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1 1 1 and which the confused speech of M. LUCIEN BRUN perhaps served in some measure to confirm, There can be no doubt that M. THIERS was right in point of fact, as well as strategically, when he said that the issue before the Assembly was one of confidence in himself. M. ERNOUL made this clear.

The Right found, or thought they found, M. THIERS governing with the aid of the Left, and they wanted to prevent it by a change in the machinery of government which would make them supreme and M. THIERS their submissive agent, In their mouths Ministerial responsibility meant no more than that any Minister censured by a vote of in the Assembly should be required to resign 80 that the PRESIDENT should be compelled to select those only as his Ministers who possessed their contidence. This was the responsibility they demanded; but to make its operation certain they required, also, that M. should abstain from the Tribune, except under conditions intended to exclude him on all critical occasions.

The complaint raised by M. ERNOUL was that whenever a Minister was attacked the PRESIDENT intervened and saved his subordinate, and for this there could be no adequate remedy short of provision that the PRESIDENT should not be allowed to intervene in such case. The result would be to make the Assembly supreme, and to reduce the office of President to a condition of such insignificance that no Statesman ot original ability would take it. It would, in fact, not be worth while to maintain the office of President at all, as the chief authority would evidently be found to reside in the Chief Minister sitting in the Assembly, and possessing the confidence of the majority of its members. If you want clerk, I am not your man," were the PRESIDENT's words yesterday.

The simplest instincts of self-preservation impelled M. THIERS to resist with all his might scheme which would deprive him of all power, and would, moreover, prove impracticable as soon as a real attempt was made to set it in operation. The PRESIDENT might be invested with every kind of titular honour, and become semi-sacred Mikado, kept apart in his palace; the governing power of the nation would be vested in his Ministers, and espepocially in some one Minister, who would soon become recognized as their chief, It is sufficiently plain, as we said yesterday, that the plan has been borrowed from the supposed working of our own Constitution but it will require considerable modification before it can be regarded by us as satisfactory translation of our own practice. For the present we rejoice at its defeat. Its success would alinost pecessarily have been followed by the immediate retirement of M.

THIERs, and if this occasion of anarchy could be avoided, it would only have been avoided at the cost of M. consenting to assist in Gouvernement de Combat. The changes which the Right desired were changes towards an end; and that end was the forcible repression of Radicalism, which they styled the poisonous element of society. lostead of trying to bring round the Left to work with them in consolidating united France, they had planned the design of constructing France which should exclude them. We know not to what lengths they would have been prepared to go, but the imposition of electoral disabilities on those they stigmatized as the enemies of all good citizens would have been the mildest step they could have adopted, and this would have been sufficient to rekindle the passions of civil war.

The danger has been averted. We wish we could say more but it is too apparent that the Right have entered upon a policy of aggression, and that their attack, cheoked yesterday, will be renewed in the Bureaux to which M. proposition is referred, again in the Commiesion which must be nominated by the Bureaux, and again in the Chamber when the Report of the Commission is brought before it. The battle is in fact begun, and will not be stayed until either the Right have won or they are checked by Dissolution and fresh elections, which would, by reducing their numbers, make them a useful instead of a threatening element in the National Assembly. The Marquis of SALISBURY made what was a good speech, bat ought to hare been a good deal better speech, at the meeting of the Bournemouth Conservative Association.

Most readers will understand what we mean, if, indeed, they have not anticipated us, when we say that his Lordship always invites a distinction, between the speech and the man. There are persons whose clothes never fit them, or who never fit their clothes, and Lord SALISBURY suggests not what he would call the embodied essence of average" Conservative, but an essence of some sort not yet in its right body, or a body, rather, at a loss for its proper essence. Involuntarily, one thinks of some other state of affairs, in which we should see Lord SALISBURY more as he For example, what if the House of Lords should be disembodied, and his Lordship once more be found relieving the monotony of useful legislation 'in the House of Commons Or, what if the Conservatives should come in, and Lord have to take laborious and responsible part in the initiation and defence of important measures It is office that shows the man. What really leads one to detach Lord SALISBURY from his surroundings, and even his expressions, is that he is always regarding institutions and parties as if he knew them chiefly from the outside, and had had neither long nor intimate acquaintance with He is precocious rather than mature, and, though his style is always pleasant and attractive, the matter is old, abstract, and over'laid. One sometimes has to read essays, by very young thinkers, which are so entirely on the foundations of the subject that one feels tempted to say, Now, throw that into the fire, and let us.

what follows, for that promises to be very good." Unfortunately, Lord SALISBURY has made and forgotten many such speeches as that at Bournemouth but what follows has yet to come, and no doubt waits for opportunity. He tells us that the House of Lords is not the House of Commons, and ought not to be that it does not feel, think, and act as the House of Commons does, and that it ought not, inasmuch as in that case it would lose its distinct identity, and thereby its existence. Then he tells us that Conservatives are not Liberals, nor Liberals Conservatives that Conservatives want to keep and improve things, Liberals to smash them up and reduce all and everything to dead level. On these grounds there in, and ought to be, eternal war between the two Houses and the two parties. They represent entirely opposite and contradictory principles, and it not the House of Lords, but the House of Commons that wants improvement, and the best improvement is to send into at good men and true, like Sir H.

D. WOLFF, When Lord SALISBURY does descend from the abstract and rather" high-flying ides of Liberal Party composed of office-seeking, moneyseeking, pleasure-seeking men, indifferent to all that we revere or believe, it is only to regard them as having to pay a sort of periodical black mail, a Radical tribute," to kind of political banditti below the gangway. To these wolves they have to throw bit by bit of the precious constitutional freight, in the hope of saving, not so much the remainder, their own comfortable and dishonourable position. Such is the picture, so old that 1 really could not measure its antiquity, for, indeed, it is prehistorie, that Lord SALISBURY puta forth view of the very crisis of public affairs. Now, of course, it in necessary to handle abstraotions and when a man's memory or his wits happen to be shaken out of him- by heavy dinner, or by the presence of 400 Conservatives and their ladies above- then it is allowable, so CONTENTS OF THIS DAY'S PAPER.

(Persons Wanted, Property Lost, Notion, (Notice to Mariners, Shipping, Horses Notiel, RAILWAY OTHER (Review) -Hunting BOARD OF WORKS- Thei High of ProviShipping Intell University Education College ProThe Duties) of Acquisitica and other Companies Produce of Trade to Tee LONDON Baitor Fancy Income: GladCharities, Theatres, 1 (The Crisis Lord Salishury ou LEADING Polly: Thank giving 1878--Court Winebester Dire pline Boston Freech Party Criee--The Republicans The The Meteuric Showet- Letters Editor to Keira; The Ceylon Pearl December School Board Courteg)- JUDICIAL Report (Courts of Queen's Bench, ad Probate of Notices Editor (A Ship Working Men's Column, Board Residence, Property Wanted, Property Pablie Companies, Versailles Miter The Orisis at Verasilles is for the moment over, but the Sit has been severe, and has left the Governenfeebled, After an exciting debate, it debate it oun be called, in which M. Taigas in two long and energetic appeals claimed the confideuce of the Amembly, and MM. ERNOUL and LucIEN Bars alone spoke in opposition, vote taken, and the proposition moved by M. DUFAURE, the Minister of Justice, carried by 370 votes against A majority has thus been secured by the but the balance is slight, and is, in fact, almost exactly what M. JOHN LENUINNE anticipated, anticipation deolared insufficient to mainsatbority in the Chamber.

recalls the words of the Due Mime battus, nous ne scrons pas vaincus" may be beaten, but we shall not be This seems to be the truth. It is reported demeanour of M. THIeRs, when he learnt the numbers of the Division, revealed his inward dissatisfaction. He had made extraordinary efforts be had condescended to a confession of faith upon moral, and religious as well as upon polihe had declared that the Vote was of confidence in himself, and that he could it otherwise and the end he majority of 36 in an Assembly of 704 We do not know whether he felt any steps which must follow the Resolution those later yesterday's vote lay probably unbackground, but it is impossible threaten trouble and confind from the full report of the that he refers nomination of the thirty the proposed Commission and, the Right of the Bureaux, Right will evidently furnish majority the Commission. What be expected the consequence The Commission will be charged to present Bill to the Assembly prescribing the functions of the several authorities of the State, and the conditions Ministerial and it will be tirely within their competence to present Bill embodying they have been contending for during the last and no more.

The contest to be closed yesterday afterrenewed in the Commission, and when the Report of the Commission is offered to the Assembly and we must not be surprised if the agitation of the past week revived before present year is over. It is evident that M. Tarzas felt the importance of crisis afternoon, and put forth all his it. Never did this old man eloquent" speak under greater disadvantages, and far can judge, did he make His natural allies in the Chamber actively bostile or passively and during the delivery of his speech ad those who applauded at intervals by a wide gulf from his opinions, though support him on Division. It not surprising that once or twice he appeared for applause which did not come, at the unexpected apathy halted and retraced his We can, however, contrast other momenta, when he boldly the majority to a trial of and equal truth and courage, that it who had chosen him to be PRESIDENT he had been called to the head of affairs by an authotity superior even to their own.

But the bearing of the all events during his first on the whole, strictly moderate, if not He was eager to make protestation of his faith. He acknowledged the supremacy of the Amembly, he did not pretend to put himself forward indispensable person. He had never wished to impose any unalterable form of Government upon the Chamber all that he had to have the conditions of authority al ordinate powers of the National made plain and distinct. Having thus question formally under discussion, the proceeded to state his opinions on touching on the domain 1 A unbecoming digression at of this Versailles kind it would would not yet we regret that M. THIERS have thought it necemary to declare anew his in favour of the temporal power of the and antagonism to the social pretensions the workmen.

It is more than doubtful whether detached a single vote from the Right by such while they will be remembered against on the other side, and in making them he did a truth that partisan attitude it his purpose to disavow. Certain it is that when M. to reply the Right one applauded his arguments, He explained the utmost clearness what be and demanded, and expounded in ides of Ministerial responsibility the Chamber with cheering. An apt quotation from the of the Consulate and of the Empire, enmoral that unwise to intrust of a country to any single which speech, gave M. pies for turning anew to the tribune.

of the attack evoked in this second all the en of his defence and, he refused to look the as anything other than a question of The or rejection of M. must be taken to prove majority of the Assombly desired the to remain in office or to resign and the would have to regulate their conduct by This was undoubtedly the the policy which could be We the that (Legal Notions, Trade Notional, (Hotels; Advomons, Trade Notions Want by Auetion), SATURDAY, NOVENBER 30, 1872. says the old master of rhetoric, to fall back on common-places. But, even under these trying eircumstances, man ought still to have sufficient presence of mind to be logical, Lord SALISBURY stoutly confutes the proposition that the Upper House is necessarily to follow the Lower House, and to gives formal sanction and constitutional validity to whatever its majority may think fit to decide. In that the Upper House would, he says, be good for nothing, and would rightfully and certainly soon cease to exist.

It does not seem to have 00- curred to him that the CRowN has long been in the very position which he describes as the last monitory stage preceding dissolution. HER MAJESTY always assents to whatever passes the two Houses, and there is Dot eveu a question whother she likes the measure or not. She must choose her advisers partly from the majority of the Lower House, and partly from their frien Is and allies in the Upper House and it is not even asked, curtainly not known, whether she likes oue party better than the other. Yet nobody would say -at least, nobody could say with truth -that the Monarchy is now at its last gasp, or that it has no power or influence, or that measures are forced upon the REIGN that she is likely not to approve. It is enough that the Throne still stands in the midst of and that we are loyal to its occupant as our forefathers to any of her predeceasors.

It will be long, very long, before the House of Lords comes to be so much of formality and pageant as the CROWN, There is room for many and great changes in custom well form hefore our Constitution arrives at that stage, if ever it does. But the prospect of becoming as compliant, as unresisting, as uninitiating as the CRowN is not 80 terrible or so imminent bugbear as justly to frighten the Lords into the assertion of independence. To put it up to something of the kind is the too obvious aim of Lord SALISBURY's speech, if, indeed, it aims at more than amusing the Conservatives of Hampshire, and enabling them to say they heard the Marquis of SALISBURY speak upou the House of Lords, the British Constitution, and the condition of parties. The theory and practice of the Constitution and of government by party proceed upon certain facts, which Lord SALISBURY might almost be thought to put industriously out of view, did the tone of his speech show any industry at all. These facts are the many various expositions of each House, and not less of each party, and she general understanding in this country that we are always discussing our differences with view to removing them or subordinating them to the rightful voice of the great majority.

We believe the nation to grow towards political agreement, unity of action, and hearty toleration of the differences that must remain. We agree to disagree, and we disagree in order to agree far more thoroughly than if we had never disagreed at all. There is no sign, as yet, of either the Lords or the Commons coming to that special consistency, separateness of opinion, and uncompromising tone that shall prevent harmonious and friendly action with the other House. In the Lower House the aristocratic and gentle element, and some other element that follows aristocracy as its shadow, are still strong. Even below the gangway the men are still mortal, capable of gentle thoughts and softening influences.

What are we told every day, whether as a blessing or as the worst calamity, to the inner heart's desire of every man who has made or grubbed together his quarter of million! Probably there is no body of men so much on the change and with their opinions much to form and mature as our Parliamentary representatives. There is not a man of them, probably, but has said to his constituents more than he wishes, and what he desires to modify, perhaps to forzet altogether. Is it true to describe this body always certain to follow the most advanced and reckless portion into antagonism with the other House and all the institutions of the country Then for the Lords. They represent the various elements of British society as fully as they who are called our Representatives, They represent not only land, but money, commerce, law, the professions, and every school of political and religions opinion. One thing they represent above -that is, the generai agreement to concur with the judgment of those who possess the requisite mental qualities and actual experience.

The British people follow the lead; nor can it be said they are rash and indiscriminating in their choice of leaders. The presence of Mr. GLADSTONE at Mr. THE TIMES, SATURDAY, Field's dinner in celebration of the American Thankagiving Day was really worth more, as a proof of kindly feeling towards America, than any words he could utter. After declining the invitation to dine at the Mansion-house on Lord Mayor's Day, the PRIME MINISTER could not be expected to socept any other during the present might well have pleaded the pressure of Cabinet business an excuse for not joining a private Anglo-American party at the Buckingham Palace Hotel.

The motives which prompted him to go are not difficult to conjecture, and will be appreciated in both countries. Having been disappointed in the sult of the Genera and Berlin awards, Great Britain is the more bound to show that she harbours DO feeling of soreness, but, on the contrary, heartily adopts the principle of International Arbitration, by which she has been hitherto the loser. This feeling would have been significantly and gracefully expressed by the mere appearance of Mr. GLADSTONE as Mr. CYRUS FieLD's guest, even if no speeches had been made, or no reporters had been allowed to attend.

Such rule, however, could never have been enforced on such an occasion, and Mr. GLADSTONE was naturally called upon to return thanks for the chief toast Great Britain and the United States of America -two countries destined to be united in friendship closely as they are in kinship." In doing so, he touched happily upon that which distinguishes an entente cordiale between England and America from the special friendships and intimate alliances which are sometimes patched up by treaties between great military nations. These friendships are generally founded on common hostility to some other Power, and betoken something that is for. midable to their England and America, on the contrary, neither have nOr can have, in any conceivable event, common objects which are not also beneficial to mankind. Any special friendship which may subsist or grow up between them is, and must be, founded upon the close relationship of race, upon united language, upon sympathy, at least, if not identity, of institutions, upon that love of free" dom and rational and ordered self-government which distinguishes these two great All this is true--not the less true because it has been often repeated, or because, as Mr.

GLADSTONE admitted, it savours of generality. It is a fact which cannot be too often or too thoroughly realized that none of those permanent elements of antagonism out of which national hatreds and wars have mostly arisen can be alleged to justify a sentiment of enmity between Englishmen and Americans. To quarrel now because GBURGE ILI. and Lord rainly endeavoured to lay a tax on the Boston trade would be an extravagance of pugancity only to be paralleled by an Irish faction fight, and disagree all from Mr. GLADS remarks on the original causes of separation, disagree from him in regarding that separation inevitable.

When he says. that Great Britain struggling against nature, and againat DENCE, in opposing American independence, we take leave to doubt whether, if both nations had then known their own interests. American NOVEMBER 30, 1872. would ever have been proclaimed. Since it is now too late to undo, it is safe to regret, events which passed a century agu, and we hold ourselves perfectly free to believe that, but for GEORGE III.

and Lord NORTH, these Islands and the United Provinces might have continued under the same Government-modified, no doubt, by the very nature of such an association, yet still embodying the spirit of that Constitution which BURKE's genius would have known how to develope. But this, after all, is nothing more than an historical speculation, and we have todo with the present and future relations between the severed branches of the Anglo-Saxon family. Mr. GLADSTONE cautiously alluded to Canada as it if were the only remaining source of discord and divergence between British and American policy. We venture to go a step further, and to question the reality of this supposed difference.

Americans must know, as well as we do, that Great Britain has no desire to retain her connesion with the North American Provinces one day longer than it is supported by the interests and loyal feelings of their inhabitants, and that while it is thus supported their annexation to the United States would be, if not impossible, yet unprofitable and disastrous in the highest degree. At preseut, whatever traces of separatist movement there may be in the Dominion are in the direction of Independence rather than of Annexation, and even those who push the MONROE Doctrine to extremes may, perhaps, see reason to doubt whether its triumph would be furthered by the immediate withdrawal of the British Flag from the American Continent. In short, whatever reason Canada may have to complain of the sacrifices imposed on her under the Washington Treaty, her allegiance to Queen VICTORIA constitutes no obstacle to "fraternal union" of the English and American peoples, As Mr. GLADSTONE truly observed, there is no longer a single outstanding dispute to be settled between them, and both are it were bound over. by fresh obligations to maintain the amity so happily restored, inasmuch as they have set an example of international Christianity which has been witnessed by all the world.

If there be still certain jealousy and dislike of. Great Britain lurking in the American mind--and there is no breach of friendship in perceiving that it is not yet extinct -we must seek its origin, not in external sources of discord, but in circumstances which Englishmen are too apt to forget, Let it be remembered, in the first place, that Great Britain is the only European country with which the United States have ever been at war. All the bellicose patriotism which English schoolboys used to indulge towards France has been indulged by American schoolboys towards England during three generations, and has been recklessly encouraged by the authors of American school-books. This may be very unjust and unreasonable, but there is nothing very strange in it, especially considering that, when the memories of the first American War had just begun to wax faint, our rulers managed to blunder into a second American War by insisting on most arbitrary right of search. Again, we ought to recollect that, although fifty Americans visit England for one Englishman who viajts America, yet the vast majority of Americans have never even seen Europe, and that among the American citizens born in the United Kingdom Irish emigrants largely preponderate.

Ignorance is the parent of mistrust between nation and nation, as it is between class and class; but the mistrust of England prevalent in America partakes of. class antipathy as well as of national antipathy. The American imagination pictures English society to itself mainly. composed of peers and paupers, taking little account of those great middle classes which so nearly resemble the general population of the United States, The influence of this fallacious idea pervades American journalism and literature, and, what is more curious, it is shared to some extent by ill-educated persons in the Beitia Colonies. Very few Americans or Colomists fail to get rid of it after short residens in England but the masses in America are possessed by it, and, unfortunately, what they read in their newspapers does not help to disabuse them of it.

Here we light upon another consideration, often ignored or misconceived, which goes far to explain the unreasoning dislike of England which English travellers used to notice in America long before the Alabama issued from the Mersoy on her ill-omened cruise. Both Mr. GLADSTONE and Mr. HUH M'CULLOCH, formerly Secretary of the United States' Treasury, assumed that the use of a common language and telegraphic communication were potent safeguards of peace and goodwill between Great Britain and America, Fully recognixing the intinite benefits which both conutries reciprocally derive from these advantages, we cannot accept this assumption without material qualification. It is precisely the community of language between nations whose modes of thought and social organiration are so different which gives meaning and point to every harsh word or piquant criticism of English writers or speakers about America and the Amecicana, It is precisely the extension of the electric telegraph across the Atlantic, largely due to Mr.

CYRUS FiELD's efforts, which has facilitated the instant publication of all such words and criticiams, generally without their context and not unfrequently with malicious additions, in every city of the United States, The mischief thus occasionally done can hardly be overstated. Only the other day, while Englishmen of all ranks were Mr. STANLEY, and the Geographical Society was conferring a special honour on Mr. BENNETT, the proprietor of the New York Herald, for having originated and defrayed the expense of his enterprise, the Berlin correspondent of that very journal was fabricating a calumnious statement that Great Bri. taia had intrigued to bias, the Emperor WILLIAN's judgment on the San Juan question.

'The result discredited and silenced the calumny but had the award chauced to be in favour of Great Britain, the effect of it might have been seriously prejudiced by this shameful trick, which the electric telegraph alone rendered possible. Far be it from us to doubt that all which promotes a closer intercourse, by means of commerce, traveling, and correspondence, must in the long run contribute to overcome the unfounded prejudices which are the sole impediment to a friendship such as Mr. FuRLD and Mr. GLADwould desire to establish. The danger of rapture was possibly greater, on the whole, when months passed and seas rolled between the despatch and the reception of pacific overture but telegraphic communication has its evils too, against which the American Press, which uses it so liberally, ought to be on its gourd, Englishmen have just now more than ordinary warrant for talking about the weather.

It rains almost all the atmosphere is saturated with moistare; very little of the deluge is carried off by evaporation, and. the result in a state of the soil forbidding almost entirely the natural husbandry of the We published, however, this week letter from well-known authority on such questions, in which, though the importance of the agriculcrisis in no degree dissembled, good given for regarding the prospect without alarm. It cannot be denied that our last deficient, that the potato crop of the United Kingdom hen partially failed, and that amount of foreign supplies (likely to required during the next twelve months is very considerable. On the other hand, is is not to be doubted that importations will duly arrive, what in still more to the purpose, there are grounds for presuming that prices 1 not extrava high, Our correspondent, Me. CAIRO, did I not confine himselt to" the of his several conclusions.

He entered into the statistical elements of the case, placed the figures before us, and explained the successive calculations on which his deductions were based. As the weather has by no means improved since he wrote, it may tend to tranquillize the public mind if we reproduce the substance of his valuabie and opportune communication. In the first place, then, be it understood that the last week or two of rain has done us little or DO harm, and for this reason--not a very welcome one- -that there little room for any more harm to be done. Mr. CARD plainly acknowledged that, even with a change to tine weather, there was not time to make up all the lost way." This, however, refers to the crops of 1873, and does not directly affect the question of supplies immediately before us.

The rich wheat lands of the country, both North and South, have been so soaked and drenched with the excessive downpour that they are in no condition to receive the Autumn seed, and our correspondent could only recommend that the most should be made of the lighter and drier lands at the present moment, while the heavier soils were reserved for Spring crops. It is true, no doubt, that the crops of the present year have to some extent suffered from the wetness of the season. In Scotland especially, and more or leas in our northern counties generally, the harvest has been greatly damaged; but then it must be understood, in louking broadly to the food question, that the yield of Scotland is too small in itself to exert much induence on the general supply. The entire wheat crop of that country does not afford quite one week's consumption of the United Kingdom so though the local losses are considerable, the price of bread will not be much affected by the deficiency. However, matter of fact and on a survey of the whole case, it is calculated and admitted that we shall require for the year before us not merely large foreign supplies, but supplies beyond the limits of any former experience.

Our correspondent puts them in ronnd reckoning at 12,000,000 quarters of wheat to be imported between September, 1872, and September, 1873, 1a satisfaction of the public needs and the question naturally follows whether we are likely to receive this quantity, and what price it may be necessary to pay for it." The answer is encouraging. We have been receiving up to the present mowent even more than the required imports. During the last two months 2,581,000 quarters of foreign wheat have been brought into this country--a rate of supply which would, if maintained, give us 15,000,000 instead of 12,000,000 quarters for the whole year. It is observed, too, that very little of the last home crop has yet found its way to market. The weather has not been more favourable for thrashing than for any other agricuitural work, but if the setting in of Winter should check the foreign supply it may be expected that the deliveries from our Own stores will be increased.

As to value, the quotations at Mark Laze last Monday ranged, according to quality, from 50a, to -high prices certainly, but not amounting to famine prices. Mr. CAIRD, moreover, favours with certain special ground for confidence in the future. He observes that in the matter before us France is the controlling force." In other words, when France comes into the market buyer wheat will be dear when she has a sutticient or more than sufficient harvest of her own wheat will be cheap. Now, the French crop this year was excellent, and the consequeuce is that France is not only not our competitor in the markets of the world, but is actually able to contribute largely from her abundance to our present wants.

We know, therefore, that at this moment we are getting all we require and little more can see why these importations are likely to continue on an unabated scale, and if, adds our correspoudent; "during the Winter months the foreign supply should decline, I feel very confident that the home supply will rapidly increase, and will carry us in safety to the period when foreign corn will again flow in upou as without stint." In this way, and with results certainly not unsatisfactory, the question of the wheat supply is disposed of bat there still remains the confessed and extensive failure of the, potato crop--a crop secoud only in importance to the wheat harvest itself. In this country about 500,000 or 600,000 acres are planted with potatoes in Ireland about twice that breadth of land is assigned to the natioual rogetable. Here as well as there the crop has more or less failed. The Irish yield is estimated at about half crop the English is probably DO better. Again, however, we are assured that foreign countries will send us enough, and are actually sending us enough, to make up for our deficiencies.

In October, 1870, imported 1,170 tons of this useful root in the same mouth of 1871, nearly 4,000. But last month, owing to the assumed scarcity and the attraction of high prices, we actually received 85,400 tons of potatoes from abroad. The consignments reach us from various quarters of the Continent, especially from Prussia, Belgium, and France, The aggregate crop of these three countries is believed to be not less than double that of Ireland in the best of years, and large quantities can ingly be spared for us. It is remarked also that Ireland, notwithstanding failure of the crop in that country, is not likely to compete with us for the foreign supply. The Irish farmer makes up for want by economy.

If one half of his crop is lost, he coutrives to live ou the other haif. This was done even ten years ago, when there was much poverty and pinching, bat no famine whereas, since that time, the condition of the Irish sinall farmer and labourer is immensely improved, and his power of withstanding an adverse seasou has been strengthened in the Sadie proportion. therefore, ou authority not to be lightly esteemed, and accordiuz to caloulations obviously probable, we may relieve ourselves of all serious apprehensions as to the harvest of the present year, while it should not be forgotten that a rainy season like the present contributes most serviceably to the water supply of the country- supply which during the last three or four years has, with much damage to the public health, been exceedingly defective an- many parts of the kingdom. Lord Zetland is to succeed to the vacant place among the Knights of the Garter, resigning the Order of the Thistle. This, however, is not to be taken as implying any difference of rank between the two Orders, as Her Majesty considers that what the Garter is for England, the Thistle is for Scotland.

THE LATE MR. R. -Me. Robert Palmer, who for searly 40 years Berkshire in the House of Commons, was buried jesteriay afternoon in the family vanis in Sonning churebyard, Reading, those who attended to show their respect tor the memory of the deceased were the three members, Mr. Waiter, Colonel Lloyd Lindsay, and Mr.

THE SCUTCH MARRIAGE -Lord Gifford has for the last fortnight been engaged in the trial of which illustrates the peculiar of the marriage Seotland. The beir (since dead) of one of our oldest baronetcies, and to a apien id Highland estate, foil in love with the daughter Klinburgh fishing sackle maker in her father's house, of the family, offered marriage to parties themselves there and The law requires no formal mouy for the completion marriage, bolting it suf ciens that the did, with a matrimonial interchange their consent, Marriage is thes allowed proved other may proved, questiou in dispute in the the A the but muela of its through being oat of the cane in vatimely Magazine COURT CIRCULAR WINDSOR CASTLE, Nov. The Queen, accompanied by Princess Beatrice, and tended by the Dowager Dacbess of Athole and Lady Augusta Stanley, drove out yesterday afternoon and Majesty walked and drove this morning accompanied Despatches were sent yesterday from the Colonial Office Princess Beatrice. to the Governors of Ceylon, Hoogkong, Labuan, the Straits Settlementa, the Australian Colonies and Malta, ELECTION INTELLIGENCE. ORKNEY AND SHETLAND.

The Orkney mails, wiich DOW CROSS regularly, yesterday brought farther intelligence of the political contest which being hotly prosecute! by the frieods of both Sir Peter Tait went on Monday to Shetland, be pretty sure of receiving goo i deal of mpport, as be is of that division of the county. Mr. Laing's committees, both in Orknes and Shetland embrace nearly proprietor, both Liberal and Conservative, and his confidently will poll fully two in Orkney, and least equal Sbetland, other hand, Sir Peter Tait's friends maintain be will command majority in the Stromness district, where there are 500 electors, while they admit that in the Kirk wall district, with 700 electors, the degree of success less striking; a fair wean between the assertions on both sides. The impression seems justified that the odds pretty strongly in favour of Mr. Laing's Sir Peter has denied that he was ever a Conservative, while his oppo.

peats insist he was, and the fact of his baring kept out of his address to the Shetland electors the paragraph in that to those of Orkney is favour of disestablishment is being very successfully agaiost him. All parties are getting tired of the contest, and are loud in their complainte at the delay in issuing the writ. FORFARSHIRE. Yesterday meeting of held at Kirriemuir by Sir James Ramsay, after be bad addressed the meeting motion was proposed in his favonr. To this an amendment proposed, to the that Mr.

James w. Barclay, of Aberdeen, a more and person to represent the county. both being put to the meeting the amendment was carried large majority, It was on authority, at the at Mr. Barclay would come forward if any spect of his being well supported. Mr.

Barelay as one of candidates for Aberdeen when Mr. James Parley Laith elected. KINCARDINESHIRE. Sir George Balfoar arrived in Stonehaven yesterday, and along with his agents called apon a number of the electors. He net with a most endial reception, which augurs well for his success shouid any contest occur, Mr.

Baird, of Cry, has formally intimated that he will not come forward the present occasion, and seeing that Mr. Nicolson, af Glenbervie, has repeatedly declined stand, sad no other candidate will enter the fell, there seems little doubt that General Balfour will succeed. WINCHESTER DISCIPLINE. a semi-publicity. am, Sir, yours obediently, MACPHERSON.

Blairgowrie-house, Blairgowrie, Nov. 28. TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES. Sir, From your leader of the 97th inst, I find that De, Ridding has, unintentionally no doubt, not made it rent to you or the rest of the work! that my son did appeal to bin previously to being tunded bat Dr. Ridding decided against him, and handed him over the tender mercies of the Prefects.

You say, Nor is it so clear could be desired that he (Dr. Kidding) exacted any apology all till it was demanded by the father." Not only is it true that Dr. Ridding did not exact any apology till demaoded by me, but he did not exact oue even on the receipt of my first letter and it was not until Bishop Wordsworth bad also written to him as my request that be exacted from the Prefect the private apolozy, to which, he left me to learo through the papers, he afterwards gave THE WAR OF THE SCREW STEAMER KINSALE, On Thursday morning the four members of the crew of the screw steamer Kinsale who were saved in the late catastrophe on the Waterford coast were brought to Clyde by the Dublin steamer Duke of Leinster, which arrived at Greenock at 8. a.m. After abort stay in Greenock, the men, whose names are Jaba Martin, mate Neil M'Lean and Angus Nicholson, seamen and Charles M'Donalt, winchman, proceeded to gow to report sheruselves at the Clyle Shipping Company's office there, and from these four survivors of 30 persons who compose! the crew and passengers of the ill-fated ship, we glean the following additional particulars of the disaster of last Saturday night.

Mr. Martin, chief mate of the Kimsale, states that when the Kinsale sailed from Cork, on her return Saturday evening, a heavy gale was blowing. The storm increased in severity as the vessel proceeded, and in the afternoon it considered advisable that the ship should run for shelter to Waterford river, This ment in course of being executed when, the being then in a line between the Hook and more, the hurricane became terrine in its force, and tremendous sea dashing the ship, the engine-abaft, doubtless on account of the stress pas upon it, gave about Ave o'clock. The vessel at this time about two and a balf miles from the shore, and, all on board realizing the danger of their bat position, the the crew immediately commenced setting sail, force of the wind that the torn and carried away as each sail was put The drifted two miles while the attempt being made to set mil, sad, last resort, while only half mile from the shore, the anchors were cast out, This served drag to some extent and for time; but last the chains and the vessel drifted raphily on to the rocky shore, striking aft first, then slueing round broadade of, All now given up as lost, and just before the striking of the vessel ou the rocks the mate scrambled ou to the bridge, and while doing so a beavy sea which struck the ship immersed him to the waist, Captain Anderthen, he observed, bolding on to the rails on the port side of the bridge, and the mate eried to Captarn, I'm afraid it's all up with The reply from the luckless commander was, there's no hope, John." Another tremendous sea then struck the vessel, and the mate for safety jumper of the bridge plank, and was again alruost covered until the great relume of water had swept while another of the men saved, M'Lean, was wholly under water, and narrowly escaped being swept the the deck. On the sea withdrawing the matereturned to bridge, and said to the master, "Good by, Captain Anderson.

oft We will never meet in this world again. The captain seized the mate's hand with a firm grasp, sad said, Good-bye, John; God bless These were the last words of the master heard in the ship, and the last person seen by the mate on board. The had struck the ground and fast breaking up, and every one had to use his utmost exertions for his own safety, mate made his way forward best he could in the darkness, sod through the breakers that were now lashing mercilessly over the ship to the forecastle deck, from which be leaped into the water. mediately before this, M' who the frat of the survivors who sprang from the steamer, doffed the greater portion of his clothing, boots, jumped from the forecastle into the boiling surf, and after battling manfuily with the gained footing on the shore. Donald and Niebolson followed sion, and the mate left the ship All shore safety, bat another danger itself.

They found themselves at the foot of almost perpendicular, elid, the scaling of which seemed a sheer impossibility. However, the mate, M'Lean, and M'Douald with great difficulty, and after extreme caution, to scramble to the top, but they believe that they would not bave reached the heights had it not that the south- west wind was so strong that they actually buoyed up and pressed against the face of the cipito us rocks by ita force. The wet state that the inforthat they were saved through the exertions of a woman named Humphrey is not correct, although on reaching the summit of the in a must exhausted the Late especially being greatly prostrated, the referred to, who deserves credit for the help and kindness she afterward manifested to the men, assisted them te place of safety, soas to preciude the possibility of their in their falling over the bigh rock into Some of the Coastguard stationed Dear the place also came to the rescue, and were ioformed by the three wow ho had reached the top of the bill that Nicholson stali in a cleft of. the ruck, and by means of the Coastguard ladder their coutrade was landed safely with that his left arus was found to be broken. no The also fired a rocket over the bows of the injury, save Kiasale, which was now fast breaking up, and one on board the ill-fated craft made himself fast to it, He must, bowser, have slipped from the soose, attached to the was a portion frock, Endeavors were made to ascertain af suy of the persons on board could be rescued, bat after these edorta bad proved to be futile, the four who had saved proceeded to the adjoining of Ml Humphrey, medical obtained and Niebolson's broken arm They there bospitably entertained until Sunday evening, they left Waterford for Dublin, and thence sent on to the Clyde.

The men lost all their effecta, and when they left the barefooted and divested of of elothing, The men corroborate the statements the idents i the neigh bourbood acting the When the Sunday morning, be pro the beach to there of bodies being ashore. On his an found that a number people were strolling abous in state of intoxication, the spirits which had washed up on the beach having a tapped and their contents of freely. On the survivors of the Kinsale in Glasgow yesterday they interview with the owners, who treated them kindly. A was started in Glasgow afternoon on behalf of the families of the passengers and sailors by the wreck of the steamer, and lastevening had subscribed, The Clyde Shipping Company beaded the Mat with and a number of other contributed each.THE ROYAL -On Thursday an inquest held at Portland on the bodies of William Edwards, Buagon, sod Catherine Irons, who lost their lives through the wreck of the Royal Adelaide, was stated that the captain left the ship shortly after she leaving at least dozen women on board, A subscription list has been openel as all the hanks in Weymouth for the relief of who have lost everything of which they FOUND DROWNED. -Yesterday morning some engaged a boat River their to the body of a the as It bad evidently tor some days.

budy was removed to poorly attired, and was alous.

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