, in borne state of New-York, the is a pound, while in tiie other States is only "W.n. tin- other States have io iy by freight barges." witnesa then ki. ve long description of bow a-, company mnriufaeturi-il soils.

He denied thai here wa- aux sgreemenl between company lu Salve Company, of Byrai-i or aux other corn? ie ting compen.es, In regard to output of soda. In reply lo another question, th, wit said that he company would he vi rj glad to drop th. factor nn-eemeni altogether, "lt good of ihe rebates." he said "Were you coerced" p.to making the agreement?" practically "itx whom?" "By ihe Wholesale Grocers' Association." "Now, is lt a fad that vuif rampant kenda pm a representative through this to'gel thc ill the jobbers had not signed "Well, we ra a circular and received a re? ir tt.ai; thi aaf-rl" of Jobbers, saying they xi-? .1 continue the ogre -menI "in xvii.it way you hold ti-' men who enter the agri 'tn. ta in tip. light of agents?" I have i opinion on thal uhjevt," replied the riti "You have no opinion?" queried Mr.

Bedell "No --h." replied Mt i in to iron. Mr. Worner, the ilrt that hi believe bli company id competition from Ihe market. il" na t. ii xx p.

li in- ompnnj paid the Salve 'om pa ny tot bicarbonate ot noda. "Even if i answei ina question" he worn "aa io tin- prli wi paj the Sah. i'ompany I m.uld t.k.- good counsel nnnwerlng it I Ihlnk Ihi committee should aek me to answer I a ll' as we competitora in thia room "Thsl la matter for tbe committee to determine," The vx mesa aald that the retail price the soda from io teti nta .1 pound. "Isn'i li rsi 1 1 hs 1 no manufacturer in thia State an h.t. islnesf when you se 1 your at flt snd r.e-hnll --i nta .1 pound "No, li la not "Do v.ni aol pla th- lobber the posltl thal he rtl ai and one-half ital thai all la muai be sold ai th.

pr ia "1 di n'l think bo Bena 101 iota h.t.. quotion- bink Legislature 1 rherahy the rtwuners In tba Stats s. w-Y Two Ili-Kiilnr nnd Irreaulnr! srbleh it'i rr-fr to belong? The rsgelsr. Irrefii- ar. ii.lmftMij.

th- BMSl 1 ssl Ikey aaa rn .1 wy gita sf no Isrisftae 11. wU1 mim iii ri. l-l (Per boiveM Btlloui irellowsetfl of bream longtw, stjoralag aassas 111 IBM xl. tnllv Ilv.r. HUV aatUcba Hoati sf peepla ebma 1 ia in, ,11 ia aoveraai 1' a of ike bowels, sis tc ths Bluers, whick sissuaveti mag raalsrti ii-u seuralsm.

M. i (' a af ekecfcmg waaaaiaaa 1- kaatsalai ces aleseaaMa aaMajSUai ike taSnalitaa ai itu tonir without paralla more for the goods of a corporaUon than oonsumers of other Rta res?" "I ri't think that Ira the case," replied Mr. Walker. MR. DWIGHT ON THK STAND.

John Bl Dwight was ihen called, Mr. Bedell be? gan to examine him upon the price lld by the Church il Dwight Company for salem ma to rh- Inlvd C-mpany, when Svnator Lenoni encaged hla fjOtteugUS tn A Whispered btmsottatkMI tot minutes, Then, adlie.s-'Dii' the wlrness. Mr. Bodell Bald he wold nit persist in lhat lins Sf questiOaaS as they might place the compghy ai a disadvantage with its competitors. Chanel I' Cope, the Junior member of the hrm of J.

Monroe Tayjor, wa? alto briefly examined. The substance of his evidence went to show lhat owing tu Hu agreement made hv the Church A- Dwight Conmen) wiih rdneHenths of um wholesale grace rs of the its te, ins company was unable te kv its product to the Ila stated thar the ave rase price of a i botiaie of Beds wnw nliour one and one-half cents a pound to purchase iron) the ssanufact urara, and that lt could he s.M to the dealers at four per pound. Instead five and one-half cents. Tiie Committee tuen adjourned a in ri ll o'cloch this moi nf when Mt. Font will be recalled, and after? ward lbs Wai: Phage will bc Investigated.

It TIU'ST DIRECTORS MK KT. There tv.is n. a- y.ntl I day of the dire tors of the stager Trust, srhlch lasted from 12 to sa. lt was attended bv rt. O.

Iliiv.mcv.r. A Hiv meyer, John K. and john Parsons They WOUid not sav whether Ihev ha.l di ddi .1 to produce the trust's books before the Israow Investigating Committee They said lt would be discourteous lo the committee. THK LBXOW COMMITTKB DKKOt'KCBD. Professor Gunton, ef the gchool of Social Eco? No.

inion nsjuare, spoke ia-i nigh! ea "The Lexow Committee." in iriaroroua language be defended'the OrUMtlsatten ot trouts and denounced Ihe Lexow committee; thi methods of Investi? gation and thc object of its creation. "Thc present Investigation," Bald Professor Qunton, "is polltl cal one rainer khan an economic one, and the work of soma ene to create political capital. 1 manner, methods and animus of Senator Lexow In onductltut lt are discri to an hom st ina-' sation. I don't Mil ve In humbug, and I don't Believe in harassing individual progre a by Bun? ter fugs." REOENTS' STANDARD ATTACKED. A HEARING ON THE NEW-YORK LAW school BILL.

rit.wK n. rr.tTT CFtiTtrtSRfl thi: UII1''II THE OTHER LAW gCKOOfaS ARg im.im; TO with PRO ranrg thf. sikasCrc Kob. hearing Importance ro law? yers ttl i law students sll over tbs State was held before the Assembly Judiclarj Committee to-day on Assemblyman Austin's Vii Incorporating tha New Vorfc Law School. Bishop William Croswell Professor Clarence Ashby.

Denn of tho faculty of the I'ntvorslty gchool of Kew-York; Presl dent a. v. Raymond, of CntOn College, and Frank H. Clan, of New-York, participated In the discussion. Bishop presented to Mr.

icherer, chairman of the committee, a large batch of pro tesis agslnst the bill. Mr, Platt, who appeared in behalf of the bill. charged thai the Hoard of Regents and several educational wera persecuting the Kew fork Law School There were Seven such Institu? tions tba Btate, sll of them except rh- New York Law School being separately chartered and having the power to confer degrees and diplomas on their owe. enamlnatlons. He said I thal til- attacks which li- charged the Hoard of Regents arith making against New-York Law Behool w.ie Inspired by the Columbia and LJnlver- sity i.aw Schools.

Hs charged thal the questions which were submitted for- the Regents' examination to the of the New-York Law gchool last year wera propeled by student just graduated from the Columbia school, and several well-known Judges of th- Supreme Court, whom be named, had characterized them as unfair, not calculated to develop the students' knowledge and Intended to confuse them. Th rged, was In line with thc deliberate ictl in of ihi Board of Regents, none of whorn i'ol ever visited the Institution ho repn- I ur km snythlng about it. to persecuti and In lure ths echo. i. The bill which he asked to have reported favor ably would give the New-York Law Behool the 1 same standing as the others As ll was the stu- ih ti's w.re ii.

pendent for diplomas on sn, exami? nation Sa had called to the atti ntion of the Commit te The Buffalo ri. I Syracuse BCtlOOlS could pass th. ir students on twenty-four Cornell on and the Albany Law Behool i nothing but year's course to secure a diploma, i while the New-York Law Behool v. is required to pass on forty-eight counts, Bt student front tlc latter school could gel a decree he sui. mil io special requln tnenta adopted by the Hoard of Regents, wher.

ta tbe other law schools the potter to confer degreer on their nts on ilc-ir on examinations kid thal tin students In tho Nen v.uk I.au School ans V7. in t'olumbia Ml and in tu. Cniverslty rv. That avas tin true animus Ihe whole opposition. This hill that thej Nea Yoi; Law Behool should have authority to confer degrees and diplomas after a "two years' course Bishop Doun-.

Professor Ashley and President Raymond lad their whole objection to the bill un the rule of the regents that the power to confer a degrees shall noi ho granted to institutions having resources of lees than v.m.r.... and on ths plea that the mercenary character of the Kew-York law s. hool in conferring degrees lower the stand- -ri. Mr. I'latt replied thnl the New-York Law Behool lld not re i.i i resourci Ali ii wanted aa.

r-nough money to a building and no! com- I led io continue paying hmh rentals to the i Bqultable. Dr. Raymond said that the righi to confer de- trees had ii waived hy nf the law schools a mentioned by Mr in so far cs thea- not i inform to requirements the Board of Regenta main iwlnl of the bill was thal it chartered in Institution Independent absolutely of the Board if RaagentS, while all the other law schools pro- ned iii live np to the requlrementa of the regenta, it rVtioth. hearing on the bill will be given. FOR 1 KEW HALL Ol RECORDS.

rm: RILL HAS KOW PASSED BOTH HOl'fiEg? HB.VATR PROCEBOlNOg. Albany, b. it (gpecial) Aataemblyman Austin's authorising the erection of nsw Hall of Rec mis in tbe of City Hall l'ark. N'cav-York. MSSed the Senate li-day.

lt SfaS reported frtvor a i.i by rities Committee and on the request Senator Cantor, ts advanced to third reading Hld passed. The measure had previously passed the following bills nam wi re passed; nator Mut ins's, providing 'lia! persons convicted Sf train vrecklng, In which one or more lites are lost, shall gulitj mur.i.r tu the titst degree; H. T. An Irews's, authorising New-York City to honda or the purpose of paying for land heretofore fm- the erection of a courthouse for tin- Ap? pellate Division, Bupreme Court, first Department; iso. authorising New-York City to issue honda for payment -f lands acquired for Pori Washington (' Senator Quy's, appropriating uVUM for Usa few-York Law Library of the Supreme I I The iv.mi.

'Committee reported for confirmation he nominations by the Oovernor: Peter cf Ogdensburg, be Lunacy Commie- J' loner; avis Martm. of Clinton to be trustee if the Rome Custodial Asylum; Marve; VV, Cut- ri nun of Buffalo, to bs Btate Commissioner of ah were unanlmousl) confirmed. JJ In committee of tbe whole there w.i; some discus- mn riie proposed amendment lo tho Railroad aw which provides that sb per oem of tiie Btock- lolders or any stree! surfa i Iroad company may tm ir. hui the bonds cf another railroad company 'nd. i exlatlng law ir the consent lock holden preseni si Meeting The amendment ras opposed in Sena toi rirarketi 1ip rho de lr I that the bill should bs i ml ted I i the tallroads Committee They said i ie bill was drafted the Interests of a street rallriad conttru ted from luff a lo ti The general street railway si ol Buffai leslred to absorb the railroad, but iras from doing so bi Ihe objection lotder owning a slngla share of Btock The i.

Il wss ommltted, Thi vi-, were Introduced' My s.iiar...- K.ather,,,,, Prohlbltl'na rallroada In i' few-York ruy In Sixty-fifth and Ki- a. i. ilntii sta, Baal Kad-ave. Kant Plfty-sevenih-a Beventyfleeoad-et. and tn Avenue A from PirtV sventh sr north itv s-nuor Caril or Exempting telegraph operai irs epi.tt-r, an.l editors of press associations mi ti aeocles In Mew-Yorh Cllj fr ni duty.

I PAPER ILIBM." was the fttppaa an Interesting read t.y kv. Johnson, of tribune, In chapel of the Lenos Avenu- rjnltnrUin Church One-hundred-and twenty-flrst-st ami tatnox- ai ve. hml evening was tha monthly neeting sud ginger of btmn't Club ike beril. SM at.is .1, "Indies' Hight." was Mr. Johnson re- elved ie ii ty ami well-merited applause Among (l hose present Wera Hie Merle St 0 IVffaghl Si aator ol ihe ll Kenyon, president, ax ml H.

Siiauldlng. secretary of the club; Edwin Bice, Willam s.ita^.-. Wendell Jackson homsB ll I'ouser, Hoorge T. t'hase, Itmioipn aeppler, Leopold i.ans) saan) other well-hnown eopie Tbs club nas eegnniseil shout three vaars so mainly tor ihe dUcuseton of tcplcs of anblie y. nlorest, snd rsportssi lo bs in an exceedingly sr louriahlng cuudltloo.

gt bm sol tl an yu hero. VOt THS AM) SOTS' HATS t-. Oft. Beltaire, Lurch ANTi IVH" lUgg, Broadway, corner 42d Street. OOGGEHHALL THEIR FRIEND, HIS BILL rx THK IMTEJtMT of thi RAVAGE ff'MI'AN'Y.

SM ATTK.MIT T'l IKKMiNT A Tko. vor.Mtt.F-. rki'oiit om Mit mu am rs mu. rOR AM IX NANOK OF U'lTU Tin-: HUI RRNMNMT. Albany, Feb.

17 (Boot The scheM mit the state to an egpendlture of or 1900,000 fm- the purchase of Um Savage zine rifle for the National Quarti, at a time wbaaj the United Btates Goverotnenl stands reaajp to give the state Springfield rifles in es chance for tbs ones now in ase, further dis closed to-dsjr. Senator Coggeshall, who tsssgg from Oae-tdg County, where Inventor and thc chief owners tbe Bavag. gun live. ti Mil making tbe following declsrsttoa: "The riuvertn-r is authorised tr. purchsse fer the Stair- from time to tim- such rifles an.l cart.ines, in such iiiiml.ers as thr service may of the pattern snd constitu lion rerommtmojed by th" Board of ExajnjBfn.

spp-otated maier Chap? ter iitMi of the Laws of IflOCi, selecl imprced Iii- f.r the use of the land naval forces nf the State" if this Mil ihouM hcome a law the state be eonuMtted to the adaption nf the Savage pan. although Governor Morton ilei-lineil t'l SppfoVS the f.lX'urH i.le report lt maile the commission which easmlnH the question. Assemblyman P. H. Murphy eotae Um ago Introduced a hil; authorising the ol the Remington niles now used bj th'- MatJoatl luard Springfield rifles, whlcb the Nett ral Sovernmcnt will furnish.

Assemblyman A r.ell, Brookljm, moved a recommittal of ap imrently excellent bill to the Committee on tary Affairs for a bearing. Mr. Abell rotary of the commission whlcb recotnmcaggl Bavage Al on th? Murphy bill it us round t'aat Mr. Abell Wllhtd eulogise the Bsvage rifle. His sr.h war-a nf appendix io ths bill of Senator Cg.

lesbalL it also of course, aa attack ea ni Murphy bili. Among those preseni at 'he besting were ilstsni Adjutant-Ocneral Phlster rsenttal tbe National Guard snd ring the Mil, well as A. W. Ssvsge, the tr ntoi I the stun ef thai name, and H. Risley, i rettVf an.l treasurer of tbe Ssvsge Arms Company, Assemblymen Abell addressed the mmtttat llrsl and argued thal he had rn.I for i mlttal of tit" hill rices I he th gsa thc hill proposed sn hsng foi is worthleeg Mr.

Risley spoke at some leng ii i th meriti if the Savage gun. until, si the Ass.anl.lyman Murphy, the chairman Mopped liim. Informing him thst th.lestlon und had nothing to do wltli thi Ravage gun. Colonel Phlsterei nexi and stated thaf the Remington now In use In the N'stioaal tuard waa norn out. Even the temporary itltutlon of the Springfield -ran offered by Pederal Government would be (rest bene ll int ll further relief might be ol.talner.

Mr iilteland the Colonel if he thought th K'sa better gun than the Springfield, hut a answer wsa refus .1 Mr. Savage explained the working of hla in iren tlon. Til.mmlttee finally decided ti repori Mr. Mm pl-y's bill favorably e- TBEATRE 1 IGERh Ol TWIT UR. QBBBf.

KXATORg DECIDE HOT Tn PROHIBIT 1 UN THK tTAOH Albany, 1: Elbridge (Jerry BftsrBSM ppean I before I Codea Committee of the s. 1 sdvocscy of the billa prepared by his ssctetjr. Pnr. a al among these was the bill prohibiting nee children upon the etna Uv r--; ula Aldrich, veteran sold be represeated li- moat reputable the theatrics! managers Ol i'ew-Y ik ki bia opposition ta thia MIL They Ire to elimiti.it.. ps rt of tiie laxx- which pre.

-I the sltitfinK and dancing of ciiiMren. much opposed to this was Mr. derry. Ita no good resson, bosrever, to prohibit children ppesrlng In legitimate spesklag BxpreseloBi membera of the committee left r. i doubt in lind of M- Aldrich thar th's feature would ti: 'ken out of the In THE CONNECTING RAILED AD'S PLANE ESfATOR Kulin ADVOCATE! IT A gSXBfR TC ORCATBR KW -TO RK.

Albany, Peb. it a project of mu, to thi 1 New-York wss considered by th. ena te Rallroada Committee thia afternoon, ir Kor.i the committee to report fsversh) is i.iii extending for five irs from April RI ie within which Hie New-Tork allroad Company tea) construct Ita read leastM stii.i the Intended build 1 rsfj em Pom Morns. New-York City, le Ese! New ork snd Brooklyn. The road la to ran over 1 ridge which to ho const ruc ted between the itu ties across Ward's island ford the roa4 ould an Immense beneAl io the realer New-Tork, and would allow psasasgara direct Hrooklyn part of the cssotlB be company Intended to conatruct a atanasltl toge road, snd bsd csp tal of il Tkesgi civil engineer one th.

1 romoteri of titi impsny, waa negotiating with r.ipltali*'.! furnish iv l.ODO or NO.Cotl.000 to const I set tm 1 Idge an.l railroad liena lor Peatherson Intimated ti aassl xvas a scheme on the pan of the Sew Knglaal allroad io gel sn entrance Into Urea tei rk Ich a i.a> been trying 10 aecure foi mani thal ihe xx-Ka psi any with the nea I mt the proposed road would form an Imperial nk between ihe two elites snd con trw wou.i iMloubtedly he eoughl by es int I na trunkJItSM Ti di elded to irixo hearuig on the Mn r.lll.s.Ii' LMiwiM OE HIE CONTROHJBESEtE lt ROBERTS A LINMI; IN HOMOS SS rxvAkioM. albany, Peb. IT Tbe State Cogtrofer'a aaVeM ij decorated wltb rlaas and bunting In beag the antivi of the resttoa of thi i.inx visitors includlsg geigrel pt ike el ot trollers Al Hotel Nenggera Oak Roberta gsve ti -lit net 11 tbe eiuht llvtagal ontroOera Pleb mt the eight ware preseni reseal Nelson Hosklaa of Buikla ron Un-if; Otestl Sf NSS B7-1I; Alfred Cbapke, sf Brooklyn, Eii uni Wemple. of IW Krat.k ill. of HhHi.

tM-fi the SS entreaters, huluisd Oirearnor Bhwk, l.ientanam Speaker uilrolv. llsworth iiu.i sad Assemblygges nd Pinn; K. A. Orotvsbeck of otial 'omni, ulai Bank, and J. Howard resident of thc New stat- National Bani lt- lJ11vi.lsx.il.

Deputy ret.ir- of Hta'e; r.r in. cr Adams DepuO roinroii.i-. Morgan ferrlmsn, nnd Mr fijrcm-Il, who.has coe e. ,..,1 with the Cansl JAudttot'sand the thirty-one rosra rnere kme Informal apsechmaklng espropNste te Easton. Aft.r Controller Boberte efl ls guests wenl to Ihe Kort Ornnne 1 lah i-v ix to Sttepd thc reception I anea WS overnor Mrs Arr looking for a lr-realn In 1.11 to sell ar exchange OSSji Jtyonmm light find what you want In the little ad-rerutki icnta in ths uarrow columns,.