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I 7 I 1 i I I I i I 1 11 A 1 sth L. AI 4 Pat Rector, Movement Adis ist Dr. Laura Pollack, Rarity in ller Profession Itouseitife rrs. 'Marjorie Miller With Lauri 'We are channeled into roles so subtly that we aren't aware of 'We cannot chain wonten to the home, but they still should not work when they have very small 'Sometimes feel l'm missing Minors by being married. But before, 'when 1 scent out, it Was with the ofroal of meeting Involvetnent Is Key To Pat's Liberation Women Trying to treak ole as Sex Object' A Liberation Attitude Test then Most advocates can lead normal family lives.

They are concerned that men and women, holding the same job, get different salaries, that women are thought of only as child-bearers, not as total human beings. MOST HUSBANDS ARE sympathetic to their wive's speaking out; yet women in the movement don't see themselves as liberated. The freedom the movement seeks is freedom not only to choose, but also to formulate choices. One of the biggest oppressors of women, according to the Dayton group, Is the advertising world. "WOMEN ARE continually insulted and de-'graded by the mass media.

Millions of -dollars are spent to lure women into being more aware of the things advertisers are attempting to sell," a Dayton woman said. What are your answers to these questions, the basis of the women's liberation movement: Why are boys asked what they are going to be and girls asked who their boyfriends are? Pat Rector's parents reared her the way most middle-class parents rear their daughters. She played with dolls and wore frilly dresses, and education was important. WHEN PAT grew up and went to college, she started to formulate new ideas. Many young people who are reared in middle-class homes do the same thing.

"In high school I didn't think too much about political problems. I was conservative because the community was conservative. Conservatism by osmosis. "At Ohio University, I was embarrassed, into the position of having' to learn about the war in Vietnam. I found out there were a lot of important things didn't know, and lots of other people didn't know.

"I started doing a lot of ea din g. Several people friends and professorshelped me clarify political concepts. "I BECAME increasingly concerned about the brutalizing effects of society." Now, at 22, Pat is on the administrative stet of the University of Dayton, because "I am interested in the problems of higher education and social change." She is also deeply involved in the Movement, which is concerned about civil rights and Vietnam. Most women's liberation advocates have emerged from the Movement. "I've heard of some of the more radical actions and although I'm personally against some of the flamboyance," she said, "women are facing real problems as human beings." A HAS waist-length brown hair, pulled into two pony tails on either side of her narrow face.

Even when she laughs, she is very serious. She doe sn 't like to talk about herself, partly because the Movement does not need a cult of personality, partly because 'personal goals have to be subordinated to global priorities challenging the hypocrisy of a lot of institutions." Also, because of those reasons, she doesn't talk about personal goals. "What I want to do has been unanswerable. It ha always been what kind of person I want to be. I want to realize freedom in my own life." WHEN ASKED if men resent her in her job, Pat vehemently responded, "I refuse to compete; I'm opposed to the whole ethic of compeition.

It separates people. "A person really grows as a result of the things be discovers himself, as a result of his own experiences, not as a result of competition." Pat is very deliberateher answers, her informal talk, sound planned, well thought-out. She doesn't doubt that her concerns are important. SHE IS ENGAGED, but her marriage probably will be very different from the little-girl dream of a mansion in the suburbs, a color TV and Girl Scout meetings. "Men have a lot of power over their wives.

If a man is transferred and has to move to another town, his wife goes, too, even if she has a job she likes. "One solution to marriage problems is making the family structure more democratic." CHILDREN, too, and the way they are brought up are important. "It's not a very happy prospect," Pat said, "to think that having children means creating niore a ti vist for the Movement. "I'm not for the first mo' ment degrading motherhood or womanhood, but I criticize the sacrifice a woman makes to repudiateheroWnself worth." One of the problems, in her Opinion, is that many women enjoy their positions of dependency on men. "I'VE ATTENDED lots of meetings in which I watch women continually taking second place, letting men assert themselves.

That is as much a danger to the men as to the Movement itself." 'The women have good things to add, and by remaining silent are hurting the creative growth of the Movement, she said. "It's a mistake to look upon the women's liberation movement as self-seeking females. Rather, it is women addressing the problem of trying to be human in society." Why do both men and women fer male company? Why do we have to get married? Why do we have to have children? Why aren't women paid the same wages for doing the same work as men? Why would anyone think we would want a cigarette of our own? Why do women distrust each other? Why are our problems considered insignificant, or at least secondary? Consequently women compete with one another for the best clothes, most alluring make-up, biggest home. They become jealous of one another, causing a split among women. "Little girls," Miss Rector said, "spend their time trapping a boyfriend.

Mothers weep because their daughters didn't get invited to the prom." PROBLEM: The goals women's liberation seeks are about as easy to obtain as true racial integration. The issue is not so much legislation as it is education and redevelopment of attitudes and mores. Gee Barringer, a member of. the Dayton group, is trying to combat the problems, subtly, in her own home. She compliments her daughter, she says.

for real achievements, not for getting all dressed up on Sunday. She wants her to realize that other things may be as rewarding as dancing lessons. "The total society is being dehumanized," she said. She believes the movement and women's liberation can help. who is in a minority in her field, sympathizes with a woman's desire to get out of the home.

But, she said, "Family life is primary and foremost. We cannot chain women to the home, but they still should not work when they have very small children. "WOMEN'S LIBERATION is a two-edged sword. I am afraid we will get too far from the family unit." What women's liberation wants goes much far By CANDY KANES, Daily News Staff Writer As a group of women stand outside a large hall in Atlantic City, N. carrying anti Miss America pageant picket signs, a Dayton housewife stands in her kitchen, a baby in one arm, stirring a pot of spaghetti sauce.

The Atlantic City women obviously are not candidates for the 10 best-dressed women award Neither do they want to be. The Dayton housewife, also looking very little like a candidate, retains that dream of being selected, deep in her almost-subconscious. The first are members of a hard-to-define movement concerned with women's liberation. "WOMEN'S LIBERATION is beginnin maybe, to be a national movement," a Dayton advocate said. It has grown out of the civil rights and peace movement because in working toward social justice, movement women began to realize they couldn't free others until they themselves were liberated.

Stokely Carmichael, in response to a paper on the position of women in the Student Non-Violent Coordinating committee, said, "The only position for women in SNCC is prone." THAT STATEMENT IS perhaps the best summary of what women's liberation is fighting. The 12 women in Dayton's month-old women's liberation group are all involved in other social action groups. Five of them are married. "We're not against men or anything like that," one member said. "We want a more humanistic life for men and women." Women's liberation means a protest against women being treated merely as sexual objects, a struggle for an identity, a striving to be human and equal.

THERE ARE MANY women's liberation groups in the country, all loosely tied together by common goals, all employing different tactics. The Dayton group, nameless, is still organizing, reading, researching. Its priorities are the liberalization of abortion laws, rewriting of equal wage and credit laws arid improvement of the conditions in state correctional institutions for women. The National Organization of Women, sometimes called "moderate and matronly," advocates many of the same things. Women, it says, should determine for themselves what part they will take in society.

WOMEN'S International Terrorist Conspiracy from Hell that becomes an acronym witch engages in the more radical actionsbra burning, picketing the Miss America pageantand tells women, "If you are a woman and dare to look within yourself, you are a witch. You make your own rules, you are free and beautiful." Many other groups rescnt the radicalism. A Dayton woman said, "We are subjected to the untreedom of other people. Women with a skill are subordinated to men because men say they cannot take orders from a woman." But not all women know they are oppressed. A 21-year-old housewife, Marjorie Miller, said, "Sometimes I feel I'm missing things by being married.

But before, when I went out, it was with the goal of meeting someone. "MARRIAGE IS everything to me." She worked for four years before marrying and now, with a two-month-old daughter, Lauri. doubts she will ever return to work. Women's liberation advocates contend that housewives are too often wasting their talents and skills: If they want to get out and work, there should be national child care centers for their children; and, if they work, they say their husbands should share the household duties. "WE ARE CHANNELED into roles so subtly that we aren't aware of it," Pat Rector, a Dayton liberation group member, said.

What results is that men hate to step out of their roles, women out of theirs. Dr. Laura Pollack, a gynecologist-obstetrician, SOME 'UNAWARE' OF MOVEMENT Aren't They Ilappy? Man in the Street Asks asserted somewhat by the fact a woman chooses a career over 4 4.1 Charles Seheidler By LARRY KINNEER Daily News Staff Writer "Most men are aware of a women's liberation movement, but at the same time are reluctant to admit it." This opinion by the chief psychologist at the University of Dayton's Guidance center was reflected in interviews with men in downtown Dayton only by their concessions that women want to change their role in society. Some of the men insisted they were unaware that women needed to be liberated, but most carried the attitude, "Aren't they happy now?" THE MEN interviewed, ranging in age from 20 to 65, invariably turned however, to the role of the woman in marriage and then to the woman who wants a career. A 26-year-old man said he preferred that his wife stay at home, and that any wife should be somewhat subservient and dependent upon the husband.

"Today a lot of men expect their wives to work," a man who is 63 said: "Mine doesn't want to. But I still have to fight the old idea that a woman's place is in the home." In regard to women's demands for equal rights, a 20-year-old man explained, "They are particular about what they want this equality in. They still want the chivalry and expect the treatment accorded women by men." ANOTHER MAN said, "Certainly I feel women are equal, but I feel the wife's role is doing the work in the home." A 23-year-old man, whose wife works part time, said, "A woman's got the same rights I've got undoubtedly, all people don't feel the same way I do. That's probably the reason for the movement." One man admitted caring for the children while his wife worked at night, but he refused to wash the dishes. "That's my wife's job." And a man who has been married four months said, "women's liberation sounds like people trying to start something new SDS I think women just want to do things they haven't been able to before, just to say they can do them." Dr.

Charles Scheidler, the psycholo1st, said, "women are not happy with their role as a housewife. As our society advances, weencourage women to get a higher education: yet, when this is accomplised, they are relegated to the home and the daily tasks of the housewife. "IT COULD BE," he said, "that men feel women are in a secondary role even in education." Discussing the woman who doesn't do much of the work on the home front. "They've had a taste of the mans world and want to remain active in it," he said. While most men refuse to recognize openly the liberation movement, many women are opposed to this recent effort for more equality, according to Scheid ler.

"They are satisfied with their roles in the home. Also, this movement has created many more problems than it has solved for women. "One of the great problems today is that society has been steadily moving from a partiarchal society to a matriarchal one. 'r definitely headed this way, but have not yet arrived. "SINCE WE are in a period of change, there is this confusion on the part of men and women as to the proper role they must assume.

"A powerful human emotion is the male ego and, although not expressed, the working woman is ade I in ite threat to this male ego. "Any time a woman enters into job competition with the man, even if it is a wife returning to work after the children are grown and out of The home, there is a threat to the male ego." The attitude of "becoming free" is Scheid ler said he agreed with this "have my cake and eat it attitude." explaining that women are going to have to sacrifice these little extras and niceties if they want to be accepted as equals. HE SAID he believes that chivalry as such was "phasing out." "There is more of a liberal attitude among the younger men. They are softening in their thinking on the liberation of women. "And we will see increasingly more of this in each succeeding year.

As to whether there will ever be a balance or harmony between the two, where each sex is satisfied, we can only hope so. "Until such a time there will be this confusion of roles." MANY MEN, Scheid ler asserted, "may express their belief in equality for women, yet they are not necessas ily sincere." Moreover, he was surprised by the mildness of the intervie ed men's replies. "I would think they would be more outspoken, stressing that the woman should definitely remain in the home," he said. want the role of the housewife, Scheidler cited a definite increase in the number of women who want careers. It started, he said, with women's suffrage and was further encouraged by World War II, waeo Wien had to A i 1.