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Sunday. July 2. 1972 Morning Edition afjr SUUugfl (Sazrttr Me sitting in those cells four years ago have sat there another four years under the Nixon policy. We've blown up another $75 billion. The Nixon policy on Vietnam is worse than the Johnson policy on Vietnam because Nixon had the advantage of watching the failure of that policy under President Kennedy and President Johnson from the sidelines for eight years.

Beyqnd that, the slaughter of the innocents in Vietnam is a blot on American history. I've said many times that the Nixon bombing policy on Indochina is the most barbaric action that any country has committed since Hitler's effort wide-ranging interview: Democratic Sen. Henry M. Jackson of Washington is among those being left behind by the party's shifting center; McGovern's new welfare-and tax-reform plan will benefit most Americans earning between $4,000 and $20,000 per year, and he is boning up on monetary and economic issues. Here are the questions and answers: Q.

What are your chances of beating President Nixon? A. I think defeating men like Ed Muskie, Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace for the nomination is a much more complicated and difficult task than it will be to defeat Nixon in the fall, where the issues can be more sharply drawn. Even assuming the President ends the war by election day, it should be clear to every American above the level of a first-grader's intelligence that he's timed that for political purposes, that he's accomplishing nothing new that he couldn't have accomplished the first few months he was in office. Q. Is there no way then that the President can avoid those charges from you, regardless of what happens in the war? A.

There's no way. Some Americans have died during his administration and scores of others have gone to prison. Hundreds of those who were By GREGG HERRINGTON WASHINGTON (AP) Comparing U.S. bombing of Indochina to Hitler's campaign to exterminate Jews, George McGovern says President Nixon has boxed himself in on the Vietnam war, even if he ends it by election day. If Nixon can end the war by November he could have stopped it during his first months in the White House, the South Dakota senator said in an interview with The Associated Press.

That "should be clear to every American above the level of first-grade intelligence." McGovern, the favorite to win the Democratic presidential nomination, also said in a to exterminate Jews in Germany in the 1930s. Q. If Muskie or Humphrey could win the nomination, how would their chances to defeat Nixon compare to yours? A. I think it's possible that either Muskie or Humphrey could defeat Nixon. They're both very able campaigners.

I think they could address the economic issues very effectively. But I honestly believe I could do better than either one because of my long-standing differences with Nixon on the war policies. Another sharp issue that I draw with Nixon that would not be drawn by Muskie and Humphrey is the urgent need to substantially move spending away from the military sector to building up the country. Q. Do you foresee any danger at all of any kind of walkout during the convention or sitout during the campaign by any sizable elements of the party? A.

I don't think so. You see, what has happened, as I said sometime ago, the old establishment center has collapsed. It's just gone. old bipartisan Cold War policy is dead as a doornail. The old concept of allocating most of the budget to the military is dead.

The notion that the rich and the powerful should be able to avoid paying taxes is gone. It's just a whole new ballgame. People in the news can people want economic policies that work more than once every four years. I think the Nixon economic policies have been a failure. Inflation is entirely too high.

He has not solved the problem of unemployment. He has aggravated it. He permitted the farm parity levels to skid during the time he's been in office and accentuated the trend toward big conglomerates, monopoly business, mergers and sweeping out of small businessmen. The balance-of-payments position has worsened. We've had a trade deficit for the first time since 1888, last year.

Q. Do you agree with your biographer, Robert Sam Anson, who says you are either unwilling or unable to cope with the technicalities of economic details? A. I've spent more time trying to broaden my understanding of economics than any other field. I really feel that I know the foreign-policy and national-defense issues, tax-reform questions, quite well. But it is true that I find the monetary and economic issues difficult.

Q. What can you say about your soon-to-be-announced revised version of your own welfare-reform plan? A. That's going to become a tax-credit system under which most people will benefit in the form of tax credits. The people in an income bracket from $4,000 up to about $20,000 will benefit from the program through a combination of either cash grants or tax credit. The whole program will be administered through the Internal Revenue Service.

Q. Where would you find more money for the federal Summer's fun in Washington By ART BUCHWALD WASHINGTON What are well-known people in Wash- ington going to do this summer? A recent check around town revealed the following: Sen. George McGovern is going to Miami Beach in July for his vacation with either 1,478 or 1,509 of his dearest friends, depending on whom you talk to. McGovern's staff said the senator plans to relax, watch 8 television, read books on economics and take in some night life at the Miami Convention Center. When asked why McGovern had chosen Miami Beach for I IS his vacation, a spokesman said, "Peter, Paul and Mary are playing at the Fontainebleau." A CHECK WITH Sen.

Hubert Humphrey's office re- 3 vealed that the senator was going to pout. "All summer?" I asked. "Maybe right through until November," the voice on the other end of the phone said. "The senator has been very busy with the primaries, and he hasn't had much chance to pout in a long time. So he'll probably go back to Minnesota and just ijij sin there in a rocking chair and look out at the sunset and I Pout "Will he pout about anything in particular?" "IN 1960, THE senator pouted about West Virginia, but 8 this time he has decided to pout mostly about California.

I would say California and money are what Sen. Humphrey will be pouting about this summer." i Henry Kissinger's office said Kissinger hasn't firmed up his plans for summer yet. So far, all he has on his schedule 8 are trips to Belgrade, Bucharest, Budapest, Siberia, Ceylon, Mt. Everest, Beverly Hills, the Canary Islands, the North Pole, the Riviera, Stratford-on-Avon, Shanghai, Pisa, Bali, Stockholm, Australia, Addis Ababa, and Loch Ness. "Except for these few trips," an aide said, "Mr.

Kissin- ger hopes to keep his summer clear so he can go to the beach with a friend." i-i Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird is not going anywhere. "The Soviets are not taking a vacation," he told a congres-sional committee. "As a matter of fact, they are going ahead and building new missiles in July and August which will put this country at a 3-to-l disavantage. Unless Congress provides the funds to go ahead on the B-l bomber and Trident submar-S: ine, I cannot in good conscience take a vacation this summ-I er." PRESIDENT NIXON has decided to spend his vacation in Washington, D.C., one of his favorite resort towns. A White House spokesman said, "Key Biscayne is too hot and San Sj jg Clemente is too crowded, so the President has decided to jig take his family to Washington for the summer, and get away from it all.

The Nixons have been coming here every summer gj for three years, and the President considers it the perfect place to rest up for the football season." Vice President Spiro Agnew is still not sure what he's i going to do this summer, and so far the President hasn't told him. Agnew's adminsitrative assistant said, "The Vice Presi- dent has his heart set on going to Miami in August, but every time he asks the Committee to Re-Elect the President about an airline reservation for him, they tell him he's on 'standb- Martha Mitchell also is not sure what she's going to do jij this summer, and her husband John is not sure what she's going to do either. When I called her, she answered the phone 5 herself and said, "What am I going to do this summer? I'll tell you what I'm going to do this summer! Arid then some- 8 one ripped her phone out of the wall. Copyright 1972, Los Angeles Times Art Buchwald I was not elected to the board of directors of the prestigious Council on Foreign Relations. A total of 26 persons sought posi- JOHN PATLER, the television repairman convicted for the August 1967 murder of American Nazi party leader GEORGE LINCOLN ROCKWELL, was sentenced in Arlington County Court Friday to 20 years in prison after his appeal to the U.S.

Supreme Court was denied. Pa-tier had been a member of the party, but left shortly after his marriage and the birth of a son. back on the court to lose two straight sets to Nei. FRANCIS C. TURNER, a prin cipal architect of the interstate highway program, turned in his resignation Friday as Federal Highway Administrator.

Head of the Federal Highway Administration since 1969, Turner has been in charge of the $5-billion-a-year federal aid highway program. The 63-year-old Turner served as chief of staff for the commission which was appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower in the early 1950s and drew up the administration's proposal for construction of an interstate highway network. That system is now about 79 per cent complete. Interior Secretary ROGERS CO. B.

MORTON warned Friday that "the spirit of our parks is being obscured through over-usage." "We can no longer crowd people into our park areas, hoping to replenish our resources through just adding more land," he said. "We must set new standards of usage." He spoke at the 36th anniversary celebration of the founding of the Blue Ridge Parkway, held at Dough-ton Park located about 25 miles from the North Carolina border. have at times betrayed his intentions. But the man who stood up at a news conference and foot-faulted with his tongue by announcing a "tournis tenniment" was SEN. EDWARD M.

KENNEDY. When he recovered from the verbal rough and the volley of laughter, the senator made clear that he was announcing the Robert F. Kennedy Pro-Celebrity Tennis Tournament, Saturday, Aug. 26, at the Forest Hills Stadium for the benefit of the Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Foundation.

Among the participants are amateurs Art Buchwald, Burt Bacharach, Peter Duchin, Charlton Heston, Alan King, Dina Merrill, Carroll O'Connor, George Plimpton, Cliff Robertson, Dinah Shore and Neil Simon. From the pro ranks will come the likes of Arthur Ashe, Pancho Gonzales, Jack Kramer, Bob Lutz, Dennis Ralston, Stan Smith and Bill Talbert. Army GEN. WILLIAM C. WESTMORELAND has ended his 36-year military career.

At ceremonies marking Westmoreland's retirement after four years as Army chief of staff, Secretary of Defense Melvin R. Laird said Friday, "He has served his country well." Westmoreland, who led U.S. forces in Vietnam before returning to Washington, will be succeeded by Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, who also followed Westmoreland as U.S.

commander in Vietnam. Westmoreland has not indicated his retirement plans. Q. Summarize your plan to end the war and get the prisoners back. A.

I would halt the bombing the moment I was sworn in as president. Secondly, I would notify Saigon, Hanoi and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and other interested parties that I was setting a definite date for withdrawal of all American forces within 90 days' time of the inaugural. Simultaneously I would announce the termination of all military aid to the governments of Laos, Cambodia and South Vietnam. I would journey to Hanoi if necessary on behalf of the early release of those prisoners. It's my opinion that probably the prisoners won't be released until our forces are withdrawn and all military aid to Saigon is terminated.

But I'm confident I can negotiate that kind of an understanding. Q. Under President Nixon, inflation has slowed down compared to the final months of the Johnson administration, and total employment is up. How might this affect your campaign? A. Even if I were to accept those assumptions, the Ameri treasury besides closing tax loopholes and cutting defense spending? A.

I think a full-employment economy will generate tens of billions of dollars of additional revenue that will come from taxpayers as a whole. Not because of higher tax rates but because of higher income. Q. As president, what would you do about Cuban relations? A. I would hope that we could open up relations with Cuba with some of the same kinds of things the President's now doing with Peking.

I really can't believe that it's more important to isolate Cuba than it is Peking. You could begin either by inviting Castro or some designated person to Washington, or vice versa. Whether they would permit an American embassy there I have no idea. DANIEL ELLSBERG tions on the board Friday; 18 were nominated by a committee and eight, Ellsberg among them, got on the ballot by petition. Elected to full three-year terms were former Treasury Secretary Douglas Dillon and former Secretary of the Army Cyrus Vance.

BARBARA TUCHMAN, the noted historian and author of such works as "Stilwell and the American Experience in China, 1911-1945," says she will leave for China July 4 in response to an invitation from Peking. Mrs. Tuchman said she has been seeking permission for a long time to visit the country. Athletically speaking, it was worthy of Spiro Agnew, whose tennis racquet and golf club Law gives up festival fight 0 sHOp I TO I ADM. THOMAS MOORER The Senate Friday confirmed President Nixon's appointment of ADM.

THOMAS H. MOORER to a second two-year term as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The action came by voice vote without dissent or debate. It was a grand night for singing, but composer RICHARD RODGERS planned only a modest observance of his 70th birthday. "My wife has been ill, so we plan to confine our celebration to a small dinner for members of the family," he said.

The guests, he said, would include his wife, Dorothy, their two daughters and five of their six grandchildren, who range in age from 4 to 19 year.s Normally a man of glacial calm, BORIS SPASSKY, the Russian world chess champion, lost his cool in Reykjavik where he is preparing to risk his title in less than a week against Ameri- can challenger Bobby Fischer. "You are ruining our program," Spassky complained to photographers who snapped his picture while he played tennis against Jivo Nei, a compatriot. "This is a daily routine which I must get on with." Refusing the photographer's requests for two minutes of his time in return for a promise to leave, Spassky stormed off the court and returned to his hotel. Fifteen minutes later he was Monday nrss. 1 MRS.

EDITH IRVING EDITH IRVINGS extradition hearing has ended in federal court. But a decision on whether she must return to Switzerland to stand trial in the Howard Hughes autobiography hoax was delayed Friday until August. At the end of the hearing, Mrs. Irving returned to the Nassau County jail, where she began a two-month federal sentence June 16. Her husband, Clifford Irving, will begin a 212-year sentence after his wife's release.

DANIEL ELLSBERG, self-admitted leaker of the secret Pentagon Papers to the news media, was on the but 123 North Broadway weekend. County health officials said they feared epidemics from contaminated water and uncovered latrines, but at midweek, a physician from the Denver Department of Health and Hospitals, Dr. Kenneth Osgood, disagreed. He indicated adequate hygene is being maintained. Officers of the Colorado State Patrol, the Grand County Sheriff's Office, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation, U.S.

Parks Police and U.S. Park rangers watched as youths trudged by the roadblock. Lt. Gov. John Vanderhoof and his administrative aide, Henry C.

Kimbrough, visited the site of the festival Friday. The lieutenant governor, who repeatedly declared his intention of preventing the gathering, left the area without any comment at length. "I'm worried about the situation," Vanderhoof said as he left the scene. "We've got to go," he told a newsman. Gov.

John Love, meanwhile, seemed "seriously interested in avoiding any confrontation" between youths and law officers, according to American Civil Liberties Union attorney Nathan Davidovich. Davidovich said he received "no specific assurances from the governor," although he said he thought Love was "very sincere in his comments." By KEN HOSKINS GRANBY, Colo. (AP) An estimated 15,000 young people, religious pilgrims of sorts, gathered at Strawberry Lake in the Colorado Rockies Saturday for the start of a four-day religious festival. Sheriff Ray Grufing, who made the estimate from a command post near here, said things appeared peaceful. Grufing said he had no deputies at the remote lake.

"I don't have enough men to handle it," he saidJ Deputies removed the block-ade of trails leading to the lake late Friday and young people -who had swarmed to the Gran-. by area began the 7.7-mile trek to the festival site. The decision of Grand County authorities to remove the roadblocks came as a surprise. Earlier Friday a district court had upheld the legality of the road- block-. County Atty.

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