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1st tbeUelted WedroVm at th ium tart daty TIJj l(Ur rt Wrt Imported from Ih Maarfti nj.U'nnifch coson In An erics and the Writ I (, "And petitioners will ever rrsy." Mt.rrtoro wwild leave toth discretion of ihf dlrrc itrt Individual rrrsent lb petition to th bouse. fltwvsU tarrest. thst Inmuttd to fact rer" M'" the itk oidi si ixoimnu Kh CFoI S14 thst be observed In one of the 1st Or. Vesta Cevwril.c'stcd from Ilrighlon, lb lUlcmctvt of hnMtsat fact whtrhwss certainly new to him, snd which he kdjsrrcww rquil'y root of tht Osr. Tb ordst io question was iiMmHil to lb swprrln.

amoral about lo be established la Canton, and amongst nVbeta conubted ire slowing paragraph And hcreaa tre6crrt of the (Jtnese (lovrmment resident or neir tsatca. la th cmrlrt of runs, bit signincd to ih supra. rarrer of the India Company at anion, the desire of rhetGettn'oraent lh efJectuJ provision shosilj be made by be the jesad order of all Hts Majesty's subjects resorting 2 Canton, and for the maintenance of peace and doe tabor. dlaatiea aatontt expedient that effect ahoaM of giw to restonal lc demand of th aald Cfcl Br Ooversment now, therefore, in pursuance of the aaid aot aod In eiroitlon of th powers thetrbv In Hit Maiestr tsCosncUls tbat behalf tewed, it It berrbv ordered, Ac Me wwald wish 10 know from the hatrmsn whether tuch a trqwrat bad bren preferred by the hincse Oorcrnmrnt to the Con ptnv through their sunrTrarr rs In Canton and, if a whether there would be njr objection to lay a copy of the' diwment before the tswrt Th oriititul rmalnljr would Vitbc mo ttuaorduiarr doconrat ctct exhibited in thl be woulJ hate one of the paren thai aed bren laid beke the trim romniittee read, and the boo. weirtor voald then percctte that it tu vtxibaMr the docu.

Beat that vu tie rd in toch a U(tht by Hit Ma.ttttr'i Oo Xte cirri tbrn read an ediet which bad born Uurd by the Vlrrrer of Canton, anadlnir to the reported approaching dl. (oration of tbr torapanT. and intlraatin that tef it oc tacrd, the merrhanta ahouU trannnit home adtire to their GomuuieM md oat a chief who nndcntooJ tbe bttine a Kprrlntrnd its maaaement in anion. Sit Foailt expreaard bia u'ter aatoniihment that tuch urdirt athat, It arrrvrd, in 1IOI, ahould hate been Watrd on lli Maieaty a a colourable pretext for eata. bbahtaf tnoae court in anted.

ho had ctct before heard a fortlro rower taxing upon itacll to catiUUh couru of taKict ia th donunxat of an independrnt I'nnce He Wit ach an auenipl would be attended with tbe moat dlaaa. ba conrsUOVT Don' proprietor went on to rpeak in ure terra of condemnation of tSedutie which it waa pro ward to IrtT la the port of Canton upon all ahlpa trading Bom India there, f.w the purpoae of delrating the expenae MMidant roonte eatabliabment of upcrinicndanti In that and other pt on coaat of Cb.na. Ctptxin Crow a had not ecn the order in (jueatlon. ftrfcapx the Chairman would hare them read. Tbe Ch ai nan aald tbey had appeared in the Gatettr, and had not been aent to tbe Curt ot Dirrrtonu The director were not at all mponoihle for them The hole rcpon AiSty rrrted with Hi Majcttr' (oiernmenu ifi regard the daty that waa to be imposed on India thipa trading to China, tbe (out of I rectom had made the atrorgen pro.

wn, both in public and in pritate, ariinM it impot'tion. Mr. WttPlxc thoutbt thoae nprtintendenu ahould be tbe lowubwticncrAl at Tnetie and other place, out of the conaolidated fun J. Captain ttowx" diMented altogether from the propoaitlon that thi countrr bould be made to par for the cxpeiue in. ddeetaltothe defence and protection of the trade ot India with China.

Hating been in the countrr, he bad not read the Order in Council which had been alluded to, but he thought a neat dearable thing to reacne the Iiglih ubject reii dent is China from the anomalou ar.d aburd cour of justice (if they could be called court of juuce) 10 whoe juria dicuoa tbey had been hi'berto rubjeet there. It would be a Dom happy circumstance if our (rotcrnment could induce the (orersmcBt of the eleatial Lmpirc to admit aomething tit intennedUte couru there for that purpoae. Of court, Oorenunetu did not contemplate anything foolndi a the orabhahrsent of independent court of justice in the domi. niont of i fcrngn Tower. Tbe cocrenauon bexe dropped, and the Court then adjourned, EL TISl.

AT LLOYD'S. i ttterday a tery namcrou meeting of the mbtcriber to IJotd took place, for the purpoae of appomung Kruuneer fur the ballot, on tbe quettioo that tbe committee ahould put tbrmettea hi communication with Mr. Alderman Tbomp on. with tbe tiew of inducing him to withdraw hit letter ot mirnatioo at Chairman at Uord a. t'poo the Drrri Cuaianxx (Robert Dewar, prvtmung the aerutineer, Mr P.Ciili THtl! hoped be might be allowed to take that opportunity of correcting a mliiatement which be had Bade at tbe Ut meeting.

He had auted that Mr. Alderman Thotsptoe had tucceeded Sir. Marryat, whereaa, in fact, he had iticoNdcd ilr. i. He had prerioualy informed the Depaty Chajman of thu drcunutaace, and be as anxioui an It to tbe mecunf Mt.

AWrnr.an Thcmtsov withed to know whether Mr Carrutben bad not receited on Thurrdae Ut a letter from lit. Marryat, Interning him that he (Mr. Can albert) wa wrong ia tappoaing that Mr. Alderman Thompaoo had taoreeded the writer father at lhainran at Lloyd'; and rather Ratine, that Mr. Carrutbert had mivt pinnated the wr.ter feelinga, when be aaid that he (Mr.

Marryatt) had retired from the room because he felt hurt at not bung elected to tne tacant cnair i Mr. Ca1CTBEE aaid he would antwer Jlr. Alderman Tboaroon't auettioo by reading the letter which he had receited from Mr. Marryat on the subject alluded to. Mr.

Carrutbert fcere read the letter, which wat to tbe following effect: The writer Mated thtt Mr. Carruthrr vat rrnortea the Ounroun Dewpapcr to Care txid tnat Mr. Alderman TbeVspton waa elected in opposition to the ton of tbe late chairman, Mr felt much gnered the result and added, tbat be had tierer been a candidate far tbe chair, and tb. to far from being grieved, he felt satis fsakpo at tbe election of Mr. Alderman Thompson, whose lot would not, in bit (Mr.

Marrrat') opinion, be easily applied by tbe tubaenber to Lloyd' In reply to thi letter, be (Sir. Carrathert) sent a note to Mr. Marryxt, in wtucn Rated tnat r.e at glad ot tne opportunitT anoruea him of correctisg an crroncou report which had been pub Labed of the ttatement be had cade at Lloyd's. He denied that the word gneferer escaped hit lip in reference to Mr. Marryat.

the purport of his words being that a report pretaUed in IJoyd'i that Mr. Maxrtat felt sappointrd, and yaatly to, at not being cbosea to succeed his father, whose exertion on behalf of the subscriber to Lloyd's ought neter lo be eflaced from their memory. This was the substance of the obaerrauon be made on this point, which had not been correctly reported in the fivardion newspaper, though he was perfectly ready to acquit the report of any Intentional misrepresentation. Mr. MattTAT, M.P., said he wat only anxious to remote tbe impression which the reported speech of Mr.

Car ruthen was calculated to produce. Tbat gentleman wat Baled to bate said that "be (Mr. Marryat) wat opposed to tbe elecdoo of Mr. Alderman Thompson. So far from that being tbe fact, he alwayt thought that the set rice which Mr.

Alderman Thompson bad done them, both there and in tbe House of Commons, entitled him to the honour of being the chairman at Lloyd's. (Hear, hear The Deputy Chairman waa about to put the quettion respecting tbe scrutineer to the meeting, when Mr. Maiitat moted the pretiout question. In order to fit Mr. Alderman Thompson the right of 'peaking.

Mr. Alderman THOMrsov then aald, that before he proceeded to enter into that explanation which he felt bound to oftrr to the meeting, he felt it necessary to repel the unfair tsfcrcacc intended to be centered by Mr. xrruthert with respect to his election to the chair, (tries of No, no," and great confusion, in tbe cudtt of hich the Chairman rose and re jneated patient bearing for all parties. Ill understood that r. Carrutben intended to hint that he Sir Alderman Thomp.

son) urproperlr pressed nward bit seniors in opposition to xbote of Jlr. Marryat, and he was to dear the cor rcemeta of any tuch Inference. Hating adrerted to this point, be should now apply himself to tbe business which bey were called upon to discus. Alinougc the subject matter of ditnuvion bad direct reference to maclf personally, yet from tbe publicity that had been giten to their discussion on VCednetdar laat, the subject wat not only of importance to those within the wall of that bouse, bu in fact, the eyes of the cenanereial public was on the entire of that day" proceedings. He would therefore proceed in a open, cand and straightforward manner to relate to them etery circumstance that had reference to bit reurrrreat from the chair at Lloyd a.

(Hear.) L. pan hit return to London, after an absence of teteral weekt, be wat waited on by two hon. fnend of hit, who were his cnOeaguet ia tbe Committee of Management of Lloyd's, who inforrnedhim that dissatisfaction existed in a certain quarter Lloyd's in consequence of hit name hating appeared in a cucderland newspaper as joinuprctidcm the Mxrtne Insurance Company, and that it was desirable tbat abokld gite tbemaaexplanat on to counteract that feebng. He brm what re would now relate, namely, that he had been applied i0 in the early part of August by tome gentlemen at VunderUad, m.it his name to be placed in conjunction wuh hi hon. colleague Mr Chayter, at nce preaeat of the bunder land Joint stock Insurance Company teat the objt of the comt any was tuted to be to insure Mejfbt and goods, thipt hatmg (by the way) been for a great jengtt or time insured at uoderland by tanout association at toan.

He hesiuted not to comply with this request. Because be considered ih.i it nM aAr interests of that port, and In no egree interfere with the interests of Lloyd's, forat.imch as experience qualified him to know freight and goods the being ehietly coals from the port of banderland were sWom inturtd at a3 did not deny that be regarded the compliment, and that be considered the vbe ataoaaikn would be highly be oi ta a hnmane point of new, by affording the no, in the etent or talpwreck, VStSP thif lmUiCT redu" t0 Ofportul ay of Insuring property. He had Intariablr felt that place be represented, whether it was the dly)f or tbe borough of CalUagton, which he did tor tk was btraad to afford to his constituents all the ad of his name to any lnsutution of theirt, if bit doing by them at calculated to promote the wiL.il hd Thta eontertation wat held Tjw tue ewmmittee on the baturday moniicT, and on the Wlowiag he wat requested to attend a special coUeagws, the It wat reported rf wfL0 "cWion which he had firen had failed i7nW tna' thought that no course would 3Jory but bit resigning tbe situation of Vlce Preal. Insurance Compaay. (Hear.) He waa a concession which In honour be (be" ba)f kat be would willingly JJhkretignaiion of the chairmanship of Lloyd's into he would do so forthwith.

According. IhVlSST50 mnto' "'r xa, be trantmiued to which the chairman had read at the teadering hU resignation, hating been in toBlbat tmlrat he did to a letter would be put la clr. Um It he had been toSrT hto "lo wfith tU Sundetlaad As Tht fact wat, that the company' adter 12 n7 lh SttaderUnd new.paper. (Hear, host) He held ta hit band fs letlrf. wTrrten to Mrn tba etisbmsw ajl k.

jf i SSL wu. I. 'iZL Jv" Trr' ttwiaseqwesKw tw tne ootenauotu which Mr. ki I T. Pww to nat man at tbe last meeting, which he would now read.

(Th ben. alderman then nmi the letter alluded IA. whieh waa lislxt ik liik and the. object of which wat to bet; the boo. alderman to dlsrontlnwe hit connexion with the company, If that would IJoyd Highly as be talued tbe gentlemen who wrote tbat letter, be shook), on principle, refute to disconnect him.

with tbe company, bettering, aa be did, that bit connet. with It would not Iwerfet with tbe discharge of his dutlet at chairman at Lloyd'. (Hear, hear.) Howetrr anxiout tome persons mleht be to had fault with those who held place, be thougl that h'a pat sertice entitled hint to sme consideration. (Hear, bear) He bcllered, after all, that his great crime waa bis holding place, and hit present situation bad been admlraWy described by the immortal bhakarearr, where he atyt ir I am tradaeed by tongue which neither know Mr facultie nor rVtltngs, yet win be Trie chroniclers of mr dnlngt, let me say, 'Tls but the fa of place, and the rough break Tbat tirtue most go through." rerbaps he mieht be allowed tommrim iMa In proof of hisdrt're for the prosperity of Lloyd's thtt he was not one of those who had effected insurances with Joint tock ompamea and if all the other subscribers bad been equally true ta the institution, there would wot now hate existed a stntle marine insurance company. (Hear, bear.) He confessed, that unless the ballot showed a derided msin.

titytn hisfatour, re hoild not be content to continue the chairman of Llord'a. He would now prvered to make some obaertationa upon th tnitaiementa contained in the tpeeth reported to haie been delitered by Mr. Carruthcrt at tbe latt meet'ng held in that room. tlr. arii turn rose to order, and ald that Us tend menu had been misrepresented by the reporter, although no doubt unintentinnallT He mutt, therefore, protest against ant comments being made on what be had neter uttered.

Jlr MJrrman TitottrtOK said that be alto mut protest against charge ruing forth to the public respecting him In hi character aa chairman of that bodr. without hit denial of them being aa publicly recorded. (Hear.) The first paragraph in tbe report of hich he had to complain, next to hat rela'iie to Mr. Marryat, wat the one in which Mr. Carru.

thers wat made to describe hit case at being a parallel one to that of an ioditidual who bad applied to the committee to be admitted a member of Lloyd', under the denomination of an insurance broker, Insurance broker, underwriter, and bro kers, being the onlr persons entitled to become member of Lloyd's, but who turned out to be not an insurance, broker, but cl rk to the Mutual Insurance Company. The next point which he had to complain of was, where he wa charged wi'h making the chairmanship of that houte a stepping stone to political inttuenct. (Hear.) In that part of Mt. arrutheis' speech he was reported to hate instanced as a case in point tbe honour which he (Mr. Alderman Thor ipssr had acquired in becoming the representattte of "ll ln threw tuccettlte Parliaments.

Hear Nt a. bow stood the fact in respect to the matter hr, he was elected cha'rman of that house on the 10th of Mar, IR2s and a address to the titlrena of 1onJon, as a candidate for their tuffraect, was the 2.ith of September, IITi'i plausc Thus again the hon. gentleman aa reported to htte giten a quotation trom.a auppo ed speech of his at fun JrilAnJ The quoutioet ws rrinted In asterisks, and was as follows "I hae the honour to be chairman of Lloyd's and you cannot therefore intrust your shipping to a better man than me." (Heir ow, what foundation wat there for thi ttatement r.llc had referred to the report of the sptethe which he ta well aa his eloquent proposer and seconder made at Sunderland, and he could not find in thrm the slightest allusion to Lloyd's. (Hear, hear Mr. Carruthrrs had also, and ln no tery complimentary rosu ner.

amused them st the last meeting wi.i the s'ort tie "fit and the bull," quoted from a book which, br the way, ocght to be found in the library of etery well regulttcd niir cry. Hear," and Uachter.) He thought hit friend (Mr. rruthert) could not do better thsn study well the succeed. hich was cnutled the Jackdaw and the Peacock." Hear," and Uughter.) As Mr. arruthert had alluded to the underland election, perhapt he should be in order if he quoted a tVrt paragraph from the Hull Adrertucr.

Mr. Aiii'THri I err interfered, and asked If what he had said at II ull had anything to do with what he had said at thtt meeting (Hear) TheDErLTl CHAiEMAV said he wat placed in a difficulty. He had allowed observation to be made at the last meeting respecting Alderman Thompson' speech at bunder land, and he thought he waa justified ln allowing a reply to be made to those observations. Hear. A tbort and tery irregular discussion arose on the question of order, which as put an end to br Tbe Pert Ciiaimax requesting Mr Alderman Thompson, a a personal tatour, not to rroceed further with the matter Mr.

Alderman TiiOMrtox felt no hesitation ln at once comptyicg wuh the I'eputr. Chairman request. then thanked the meeting for the patience with which tbey bad listened to him, and sat down amidst much applause. Mr. fa iu the in said that he regretted that the con.

scientious and independent discharge of hit duty a a member of Llord'a should hate Induced him to mske tuch a speech as he had that dae delitered in justification of his connexion with the Jotnt stork Marine Insurance Com pinr at Sunderland. He declared that he wa far from being influenced by any personal feelings toaards the hn. alderman and it ws therefore painful to him, after hating been a subscriber to Lloyd's for 30 years, and after hating uniformly been opposed to the encouragement of Joint ttnck Marine Insurances Companies, to hatemoutes imputed to kim for bis conduct on the present occasion br which he bad neter been actuated. (Hear, hear.) He rejoiced that the worthy alderman had appeared among them that dar.a well on hi own account at on tecount of the whole body of me uoscrioeri to Lioyu a on nit own account because an unjust statement had guoe forth tha aha tHa hon. association, composed of the first merchants ln the world, who well knew what wat due to decorum, were prepared, in the etent of the hon.

alderman presenting hlm aelf in that room, to nrlrr him a rrnaa inault No. Mr. Alderman TriOMrso said that no statement of the kind had eter emanated from him. Mr. Cakrl tucks The hon.

alderman had stated that it was mentioned to him that to great wa the feeling of the room against him on account of hts connexion with an insurance association, that, were he to come into It, a letter would immediateir be written to expel him. Mr. Alderman Thompmik said that the statement he mtde wat this, that he wat informed that unlrtt he tent in hit resignation a letter would be addressed to him, calling on nlm to ret'gn. Mr CAiXLTHtli wa jure that no person need beappre. hcnsite that the hody of gentlemen meeting at Lloyd's would act in a discourteous manner to any one of their number, and the proceedingi of that dar completely proved the truth of that obsertt'ion.

He bad on a former occasion alluded to the paper which had been put into hit hand br two hon. gentlemen, subscribers to that houte, respecting Mr. Alder, man Thompson' connexion with a Marine Iniuranee Company. He considered himself unfortunate in hating that paper placed in bis hand, but he felt bound to act upon it and of tanout modes of proceeding, he adopted that which he considered the most honorable, namely, he communicated tbe matter to the committee, and left It in their hands. The hon.

alderman had endeavoured to be tery fxcetiout on the subject of nursery tales and he Mr. Carrulhert) ought perhaps in faimett only to regard at a jest the hon. alderman' ttatement, tnat the Sunderland Insurance Company wat established solely for tbe purposes of humanity. Mr. Alderman Thom psox.

I did Dot say thtt the company was esublished solely for the purposes of humanity that, howeter, is one of its objects. Mr. Cairutmeis could not assent to the correctness of thi representation of the purpose of the com pant. It object undoubtedly was a commercial operation. (Ioud cries of A sscaMBta Alderman Thompson joined the co pany for a humane purpoae.

(Order, order The OeriTt CiiAiKMAV trusted tbat Mr. Carruthers would not be interrupted. The wisest and fairest pUn wat to hear evert speaker patiently. Mr continued. It wa apparent from the company's own prospectus what their object waa.

It was there stated that the establishment of the association would supply a Jen Irratum in the north of Kneland namelr, a Intnt btock Insurance Company. (Hear, hear.) They further stated, that the compary would be conducted on the best principles, and would present an opportunity of effecting in aurances on goods, on coals, and freights, foreign and coastwise, without the Incontenience and delar at present occasioned by distant communication. (Hear.) Whatever conception the hoti. alderman might have formed of the harmless charterer of the Sunderland Society as a competitor with Lloyd's, it mutt be abundantly clear that if buninett were to flow into new channels it mutt to a certain extent leave the old. (Hear Indeed, It wit perfectlf manifest that the company would not refuse nv business, if the premiums and iniuranee suited the'r convenience.

Hear He had no right to complain of the establishment of this new company, but he did complain of the conduct of Mr. Alderman Thompson, who, being chxirman of Llord'a, ought never to have allowed himself to be appointed chairman of any Marine Insurance Company, without pretiouslr corr municating to the committee at Lloyd's. (Ioud cries of He had at the latt meeting declared tbat if Mr. Alderman Thompson would withdraw from tbe chair of the Sunderland Association, he arruthrrs) would willingly vote for hit retain' ng the cba'r at Lloyd's and had he known what he now knew, that Mr. AldermtnThompson wat determined not to ditconnecthlmtelf from thatcompany.be should not have continued hts argument on that occasion.

Mr Alderman Thompson had charged him with saying that he(AldermanTbompson)had endeavoured to gam advantage in hit election at Sunderland by hi connexion with I Joyd's. ow, he could assure Mr. Alderman Thomptoo that he had read in a northern newspaper some obtervatlona, fringing, doubtless, from the editor, stating that the hon. alderman had taken credit to himself in consequence of hi aoDolntment to the chair at Lloyd's. He had not, however, alluded to thi circumsrance with any Invldiout feeling, fot he thought that any gentleman holding tuch a situation might feel justly proud of it and he knew not a better recommendation that the candidate for the representation of a seaport town could bare than the possession of the chair of that room.

It was in the tame tplrit that be had alluded to the influence which hi lituation a chairman to Lloyd' git the hon. alderman in hit caneaa for the repreaentatloo of the city of London. The hon. alder, man bad Mated that hitlnturincet were never made with Joint itock Companict, bat alwir In that room and by hit look teemed to Imply that he (Mr. Carruthen) went to companies to effect hi insurance.

I Mr. Alderman Thompson. To effect tome. Now. he Mr.

Carrutbert) wat an agent, and those around him knew to what extent be had effected in. sarancei ln that room. Hut though be waa bound to go to that place where be could effect them tbe cheapest, yet hi had not deserted I Coffee bouse. He could have gone over and over again to companies, and with the aid of one clerk trans acted business la three noun wnicn naa taxen rum uw wnow day to transact ia that bouse, though assisted by two or three clerks. (Hear, hear.) Hiving been brought forward rather prominently in tnl an air, leu i ni uuty to neciare, thai.

In his opinion, the boo. alderman having accepted tbe situation of Vice President to the Sunderland JoinUttock Premium Association, ought not continue the chairman or a member of the Committee of Lloyd. (Load and general cries of" So deeply Imp wis i was be with this opU nion, that had drawn up two rswolutloos, which he would now m4 by wwy of node of motion tot dlKUMbMrtthwMxt meeting. Mr. Carntthert (hen CcAchtM Hi ooterratiooskr reading th following resolutions, which be aaid be sbomld support at id proper time apoa general principle, and not uvtn any notuury toward tit.

Alderman 1 nomason Resolved That it Is the opinion of this meeting that no Mbtcriber ta IJotd'a who shall svm th sllnsltna ml ratal. dent, tice prrsident, honorary or otherwise, chairman, director, actuary, or clerk, to aay Joint stock Marine Insurance Comnanr. in London nrlnulr otlwr nUr, In flreal Rrltaln. thail be eligible to be elected at a member of tbe committee for managing affair! at Lloyd's (applause), and that if any member of tne committee shall accept any of the abote men tionrd tltut Ion, tuch act on his part shall immediately disqualify him in respect to hit remaining longer a member of the committee." (Loud applause.) ilr. Alderman TllOMPSOH did not deny that the Sunderland Premium Company waa a commercial establishment but he believed it would be verr beneficial to Sun derland, without at all Interfering with the operation carried on at IJoyd's.

Mr. Marrtat, M. tsld he had not attended in th roam for the last tire years, but It appeared to him that the subscribers were losing tight of the purpose for which th institution wa originally established, and that the place was assuming the character of a debating tocietr. (Hear, hear With respect to the question formally before them namely, the appointment of seratineers he d'd net fee the nereltr cf proceeding further in the matur, as Mr. Alderman Thompson now declared he would not retain the chair, unlcsa a Urge majority of the lubicribers thoulJ declare In hi fn our The Petiti (hairmaw staled that the ballot hawng been ctlled for, mutt, according to the forrot of the houte, be prurccdeu wtiru Mr.

liARroiD said be bad signed the requisition for the ballot, though he did not concur In the propriety tbe course pursued by Mr. Alderman Thompson; but he thought that the gratitude of the subscribers was due to the hon. alderman for past services, and he therefore trusted tbat he would con tinue to be tbrir chairman. Hear, hear Mr. Sltap said the question ror them tocontider wis, whether the committee was right in representing to them that Mr.

Alderman Thompson, in consequence of accepting the joint presidency of the Sunderland Insurance Company, was unfit to continue longer their chairman. (Hear All difficulty would be removed if the hon. alderman would glre up his connexion with that company, and erase to give the sanction of hit name to it, while chairman at Lloyd's. The hon. alderman said that thtt compinv would proe highly beneficial to (Mr Alderman Thsnpton.

Not at the expense of That wat mat ter of opinion, and it wit their business to see that their lntrnts were not He thought that, on principle, Mr. Alderman Thompson ought not to continue to hold tbe two appointment. Alter a few word from sir. Alderman Corrt Awn, Mr. V.

SADLra thought the subscribers would do well to past over the Inadvertence of which Mr Alderman jhon pson had been guiliy. in consideration of the valuable scrvicts.whitb, from past experience, they hid a right to ex. peri rrom rim. (near, nra'.) Mr L'aut hart said hi. hsd come preDtred to rive his tote against Mr Alderman Thompson but after hearing hit manlr and ttraightforwird explanation of hit conduct, he felt bound to give It in his fivour.

Hr looked upon tne appotnm ent of Mr. Alderman Thompson, at Vice President to the Inurarce Company, aa merely honorarr. The cru''necM were then annotated, and the Drnutv hairm deiltred that the ballot would commence from that hour (hal' pas I o'clorl) and continue until o'clock. On the motion of Mr tarruthers, teconded by Mr AU dcrn an Thompson, thanks were givin to the Deputy. thalr mtn for his conduct In the chair The following wa the mult cf the billot on the Question that the committee thoald put themselves In communication with the haltmxn, to request the withdrawal of Mr.

Alderman Thompson's letter of resignation ror the motion 24 Against it 3)0 wWettl by tnttUtr to gfn birth to a lUyUbshtv She wltbed rn to ezamtae ber id ascertain her weetrnancy, which I rtfutsd to da. Kb then todwlg ed ia tirade of abas gainst th JUyal Family, called them warper, and said arw wa to bold the crvwa of England. 8b wis tery violent against the Royal Family. I did not tes ber again till the had been admitted into Flaher.houte, Islington, which was so tbe 31st of October, I83L 1 hate reasoned with ber oa the absurdity of ber notion, bat the would not liaten to me, and requested I would rooter letters to her hatband, th IHk of Cumberland. I refuted to contey thou letters, no then wrote several communication on paper which the insisted had been forwarded to ber la reply to ber letter, in defiance of my amnion that I had not conveyed those letters.

Yesterday she 'entered a paper to me, which contained the foOowteg Yoa know woo acknowledge me ta be Queen of this countrr. sad yoo. Dr. BuiberUnd, thai be pbytieian la attendance." I refaaed to take the letter to Royalty, on th ground that I should be sent to the lower, and slv. "llh mind I wtn release you." I In a utxeqnent communication, which was read, the ex pressed as much aversion to the Duke of Cumberland is the h1 respect la her former tetters.

In another letur, she con sat that they would Duk this met a txresnoal xWncnt of persassaoa and appeal to th sockets of their friends else where, to reflet thcaatejee rrom so disgraceful a engma. The fact of th ease, which were cootaiasd ln the report of II i Majesty' Comooitaloneri, wen tbta that rear 17W Dam Sarah Hew ley. the widow of Sir John Hewley, exe cuted certain deeds of trust, with several person who were well known in the history of that period be of Presbyterian and Trinitarian principles, conveying two manors in the county of lork, with their appurtenances at will as divert other lands and hereditaments, situate la tbe whom are all thfnTVa 4P jJfX, one trantlator Wrwtea Ooiaof "fP wWt the doctrine JVS. SarfoSLcto and th. design aa! ttTmXZ rjzzLytzrj.

th. wiswinr v. an. mm county, for the following purpoae To pay sod divine favour. cannot JBVVlidi dispose of tuch ram ot money, yearly or otherwise.

wpporwl by the aatborgy ot a to such and as many gwdly preacher foe tbe tlai generally prevail refcrassr th. ooctrin. of ys being of Chrst's Holy Gospel, and to such poor and godly mtch let conrrrnin; atUartotlJinwrtaWTis widow of poor and godly preachers of thnst's Holy eefScsey of tbe merit of Christ. Otherrptsxaloa ot ttotpel, at wen time, and foe so long, sad accoraiag to sucn nor importance oauxnwi wius usii dbtriburiona as the rrcsuea and manaeer foe tbe am bejlg necessarily arising oat of them, w. refuse to 1 4 artrr mould think fit, and employ tuch sum of mooey la tuch oniy unwortny ot u.

curia, cosrsan, ma manner (xr the encouragiag and promoting the preaching of favomrabl to human rat, ssvd aapwraawo, bat aa autsu Chritt'a Holy boepcl In ueh poor pLacss at tbe said trustees derild of support la th. laagvag of either Jaws nj TI I .1 sn.rt.w Ha vmU atst atanw. frvan SSaOthSa Patwag ni of money towirdt the educating of tuch voung men designed lor the ministry of Christ, never exceeding hte it the same eluded by tpeaklng of a tision of a blood head which hid I time, and the midu nf i.irri wvmira arm to be emclored appvmreu to nev, wnicn she said wat explained to ner at the lor tel eving such godly person rn nt ob.ecu of CO.VfISSIOX DK Ll'VATlCU lyQVIHES'DO A commission wis executed yestcrdty afternoon, at 3 o'c'ock. at fononburv.houae Tavern, before ommiaainnera i nuumorr, inslow, and lllunt, to inquire into the state of mind ol ladv named Rebecca Johnson. Sir II.

PoUnd was the foreman of the jury. Mr KissrtL, who appeared in tupport of the commit lion, observed that the lady who was the subject of the inquiry possessed accomplishments and Intellectual attainment that were enjoyed by tery few women. For 54 yean she wat the source of happiness to her family and the delight of many distinguished persons, with whom she was on the most tannine terms of friendship. No degree of attainment or arute ness, howeter, could site her mind from tbe dreadful milady under which she now ltboured, and her rclatltet were reluctantly compelled to seek the aid ot the law, first, with a view of putting her in a place of safety, and, srcomlly, to enable her mends to receive her Income, as she was incapable of aigmng anr document for it. The delusions under which Mis Johnson laboured were first exhibited in lfCtO, when she withdrew herself frim her friendt, shut herself up In a house, and devoted her whole time to writing.

he fancied that she had been called by dod to fulfil the highest functions ln tbe kingdom, and that she was to ait on the throne of 1 neland She believed also that only one person was competent to share the throne with her, and that person waa the Duke of Cumberland The letters which she wnrte on this subject to the King and the Koyal family contained expressions of the most surprising nature. Her communications to tbe Duke of umberlaau were not answered, and she therefore selected from tbe newspapers, from tbe periodicals, and the new books, most of which she read, such passages as the considered applicable to her own case, and viewed them as answers which thw KwyaJ Duke id Sus.asa'.d bee laiirrv Another dw lusion which she laboured under was that she wa pregnant by the Deity, that her infant wat to be the Kmanuel at whose birth the world would be regenerated, and a new aeries of tilings would commence for the bent fit of all mankind. She made preparations for the birth of the infant, and wrote to her brother to prepare for the com ing of her babe, nhe consulted several medical gentlemen, who told her she wat not pregnant, but she said she was con vlnced the was with child, with Kmanuel, who would becosie tbe Saviour of the world ln a letter which the addressed to the King on the I'rth of September, IKS she commenced in these word A letur addressed to the man called the King of England, the monster eating up his people at bread the montter who It now piying ininy person to appear aga'nat me, more particularly illiam Palmer, at Alrssrs. Illttneton Because i couiu tell tnem ol tnat which would hurl William duclph Irom his throne." She then applied the terms nlUin, blasphemer, and other epithets to the King, asking, if His Majesty knew she wat guilty of tret ton, why did he not puniih her. she concluded by stating thtt the had I rod lor ner friend, and signed herself Kebecca Regina." 1 he learned counsel stated some other circumstances, which were sftcrwsrds pro ed in evidence.

Mrs. Ann Finemorewa first examined She aald Mlas Johnson lodged in my houte from December, 1R28, to Octo ber, IK3I. 1 did not observe anvthtng particular until twelve months after she came, ln April, 1831, she began to fast. She wrote a great number ot letters, some ot which I stopped in June ln that rear 'several of the unfortunate lady's letters were here identified by the witness. They were written on coloured paper, and the penmanahip was really beau.

UtuL (Joe letter, addressed to Airs, rinemore, waa read, in which she stated, ou made an observation about my riving swsy things that yoa considered would become useful to me. In to doing 1 am obeying the great command of th King of Heaven. The property ii his gift he give it to me, and to him only am I responsible. He ha lntrutted to me the government of the people of these Isles." The whole of tbe letter which she addressed to the King was alto read. After commencing in the language above mentioned, the stated When William duelph resign hit throne to me, I shall ascend it with Lrnest of Cumberland, with cavalry, infantry, and music, and everything tbat can make my entry into London triumphant." she then repeated teteral Scriptural pat sages and said, "It is 1, Kebecca, (rod hss chosen Queen.

William (iuelph thail take me from prison from the prison in my own house and deliver to me the four miscreants who have oppressed me William South, commonly called Sir John mlh, Brougham, Chancellor of Kn gland, and Ijord drev or dray. These are the four principal tools that persecute me." In another I art of her letter she said she had prepared a narratitc of htr grievances, which would be read in the Houte of Lord when she took her seit on the throne. She aigned the letter Kebecca Examination continued Miss Johnson wat In the babit ofnddresslng a grest many letters to the Koyal irmly, tome of Lich were sent to the rost oTicc. In 111.11 the laid the expected to be Queen of England, and sometimes she said the Duke of uruberland was her great favourite. I made a satin drest for her in April or Mty, IK3I, and the said it was for some great eient, but she did not sute what.

Twice she put the dress on, and she said the expected to be fetched the did not sty by whom, but it wis to be by a great personage. After Dr. tirinville hadtitited her in June, UU1, the appear, ed confused and agitated, tnd laid she wat with child, she did not imagine she wat with child in the common course of nature, but by tome supernatural means. I was neter able to displace that belief from her mind. The child, tbe laid, wat to be the Pnnce, the Saviour She said he had been bom, and that he wat to be born again a Prince, and would tit on the throne of England.

She tent for Dr. Granville herself, I did nst know for what purpose. She managed her property herself, and, I believe, prudentlr. I hate no hesitation In saying she wss insane after Dr. tiranrille visited her, but I did not beliere ber insane before that time.

1 now do not think her ht to take care of her property. She used to glre money to tome poor people that the laid the wis kind to, but in larger quantities than necessary. She tent the money in letters, 10 to one person, and "it. to another. When I remonitrtted with ber the aald it was the will of the Almighty.

After Dr. Grsntille visited her, the talked to me freely of the wonderful etent that wat to happen Since December, 1830, the had not gone beyond the door of the house, except Into the garden. Mr. James Leech, surgeon at VtuxhslL had attended Miss Johnson 10 or 12 years. He wat called to see her in September.

1831. She said she wis pregnant. He said be did not believe any such thing. She wa very angry, and almost insisted he should mske an investigation, which would convince him. He made soch an examination as convinced him she wss not pregnant, and she wss exceedingly sngry with htm for not sgreeing in her opinion.

She said it wss a supernatural conception, and not an ordinary pregnancy. She wat about 50 yean of age. He visited her tt Fisber hout three months sgo, and she then laboured under the same delusion as to ber pregnancy. From what passed be wis of opinion wis not of sound mind. Ann Fowler, servant to Mrs.

Flnemore, said the carried a letter from Mitt Johnson to Dr. Uranville. Miss Johnson did not ro outside the houte for several months, and she said th. would live on bread and water, which she took three times a day, and fatted on Friday. She dressed herself, and knew th value of money.

She lay on a toft, hiving discontinued the use of a bed some time. Dr. Sutherland examined. )n the 7th of October, 1831, 1 visited Mis Johnson at Henry place, Kensington, at which time she was impressed with th ides of being pregnant. She said she wss pregnant, and asked ma as to ner condition of body.

I thought th. looked very waQ, bat, not satisfied with my remark, she withed to exhibit her appearance, and exposed her naked leg, to show th. purity of her blood. oh. aaid that sb.

wa head of Ixrd (rrey, and said (Jod it my kind, my tender father, and husband. He will, and shall ti.ht the battle of the Insulted Duke of umberland, md Earl Orey shall find what it it to fall Into the grats of the wife of tbe Briaih Dr. Sutherland then tsld I think Mist Johnson It a lunatic, and Ii not to be trusted. Aet'pg unJer tbe influence of divine agency, the thinks the it justified in making her way to the throne. Her expression are most vindictive, sod of a ntture to ahow that the 1 exceedingly hostile to the Koytl raiuiiy.

nen tun ner, the It In the habit ol rorenng her face with a handkerchief, as the It sware I can discover her thoughts by lookinr at her countenance. Dr. Sutherland concluded by saving thst he did not consider the was com petent to take care of her property, at he thought the would Indulge in purchssing rxtrarigant biby linen, if not restrained. She took animal food now, but during six months could not be prevailed upon to take anything but vegetable diet. The CommiaaionrTt and Jury then proceeded to Fisher bouse to titit Mist Johnson, and great rare wis taken that no other person should enter the building.

On their return a letter which Miss Johnson hsd written to Dr. aotlierland a day or two since, with th Intention that it ahould be centered to the Duke of Cumberland, wss read. It was rreclsclr ta the same efleet a the former communi cation. The( hiei Commismoxer adJressed a few observations to tbe jurr upon tbe evidence, and altera short consultation they divided, when there appeared to be "I gentlemen In fa tour of the followtng verdict That Rebecca Johaton Is lunatic, of unsound mind, and not competent to manage her own aflairt. and that tbe hat been in that state since the 21st of June, 1S31." Three gentlemen only objecting to that tcrotct, it was recorded.

The inquiry terminated at 10 o'clock last night. TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES. Sir," C. in your paper of to day, would endeavour to mike It appear that the only question between the merchants md the Malta (rovernment is, whether the new ta ritis are likely to prove or not a greater infliction or more ruinous to trade than former regulations. It will be a lutficient reply to refer him to the record of the Colonial Department and the Hoard of Trade, in hich he will hnd that many year previous to the promulgation of the new tings the mer chant in Malta and Ixmdon had constantly urged, I at, the Impolicr of the petty exaction under the head ot custom du tie: Jd, the injustice cl the quarantine duties and charges, which last part of the subject omits altogether.

On that part of his letter in hich he would limit the complaints against thete regulations to three gentlemen In the Malta trade," it is only necessary to refer him to tbe urgent memorials which have been recently made by tbe native as well as Iliiiish merchants in to the Local (iovernment and to the olonial Department. Alto the admirable working" of the new tariffs, it will be found somewhat similar to the operation of the system which preceded them the gradual destruction of the commerce ot the island, the consequent beggary of in Industrious people, tad the alienation or their itiectiont from this country. Dec A TR VDEK TO MALTA l.Air ItKI'ORT. the sai I Dame Hewley's chsritv By another indenturs of I.ady lies lev conveyed to the same 'rustee a new erected houte, used for an alms. house, situate within the city ot ork.

and directed that out of the rents and profit of the rrsidne of the premises the trusters should raise the yearlr am of end distribute the same for the tupport ot poof people placed In the hospital, and that tbe trustees should place in the hospital ten poor persons, wberkof n.ne to be alwiva poor widows or unmtrried women, so long a thev ihaH continue such, being of the tge each of them of yeirt and upwards, tnd the lth person to be i sober and pious poor mtn, who might be ht to rny twice a dav. evert morning and evening, with the rrat of the poor of tbe alms. bouse, and in default thereof the lftJi lo be a poor woman, qual hed aa the other." The deed also contained several lulet and ordert fcr the regulation of the hospital, among which occurred the following Ix every slms boiy be one thst can repeat by heart the lord's Prayer, the reed, the Ten tommanument and Edward Bowles latecniam. lady Hewley died in the tear 171, leaving Dr. (oulton, a dissenting minister of Trinitarian principles, tbe sole sir.

viving executor aimed in her wiL This gentleman and Mr. Hotham, who professed similar princip'es, were the first rreseher it Siv'ourgite chaprL, the place of worship where Lady Hewler rtmlarlr attended. Dr. oulton was ue ceeded by Mr. Neweombe Cappr, who was described tt a young dissenting minister or indigent circumstances, and tre first person who introduced Arian principles, and afterward Unitarian." Mr Wellbeloved.

ho was the theological tutor tt Manchester College, in I'nttarUn estab'ishment, sue ceeded Jlr now received a salary ol U'U per annum from tbe charitr. all the oualibcatlont required the tnut deed being entirrlr disregarded by the present truster. Tre learned counsel proceeded to how thtt the tundamertal tenet of the Unitarian creed were rtctly opposed to the Tr'n tarian doctrines prom algated at the chapel which waa frequented by I ady Heley, and that they must hate been held as blaspf nies by hir Ladyship and Dr. Coulton, who wat a gentleman professing high Trinitarian doctrines. He alto traced with gre precision and tbilltv the historical character I tbe I mtaruna of that perod, ana the manner in which they were unirersally diararded br all sect of hrKttans.

in order to how that the Presav enaat and Independent DisTters who received the aupp art aid protection of ber Ladrahlp were the most noUnt ooponerts ot nitanan principles and that, thertt re tlat ot believer was the very reterse of the class ot indi'ldualt selected aa the objects of her charity 1 remained a doubt on the ubieet. that doubt would bertfectuallv removed by a most Im portant which he begged the particular attention of the Cvurt. I ne regulation ot the hospital req i rcu mat every alrnsibody should not only be acquainted with, but "learn by heart" the Iord's Prayer, the Ten Commandments, the reed, and Bowles a latechism. and he would ask the Court the same termor), that Mr. Wtiftslored tattsidanii th.

MCrfampravjtigTuncaasadthuUsvoaiUBOb. 1 1,1 t. mt Christian con tempUted by Lady Hewley." Of aa certainly an 4o the hand of Christian fellowship: bat many they who kite as, who reproseh us, who sanm ns from their eom parv, tnd cut out our nam a evil." A mora catttact acknowledgment that they wer. discarded by tr and ttood entirely alone, could not be given. Bt ther.

wj one other pastaeeto which be would esll the attention a the Court Hat tt win be ssia aeny tut bchj, refuse to acknowledge him a th teeond th (rodhesd, we do not allow him to b. on W. with the Father coetemal and coequal, rran Go of d. We eonfet th. maa Christ Jesns, bol dear Ma a thst lneamat snd tufferinc and dying Ood wnka he it believed to hv.

been by ail others what beat hi name. True, we do deny th. Jems of th. snd Ntcene creed, of tbe Htnrgy and article of that bl ibed church, of th confessions of faith adopted sltaect by all the churches of ChriKendom," eke. What.

h. wsss.4 ask, must have been the feehag of horror with which Lady Hewley would hat regarded tuch tenements, snd what mast hire been ber Indignation to find the trnmbstratien of her charity transferred to the band of an individual who ctwsM give utterance to such unchristian sentiments I Al th. present perod of time custom might have familiarised as with tacit opinions if we dM not btUev them, bol laxdy Hewley waa unaccustomed to hear them." It was only for a man to 8nnf from the established form of religion to tread oat of the beaten road, to frame a new path, and walk fa It, ta the popular applause. But a still mar exact denoU tlon wss to be (bond in a sermno of Dr.Kenrick, on. of the principal npporter of the Unitarian Association, lit tats' If other hare established a distinction between those essential article of faith which cannot be rejected without perdition, snd the non essentials on which men may easily istgataltakbythhTaton.

ferlanowofno cS irch which dors not regard as essentia! thos. rerr articles which our name impHe reject." It come to this that in opposition to etaf other Christian church stands the Lni trn et th se art th. persons who insinuate thtnnselt. into the chanty, and ssy it wss intended for them. Th.

learned counsel alto referred to the Unitarian creed and th. sermons ot Dr. Taggard, Dr. Carpenter, and Dr. Chanolng.

frrtmwbicf. he read extracts of a similar deacrirxwo. flavin eatablitlHd the doctrine which these Individuals really did profess, he should proceed to show in. nature of lb establishment called Manchester College. It was a college mad.

of for the education of Unitarian ministers, bat it would do for any Protestant Diaaentcr, for ao particular mod. of faith I taught there. The object 1 not to Inspire youth, or teach them sny particular religious persoatioa, bat they tn taught the Bible, ao4 Jlr. eUBeaovco, woo is uiau theological tu lor and djretor, leave them to form their own lell 4mTT I lUCVUglC4M IUM1 MM Wt IMW WGm. MM.

I I li 11 Hiirf itl nsiUast eotAOrltS Wl it it wasposaiDie rot any sincere ana oonvm i a isiuui tc that Catechism with any other feeling, than those of horror mode of public worship, or one better cafcalated fr snd alarm. That pin of the catechism to which he more COURT OF CIIANCE'llY, Decembm 18. the aivo or srai v. maihado. Sir E.

Srt.DEV moted this morning, on the part of Mr. 3lendUab thtt the sum of tll.OWV. paid into toe Court of Common Pleas to abide the itsue of sn sctlon brought by Mendltthil sgamtt Machsdo, the agent of the late King of Spain, snd which had been restrained from being paid out by Lord Eldon, might now be remoted. The fact of the case out of which thi proceeding arises hate been frequently detailed In virion! application! to the courts of law and equity. They ire, thortly, thst MendirihiL a merchant at Cadis, In 1B3, advanced a large turn to the then Constitutional (internment, which had tied before the invasion of the French to the Isle of Leon.

Michade, the then Treaturer Oeneral of the (Iovernment. agreed to tc eept bill for these advances, payable out of the funds set span at the treaty of Vienna for the satisfaction of tbe claims of Spanish subjects in I ranee. Before the bills were regularly accepted the Constitutional Government hsd ceased to exist, snd King mlinand being released, and having disavowed all his former sets, refused to pay the debts contract, ed by the (ones. Mrndinbal commenced proceedings agiintt Machado in thi country, snd had him arrested in the suit which bejiid commenced tor the sum which was the subject of the present motion. Machado, being a foreigner, wat unable at that time to hnd bail tor to large a turn, and, therefore, to recover the freedom of Ma parson, paid lbs tnoosy into lbs Cowri mt Cvimuo Pleas, hi which the action wss brought, to sblde the proceed ingv I ocJ Eldon made an order in the cause which had been instituted in this court, laying a restraint on the sum so paid in until It bad been decided by a jury whether or not Mendiiabal had given consideration for the bill in question, and whether had engaged to accept them according to the custom of the merchants of Spain.

Upon the recent trial In the Common liens the jury gave a verdict lor Mendiubal on both points, and it wit now prayed therefore that the order by which tbe payment of the money out of the fXurt of Common Pleas wss stopped might be rescinded. Mr. Wakefield and Mr. Anderdon having followed on the same tide. The ATTORNCT dENERAL and Sir C.

Wetuerell argued, that as there was a cause now pending on a bill and cross bill, tiled by the King of Spain ai and Menduabal, it wit not in the power of the Court on an interlocutory motion of this description to order the payment to Jlrndiisaal ot the money which wat the subject of dispute. Thst money was not the property the King of Spain, nor of his daughter, the present Queen It wss the property of the subjects of Spain wlio were entitled under the treaty lo receive compensation from it and the a interim (iovernment of pre. tended to gite Mendizibal a lien on it for his advances. had no more right to do so than the (iovernment of tbe present day had either to pay It away or to retain it It wat a hardship on Mr. Mendiiabal to lose his advances, but be had taken the security he held knowing it not to be one that could be depended on if he did not secure the money In time, and he must take the consequence of the contract into which he had thought ht to enter, All these matters could, howeter, be disposed of when the cause came on to be heard, and till then it was contended that tbe money must remain within the control of the Court.

Ills Loinsiur rose at half past 5 o'clock, snd said he would hear Mr. Kuifbt and Mr. Ixitatt, who had to follow on the same side, to morrow morning. Ills Lordship said he should not sit Ull 11, at he nad to meet the ot tne Rollt and the Vice chancellor, in order to settle tome rules fot tbe practice of the Court, which tbe recent act of Parliament relating to proceeding in Chancery hsd made it ne cetrsrv lo frame. Vice chancellor's COURT, Dec.

III. ATTOkKET GENEKAL V. II10SE. Sir E. SucnEM said he appeared on behalf of the relator upon an Information filed by the Attomer.Oeneral, praying, a declaration of the Court that the trusts of a charity founded by Dame Sarxh Hewley in the year 1704 ought never to have been, and cannot continue to be, partaken of by persons professing Unitarian principles, that they belong only to the general body of Dissenter who believe ln the doctrine of the Trinity; that those trustee who had managed the trust being of Unitarian principles might be removed and that the innuil turn oTIHU.

which had been pud to Wellbeloved, aa the officiating minister to the charity, might be discontinued. Tbe question wis i very simple one, and depended ent'rrlr on the construction of several instruments which would be submitted to the Court; for although it would be come necessary in the course of the discussion to say a great deal with regard to the doctrine of hristianity, is opposed to those of the Unitarians, it was not hit intention to preach a sermon on the subject, but only to endeavour to convince th Court that the doctrines professed by the Unitarians excluded them from sny participatisn in the benefit of the charity. He deeply regretted that the argument which would be addressed to hi Honour must unavoidably assume the feature of polemical debate, thst he wss forced to bring the blessed mysteries snd point of faith on which the Christian religion wis based before the Court in the manner it would become necessary, snd thst the Court should be called upon to adiudicate upon a question of tuch a nature. The relators asserted that Lady Ilealey was Pre, bytcrlan and a Calvinitt, therefore thst consequently no Unitarian can lay claim to any part of the charity, being diametrically opposed in Christian principle lo those truth In which the believed. He should clearly prove that Mr.

Wellbeloved, the minister to the charity, as well at the rest of the trustees, were Unitarians, snd ought to be removed. It wis curious to observe with what scrupulous care these gentlemen endeavoured to conceal what their real sentiments and religious belief were. Mr. Wellbeloted was the most backward in felling what he believed he lays, If he believes In Christ, he believes In him according to the word of Ood, and thst he only differs as to the modal form" of worship be slso declares thst he is Presbyterisn of Unitarian principle. knew that there were aome Unitarians who called themselves Presbyterians for very obvious reason but inca th Act of Toleration they had thrown off the mask, and openly professed whst tbey really did believe.

Here arose the difficulty of the present ease. If th trustees hsd manfully snd honestly told the Court that they were Unitarians, a very small question would have to be decided between them! bat tbey ingeniously evaded the question! they laid they were quit sufficient Christians for the purposes of being sdmltted to the bounty of the founder of the charity, snd if you should tak them In what tense you mesnt th term Unitsrisn to spply, they would tell you whether they were Unitarian or not Th objects Ml tuch etasiont were too clear to be misunderstood and they would hnd that It ni not because tbey had satumed tbe garb ofth shepherd that they would be permitted to slip Into tbe fold and enjoy tbe profits arising from this charity, which amounted to no leu a sum than 3.000Z. per annum. The question wss on of the greatew Importance, not only to the great body of Dissenter, who, he contended, were properly entitled to th. bounty, bat a lntolving a question which had understood went to affect almost the very nlMiM of that bodv in the character of an estsblishrd as soeisrion.

was informed that no sect la th. kingdom ttood in tnor ad of Mrltnnc. than the They panod with their (anas very illiberally, andh hsd no doubt Dartirulsrlr alluded ran in these terms In what condition did (rod make you 'Righteous snd happy. Did man continue ln that etttte 5 So I hste fallen from It by tin. What is tin 'Transgression of the law of Ood.

'What wit the tin of our first pirenu Eating the for biJden fruit. What wat the fruit of that rating 'It hDed the world with tin and sorrow In what condition is the posterity of our tint parents bom 'In sinful and miserable conduim. Wert thou born in that condition es I wis coo cetted in sin, and am by nature a child of wrath at well ss others. Hsth thy life been better thn thy birth 1 hste sdded tin to tin, tnd made myself above measure sinful. Whst If thou thouldst die in the condition thou wist bom and bred in 'I should perish everlastingly.

Is there no way to get out of this sinful snd miserable itate Yes. It it to be done by mr power or righteousness of thy own 'No, but (Jod, in hit rich mercy, hat appointed a wsy. What way hath he appointed (mly ny Jesutcnntt. What I Jeu Chriit 'The Son of Ood, manifest in the flesh. Whit hath Jetut Christ done for men ue hath laid down hit I fe for our redemption.

What further benefit hate we by htm Lite and salts. vn The Court would perceive thst the founder of the charity not only believed in the doctrtnet of original sin and the atonement, but rriuirea tne catecmsm wnicn mcuicaieu those fundamental doctrines to be learned by heart by every alms woman. Eterv man who read this catechism admitted It waa Ucidadlr Trinitarian, but the defendants, who denied the doctrines of the divinity of Christ, original sin, and the atonement, did not hesitate to say that no catechism suited them so well aa Bowles's. He next referred to Sir J. Hewley's will, dated lhK2, which contained the follow.

Ing passage I commend my spint to 'tod that give it, hoping to hnd merry to me i sinner, snd to be saved by the only "lcntsand rrediation ot Jesus Christ, my alone Saviour and Redeemer, and my body I commit to the earth from whence it came," cU. Iady Hewley made her will in tbe year 17ll7, in which this rxiression occurred I first commit my immortal soul into the hands of my dear Redeemer, to he washed in his blood, tnd mide meet to be partaker of the inheritance of the tairis, and I leave my vile body to be dis po e4 ol by my executors wuh at little ceremony at may be." He then reterrcti to several other documents which, he contended, estrblished be rood all controversy that the religion! sentiments ot Sir snd Lady Hewley were strictly Trinitarian. 11 is next posuit waa, that all the penal statutes which were passed at that period etduded the I nitsrisn with the Papist, a the rmmic of Christianity, and that these stat'itet were ss obnoxious to the pure professor, of the one creed ss the other. Th leaned counsel enforced this point with grest eloquence, and a vast display of historical research into tbe sute and progress off hristianity st the period when the charity waa founded, which we regret the magnitude of tbe proceedings compel ut necessarily to exclude. He had informed the Court that It wat Impossible to obtain from the defendants what they really did believe he would, however, now put the Court In possession of what they slated on the subject.

In Mr WellVeloved't brat answer, be states that he has al ways, to the beat of judgment and belief, preached tbe pure doctrines of Christ's Holy (opel, and that there wit a great diversity of opinion among persons professisg Unitarian principles, tie did not believe in the Incarnation of tbe Saviour, still he believed ln hi divine mission. After read, ing the whole of their professions, he was left in as much doubt ss to the doctrines on which they founded their creed ss he wat st first. Mr. cllbeloved only object wss to con. ceal and mystify his belief, and In hit answer he succeeded wonderfully well.

He had fenced with them on ettry point and be (Sir E. Sugden) believed that the thumb screws would fall to extract it from him, the man who waa consi dered the head ot tbe sect, the theological tutor an ni tarisn college, the instructor of the infant mind, the guar dian of the morals of the upsprung genius, refusing to itaert the principle he professes, and wishing the world to imagine that he believed in doctrine diametrically opposed to those of the sect to which he belorga. Hut in the further answer ot Mr. YV rllbcloted the fourt would perc.ive that he had dis closed a little more of his real principles. Me says be uniformly represents himself, and desires to be considered by others, as a Protestant 1 sterner ot ine rrtsoyttrian uenominauon.

and at one who hrailr btlievet in the divine mission of Jesus I. lintil. n.i nfhr il rtnnM thn fflii rnntAined In Christ's Holy (rospel, to all of which he yield a full and cor. dial consent Thtt in using the term nitarun," is applicable to himself, he meant thst be professes the following (. hnstian doctrines That to know to be the true (rod, and Jesu thrm whom he hath sent is eemal life, thst it is his duty to worship (od sccordmg to the precept and exa uple ot his divine Lord and who Uught hia disciples to prsy to Ood, their Father in Heaven, and to uk of him what they needed in his name, that it is his duty to ascribe glory to the only trie Ood through Jetus Christ, thtt he scknowledges Jesus Chnst to be the word thu in the beginning wit with Ood," and thst he hath sent hit only begotten "on into the world, not to condemn the world, but iat the world through him might be saved." II took texts of Scripture for hit guidend perverted them according to hit own contenience.

It would perhaps asked by them, are not thete texts of Sen it not our belief, founded on divine reteiauon lie urn mi "tu i vucy from the word of Ood. but was thete sny hri.ri.n tivinr. let his mode of belief be what il might, that could consent to the construction put upon them by the defendant The chspel of Saviourgate had not been mentioned In any of tbe is it would be teen thtt Lsdy Hewley slwsytsttended st the the wat a great contributor to the tupport of it, and thst it mig ht be said to go hand in. hand with the charity, he would draw the attention of the Court to the sentiments of Mr. appeared much more plainly stated in his sermons, ss totally opposed to those preached by Dr.

Coulton before Lsdy Hewley. Some of tbe most important evidence in the i etuti appeared In a sermon preached by Mr. Wellbeloved to raise fund for erecting Lniuriaa chapel In Calcutta. A the sermon would be read to the Court, he would not now offer any extracts. It would be found to teem with th high.

mn.f iolMvt Unitarian doctrines, snd his object In quoting It wis to draw the mention of the Court to whole of the sermon itself, snd not to any particular passages It contained. In another sermon, enntled I tufrwu aotgiuUf vf denying Vie Lord that bought sprarrith. following passage, wnicn wi pwawsas, j.j.... r.1,1. I hi.

L'nitartanlsm insn me ucieu u. antwer seriously, snd ss conciennously think. Im partially examining the word ot uov pamng ow ot ear view th. misguiing creeua w. we hste been led to believ.

that the Oodhead KrieUy on that Jehovah, the creator of all things, th. governor of all ij. md Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Is th only God, the sole object of religion adVtrarinrt, VT. abandon not merely uninteDigibk, bat a onscxrp.

tursl, sH the curious distinctions which hsr been to 7t the divine nature, as consisting of thrs. distinct persons mysteriously united fat on, or of three efuuaeters, three properties, three modes, or threw sb. eocea, whether to any Internal relation of the Ddty IT il lir rrirmsl rcladaa of the Ddtr to mankind and w. ksep steadily to th plain and latefligihl. doctrin mt the Jewish and Christian Scriptures, etpcri.

aUy testifying that 'tout lien btxt en Ood th tithe, of rel giou belief, than to try to bring a man np according to hi own ideas. If tbat wis ta be th man would start a religion for himself. If sll person believed at h. would feel assured that th. ctubusnra religion was conduate and necessary to the happiness ot man bat, ac cor ling to the opinion uught at thu college, 1 left to M.

swn reason; if be ha a strong reson.he may believ all that hi forefathers have handed down to him if a weak reason, he may believe only a portion; if nearly bereft reason, n. may believe as much of it as hi own untutored mind may approve. Dr. Orundy, who wss connected with th. college, had made an amdavit on th.

ubjct, and stated that it wss In high reputation among Dissenting ministers. As to thtr fundtmental rules, be said it wa a proper chool tor Dissenting Minister of all classes, but ln his opinion It might ba more considered for L'aiiarians, inasmuch as th heads were Unitarians. They professed to kstw the student unfettered and anshsckkd, and Uk. ear. not to impress him with divine truths sccording to th.

otitin of the Cbrisdan religion. 11. Calls, therefor, law a scat. Of thing can just comprehend, and if Is ssked to reject any of the great thing of nature, be will reject them as untrue and not existing, because b. cannot cum pre" bend them.

Poor weak erring creature I be rejects by th standard snd messurt of his own frail knowledge whatever cannot comprehend reject, it at aoc. as mworthy of hj ltf. He thought, however, they would do well Itj foUow h. tepof their forefather, and gtr. assent to their doctrines, which had spread through lb.

world on. of th. "emr tyitemi thatever blessed mankind. It was lmposalbl th. Christian snd Unitsrisn religions could exist latntnert on.

must obtain the mastery, on might uproot th. other la the state; whichever wa not lb. master b. th f.ll nimnluiMl br the other. Th.

next object be in view was to fix th. portion ot tne cninty lunoa, sua sw I colony of Unitarians, who by their own mstineuT. reason i naa come to that conclusion to which lb general body had ar rited. Tbe trasteet ot Kossenden chapel being tn arotiDioi an application by memorial to ih. trustees of th.

charity. Thu memorial contained, among other blsspbemous exprsw th Ulowmr bewan to examine lb twctlis. of original tin, a commonly Uught, and thought wt aw sufficient reason to discard soch an anacriptnral, trrarfonal doctrine. proceeded lo examin th. doctrine of th atonement but we cast this ancient alec of orthodoxy toth mole and to the bats.

After ibis w. relinquished th. dotUlu of the divinity of Christ Indeed, th. plac. to which w.

art now arrived is supposed or oar oruvwox nagnooars ww the mystery ot iniquity." 11 entreated th Court ta oMern the pint in which this annecessary Irony, this hitter ssresstJc blasphemy was dressed and yet upon this memorial th. trustee of Lsdy Hew lev' charity had granted th. mao rtalisu an annuity of 12a. per annum out of ih. charity fund.

The trustees were a Utile ashamed of this, snd aald thattb. memorial, which hss been lost, never could tat been couched in such terms, orthy would never bt granted th. anmdty. He had, however, fixed them with it beyond a doubt thnruga the meant of Mr. Ash worth 't evidence, who tald It wa sent to him it the conductor of an Unitarian publication called tbe Monthly Heponiorf.

Jt wa Impotwibl. tor them, therefore, to disconnect ihemseltet ftom th. ntimenta avowed la thi borrtbl composition, and (Sir E. Sugden) knew of no better amidst to such blatphemou poison than the following patasg at th conclusion of lb. 48th sermon tbe great and ptou Dr.

Tillotson. It waa la the words I desire it msy be considered that it is not rmfSsBtW reitoa to believe tome things which ar incomprehewikl by our reason, provided that save sufficient ground and reason for the belief of them epcclally If they be ecsMerning Ood, who is in hi natur incomprrhsnaihle snd wefl assured that he bath revealed them and therefor It ought not to offend that these difference ia th Deity ar inctmrprt bensible by our twite understanding, because th carta nature Itself is so, and yet the belief of that is th foondstion of all religion. There sr a great many thing la natur that we cannot comprehend bow they either ar. or can be a the continuity of matter that Is, bow th. parts of It do hang fast together that they ar many time very hard to n.

parted and yet art sun thst it is so, because ee it yry day. So likewise th small seed of ihton eontalnthtr whole form snd nature of the thing from which they proceed, and into which br degree they grow and et wt slatnlr tt. thi et cry year. There are many thing in ourselves which no maa it able In any measure to comprehend, ss to th. manner bow they tn done snd performed, as the vital onion of soul sad body: who em imagine by what drriceot means ssptrit earn to be so closely united, and to firmly linked ta a mortal body, that they arc not to be parted without great fore snd violence offered to nature The Uk msy said of the operation of our several faculties of ten, snd imgin tion, ot memory and reason, snd especially of the liberty of our wills yet we certainly hnd all these faculties ln owrsefves, though we cannot either comprehend or explain th particular manner in which the serersl operation of them art performed; and if cannot comprehend tbe manner of each operation which we plainly perctivt and feel to a ta ourselves, much lews can we expect to comprehend thing without aa, and least of sll can we pretend to comprehend lb.

lnnnit. Bator, and perfection of Ood and every thing belonging so him for Ood himself is the greatest myttery of all others, and acknowledged by mankind to be in hi nature and la th. particular manner of his existence tncsmprthcnsibl by human andcr tindlng and tbe reason of this is very evident, because (rod i infinite, snd we sre nail and yet no sober maa ever thought thi a good reason to call th being of Ood qwea. tion." Unfortunately, however, for mankind, th Unitarian belief must flourish It il could no municipal laws could pra. vent It.

Ifth Court should of opinion thst they wer en titled to partidpai in this fund, no on. would mora griev than himself, snd believed that none would mora strictly obey tbe law that should be laid down than th parties for whom he sppeared. Th. rand might be sppropnatea to goaa or to bad purposes, bat be should not ssy it woald applied to bad wrasses If tt were decreed ta the tutor sdnilniatrarion of th defendants. could not, howeter, refraia from observing, ia that nothing would ha, ao disturbed th list moments of Lady Hewley a to aarnota that this fund would ever become so mlsappeoprlatea a rt naa dsb py Introduction of then anbelirrcr into that repository of Christian belief which she was sssloas to strpttnat.

Mr. Ksight snd 3U. JWJMU.T sauowto on asm. lid. The cast of th relators, which ha accapsed th laat two days, doted this ttetnoon, and to morrow (thia day) Sir Wethertfl, Mr.

Pepys, and Dockworth, wiBbhxr4 on th. part of the rapcciderrt. COURT OF KINO'S BENCH, OcrtBHxlX, Die If. (Sittmgt at Atri Leu Cauxr JrjtTICX and CrmwmnJurnt.) the snra r. dibjishhx, rsa.

This was an tndlctment on th. siusmilhai af th. Hoa. WHusm PoU Tymey Long Wetletlcy, for a tntiVt srith a horsewhip. Th cat stood for trial ta to day not of corsmoa jary case.

Mr. RiCHatss, oa th. part of tatprnstxului, appBad to resciad aa order of th. Lord Chief Jaatica, cnmd at th insuac ofth. defendant, for th cat to b.

triad by a can moniory, nutsithsunding a rait had awea uiriuslyab tainedontb. tppneadoa wftbw jnmctm for a adal jary. which hsd beta ttrmcx tt apptaioa tnat IB siwaac.ttsr naa withdrawn th. record, tthccsTSdaatthairth.eaatrt down for trial a a eornmon jary eaaaw, sad tnbMwwcntly obtained th. order which waa now naght tetadd Th teamed coaaatl iwiladi'ini tho trstrds wf th twa.

tly ii ladiet. mtst ecniMUtilionlyyth.dal nrkVcJk.bjt4ban Ml.

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