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10 THE TIMES; TOUBSDAY, 'DECEMBER 9, 1880. IRELAND. TSt LAND AGITATION. DUBLIN, DkI. The Lead Leant rtmdattla its eampaira lb north with eooeiderehl skill, iU poiste ef attack being wU ib ana.

and lu tncnoM end rroeewdingt taodifiadto Vwd aa tar aa pOaaiUt treading I eonScWaC or prsj 4mm ef Um people of ClUr. Itan is a tee la lUt ipwdw quite different from that which prevails (a ether parti ot tbe rout try, with the view of tooeilitUng not only tb Presbyterian liberals, lot tbe Orange party. Yesterday at alacbrra. coty Vrrj, there waa a larrely attrtxlrd tat stiag, il baing atarUt dsy, im many farxeere being aaxioee to ee tome of th Land League itadeit, Mr, Dillon. MJV.

lb Bar. Isaac Nalaoa. MJ, end Mr. lUgger, MJ. ettaWd a depwtetioa.

Mr. John M'Ke was ap pointed lUuau. He hoped, be aaid, the day would pea by la peace aad order, to that no baadl weald be rivea tb Tory party to mt they wn a disloyal mopl. ity ami slaiasr 1 their eww right. Aku the letter which were read ware tba following from tM Attorney Uecatrel tad Sir Tboma tba county members 9, Fttxwiniam wiuare, Doe.

1. 18S0. MDoar Sir, In reply to your letter of tba 29th of November, rrqurating bm to attend a Laad League demon etratiea at Maghrra, on tbe 7th bar to aay tbat I or rea ona bkb 1 feel afraid will oa farther coaaidaration be itrwat to yourself, it will I quit impoaaibl for me to comply wuo seen request. no respect to your expression of a confident hope that I bare not lost tba strong rtgard or uia wicu( toe khii lermert auca pfoleseed last spring end at other tuota, I take tba liberty of adding that 1 unreservedly abide I and am fully prepared to act oa all such preftwione, whether made among my friend in luecoumj bonvjumerry or eiseancre. A snort time nil! enow uu.

1 remain, dear Sir, yours very truly, n. lIw St. Stetiben rreen Club. Dublin. Dml 1.

lftSfl Dear cUr, I ha rrceiicd your letter of tba 29th ult. ma to a Bxetiuc to be held at llacbera oa the int. As I bate to ba in Edinburgh oa that day I could uio meeunt, ana i must canleaa 1 could sot join oMirvuii, kn aaw turn ausptcea ua LoaflM. aa propoaitiou I ha re beta put forward by them which 1 oaaaot aupport or eouuUaaiioa by attendance at the meat iBf. You claim my support aa alteration in the laad laws in farour of the tenants.

I am endearouring to pro wum iw ocuera ue ue mon eneciual manner. Ia company with other Liberal members for Mier i ieaeote4 a letter to the Chief breretery, siraed by all, putting before him our Tten aa tc what wa thoafht abould ba included in any U01 the Go. ecrameat may brinr forward. This letter will. I eresume.

tw pobliabed ia a tew Hays, and ao be ia your bands lefore im iui. i nope au ue inesxu ol the tesanta will aea their way to (ire a unanimous support to our suggestion. The Government bare great difficulties to contend with. a abould take care not to embarrass them, but give them our awirtanot in brincinx tba land auestion to a anvdr tuocoafol aettlemenu You addreaa ma aa a memtier of tba Government. I have not that iweitioa.

Lut as one of tba rrpreetntativea of the county I acknowledge my retpoo aibility to praas foe aa imnwdiate settle maul of the quee oi, mmi yours very truly, THOIU Tba first rraolntioo adopted rrpudited md dicliroed all feelings of animosity on account of difference of religion, and declared that with a Christian spirit they loved their brethren of all creeds. Uia second resolution was in tba following terms "That wa deplore tba few agrarian ouiragee max nave been eommitted recently, for which wa WMiacienUously saddle the harshness and cruelty of bad landlords and their agents, along with the recent action of the liousc of Lords and wa declare it to be our eonTietiaa that the enemies of the Land League are no mora Justified in aorunng that worthy association of the agrarian Crimea lately eommitted than ware the heroes of tba Ulster ball, sieUaat, in laying tbem on the ahouMers of Mr. JIr. Dillos.XLP., seconded the resolution. Ue expressed (Teat satisfaction at meeting the tenant far men of Ulster, and regarded that day aa the amine point in the bistorr of the great land movement.

Ba thought the reaolution was a vary proper one, because the landlord faction sought to turn the men ot Ulster against tba Laad League and its teachings by mi ut presentation and falsehood. They said throngh the lTta tbat the League taught the people of the South and West of Ireland to aatuainata their enemies and to practise outrage and robbery. (Cries of uey epreaa ueee aoclnnee In order to keep at a distance the association which they knew would overturn their power ia Ulater, as it had in Monster and Coosaugbt. And inea tcey raised the old demon of religious hatred, which bad abed the blood of good men in all the vales of Ulster, and they told the Protestants of Ulster that the League drew a distinction in the South Let ween Protestants and Catholic, and that thia movement was a movement of the Catholica against tba Protestant. (Cries of Ho." But was it not the fact that one of the first landlords whose power the League Lad to brave and break was a leading Catholic of tba South Some of the worst landlords whom they Lad faced lor the aakaofthe people were Lord Ken.

man ana oujers.wno paraaea UHmselvee as good Catholica. Vaa it not the fact that the League had in more than one inetaaee taken from a Catholio landgrabber the farm ha had taken from a Protestant and handed it tack to the Protestant! (Cheers.) Was it not the fact that a Protestant farmer from the county Heath came to the Land League offices last week sad pulliely thanked tie League for keeping the roof over hsa bed (Cheers.) This movement was not a movement which ask any man what religion be was urma ue uu any rcugion; it was a movement which awewed by threats, arahaU tarry off any hena or mule, ar My or ether atapaa, nveaey or ether property, or abell by threat, aaaat the earne to ba girta Bp ta them, or than malieioaaly dig Bp, tare up, out dawn, level, detaeliab, ec injure Ua lands or aroos growing ar arrerrd, or the walls, paling, bedgte, or other feaoea, or tba cattle, gooda, ar chattels of any other person ar parsons, are guilty of aaiaieanaaonr, subjecting tbea to imrsiaocsvest and etaar penalties. Any persoa who ahaU write, pabliah give any nsuea, lauar, ar Taniaga exciting er teodiaf ta eiciteaay rial or unlawful ate rally er eomUnation, or threatening any violence to person ar property, or demanding ammunition, money or other prenert. or re c. airing aay person to qait any emplorment, liable to the same ponUbmant a last above mentioned.

4. All persona aiding aad abetting others ia the eocnmiaiioa of aav of the above offeoeea are equal guilty and liaU ta the ponish asess aoove maBiioaaa. o. jui parsons wba by drum Aam, firing, abouting, ar any aigaal excite or promote, or attempt ta excite or promote, such nlaaful meetings are also guilty of a high misdemeanour paaiahable by fine aad imprisonment. 6.

Any persons who, by force ar threat, un law! ally impose on or tender to any person any oath or aoltmn engagement are guilty of a grave misdemeanour. puaiaoaue by fine aad impriaonmenL. 7. All maehdratea aad eoastablea are empowered and bound to arDrahaad. aitperat, aad oppose all persona to eniaced.

and mar call upon ana eomrnaacl all peraona who are ant diaabled by age or infirmity to assist them in to doing. 8. Any two magis trates ctv leg msonaUe cause to nupect any peraon to be guilty of aay such unlawful firing, aatembling, or appearing aa abovw enentioad, or of having beea at aay such unlawful assembly or of intending to to be, may and are required to summon Miore thea aay tuch person, and bind him over in his own reeognuaace to appear at the next aatue and to be of good behaviour ia the meantime and ia case of refusal such magistrates have power to commit inch person toraol. 9. Every magistrate has authority to stmimon any persoa within bla Jurisdiction whom ba thinks capable of giving material evidease at to any of the offenose specified in the first, fifth, and tilth paragraphs, and examine him or bar oa oath and bind aaeh peraon in recognisance to appear aad give evidence, and ou refusal to answer or to enter into recognisance, to commit tuch person to gaoL By hit Ex calleocy eommandYW.

E. Fomtijl Dublin Cattle, Dec. 1, 1880." Tbe powers of which the magistrates are reminded ia Mr. Fonter! circular are alto confirmed by tbe White boy Act, and they bare bean used in tome cases by the magistrates but the truth It that tbe maristrete. landlords, aad aeenta nu.

rally are panie atrickan, and do not venture to put tbe ordinary law ia force. Borne recent prosecution, brought by direction of tbe Attorney General one, for example, in Balliaaaloe, aad one this week in Sligo have broken down, and this bat a discouraging effect. Tbe magistrate feel a difficulty about treatinc the Land Laarue meetlnn aa tm. lawiai atatmouet, ana tut ma set the law ta a great measure inoperative. They also do not feel warranted in regarding the threat of Boycott at on which cocoes within tbe Act, aa it aoet not refer to violence.

Thit appears to be unreasonable, at Boycotting it a most effectual meant of intimidatioo. A special meeting of the Birr Land League waa held last night under the presidency of the Iter. Dr. Bugler, P.P., to condemn the conduct of Lord Roaae in proposing a resolution at a meeting of tbe Land Committee in Dublin a few dart aco deciarint? that the counter was in a ttate of anarchy. The chairman said he entertained tbe highest respect for hit Lordship, bat protested against bit making tuch a statement.

Hit own rent bad ail been paid and the neirhbourhood was never more Dcaeeable. A reso lution wa passed denying the truth of the statement, and one of tbe number present obaerved that bia lordship would have some reason to speak of the country being in a txate ox anarcny wnen ne woaia ne en area Urimth't valuation. A meeting of tbe County Clare United Land Lean, eem. posed of ISO delegate representing all the branches, was held yesterday, under tbe presidency of the Bev John who condemned tbe conduct of Lord Inchiquin and other magistrate who bad complained to tbe Government of the state or the country ana called lor coercive mass ares. He denounced tbe system of rack rentinc.

which, be said, the landlords wanted to turport. A butcher who was charged with buying the sheep of a Boycotted ftrmerctme forward aad stated that for all be possessed be would not break the rule of the League. Lie had erred through iaadvertenee and he promised not to offend again. Hia repentance and promise tared him from being Boycotted" himself. A resolution waa passed similar to one adopted br tbe Limerick lyand league, eauiag on their membert to do no buaJaeet with solicitors who sited for rack renting landlords.

The tenants on the estate of Colonel Joshua H. Conner. of Dunboden, near ilullingar, have presented an addreaa to bim expressing their detestation of the recent cowardly attempt on tbe life of his faithful steward their aincera regret that it should have tba effect of inducing bim to leave tbe country. It bat been gratefully acknowledged by Colonel Cooper, aad it it hoped tbat be will change hit iswinag ana nmaia in we socauiy. MH HtWttl.DK.

S. Thit moraiof a terrible tragedy was committed within a abort distance of Cookstowa. James llulbolland, a bailiff, was employed to execute a decree against David Gormley, a small farmer at Laugh Fay, about six miltt distant. Twa aasistaats of tba tradesman at whose tuit tba decree was issued aeoompaniad llulbolland, and, on arriving at' the house they were to visit, were stopped by a man, said to be Gormley, wba called upon Mnlholland to stand, and drawing a lint across the road, threatened to shoot bim if he dared to cross. If ulbolland, however, na heeding the challenge, advanced to put tbe decree la force, whan tbe demanded justice for the tiller of tbe toil at againit the man instantly raised bit gun and shot bim through the mm preseni neen enamed by a nefarious I near, aoaui wa instantaneous.

ina ooay was shortly and iniquitous law to rob tbe tiller of tba eoil of bis pro 1 roawi wiui we saaoioras nrstsnd pointed out the rente were at an unjust figure. What answer did they get Did one tingle landlord reduce hit sroiawnen xney xnea reason I jot one of them. Ue could abow them districts where the people were reduced to starvation, where thousands upon thousands of people paid their rente last November to a bate tee, rack renting laud lords, and taw their little children starring Uiere a month waa up. (Groans.) Ue could show tbem districts ia Coa naught where men who lst year drew OQfiUO or 125,000 in rent refused to subscribe il when their own tenantry were starring. (Groan.) Aad the relief committee of Dublin were obliged to sand down money which America aad Aus arsua naa tent to relieve toe people of Ireland.

For SO yean the people had been trying reason. Parliamentary agitation, and returning tenant right membert, bat what Lad they got I Nothing. They said, Naw let us try a aeuTeuauoe. wiu go to these landlords and offer them a just rent, aad if they do not give a oil receipt, thea we will pay nothing at all (Cbeert,) When the Land League started that policy first they were denounced as robbers in every form of foul language. But whet bad been the result? In several counties they had succeeded in bringing down the rente to a great extent.

Tbey Lad made landlords civil, which they never were before (enters) and in a good many districts, wherever tbe League bad not spread, be had been told by farmers that they found the greatest difference in tbe manner of tbe agent from what it used to be. (Cries of Vf trne "i The great point tbat tbe farmers of Ireland bad to learn waa that by strict and determined combination they could, aa long as they made a fair and reaaon able demand, insist upon it, and their combination could not be broken down. What they wanted to secure for the farmer of Ireland was a free Lome and free land, to emancipate him from the control of the landlord, to emancipate Lisa from tbe fear of rack rent. They wanted to enable bim to tit under bit. own roof, feeling that he wat a free man and lard of bit own domain 'as much as tbe highest landlord ia Ireland; and they wanted to enable him whan dying ta leave to bis children a happy home, and that Le might txar with him into another world tbe consolation that tlere wat no mtn who could turn out tbe little onet be had left behind.

(Laud cheers.) Tbe next reaolution declared tbat tbe London companies bad in various ways violated the charter upon which their estatel were granted to them, tuch at by rack renting, telling to private landlords, forcing tbe tenants to aiga away their property, restricting tbe right of free sale, and by adding to the rest when a farm ia sold, thus rraduallv filching away the property of the tenants and implored afterward! taken to Cookttown, and tbe police immediately proceeaca ie aamga ray arrets we persons lmpuaaied. At the ortb 'Wett 'Winter Atsizei, held at Oznagh yesterday, a leasehold farmer named Naugh wa found guilty of firing at bia landlord, air. Dudgeon, P. for Longford county, with intent to do grievous bodily barm, but acquitted of intent to murder. Jndge Lawton him to 2U years' pesal servitude.

The churchwardens of Christ Cborsh Cathedral, Water ford, telegraph to nt to statt tbat the bells of the cathedral were not pealed in ill. Pamell 't honour while ba wat la the city. Among many letters just received from membert of Parliament ia reply to appeals.ke., issued by tbe An ti Coercion of ilestrt. Kelph Creyke, JI.P. for York Sir.

W. 8. Caine. JI.P. for Scarborough and Mr.

Athtoa W. Dilke, P. for Newcastlr oa Tyne, show pretty clearly what tbe policy of the association is thought of by members oi ue Aovancea ajoerai party, air. rtajpo ureykt writes: I can only express my regret that, at a time like tbe present, your committee should have thought fit to embark oa en agitation which can' have bat one result mat oi ennarrasaing iier alajesty 1 Uo rem meet. Mr.

W. 8. Caine. in the course of bia lattex to tha boa. secretary of the aaaocittion, writes thus I am strongly opposed to coercion, and can tee no reason ta far why it should be resorted to but I cannot content to commit myself so entirely to anti coercion as to join your when you consider tba which arrears and tradesmen ia Inland are being subject! to by the advice of tbe Land League, a demonstration in a tborouehly Eazliah fashion'" Mr.

Aahton W. Dilke, M.P., aritet While gene rally agreeing with the riewt you express about Ireland, I feel confidence in tbe present Ministry, and till tbey have bad time to develop their plans I do not feel inclined to Join any aa socjation to assist tbe Uovernmest in a queatisn about which tbey mutt necessarily be better informed than we are. 1 pre suppoae and proclaim tbe existence of disunion in the Liberal party and in tbe Ministry aeemt to me to be tbe surest way of bringing them about. Tbe social ban knoau aa Bovcottinz baa been annliwt to six detachments of tbe Boy el Irish Constabulary in oiuercui par is vi areiano. TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES.

Sir, The Irish pa peri give tbe application of tbe tentntt of Sir Bicbard Wallace for a present abatement of CO per cent, and a permanent abatement of 25 per cent. It js I A Mn nl.F In 1G1 1 right. They have already two of tbe three F's fixity of rni i KBure auu irccuuiu wi aaie. lire tuiru lair rente llie Lroremment to assume the rights of the Crown and in I would seem to be tbeirt also by the price given for their tome just and equiUble manner make tbe tenants the I tenant right. Tbe rents on Sir R.

Wallace estate have always been reported as low, as this iric of tensnt rirht proves tbem to be yet bis tenants now demand that any an in prices suouia not lower ineir lenaut rigbt, but fall entirely on tbe rent. Thus the three F's will be no solution oi me cumcuity. our obedient servant, Bournemouth, Dec 7. OBANMOBE. TEX RITUALISTS jAND TBS LAW.

Ibt following jtiUoB baa ben addres to Ear ILtjaity ay sart. uej aa baoaiz at aer bnsband Tear Maiestr has rraeioualv TsmehaafMl ta Va. Iedga Uirough General fonaoaby, a letter which I took tba liberty of addreasing to Tear Majesty, benitgthat Your Majesty Would aea year Royal Prerogative to right Tour Mjettyi Secretary informs tee tbat my appeal matt take tba form of a memorial. I venturt so this aa ecerafement to one again bring my earn before Tout Majesty, aad beg of Your Majesty to consider whether yon will allow my hoeband to remain a prisoner ia Hollo way Gaol. My aeeaaaa net lor years laboured ta the Church.

is a scholar, aad as a Fellow of bit collere ona not take apt matter lightly or to eoopromisa himself by rath enthusiasm. It cannot be ia such an age as this, with tuch a Sovereign a Tour Majesty, aay one, least of all one like my baabaad, it to ba imprisoned for eoasdeace' take. I feel I am right in petitioning Your Majesty for justice. Your Majesty loyal subjects know that their graclea Queea loves liberty and truth aad thit persecution is not liberty, and to farce a maa to act agaiatt bit esosssBBca is ae train, a appeal a our Ja Jetty at a wile and a mother to take pity on me and on my children. We love and reverence my catbtnd, we know moat certainly the depth of bit convictions, the purity of bit devotion, and, kaowiag this, what must suffer when we see him a prisoner for conscience' take, driven to choose between us and what be most solemnly believes to ba hit duty to hit God, wa 1 aienam, let us not appeal in vain.

Your Majcaty't moat loyal and respectful aery act 'Mam DaIX." Tba fallowing reply bat been received in answer to this memorial IIome Office. Da. 6. Madam. I am directed to aeauaint you that toot an.

pucauon oa oenau oi your nutoano, toe aer. 1. Dale, baring beea referred by tbe Queen ta tha Secretary of State, bo regrets that be it unable to advise Her Majesty to interior wiu we pswajaa oi law ia tma cat. I am, Madam, year obedient tenant, A. F.

O. LIDCXXL. Un. Dale, 6, aVadbroaa fardent, Notting hm." ownert of their own Tbe Rev. Isaac Nelson, M.P..

in teconding it, aaid they mutt demand the con. trol of their own property. Tor tbe land belonged to the peopl and waa given to them by God. Tbey must also demand that Ireland be again acknowledged a nation, and that the green tag of the country abould once mora float ever it. lie argued that the London companies had no title to tU land.

He boasted that a Utter ITeabyterian tUn himself had brought Charles 1. to the block, and thrown dowa bit head at a gage of battle to Europe and Le denounced Lord Cairns and Lord Chancellor O'Haraa and others as wretches who bad crawled to tbe beech. Bctolutioni were then proposed declaring that no settlement of Lend question could Le final that did not give the ownership to tbe tenants pledging the meeting to adopt every constitutional means to tecure a reduction of rent wanking the Land League for their action, and condemning the Attorney General for the prosecutions. Ia pporting tbe but reaolution, Mr. Bigger, M.P., aaid be Lad no fear at to tbe result of tbe prosecutions, because be thought that at least one juror of the city of Dublin would not commit wilful and corrupt perjury at the dictation of tbe Chief Justice of the Court of queen's Bench.

(Cbeert.) II charged the Attorney General with having attempted to pack a jury to try the Land League traversers, and said that if be offered himself again to tbe farmers of tha county of Londonderry, whom he mierepro asnted, tbey would not be justified in electing bim. Tba following important memorandum bat been' addressed by tbe Chief Secretary to tbe magistrate Memoranda at to powers aad duties of magistrates under tba Acts IS and 16 Geo. chap. 21, and 1 and 3 William chap. 3i.

All persons armed with firearms er any other weapons, or appearing in any disguise or wearing any unusual uniform or badge, or fuming aay nam ar denomination not usually assumed by ordinary perron In their lawful occasions, wbo shall assemble or shall appear alone or with otbert by day or night to the terror af Her Majesty's subjects, are guilty of a high mlsdemea nour, subjecting tbem to imririsonment and other penaltiea. 2. AU person wbo astern bl aad unlawfuly aompal, or ky force or threat attempt to aoatpel, any one to quit his dwaninc maliciously break iityboutaar nUmm, eaaM aay door to CaXTOK Lxcrrars. The connexion rietwAen tba chemical composition and physical texture of glazes and eviuun a appueu opaque pottery, and the artistio effects resulting from tuch applications, wat discussed ia Professor Church's second Cantor lecture, at the rooms of the Society of Arts. Alumina is tbe characteristic refractory or infuaible ingredient of glazes as of bodies.

Lime and baryta, when not associated with silica, partake of the tamo quality. Silica gives hardness, but only wnen it ia uncombined. Tba fusible constituents sre potash, soda, lead, and boracit acid. Those compounds which impart opacity are binoxide of tin, barytas, and phosphates of lime. The oxides and other taltt of many heavy metals, such aa Iron, copper, cobalt, manganese, and chromium, impart colour.

Glaxea may be grouped according to tbe predominant constituent as soda, potash, lead, and tin flaxes. Tbe name of suieert is girta to those flaxes which are applied to the aaggara ia which tbe ware' is baked, and not to tbe pieces themselves upon whioh, however, tbe giant is deposited in a vaporous state Pottery pigments mty be classified as encaustic, oo slip nnder glase, on enaml, and over glaze. The orer glate colours are commonly called enamels. Professor Church next proceeded to give an outline of the connexion between tbe chemical condition of the several chief ceramic pir tsents aad the decorative or artistic effects which tbey are capable of yielding. He described in detail from thit point of view the characteristic qualities of a Large number of Specimens of flared wares other than porealala.

Example were thown both of foreign and Knglieii manufacture, bath ancient and modern. Some of the Japanese piece, if eccentric, reveal remarkable knowledge of eotourt and glacea. Specimen! of Messrs. Uawi revival of the Itallaa raby lustred decoration of earthenware were shown, a were alto Messrs. Minton't undar glaze gilding, and Mr W.

dt Morgan exceedingly beattiftl Rhodiaa tllea. Tbe third lecture, which wat delivered en Monday last, wa on Stoneware and other Wares glaaad with Salt," and wat raselyiUustrated by jar exaausleirom the far east will at fnm ax cwi poperies A crowded meeting of Churchman sympathising with tba Ecr.lt. W. Enragbt, T. Pclbam Dale, and Sydney F.

Green, wat bald last night la tbe Birmingham Town Hall, Colonel Bagnall in tbe chair. Admission wat by ticket. and wat strictly mail aad to sympathisers with tbe imprisoned clergymen. Among those present were the Yen. ArcMceoon Dsaison, the Bar.

Prebendary Grier, the Bar. Btrdmore Compton, the Bar. tbe Hon. li. Doug las, the iter.

A. Tooth, the Hon. C. L. Wood, and Colonel Drake, R.K.

After tha Apostle Creed and the Lord Prayer bad been Intoned by tbe meeting, letters of apology were one from Bishop Abraham, wbo described the question at on not of Church pnrty, bat limply honour, truth, and justice," and one from Dr. Pnsey, wbo wrote as louoirs In perseeutort nave been our benefactors. Bystanders bad becun to ask Why are thea mea tent to prison Why have they been imprisoned in the common gaou i loose wno nave sent our at prisoa have taemaalvat broken tha vary tame law they accuse oar friends of brsakinr." Db Dzxiie moved a resolution axDrattins; rvmnathT with tba imprisoned clergymen, which wat seconded by the Bxv. A. Mvbjut DaUc ton of Mr.

Pel ham Dale, and carrieo. Tbe HO. C. L. WOOD, President of the English Church Union, moved tbe next resolution, to tbe effect that, "Thit meeting declares tbat the claim of courts which derive their authority from a State alone to regulate the doctrine and discipline of the Church violates the constitutional relation of Church and State." lie aaid that, according to tbe constitution, no laws anecung we spiriiuaiuy tbouia be made without the consent of the spirituality, and quoted Mr.

Gladstone aad Lord Beacontficld as authorities oa the nat. They were told that imprisoned clergy men were htlng for externals but that was untrue, and If it wat 1 to bo to prison for a candle, wat it not much mora tiUy to send persons were on wat account I Tha Rxr. BxEUMORX seconded, and tha Rav pKX3Cjc0aJlT GlIXK aad Mr. O. MlDOLUfOBJI supported ue resolution, wniea wat cameo.

Colossi. DRaxs, K.K., moved, and the Bxr. E. L. BLIsxisaorr tcoonded the following reeolution, which wa supported by the Vzx, AiCKDtaoox Dmaow and tba Kxv.

ABIHCX TOOTH I Tbat tba penal enforcement 'ot dad si out confessedly discredited and not final ia calculated to weaken the moral afluence of all authority in Church and State." AKCHDaucox Dxxisox expressed his gratitude for tbe formatioa o( tbe Cburcn oi jaigiand working alen nociety. wmen, ne aaiu, aaa mauuy eontnoutea id and afforded him an opportunity ia bis old ace inz tbe people of Birmineham on behalf of freedom of eon. science and religion! liberty. There wat another and older law than Parliamentary law, and that wat tha law of tha Church Catholio that law waa part and parcel of the whole constitution of thit country. Tbe Rxr.

A Tooth said be wat glad tba question wat getting to be more one of principle than of persons. So far as the particalar trouble ahicn had fallen upon individuals wa concerned, ne waa sura way were very little troubled question before them wat concerning aa ou trace, not upon persons, but upon the Church England At far aa authority went in secular matter be trusted, be should always be roost ready to render every obedience, and, far as tbe duty of a priest went there was Bathing that a priest to instinctively liked as the opportunity of rendering obedience. It was the foundation of his work. But if Deonla would insist noon ceilinc thinr br their wreme names aad call secular law spiritual law, and an expression of opinion at Westminster a spiritual utterance, it wa their fault. Tbev.

the Cethehi clerrv of the Cnnret, England, claimed no immunity from error if tbey had aoade mistakes they were errors of judgment and ougbt to ba pardoned but it wat a serious matter whan a elanrvman stooa up ana eiaimeis was tuaviuuty. ana resolution wat tarried. Jin open ratine at Rochdale, on Wednesday, to hear aa address irom we iter. a. uutram on i'eraaeutiona in tba Church, brought together a mixed assembly, and on the usual reeolution oi sympathy being put the chairman would not decide whether that or the antagonistic amendment bad tbe majority on the chow of bands.

Mr. liar tha 11, wba it organising secretary to the Union, in reply to 3uettiont, stated that the Rochdale branch wat very liferent from other branches if it wished to Join the linaren oi stoma, ana jjoras, ins vommooa, and the Cnuren were the three Estate of the realm, and tba Queen wat over theaC A vote of thanks to the lecturer wat moved by one of the supporters of the amendment. At a aim liar enacting at xanritb, the resolution of sympathy waa carried unanimously. At a meetinr. at Hansworth.

on Mon day, similar reaolution! of sympathy were passed with the imprisoned clergymen, but with thit addition, which was moved by Mr. J. Norman and supported by several of the clergy present, That this meeting, while protest ing against some of the Blshopt allowing the prosecution of tbe clergy in secular Courts, would gladly upheld them in their constitutional administration ef the laws ecclesiae tical of this Cburcn and realm. Tbe Rev. K.

W. Enragbt had a large number of visitors yesterday, aad bit reply to the Bishop ef Worcester'! letter is being drawn up. Tbe becretary to the. English Church Union, Lieutenant Colonel Hardy, reported to tba council at their last meeting that since Mr Dale's imprisonment a larger numler ef new membert joined in the preceding month than in any similar period since tbe formation of tbe Union, 21 years ago and of tbeae new members more than two thirds were men. The defence fund now amounts to over 1,100.

and there are local committees at work in both Birmingham and Manchester. The Bishop of Manchester, in reply to Mr. Alderman Bennett's complaint of bit failing to comply with the Purehat judgment, tUtet bit willingness to wear cope whenever bis metropolitan, the Arehbithop of York, calls upon him to do to. Ecclxsiasticai. ArroiNTM ejjts.

Rev. Arthur R. Alsop, M.A., vicar of Acton Trutsell SDd Bed nail ttroni, the iiuimeiaa trustees; tier. Henry J. Black urna, MJL, rector of Warmincham.

honorary canon of Chester Cathedral Rev. Robert Blakiston, M.A., organi ticg secretary to the Additional Curates Society for tha dioveae of Canterbury, Winchester, and Chicliester Rev. W. iJ. Bush by.

B.A.,Uxon, fct. alary Dalkeith, aad chaplain to tbe Duke of Buccleuch, E.G., canon of St. Marv a THE WZATRZR. MXTIOROLOaiCAL UKHtTJ. WiATxm Cxuxt, WxiijrxxnAT, Dza rjc.

no ear. sr a a 9 af i sus ii aaa i i ataplaaaUoa ef the Chart I Ia tat above chart taa datiad Unaa an 11. .1 tarnaitlilual arsssmt. the valuas vkich tasr ladiaate bate ttvaa ia tfuns at the aad. lhas 30'4.

Tha shade tsasnsrabara si frrsa la tfurat for several aUeas aa tea aoaat. and tha mwordt. tat aaowttwtth tba fans at which Is shows try Us nambsr ot barte tad taataara, that htht ftovjteonf a tale: a vloUat tale siasUea aaha. Taa stats ef tat tea It note ta eapttal kUeve. Taa'aaoota Ua vatiousstauona.

xtaxearka. Tbe fall of the barometer noticed ia the north but evening Increased considerably In importance duriag last night, and tba chart at 8 a.m to day showed a very lane depression ia tbe north of Scandinavia, while tbe large anti cyclone ttill lay over tbe south of England and north of Franca. A rapid fall of tba mercury was reported from Norway and a brisk fall from all tba mora northern parte of the United Kingdom, while la tbe south, tha change, though alight, was upward. In consequence steep gradients had been formed, and th wind, which was westerly rly all coasts, blew freshly at all tbe more northern stations, and reached a gale ia the Shetland! aad west of Norway. Temperature bad risen, and was high for the time of year generally, ranging from S2deg.

la the southwest to ildeg. at Spam Head. The weather was cloudy and mild, bat very little rain bad fallen. By mid day the mercury wat falling on all except our aautb wett coasts, but no other change was reported. This evening! chart thowt tbat tbe depression is passing away eastward over Scandi navia.

The fall of the mercury ttill continues briskly at Skudetsaes, while on our east coast it bat slackened conti. darably, and on oor north west coasts has been tueeeeded by a alight recovery. Ia tba south west tbe mercury re mains almott steady, aad tba aati eyclone stilllholds over tbe south of England and north west of Franca. The wind baa veered to nortb wast in tha Shetland! and Hebrides, bat westerly breete are ttill reported from all other place. Tba wind it reth or strong in force ia tba northern ball of our area aad at Studesnaea reeehee a fresh gale; but ia tba southern half it is light or moderate.

Rain it reported from Ardrnttta. Sumburgh Head, and Srudttnaes, while at Scilly a thick, drizzling rain falling, and elsewhere th iky it generally overcast or very cloudy, bat at Stomoway tbe weather baa cleared entirely since tba afternoon. Tempertture it a little lower la the north and higher in the south than It waa at 6 p.m. yesterday, bat it ia ttill eonsiderahly above tbe mean for the month every. where, readings ranging from SIdeg.

in th south west to iSdeg. in tba north. Sea It very rough la tba north, mode rate or smooth elsewhere. Toucans or Wzaxhxb, ton Thttmdit, Dxcdcx 9 (ISStrXD AT P.tf. 0 THS MTIOVt CAT).

0. Bootiaxd, N. South westerly and north westerly wind, strong and squally unsettled weather; temps. rature changing fast, 1. Bootiaxd, X.

Same as Ne. 0. X. XxaiAXD, N.K. Westerly winds, moderate generally; fair to daU colder at first.

3. Xxoiahd, E. 5am as No. 1 UiDiASD Couimxa. Same at No, S.

S. Xxolawd, 8. (London and Ckaaaelj. Moderate light wettarly winds weatber fair and oolder tbea more cloudy and warmer. I.

BootlaJTD, W. Same at Not. 0 aad 1. 7. JCvolaicd, N.W.

(and N. Walts). South westerly winds, modertto and fresh cloudy, mild. XxotAYD, 8.W. (and S.

Walt). Westerly winds, light cloudy, dull, foggy. lurxaim, N. South westerly winds, fretb er strong. dull tome rain.

10. XxxutwD, 8. Light or moderate wettarly wind cloudy, fair. Warnings. Tha south eons wat hoisted thit morning In District! 0, 1, and B.

By order, ROBERT H. SCOTT, Secretary. iTrBJonrrD diaokax urn ra xxsicatioki. AT WTIBViil or 2 B0VM TXOH i TM. TO 3 A.K., or TEX JOIDa GLTCKXIH BaXOUXTXS El VIZ AT TKU Ostiok, tbz RxAPtnoa biiso ooxsvxctxb roa txm rHATtru ajtd BCutrcui to kxav xa xxrxx, Jnabaa Dxcxiuxa I 9, I 19 toa, av a.av I I it The foUewlaf TaUa thowt Ut Bssillnri ef tba Gljsarlas Bars star for tea 10 Soars iisssillnt tbs abovs, ttos eoniWtlat tha asrio of hears prsvieaa le i ata.

ef taa asorala ef pablloallo BERLIN. Die 8. Se barometer continued riling yesterday to 776mm. but under tbe infioenoe of a depreation from the north west sank again to day, with light weat wind, to 7745mm. Cathedral, Edinburgh Rev.

G. W. banks, curate of Holv i Temperature rather lower highest, 9deg. O. lowest, tr: i 1 vicar of Morton, Gainsborough pwHiip iiK.iiHuvy vt Mwvuii oci.

stoeiinge Auuion Deakin, M.A., curate of Almonds bury, perpetual curate of Cofton Haeket itron, Mrs. Deakin Rev. William Dudley Waddell Dudley, M.A., vicar of St. Stephen 'I, llertt patrons, Barou Dimsdsle and others, executor! of tbe Itte Rev. il.

Southwell Kev. S. Edwards, curat of deaden and Farleigh, vicar of Mistcrton, near Crewkerne Somerset Rev. L. Evsaa, M.A.

Oxon, incumbent of St. Peters Church, Peebles; Rev. John Gillam, B.A., rector of New Radnor, rector of Chellesworth, Suffolk patron, the Lord Chancellor; Rev. Edward Greenhow.M A ate inspector of scboobi in religious knowledge for the diocese of Llandaff, vicar of North Goaforth, nearNewcastle on Tyne Rev.Geoffry Hill, M.A., Exeter CoIleee.Oxon, curate in charce of St. Paul's Mission.

Abbev bill. enrate of Kt John the Evangeliat, Edinburgh Rev. John Allen Johnton, Jl.A., late curate ot Hempated, Gloucester, rector of New Radnor patron, the Lord Chancellor Rev. T. N.

Kearney, vicar of S3. Andrew and Mary, Maidenhead, vicar of Throwley, near laveraham Rav. Sydney H. Little, organizing secretary to theJAdditional Curates Sol eiety for tbe dioceses of London, St. Rochester; Rev.

Henry Dawton Moore, vicar of Hornhr. dnm.ti chaplain to bit Grace tbe Duke of Leeds Rev. Francit Thomas Mould, M.A., rector of Quenington Rev. Edgar Henry Kand, vicar of Bt. Michael's, Butlingtborpe, Leeds patrons, tbe Trustees Rev.

F. St, John, vicar of Kemps ford, near Feirford patron, the Bisbonaf Cloacestar aiwl Bristol Rev. John Smith, vicar of Lyme Regis, Dorset patron, the Bishop of Salisbury Rev. James Starmonth, Edinburgh University, assistant curate of St. John tbe Evangelist.

Edinburgh Rev. Richard Swan, M.A,, vicar of West Peckham, near Ton bridge patron, tba Dean and Chapter of Rochester Bev. R. Abbey Tlndall, rector of St. Stephen's, Cborlton upou Madlock, rector of Cowden, near Edenbridgo, Kent pttront, th Trustees.

Owe rrfia Jutxnilb OrrxNDxa. A meeting of the Birmingham magistrates wa bald yesterday to consider we report relating to the puaiabment of juvenile offenders which wa presented br a eommittaa tit a maatiu sk. Jutiaea held a fortnirht ago, and then reported in Tit Titus. Tbe Mayor (Alderman R. Chamber lain) presided, and there wat a large attendance.

After a discussion of ne report, a reaoiauoa aaproving it waa adopted, and it was ordered to forwarded to tba Home Secretary. A SHIT OK Tax. The owner ot tha thin TU1. graria, of Oreenock, which was tpoken by a German steamer aad renectad as kam a. I.

tk. vXm .1... 'S 1 tba matter, a th carxo, vrmM si wat atft aasa Bra 4deg.O. THB actobt aud WoRtsBOW ACT. An important communication bearing oa this subject baa recently oeen receivcu vj tne ouemem voamoer 01 i4mmerce.

At a meeting of the Chamber early in November attention was called to tbe fact that from recent communications between snotber Chamber and th Home Secretary it appeared that tbe entire cessation from work on a Saturday could not be allowed to count at one of the eight half holidaysholidays to be given by employers to their workpeople under tbe provisions of tbe Factory and Workshops Act, 1878. The Sheffield Chamber accordingly memorialized the Home Secretary on the tub jeet, and tbe following letter hat now been received from Mr. Redgrave, Chief Inspector of Factories With reference to tbe memorial from tbe Sheffield Chamber ef Commerce to Sir William Harcourt I bare to inform you tbat be it advised that it will ba legal to reckon cessation from work for the whole of a Saturday as one of tbe eight half bolidayt prescribed by tbe Factory Act to be given ia course of each successive 12 months. This communication from Mr. Redgrave will set at rest a question which ba given rise ta considerable difference ef opinion.

Cunrrou' Mutiwgs. A meeting of the creditors of Mr. Jasper Ruthforth, of 2, Grosvcnor terrece, Maa ningbam, lately carrying on business as a timber merchant anof wood turner in Snowdeo street, Bradford, wat held yesterday at the offices of Messrs. Killick, Hattoa, aad Vint, solicitors. Piece hall, Bradford.

The statement of debtor's affairs showed total liabilities 30,739 16. ad. Of these 23,542 9a. 4d. was owing in connexion with the Bol ton hall Building Club, and 17.247 7s.

Id. dae to other creditors. The total assets were 3,270 5. d. It wat re tolved to liquidate by arrangement, and Mr.

J. IL Blackburn wat appointed tbe trustee, with a committee of inspection, consisting of Messrs, Yaux (Hull), Bolton, aad Smith (Bradford). A meeting of th creditors of Mr. Charles Stroud, japanner, ate, of tbe Nipboa Works, Wolverhampton, was held on Tuesday. The statameat ef tba debtor's affairs showed tba total liabilities amounted to 9,26.

A large proportion of tba debt waa aasjecored, and a email turpi ut wa forthcoming for tbe benefit of tba estate aver tba secured debt. Tbe net asset were 8,667, laclndlng far stock in trade. Iha business waa established many years ago, and for a time was carried on raeoteif ally, bat tinea tbe debtor bat bad it alone be baa lost a great deal through depresaioa ba trad. An offer of a aosnDOaitiaa af la. waa raf naeJl and il waa daddad to wind up the estate ta liquidatioev a trustee and eoauutta of ia farmed that tbe former wiS la WBWrtMIBgitllw ARMT RXT0R1C TO TEX SDITOB OT TKK TOTS.

Sfrs TWArxeyMwwJlMtbaBvibaW at Varr bare read with th deepest atavaticsi the articles ia TXt Tiat of tba Sth of September and the 1st af November laot, which. wmj tney nay an autnoritauve alt aa to tbe 1 linnet about to ba introduced la tba organ ftatiom af the Army, appear to invite discussion ao their merits. A waa well aaid lately by his Bayal Highness tbe Field Marshal Oorn. rnanding in Chief, questaoo af Army erpxdxatioa ought not to ba mixed up with politics and partiea. Tba sole ebjeettobekept in view abooJd to make th armed forces of th oountry aa tifiaiextt as poaaible for the purpose for which alone aay civilized country bat aay abject or right to maintain thea far the purposes af war, for the protection of its material interests aad honour at borne aad abroad.

Being a firm believer la and aa eld advocate of short service with th eoioert combined with subaeauent service IntbaBctenec, oa the priacipl introduced by Lard Cardell, as the onlymeans by which an efficient army can be organized adequate to tba renuimaentt of tbe country. trust yea will not abject to admit Into Thi Titut a few observations on tome ef tba changes indicated In your articles above referred to. In them it it stated that, at a matter of organization, tba moat important is tbat relating to the localization scheme the main feature of which ia the formation of local bri gadet eorcpoeed ef two Line and twa or mora Militia batta lion! with a local naaleue or depot, tba officer! and men of th aemce battalion being completely mterehengeable, aad ta man of the Militia belonging to the brigade and, within the sphere ot their legal liability to service hie for tba strengthening of tbe brigade aa circumstance might quire. Ia describing tha present state af things it is said tbat ansa have hitherto beea enlisted for tba brigade, bat that, except ia tba case of tbe 23 senior regiments and tha Bines, tie two Line battalion have not beea properly amal gamated; and it ia added though most of th auilitarj aoinonuet deprecated arnalgtmatloa, tha Becretary ot State bat appointed a committee under Lord Morley to assist nun in giving happy and appropriate designations to tba ot wly constituted territorial regiments recommended by the Militia committee over which Colonel Stanley presided. It appears, therefore, probabla that tbe old designation and distinctions of regiments are to be done away with and a new order of tbingi introduced by which tba at price and Militia battalions will constitute to assay battalion of a territorial rsfimant, oU traditions will be aacrtfieed.

and existing rrjrtf dt corpt, which by soma is regarded a a tort of sentimental attachment of men to their regimexts, will ba eradicated. If the question were merely one of sentiment and had no practical bearing on tha Army it would matter but little bat can it he regarded aa tush One of tba chief ource of misf ortuna to tbe Turk it that tbey have no family nam, aad banco but little Interest in i tna Honour and credit 01 their families whereat among more civilized nation the honour and credit ef tba family are great incentives to exertion, and act as checks to Improper aad disgraceful conduct. This, which may be uprit ddfainiUe, it a high motive ef action ia a more ex tended form it develop! into patriotism, which may not inappropriately be called avrit it potru. No citizen of a civilized oountry would think of haHrt. these sacred tenth meat, tba poetetmon of which It of tbe greatest practical beneat to society and tha country.

All military men know that when larre nam bar af younx mea are brought together away from their home and tpe reted from family ties, tbey require every aasirttnc and encouragement to hats tbem straight, Omaars tvts, whose actions, from their position and comparatively limited numbers, are mora or lata known' to tbe world and to their friends, tad who cannot tbak off tba retponsibflity of keeping op the credit ef their families, derive material assists from tbe desire to uphold the credit of the "old regiment;" but of how much greater consequence is this motive ia tbe ease of private soldiers, whota separation from their families is so thorough that even when their eon. nexioni are respectable tbey bare little or no apprehension of their misoondact becoming blown to them I The honour of tbe regiment, which to a certain extent take tbe place of the family, ia in each case an inestimable aid ia tha maintenance of discipline and good conduct ia quarters as well as' in the The old tradition ef Indiridaal regi ments are ia thit way of tbe highest value, aad. abould not be interfered with unless it can be clearly proved tbat the object to be gained it on of paramount Importance. Under tbe present system men are enlisted for their brigade and can be transferred from on aervio battalion to another within th brigada at tha will of the authoritis. Before making any change it will ba well to Inquire what difference exists between th system a worked in tba 28 senior regiments, th battalion of which are thoroughly amalgamated, and la the other regiment which it It now proposed to amalgamata.

The battalion abroad In both ease in th normal Is fed from th battalion at hom wba both battalions of the brigada are abroad; the amalgamated battalions bare no adrantaga whatever oyer th others, in both cases the depot is the only soarce of supply, unless recourse ba bad to vol ua tearing from regi ment in other brigades. Why, then, amalgamate the battalions, to the destruction of that aprit i corpt which is so powerful a lever for the maintenance of discipline aad helps to bold men together in time of danger, inspiriting them to deed of valour and endurance of th highest order What will those gallant regimaate which bay, shared in that glorious march from Cabal toCendeber under Sir Frederick Robert and la the wall fought battle which followed it feel wbea tbey arrive la England aad bear that their old familar name and distinction ar abolished and merged in those of too ether regiment I Tha idea of territorial titles without aumbart ia altogether unpractical. Oa service battalion ef each regiment being abroad, tbe other temee battauoaa whiah are at hocae wiu, ia ease of emergency or national danger, hare to be aaede ap from tbe reserves to war strength, and formed into brigades, divisions, and amy corpt. Inking tbe titles aa recommended by Colonel Stanley's Comjuitte. the complication involved in the organisation of a field force will be matt confuting.

For example, brigada com posed of three of the regiments which marched from Cabal to Candabar would be detailed ia order as follows 1 2d Battalion Xing'! Own Royal Rifle 1st Battalion Argyltabire High landert 1st Battalion Cordon and 8atberlead Tbe mere length ot these names and the labour ef writing them on all oecasionaJnstaad of th simple Bum bars 2d 60th, 72d, and compel a retort to numbers, whs If their placet ia tbe committee '1 list be taken at tad if ting their positions ia the Army List, the 60th will become the 63d, th 72d the 59th, and the 92d tha ffith, tha total num ber of regiments being 67. Tba disgust with which tbeae change will be received will be intense but what will tbe gain I The undoubted answer, and one which cannot be contradicted, it that taa amalgamation, whta carried oat, will not give on tingl additional soldier for service abroad or ia th field. Th Army complain with justice that by tha present system, at it bat been worked, recruit, after a few week at their depots, are tent to the home battalions, and thea, after a few months, whan they bar begun to make friends and to know their offlcert and non commissioned efftera, and to be known, and, in many cases, respected by them, and to think they have won the esteem of those over tbem and prospect of promotion, they are transferred to another battalion, where they bare to recommence among total itrtngtrt. to tbat their minds "are unsettled aad they become restless. After a few yean at a foreign, station, where tbey cannot be transferred, they settle down in their regiments, and it it thus that we find such splendid regiments as thote which Sir F.Roberta selected for bit arduous march from tbe force under Sir John Stewart's command, on th ground that they were composed of older soldiers than the other regiments at CabuL Surely this fact speaks voiumea, and ought to have great weight with the authorities.

It it precisely that which contributed aa largtly to the efficiencyjof our Army ia the Peninsular war, aadtwhicb' it so carefully guarded ia the German aad Austrian armies. Men wbo have served together in a regiment or ia a company become fast friends, aad spirit of eomradaaifTJP brOdendiafl, at the Germans call it growt among them. which give confidence by tbe assurance that (tbey ill stand by each other In dacgert and difficulties. Tpgli.T, gentlemen act upon thit principle when they make up a party of friend for a risky ascent Alpine mountain, aad to thoroughly it it understood aad followed in tbe German and Austrian armies that men are very rerelfl if ever ia fact, I believe mty aay never transferred from on company or even subdivision of a company to 1 nether, much last from on battalion or regiment to pother. Tbe Army look in tba reorganization for some scheme which will lessen or do away with tba ntetttity ef eon ttantly transferring men from ana regiment ar battalion to another, aad remove the evils caused by tbe system oa which linked battalions are now worked.

Instead af which the scheme, as shadowed La your eolumne, le evidently intended to facilitate tha thnffling of tba pack, aad to red snen to uaite like the prisoners in a gaol, ar Eke aa nuay bales of good to ba mrved act libitum from ao regJnteat to another. It may wall be sakad, if thit be carried Late effect, what cbanee will anah regiwientt bay cm first goiag on service I By octtrJitMng territorial regimantt tba Militia will bemiaM and 4 battel the Lrt and ad of whiah ar aervice battalions, and a notion, ia consequence, ba baea aBytBrieosi way aaxc rite totUabeBef by ttatina, their ntwt, faTf tarma. that tha rejrtawate tba grCd rtawClS th depot th expanse reservoir it tw Msfia tha grand cistern, free which tba channel! cartier; weal farm a stzwaca into the aiatera ef the field bUUHoe?" TU a narUwxdchtitewrtsdrfJcoobtWiw Mmi tngineerlagwtatowork it exemplified by the ataatun tha aoanaittee report shoold be taken oa lU outbreak ef war 1 1st. In each of the districts requtrwi to taadsxpadi tioeary battalia, both Militia htttBane abeaJaTa. 2d.

That all enlistments daring tbe wartbeald be for' general aerric in tha Una ar Militia battalia of tlx district, and 3d. Tbat the depot centre should ba completed a fill battalion to aarva as a battelioa far recraite. Ia your article of th 1st of November It is stated tbat "the mea of tha Militia were to belong to Ua brigade, and, within tha sphere of their legal liability ta tervisa, were to be available for th strengthening ef tba brigada as circumstances might require." Tba question thea it what it tha legal liability to service of these mea They ar enlisted and attested ta service in th Militia, and cannot be transferred from tbe regiment in which they enlist without their ladrvidaal content tha regiment cannot ba embodied except ia use of imminent aational danger or of great emergency aad ee cartful na the legislator beea of the iatertete of tba mea that, even when embodied, they cannot ba tent abroad except with their cwn consent, and then ealy to the Mediterranean fortresses. If thia tyttem bad teen applied in 1879, when the Afrhaa and Zola wart were ia progress, and there were 12 battalions, including both battalions from 12 dspotr brigade, abroad at the saaae time, the nacaasary processes in order not to exceed the limit of legal liability would have been To proclaim Irraiinent aational danger or etaergeuey, 2. To aaa body 2 battalions of Uilitia, say 13,000 aaaa.

3. To raise 12 battalions for recruite. 4. To past aa Act of Parliament that all enlist tat daring the wart in question should be for general aervice ia the Line or Militia ef tbe tareral districts. Tbe proclamation would probably bare had a aerieat effect oa our foreign re latinos, aad have created a panis ia the mooay markst tba extent and cost ef which would have been incalculable.

The embodiment of the Militia batttliont and tba raiting of a fall battalion for recraite would have cost at th rat of considerably mora than 1,000,000 a year during the war, aad tba Enlistment Act, when obtained, with th attirttaee of the depot battalion, weald have yielded a lut af raw recruits whose training would net have beta coca pie ted before tbe war wat over. Tha only benefit that could possibly bar been gained would have been that tome at the 13,000 embodied militiamen might bare traneterred: their services by voluntary enlistment into tbe Lin. If tha wtrt had been popular, perhaps 100 partially trained men 00 tha average might have that bean obtained from each Militia battalion but aa these battalions were not required orom terries, aad could only hare bean embodied at feeders to those abroad, their embodixaent as a meant far recruiting would have beea found somewhat extravagant, as tba mea to obtained would have coat a bout 300 ahead a sum which would probably bare loffieed, if given ata bounty, to have induced 40 trained mea to have re entered tervice from th reserves. Bat if th ware bad been aa popular all this rait expenditure would not have yielded, possibly, a single maa tha grand reservoir, the expanse nasi air, and the grand aiatera would not have poared a tingle trained maa into tbe cistern of tbe depleted field battafiona. The real remedy for tbe existing state of things will not be found by abolishing the old title aad distinct iocs ef regiments and that causing diasatiaf action, bat by a really sound organization by whith the Army as it exists, which during the last 18 years bat averaged more than 94,000 mea at home, shall be able to detach 10,000 or 13,000 trained, and effective mea for inch email wan at we are constantly rabject to, without strain or having recourse to extraordinary measure.

Tba fact that a forte af 9400 ma af all arms at bom cannot put 10,000 or 13,000 mea ia tbe field without special legislation aad extraordinary measure wbea there it no spprehanaioa ef war on a large scale, er without rendering the battalions that remain behind totally laefSaienl by denuding them of all their trained and effsctir man, reflects great discredit ea our national ps wtrt ef organization any system by which this tnd cannot ba accomplished matt extra yafsnt, aad the country ought act to be eataified with any organization which wiu not effect it, Thit it tha task Mr. UiUders now hat la hand. Tne best thanks of the country are doe to Lord Cardwell far the bold step taken br him in introducinsr abort terviet with the colouri and in the formation of a reserve, which only require to ba supplemented by judicious bibocuibi to aatablith a tyttem which shall make our Army really affective for great a well at small wart, without erer burdeniatT the country with aa expenditure to which it will not submit. Yours ebedieaUy, December. ONE WHO HAS SESTXD.

Qixxas BxairoLxirr Soarrr. The 63d anni yarsarv dinner of the German Society ef Benevolence took place yesterday evening at tba Free ata trtas' hall. wbea Dearly 200 ladla aad nctlemen eat dowa to dinner, under the presidency of hi Excellency Count Munster, th German Ambaawador. The object of the eociety ia to support mar Germane in London, however short but have been tba period of their residence here. Tha amount distributed among them daring the year past we about 1,300, aad the number ef Germans eant beak to their awn country wa about 120.

Among thote present were hie JtxcelJeeey Count Munster and the Countess Maria and tbe Constats Olgs, Dr. W. Bicmon aad lady. Count Lynar, German Km baasyj Baton roa den Brine ken. Charge d' Affaire of the German Embassy Sebeimrath voa Schmcttaa, of tha German Embassy Major voa Vietinfhoff, Military Attach of the Geratan mbsy; Baron Biagalaha.

i natriaa Embassy; Count Cassini, Austrian Embassy Barou Stored k. A aatriaa Zmbaasy; President, Mr. CharUs Tne nnuna Mr. Serin, oldest treeidant of the teeiety Mr. Zrabaer.

Mr. Cxr aad Mr. Lehman. His Excellency the Chairman, ia proposing the health of Her Moat Gracious XUjestr Queen adverted with cratitude to tba Interest the Queen had always ahewa in the prosperity of this society. The next toast wat that ef the Prince and Princess of Wales aad tne rest of tha Royal Family." 1 bote present wooJdJecJ bow maay bonds united ta Royal Family of i and their own country ef Germany, aad he was glad to inform them that th Duke and Duchess of Coo naught had ton sea tnd to becotna patrons ef the society.

Dr. Siemens proposed the Emperor of Germany, who had teen a ttt subscriber to th fund after which the proposed The xmperor of Austria ana tbe Foreign Sovereigns, Patrons, and Frateatore of th to whien Baron Biegelebsa, tbe representative af tbe Austrian Embassy, reszttaded, aad announced' that Hie Imperial Majesty was prepared to continue bis annual donation of 50. Tbe chairman, in proposing the toast of th evening, success to the German Society 01 xteneTOience, thoaat that tba eadieace would feel with him that thia society had don a great deal ef good, aad that there wa great necessity for such a society in this vast city, tbe emporium of wealth and commerce. This society strttched its wings over maay union (mat leicifncre wss hiss tw sun shore and found nothing but bitter ditappointmtat. It bad of tea beea aaid that in this town there were misy other institutions ef a benevolent character, tuch as tha Society of Friends of Fareignera ia Distress and alto tb German liospitaX But these societies did not obviate th necessity for an institution like thit which they bad met to' support.

The German Hospital might cur the bodies, but it could not fill the purses of the unfortunate sufferers, tnd the Society of Friends of Foreigners in Distress bad a role tbat tbey would only extend help to those who bad beea resident a year in thia country. It was just dariag thst period that help was often most needed. He was happy to ty that thit society bad beea progreeting, aad tUt th past year bad been a very good one. Tbtir income of ilOO Lad gone to relists mora thaa 2.0UO persons. Tbey bad new 80 membert more than tbey bad last year.

He hoped be might aay tbat every wcil toda" German should belong to thit benevolent society. A concert had been given skb brought in about 230, and ha hoped that the reeoniery results of that dinner would be proportioaably good. Be trusted tbat they would not only opta their tars WW speech, but would also open their pockets to aid ia ro pporting the usefulness of that institution. The toast wssrs ceivedwitb enthusiasm, as were the toeste which preceded it. Mr.

Charles Tuchmaaa, tb president of tb institution, proposed the health of their noble chairman. His leacy Count Miiaster. th German Ambassador. The chairman acknowledged tbe kind recaption accorded to the mention of hit name, and enjoined apoo all present to do what tbey could to promote tbe welfare of that iwf'0' tion; after which be proposed a toast in bono irofU president and other officers of the institution. Mr.Tuca mann.

la responding, tianoed at tbe difficulties which bad atood in the way of the soortment, and rendered bis as kaowledgmenU to ithe chairman for tbe ready way a wiusa be bad proffered his aid and influence, "lb Artistes was the next toast. It was proposed by Mr. Sena tnd ec knowledged by Mr. Gaax. and the proceedings weresaoa tm.innn Tha.mnacal pro gramma waa of peculiar exrellence, and wat under tha direction ef Mr.

Wilhelxa Gaax. The tabecriptioa bst seariy reached 8W, being more than double tbe amount last year. Tirxtxs. The Rrr. Canon E.

T. Vanshia, hxt u.v t.i..i.j Minlh tha btho.ntytrt.ct Ka ti. wiluda tha axeest OB tie average beyond tb amount at watch ta tune wvaw muted oader the Act of l3o. Tu RxjxccAiTxa ut Wait. On TuetoT Bebeccaitea.

Prye Thomas, a farmer's ton, end iBies Davis, a farm labourer, were ebarged brfce the Redwr ehir macistretee at Khayader with poaching oa th rlrar Wye. The prisoners were apprehended aftecherteeM Rebec riot. Tha rioter wore women '1 bortactsnau their face blackened, marched four deep, and fired ra Th prisoners ware fined end eoete each. Tteaterataa deplored tbe Reteeca outrage and appealed to Kadi ratx Xteato keep the peace. Ha said thaBarrtfatee oM Ttndieato the law, and if they were kiUed taka their place aad do the aaa.

Tha outrage a ahir war a disgrace to aitiHattien. tut he tested watt I.

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