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THE TIMES, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2, 1916. Parliament VOTES FOB SAILORS AND SOLDIERS. THE COJC5JONS ON THE REGISTER BILL. ENEMY BUSINESSES. iegatives.

Wh regard to the second part we are Germany in the hands of ths UiuW States Ai sador at Berlin. doute TthTScyrS. "Sort and if that wu so waa not this fm about VISCOUN GREY'S RECENT SPEECH. viriom luroKH, including ffcwush ed Swedish, HOUSE OF LORDS. Nov.

1. The Lobd Chaxcruor took his seat The Defence of the Realm (Acquii Bill, brought from the other House, i THE CASE OF MISS HOBHODSE. Kfi LORD LATYMER asked what action ment intended to take in resard to Mil in respect of ber action in visiting Germany having obtained a passport to Italy. He CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR' AT THE ADMIRALTY. uinriHmi uhn waa asked bv SlB H.

Dalrdxl (Kirkcaldy. if Rrnest Walter Dickea. who was employed by the Admiralty at A salary of 485 par nl, and who recently PPered before tte Lambeth Tribunal as a conscientious objector, was the ne Brneat Walter Dickea who. when oeptwy eaamer Portsmouth Dockyard, was ordered to leave that LeJd nut of the Question, Mr. Dicks was tried at the OoTern I Military Authority on a charge of having a HoMaa.

crtiflct posseasioe, and. sfter the case nnany after Military Authority issued a notice prohibiting Mr. a naamort to italv. He did not Dickea from remaining in UM neignoournooa OI ronr think it would be denied that Miss' Hobhouae had mouth. As regards thelast part of the been guilty of an offence against the law the offence Dickea has been retained because, aftaccarrful review service.

He is, 1 should say, an estlished Civil that thejwiui known as comfomn; tl been a certain shiinking of responsibility part. The MARQUESS CREWE replied I of herv activrtiea had been mischievous and against He is now employed in the Accountant General's De Ihe public interest. The Oovernment were aoviseo paruneni kHS from of deceased sailors. He of the law. and.

that being so. he understood that was exempted as a conscientious objector by the it was not proposed to take any proceedings Lambeth Tribunal, subject to the proviso that he ber. Miss Hobbouse was not likely to be permitted should undertake work which, not being under mili Jeavc England again ed the tribunal that they could not recommend any work of national importance more useful for the prosecution of the war than that in which.be is at present engaged, the Defence of the National Importance have informed tl the country of a hostile belli a regulation undei Realm Art which osmst without specific leave of the British authorities. The KARL of DESARTT inquired whether, in viei Fnnim Office irave snecial LlsSMrstl application for a passport to Italy. LORD COURTNEY aiserted that when Miss Hob of Europe, snd ing up.

she ascertain something crave misunderstanding ner way back from JtaJy been a noble act of suprwos carried out the" intention which she had declared when offence. rould have been thought necessary by the Foreign dime ulty ahouTpermittiug ler to'viait IUJy. Whsflisr t.ho had been guilty of a auppnmvo veri he would GERMAN BANKS IN ENGLAND. LORD HTLTON, repryia on behalf of the Government to an inquiry by Lobs Lattxee as to when the Deutsche Bank would be floaUy closed, said that at first sight it waa rather curious that, after 26 or 27 months of war. the Deutsche and other similar banks i.

o.wHi.wu was owing oy Allied, or neutral creditors. those banks to British, Dickea from military service, and the question of his Sib H. Dalztri, gave notice that he would call attention to this matter. ENEMY PROPERTIES IN NIGERIA In reply to Mr. Laaunt Scott (Liverpool Exchange, yesterday.

He aid not tmn mat any usenu pur oosp would he served bv a discussion as suggested by his hon. friend, but if there was any general desire facilities for it, tine's, Mr. Bokar Law added that he was not aware of any disquietude about the conditions of sale, but if there was a general desire to discuss the matter be was sure the Prime Minister would make arrangements for such discussion. Commander Wedgwood (Newcastle under Lyme, asked enemies' properties in Nigeria and thereby establish (Dublin University) asked if the right hon. gentleman did not think it important that the House should once and for all settle whether these properties, which were derived from winding up German businesses, le would discuss it with fa Replying to a further question from Mr.

Lrsltb Scott. Mr. Bonab Law said any British company which was not acting on behalf of enemy interests EXEMPTIONS IN BANKS. to colonel croft (Unrurtcnurcn, men accepted Cor the advisory committee. at banks and insurance offices that, in view of the increasing demand for men for the Army, existing agreements must shortly be subject to revision.

A claim in the City of London fog the employees, and in such cases the exen parts of the country. Mr. FORSTER, answering Mr. Ltnch (Clare, Nat), who asked whether the vote in reference to conscription in Australia waa begun hut not terminated among Australian troops now stationed in I nderstand thathevotiayrwas Saturday, October sf The bon.WmembeT wiUaliw naval and military situation. Mr.

Lyhoh also asked torn up and other votes substituted for them. Forster. I am not aware of that. I do not that the War Office is concerned with it. Mr FORSTER, replying to Mr.

OwrarwArrn them to vote for Uken by direction of the subject said: know nothing of such War Office was not consulted on WOUNDED SOLDIERS AND INSURANCE. Mr. ASQCTTH (Fife, E.J, replying to Mr. Wnra (Durham, Houghten le Spring, who asked whether he was aware that insurance companies "tty for MsSE insurance for returned that soldiers did not to this matter, but their results do not bear out the S5S Mr. Ashlry (Blackpool, asked how it was possible' that vaat sum had now been, paid off, or provision for Bona Law said the provisions in the conditions of payment had Been made.

He was advised that under made eery effort, and he believed successfully compiitoory winding up wdertbe repayment lof Na, no to secure that the property should not operate under licence to a ceMain extent to carry out reavment time waa essential and the you consider xn offer by a British company to take Denartment was concerned, tended to cause delay in sfi.ion hH in lttcr from th nroceedinas. It waa mapoesfble to state when the th chnirmn tK Imnk referred to would be finally closed, but on African Committee, sending him copies of Sir E. Whalf of the Treasury he gave an assurance that ail canon's questions and saying that if the conditions IKMible. preto form a Company. The subject was oi The House rose at 10 minutes past 6 o'clock, ha vine would be much better to deal with in debate thi appreciate the fact that one great advantage of adjourned until Tuesday (Liverpool HOUSE OF COMMONS.

would the oreater Govern ment control for the purpose of ensuring for the The Spkakbu took the Chair at a quarter to 3 o'clock. THE CASE OP MISS HOBHOUSE. all Britfch natives a fair price for their produce. No "FRIGHTFTJLNESS" IN CAMEBOON. In reply to Sir W.

Essex (Stafford, Mr. Bona (Shropshire, jnMUted. or whether she was to be protected by high noilce discovered than the usual GERMAN EAST AFRICA. Answering 8m E. Corxwaix (Bethnal green, by the Germans a few days beff la, and a large number of Dualaa must Ixs given pf the question.

PRISON CAMPS IN GERMANY. i fmmje nSHSS. bwa LAwsaid that the German Emnreas had received in Berlin in German East Africa had not altered materially six Russian nurses and six Danish gentlemen who since his statement on October 58. An experienced endeavour to secure a similar inspection of camps in civil administration in those parts of the conquered Toe answer to the first part of the question' is in the operations. MALTED MILK MADE IN ENGLAND A Great Factor in Food Economy.

Pure, full cream milk 'enriched with all the nutritive extracts of selected malted barley and wheat in powder form. Even particle is wholesome nourishment, it keeps indefinitely, and there is absolutely no waste. The addition of hot or cold water instantly forms a delicious food beverage so highly nutritious and so easily digested that it advantageously replaces heavier items of diet which require more digestive effort, yet at the same time it supplies fuller nutritive value. It is therefore economical in all respects and suits all ages. READY IN A MOMENT IY STIRRING BRISKLY NOT OR COLD WATER ONLY.

NO COOKING REQUIRED. Accept mo substitute. There is nothing "just as good." NO ADVANCE IN PRICES In Sterilised Glass Bottles, and keeps indefinitely, ISt 26 and the Tablets abo in convenient Pocket Flasks at 6d. and 1. each.

Also in Ration Tins for the Expeditionary Forces. THE IUC Liberal Sample of either powder tablets scat post free for 4d. in HORLICK'S MALTED MILK CO. SLOUGH. BUCKS.

refusing to take back men partially incapacitated, and whether something would be done to remedy brought to his notice. ENEMY PROPERTY AND THE TERMS OF PEACE. the Prime Minister whether it was intended iha" the millions held for Germans by the Public Trustee tiH for Germany in the terms of peace and, if so, of enemy property at present in the hands of the custodian and of British property in the hands of consideration in connexion with the terms of peace, but it would not be in the public interest to make any statement at the present time as to the precise propose that the matter should be dealt with. SIR E. CARSON (Dublin University) asked for in Germany were treated in the same way, and Mr.

AQcrrH promised to inquire into the matter. ZEPPELIN RAIDS AND INSURANCE. Replvinz to Sir E. Corvwat.i. rifethnal.mum.

N.E., L), who asked whether insurance against injuries or loss of life due to Zeppelin raids could be said: I am much obliged to my hon. friend for putting this question, which enables me to correct a misstatement which, owing to a misunderstanding, I made in an answer I gave him on October 18. I injuries on loss jot life under tha Government scheme. This, of course, is not the case. In the opinion of the Government ample facilities already exist in the open market TRADING WITH THE ENEMY.

Owtxsb (Eastbourne, said Permission has been behalf of British subjects and of similar fees in this country on behalf of enemies, and also for the payment of freight and other necessary charges in order to enable British owners of cargo on an enemv ship lying in a neutral port to obtain posaession of such cargo. Licences to import epecined goods of enemy origin have been issued when it Was clearly to the control of a receiver lor debenture holders, who was the'rder wu made under the" Trading with the SIR H. DALZIEL asked whether the former London stands. You "have really referred the whole Con New Jersey, which was. or had been, connected with Committee, that very little attention would be paid THE PRESENT REGISTER.

entirely German. tight bos. gentleman's Question is in the afflrma SIR H. DALZIEL. Is it not the case that you can prohibit coods coming from an enemy firm in America if you wish Mr.

Rck cmak. This question tarns on what is an enemy firm. That doss not rest with exactly The question LAPSED ASSURANCE POLICIES. Mr. RUNCTMAN, replying to Majob.

Hcnt, who asked whether 2,312.000 assurance policies had been lapsed by the Prudential Assurance Company alone during the last two yean, and that he would have an noliriea and on th ArtTl uf ssidfThe SfS't hSTSui Act. 1914, said: The figure given in the hon. and gallant gentleman's question is in accordance with the particulars appearing in the published reports of the Prudential Assurance Company (Limited), except that in the ordinary branch, and I am informed by the company that it also includes policies which have been I understand1 that two thirds of tbTlapsed issued and policies had been in existence less than a year, and three quarters less than two years. As the hon. and gallant member, is aware, the Courts (Emergency Powers) Act prevents the lapsing of industrial policies for amounts not exceding 25, on which premiums have been paid for two years, without the consent of MAJOR HUNT.

Is the rhrht hon. re tie man ware that instructions have been issued to agents of this that the old policy lapses and the insur on the old policy Mr. Ruxctmah. I was rare of the instructions having been issued. If m.

and gallant member will give particulars of will have them inquired into. Mr. Booth. is honouring its policies with regard to soldiers an so. and is making gratuitous payments Mr.

Runciman. I don't know the amount of the te they are making allowances. 7 THE CASTNER KEI.LNER ALKALI COMPANY. Mr. RUNCDtAN, answering a question by Sm H.

auonx, said: In reply to an invitation to submit evidence of their ability to manufacture synthetic indigo if they desired to tender for the Port Ellesmere ted) informed the Board of Trade that after full, consideration they had decided not to tender. I have no knowledge as to their reasons for this decision, nor as to any arrangements between that company and Messrs. Levinstein for the supply of phenyl glycin. 'no interest in the Port Ellesmere pany (Lim Work. THE Sir H.

Dauokl (Kirkcaldy, whether he still way a British company, said he had inqu ired Into this and as far as he could holders and directors as agents for the sale of American motor cars. or no Mr. Prettmah. Yes, i believe it is. I was led into the mistake cot a very serious one by knowing that the business of the.

concern was the sale of American motor cars. Sir H. Paxziel. absolutely untrue Mr. Prettmax.

information I have been able to a uaxztei aaxe rurtner inquiries. PUBLIC BUSINESS. (Thursday) would be the Committee stage of the Prevention of Corruption Bill and the Trading Government did it off their own bat, ovatrmtog the Far mr awn Dart, in these cannot do anything for the soldiers and sailors fighting at the front. I reallv hardly understand why we should go on with the BUL (Hear, hear.) Why makeshift measure is put forward. (Hear, hear.) I should like to ask this question.

Why were we told, antry to record their present moment. With regard to the technic of the ill I know very 1 i tt le about them, and tSJlIouse cares that principle is excluded from the Bill. So far as I am co method of registration, to set a Committee of able experienced election agent on both aides to work it out between them. and I think it would be worthy namely, that wu shaUhe wai tat the same poaiuon a. we should have been it Mr.

Speaker's ruling to had been the same as it waa taitagust lssST TWO WAYS OF DOING IT. to get a decision of the House on that point. The question is. What is the beat way of doin? it introduce, which is to amend the Ballot Act. shsuid of that BUL In one way or the othsT the thing more to my right hon.

and learned friend, but I hope one or other of them will commend itself to him. I am quite prepared to adopt it. I will leave Uu' my right hon. friend, and those who advise him. Mr.

BAWUNSON (Cambridge University Would not a Bill for the express purpose be man on the present register. The present register is so oW BOW that we really have no authority at all to represent the country. We nominally represent it. wo the country I think is open to a great deal of doubt, SIR E. CARSON.

For my own part I (Hear, hear.) In regardto the point now under prefer a Bill. (Cheers.) That reatf consideration, I think the proper course would business. As regards going on with this Bill Mr. ASQCTTH. I do not.

care which way it b. done. I would leave that rather to be sugg i by my right hon. friend and those who adrbc him S2 ad arrant j2ft5jZ3 TTihe queatm who would be qualified to vote if they were not do, what they are doing as to that there is no of opinion whatever. 8IR E.

CARSON. Does that apply to those fenftaj in France as well? we should not go oi is." Oh This is has got the report of the Speaker's Committee, in a oroat Bill aettlme an ouestiona of franchise Mr. PRINGLE was surprised that the right hon. and learned gent leman had not insisted on the withdrawal of the Bill in order that the Government might introduce another with the title drawn in such a way aa to make it possible for the House to enfranchise all the soldiers and sailors who were fighting for their country. The Government had presented a wholly inadequate Bill, and he asked whether in the the Committee discussion.

(Hear, hear.) Colonel the whole There is an attempt in this Bill to set up parti qualifications for soldiers and sailors and what an The Prime Minister misunderet. that they stand on quite a di ixed up tegetfi r. circumstances it the Committee dia impression. At the eleventh hour the whole aspect of the Bill had been changed, and it waa therefore that war workers stood in a different potkn reasonable that progress should be reported. soldiers and sailors in thia matter, because having regard to the ruling of the Chair, made upon Prime Minister to say on the second ading.

flWnftjfl SIR SIMON. TTthey stand, in hi. Committee were assured that the Government would ln the same position. As i they stood in th brine te such a Bill the meaamebeiorethemxould be position it was surely quit that h. deait with as a mere Registration Bill to be incor on y1 wbh proprisea porated in the new lection.

If this course were a snenal register of people until they had bring in such a Bill the i dealt with as a mere not token aa regards the merit of the question by the poopl? were and the Government, they would stond in an absolutely sremed quite possible different nosition from that in which thev stood what date the register before. A what date it House aboukl put the register. Therefore, it seeaied I Pbtngle movod to report progress, declaring that 'Xetlx. and Sir, II. Dalziel supported the SIR J.

8IMON (Essex, Walthamstow. in based on the ground that they were fighting and that they had in their past history happened to satisfy oh the view that 'acilitie ought not to I limited of British owned goods in enemy countries has I and ain LoHSDak authorixed in certain special cases. Paymente to Fermanagh. in ucs have been allowed in certain other cases in retbW A QUESTION TO THE GOVERNMENT. SIR CARSON said he desired again to put te question whether, having regard to the ruling of the House in the same position as thev were before by bringing in a Bill in which it would be possible to raise the question whether soldiers and sailors mment were not prepared at the mo ut into the same position as belere, he would vote favour of the motion.

Mr. ROWLANDS (Dartford. and Mr. E. CECIL gree to report Mr ll not do anything for the soldier as such, jkfchc nastiest 1 he given a qualification he was not given Ihs of those Mr.

ASQI ITU. I cannot accept the that this Bill does not effect a very large ment of soldiers and sailors and war workers generally. Mr. LOUGH. The Speaker ruled the opposite.

Mr. ASQCTTH. I express my opinion for what with that of my right hon. friend, that thi Bill does effect a very large enfranchisement of those in wh. in we are particularly intorted.

namrly, IhSM mho are doing war work, either in the field or in factory. But in view of all that has been sak: of the perhaps rather unexpected ruling from Chair, I agree that it is desirable that we HhouM st to a distinct issue this question of qualilin' I shall be quite prepared to accrpt the ssstinn reptirt progress (hoar, hear), with the view of swrki aa I hope, in consultetion with memben all tl circumstances trading as to justify a relaxation of the prohibition igidly enforced. THE WINDING UP OF ENEMY FIRMS Answering Mr. MacVeauh (Dosn. 8., Mr.

the Trading orders have been made under sect with the Enemy Amendment Act. 1916, are pul Ilshed from time to time in the London Gazette and i Partial very great deal of time and labour to furnish parti i 344 cases in which orders have been made. Mr. McKXNNON WOOD (Glasgow. St RoHox, LA, reolvinr to Sin J.

Dolohbrtt (Londonderry, who asked whether Mr. H. Stanley Smith, a junior been accepted subsequently aa a recruit for the Royi offered to Civil servants in the Treasury circular of August 20, 1814. or at least have a promise of re said: As I have already explained right insUtement in his office at the close of the belonged responsible for the collection of some hundreds of national work by shortage of appropriate staff. This referred to by my right hon.

friend, make any definite promise in such ci duties of a junior clerk months in the service of the Inland Revenue, and that Cries of Sir E. Carson. What about authority I No further answer was green. ENEMY BUSINESSES. Mr.

RUNCIMAN (Dewsbury. replying to Major int Shropshire. Ludlow. said: The Tradin winding up orders are made, came into operation on January test, and the first order thereunder was made on February 24. Many of the hnstii is have already been practically wound up.

there should I of the Act of provides that "an order made under the termination of the present war, until rlntSf Issil by order of the Board of Trade. fclH B. CARSON. Could the right hon. gentleman say bow many German firms have been actually and finally wouud up Sin H.

Daunax (Kirkcaldy Riuciman said: An order tor the winding up of the SPECIAL REGISTER BILL POSITION OF SOLDIERS AND ff, SAILORS. MR. ASQITITH INTERVENES. Mr. ASQCTTH.

I am sorry that through pressure nechanical part of the work which fi duties I have risked re 'would been able ha? arin upon the ruling that the duestioi is called the soldiers' vote cannot be raised under thi which there was no chance of settling. On the order of the day for the Committee stage mittee. Now I wish to make it clear if I cB and I i "jgj Jhi i of the Special Register Bill a Government measure am oniy repeating what was said by my noble friend Mteisiaf hadaur'ed the right hon. I. making provision for framing a Special Register of Uiord Ljnsdowne in another place a few weeks ago gentleman opposite that he would consult lw.

Electors the Speaxbr ruled all the pro nosed in i that so far as the Government are concerned they are I confer with him and arrange what should fee I structions on the paper out of order. Among these i most anxious to devise a means, if means can be found. fj. tb nt Pl 5 'fMsal. in the name of Colonel Faze Croft i to enable not but munition i 7 7i i instruction to tne Committee that they have power and an acUve part active in the sense of recording The report of the money resolution autV.r i iking of provision tor increased i Ores Master, wddiers and sailors who are serving Forces, apart from any other of the Bill he indicated that the of the Sfbkkr said that, while it was tr possibly be raised by way of instruction, he had been ifSajSjS produced, qitTagrew'ithhoee who thinkhal n1 regard to munition workers who liave i i are.

serving tV equaUy I tebulary was agreed to, and Mr. ction in i thoy from votintf would not be. and could not be. recalled on that occasion, and be was now of opinion that 3" TliT LL ISrA'l 1' could oiJy be done by an amendment of the Franchise tbf circumsUnces would Popls who The House then went Into Committee on the Bill, wf JrifT J. rf, 7 or adequate reflection of the opinions of the British A Practical Pbobudc It is a practical problem, and a problem which the Electors).

Mr. DICKINSON (St. Pancres, raored, on the Bill was only for elections to be held during the war. The BUI. as it stood, was a permanent Bill Government are most anxious to "Jl'wtochiisetmwoulir be the one on dk.

and aoilora. and munition which the new Pariiament after the war would be WOuki be qualify if they were not do kt election tool place we had a ne a totally new system, and he sa it should not be. (Hear, hear.) Mr. LONG (Strand, said the object of the about that result. As another of recording their vt brouaht in the Bill, which The Rouse went Into Committed (Sib K.

Hvn, in the Chair) on the money resolution to sjtath the making of provision to nv et the expert s) the Registration of Business Names Bill. Government in pi only hon, gentleman that we ought to have a satisfactory register of a comprehensive character founded on new lines for the election after the war. It waa not the Bill that was so bad. but that the extremely complicated systems of franchise and registration rendered it impossible for then to be On the motion for the adjournment of tM Ma Mr. PHJN'GLR called the attention of the Fk 1 Secretary to the War Office to th rvfuaU of a to Mra.

Annie P. Douriaa. the widowed wy ion. but it has been ruled outside the scope of this Watch (who died of wounds in Mesopotamia), Carson), when he called attention to the conditions her sopport. He thought this condition re under which munition workers, returiwd soldiers.

I war dependence penalised those parents which we propnae al who are qualified to record their vote. It would safranehiss a large number of the man who were fighting for us, and. as such, he though it deaerreT the support of the House. No, As to the amendment, the Government had no desire te make the BiD the permanent law of the land and he had an anMndment down to Clause 3 limit the operation SIR E. CARSON AND THE SPEAKER'S RULING.

SIR E. CARSON (Dublin Uaiver.it y). Although the subject is sot so geilaae to this particular amendment, I think tt is convenient that at an early stage we shosSi review the poaitioa as we now find VkST Hk, oar A great deal aasrs, such, with yasJsWtiosi of service. sd rsssty worth uiUwti tZst Ihs Go amendment of the Ballot Art children. He thought it would be found that r.

i kmforthocaaea. W. are not the Statutory CsMs wa. not eatitled to ks but ws are anxious in the BiU any grant, and he contended that to meet ca also to make pnreWosi which which tivrr were pre war dependents or imnv sailors, and munition worker. ths Wor Offiss ought tm sjm K.

Careon) rrfsrredbaSTto tfffiSsl wtth a vyw namHy. the to a isiusssi of ths rutss mid down to ths eartr tiTvarSvreJh. ZJTUZ W. PORSTKR (Ksaa. fievea ka.r.

cSaithr trtif SIB K. CARSON. It is not easy answer a IfiZct Committee appointed by the Horn. word If the right hon. gentleman Bkea.

I will bxipoawble for thenar Offie. te depart from StnefrarteT IF aoldier. and aaik.r, which, of coaree. i. que a ddTe EtZdZZTuZtZ nos ffi EFmZ tt August.

I mTaelf prsvioso to that had pot a oweatioa iTZl ahouUi the ruling of the Spanker. HOOGE JfJWj f. UMjjj Mr. AHQI ITH. It was not for as to decide.

1 op MR K. CARSON. I understood tmm to he ths fwroa, ssWWimr stated ths there wssoSseody; intention of be Government. cases of diss want, Mr. sxmrrmt at oaws uaaUrf PaJOAaJSnrTaJrV SOTSBBS.

Mr. AHQCrTH. Certainly..