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The CITIZEN. OTTAWA SATURDAY. AUGUST 23. 1986 H7 Just 'being themselves' makes for good show A case for togetherness By Ian Bailey Citizen staff writer rj Jfe ft For four years, Rabbi Arnold Fine, Rev. Tom Sherwood and Rev.

Barry McGrory have found time once a week to sit in a quiet room and talk about religion. What makes their conversations unusual is that they have an estimated 12,000 eavesdroppers when they present Focus Religion, an interfaith discussion broadcast on CJSB, an AM radio station, every Sunday at 7:35 a.m. Fine, 48, is rabbi at the Agu- dath Israel Congregation in Ottawa. Sherwood, 38, is pastor at the Orleans United Church, and McGrory, 52, is a priest at Holy Cross Church in Ottawa. But the trio will soon be a duo at least temporarily.

McGrory is leaving the city to take a year's sabbatical from his duties at Holy Cross Church to study at the National Defence College in Kingston. They taped their last regular, 25-minute show together Tuesday. It will be heard on the Labor Day weekend. The three have been broadcasting from an electronic pulpit since Labor Day four years ago, after CJSB's first station manager invited Fine to help develop a religious radio show. Fine invited McGrory to join him and McGrory, in turn, contacted Sherwood, then an occasional teacher and full-time sociology student at Carleton University.

Under the guidance of station manager Sid Margies, they developed a unique weekly dialogue on topics such as sex, clergy burnout, abortion, faith healing and capital punishment. Margies has since left the station, but his recruits have continued to voluntarily provide their unscripted, unedited discussions in their Sunday morning timeslot. Occasionally, a new perspective is provided by a guest. Recent visitors have included Rev. Sally Eaton, the first woman ordained by the Anglican Church in Ottawa.

As he watched them tape their McCrory, left, Rabbi Arnold Sherwood. "The fact that a priest, a minister and a rabbi are having a public debate is good news," he says. "You have to learn the vocabulary of interfaith consultation and most of it is just listening." No matter how involved the topics become, one thing the three they never do before a program is prime themselves with detailed research. "None of us has the time for scripted research," says McGrory. Adds Sherwood: "The prepara THE ANGLICAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF CANADA PRO-CATHEDRAL OF THE ANNUNCIATION 289 Spencer (At Carleton) Rev.

Canon M. H. McLenaghan Rector Rev. K. Phythian, Rev.

R. C. Corbeil ST. BARTHOLEMEW THE APOSTLE 9:30 A.M. Mattins 10:00 A.M.

Sung Eucharist and Sermon (Information: 722-9139 596-9339) MISSION OF ST. JUDE (Almonte, Ont.) (Information: 1-256-3330) MISSION OF ST. CUTHBERT (Brockville, Ont.) (Information: 1-342-8285 WE HOLD FAST TO THE FAITH OF JfSUS CHRIST AS TAUGHT BY THE APOSTLES. EMBODIED IN THE SCRIPTURES, PRESERVED IN THE UNDIVIDED CHURCH AND EXPRESSED IN THE BOOK OF COMMON PRAYER. In this time of new Christian ecumenism many of the branches of the Church are working together more closely then they have any time since the Church began dividing itself many centuries ago.

But Christians are still divided at a point where they should be most united, at the great central act of Christian worship, the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper, the Eucharist, the Holy Communion, the Mass it has many names. This problem in disunity is pointed out by the word "Intercommunion:" that word also points to the need for the resolution of the problem. This Sacrament is the Church's distinctive way of being the Church. It is a re-presentation of the event in the upper room in Jerusalem on the night before Jesus was crucified, when He broke the bread and poured the wine and invited His disciples to eat and drink with Him. He commanded them to repeat this action in remembrance of Him, an action declaring His mission to the world and demonstrating His continuing presence in the community of faith.

As it was put by C. H. Dodd, one of the most influential New Testament scholars of our time, "In this Sacrament the whole of what our religion means is expressed." But this Sacrament, whatever else it may be and may do, tends to be an agency not of Christian unity but of disunity. Some branches of the Church seem to be demanding of members of other branches that they have, so to speak, ecclesiastical First UNITARIAN Congregation of Ottawa 30 Cleary Ave. 725-1066 10:00 a.m.

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In my gloomier moments I can imagine celebrants at some communion services saying, "This is the body of our Lord Jesus Christ broken for you, and for you, and for you too. But, sorry, not for you, not yet, not at this time anyway." Some of the arguments against taking down ecclesiastical fences at communion services are trivial and snobbish. But most of the arguments being put forth today are honest, anguished, free of arrogance. I can understand the misgivings of denominations having rather exact sacramental theologies as they deal with those in which there are tendencies to treat the Lord's Supper rather casually and carelessly. They are properly concerned to protect something they hold to be very serious and of the essence of the on-going life of the Church.

But does the sacrament need this kind of protection? Surely John Wesley was right when some two centuries ago he said, "I invite to the table of the Lord every person whom I invite to the Lord." (Dr. Davidson, a retired minister of the United Church of Canada, lives in Victoria) BIBLE BAPTIST CHLRCH Independent Fundamental Premillennial 572 Moodia Drive 9:45 Sunday School 10:30 Family Worship 6:00 Sunday Evening Wed. 7:30 p.m. Bible Study Pastor Virl Stalnaker 820-3632 EVERYONE WELCOME 9:45 a.m.-CHRISTIAN EDUCATION 11 a.m. MORNING WORSHIP Speakers: Rev.

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lilt wisiiMiiiii MlillilffiQiii Partners in religion, Rev. Barry last show together, CJSB talk-show host Ed Needham said the differences between the members of what he calls the "Holy Trinity" make them special. "It's the way they disagree that makes them good," says Need-ham, who has had the trio on his own show to discuss the value of religion and other issues. "They can express their differences without antagonism," he says. This exchange without anger is what the show is all about, says GLAD TIDINGS PENTECOSTAL CHURCH Room B110 Algonquin College Woodroffe Campus Sunday 1 p.m.

Information: 749-9799 Affiliated with United Pentecostal Church UNITY CHURCH OF OTTAWA UNITY; a.m. Macies 1274 Carting 5:00 p.m. 507 Bank St. Dial-a-thought Office 594-8755 233-9690 Sharl D. Culliver, Minister 1 WEStBORO BAPTIST CHUSCH 307 Richmond Rd.

722-1893 Pastor: J. E. Clemens 10:30 a.m. Family Worship 6:30 Evening Fellowship Mid-Week Service 7:30 Wednesday Welcome Visitors to Canada's Capital Preaching the Doctrines of Grace PARKDALE FELLOWSHIP BAPTIST 474 Perk data (North of Queensway) Pastors: Rev. R.

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Stephen G. Bel Pastor Rev. Robert Hayes, Assistant Pastor 9:45 a.m. Bible School for All Ages 11:00 a.m. "OTHERS WHERE DO WE BEGIN?" 6:30 p.m.

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Tom Sherwood tion we're doing as ministers comes into play. We're preparing for this show all our lives. The three of us can do this show by just being ourselves." But will Focus Religion overcome the loss of one of its founding personalities? "I think the ratings will nosedive," says McGrory with a smile. McGrory plans to return for occasional appearances on the show. In the meantime, his partners will fill his spot with a series of guests in the weeks after Labor Day.

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8" 6:30 p.m. FELLOWSHIP SERVICE Special Guest Speaker: Roiph Funk from Denver Colorado Nursery and Children's Church in all services OUR MESSAGE JESUS THE WAY a THE TRUTH THE LIFE 10:45 A.M. WORSHIP AND THE WORD Pastor Jacques Gagnon Staffed Nursery at Services 6:00 P.M. 100 HUNTLEY ST. presents 12 Parenting Plan Mr.

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