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TJHBTIMESWEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 22. 1860. Ua lfi Mi' a. mUust I EceheurAwias ttl of i00a0oat lb. of net Onva Wit the M' bet twtlmsa pert t4 b5Tw aniiaad 4lt.

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tb treaty to etfeert fir rare of tb Bom WM Mr suboittid le it Ica I dircet std Uact firm ft Bait tow be retarded sad uaza1Ml II a tad. Tie Hoe. had sl to ttb with Fna WM std i If VUa jar Uriaauk. theteaenlscepe i the too bad dwMndly IOZI1DU1W th tatpset sad there wuajMt The ju4 nstaied buds was the tmUoaBftbieeutrytebtmalatauei BiheUthsstte 4 of impettef Uzatioei spa the cm lolly et was to those artlcleiwfcid viii tuck uiennrj eaificeet tt bit wiieft were rfar4oi II tul WW bet. Sfproecbei the teat rieotoommuity tbBataer My wet turf resembled a tat or tax tpea tit ladle tiut eeasaaer.

It wuaeaemry UlmaeauiJenbUnm latW foratl UxUioo. oa property Nt ikeaaeatwM ia hlcoapartIa wfth the levied tpot the tmoewh tics tat Iotun. i tb roes II spirits boa wine la lC the expeasn for niUtarr ftrposts was 57ono00V. sad the retinas rWe4 from aai Ex doe vu 17000001 sad frta starsp sad tn tadndlag tK UI. nt uooom was tb ent of tuada of Kr.

11 the tnatest maa who ter pr4rJlathU torT WI eouV7 sad wbo kmtwsa. r5l bo iMMtl to th hint ii tb utrr that ores wt in s4at popeJattoe. of 2000000 or 3000000 wen inlaid to scats ta save to I Lit arfMlj to the ptsrittba of IOUtlr. they' wt td to be ft of thtrfoud that tb ttpeiitsr wutmriytbator tbpr BWtv tf. bta rOOOOQt for ptrpoM iaolnct taxattoa the 310006004 jid tb ztIe.

taxes raked 55000000. oUtc thw proportion id the sawoat of to. dirtd Wade at a later period utderStrBFielbj UA tl onus of proptHr bad rotes to eoaplaia of U. BM iir stow tide 4 II ufsisj sad ujut. The act wts that be SBMnatef hi se di ra oBat to the direct or the soutq that.

tafiMroatheClsaotlkr et tb Ezsheqvr IIDI4 vpon to rtUm property from hi II it becta bb duty to eMlaf to arrive it son fair et ttucUrps wBlehptteKd soon thepabUs. witarapect to the iu were levied on a or to sad whleh it was tipesid to sboliih eels say that they ed rtAely prohibitory effect so the. eoMrmi sq mesa for tattaaai cold take tie trosbU to 00 the malt or the pnset ntJ el th wii thootit is scald ha fall semi eoaelodon or to that the tridi ia that by a ttl toe. of dttrwUch Se IS WM with ritd to brandy sad sinral oth utteUs of eotaaptloa to LUh a ed aot mot putinlariy aQad Bat to pus to th tioo of tls duty is Piper. out contend that that was a to which WM at vsnaet with tvery prtac1 of rocnd polity and bit only ewe of surprise was that sboudd to lot hen urepealed.

ft. stats of this ti of UM paper WM neh that th Chas. eUar of tbs Etebo bad ao ilbraattn left bet to pr poMltiabatitioa. So mu eosld dsi what paper was far my urpw of span. and th of th scans wete IpU7 It WM loud latp tbU to bold tile Indwtrj of tbecocfitryfa thefrtteriet a ParBaaeatary def ilHnn.

bid df seat th et- of th Is eheqer a rU of atgumear te YOU of the duty writtea a what WM to all nteBfeaadnrpoMtpspsr nd at tb SUM time ed to Mm that St wuaot wpwwltfcla th denaUaa of theExebe 181 could nit tttmfoM eharr bU with dtvf This dit11tr it wiarwM pape elSatleahis with dsty sad what WM set was on which de tBtlf the Excheaasr could rHovtr. Then the rnmpd bad aecBaalaiedtosoeb I trn this It became impoesibl. th rrooaii lit whkh tbnerxemptieaswtre made vet IctgaIy acted tpoato tabe slant sad ltidu aflttls be doM pit al of sarmoBT whh how of th lsdlo- sothit tbeCbuotHorof th Ezebeqiar CIA tin meads tn hid tilenMn bet to thtdsty. advocatod the eholitiaa of WI duty en the broad irandotiadastrr. Iltoodiathtwayof jre ladutry sad tbtrefer Lo loam to 1 toiented.

Boa. taUaca oppcatt a this nb et toonriook it tmpettaoes Miar tictb eoanmptioaofaictictanlprodui Ii insist warn then WM thtwutaofthrw time oasapHon tie HanI prodao blob nuimaeda Batter of ao imam Bow the dot iat rfered with th proems of Ukntt the jQJf tHIIueratJDa of sateen ft vu I for Mm to show. ThtaxbadbteBoadeaiaedDyaeomBUttceofthat Jloue sad be used what the nftlC' tt1tteP had passed such a sow II all article of rcvcaai ItwM rid by Ratloaea owod" test we Ott tat to iboHta II It lei to III iacrc of th tax fat carets of atiMMCTU to fctethMthnwMaa nilpeitioeoatheft tad trttouapoMait brdeas ca ibicgwooU to iudlipcii the people to bear taxaaoaaste them that tb omen of ptuuot wen to shut th pnbUc sad soafht to miaui a tat which tf bdmtry sad petaiuted rsi ones of tb By to mprd till they al us escape lit enniiifnilmi. Tilt tttr wu OOI1 whea the poopte who had been km ktrt boy weald their represeAutifelm to thu lone cozpel them to trt this nbjd a pWa prtndpb of jnttia right. Thnwoald col lccg ibis to euap.

tMr fait tnar of th pauUbard ibeeanuof thtiafloeaee which wealth reek and the present ittie of the sc or Common. fun them. It vu of th ttod tmportaaee thou that they should for th proper eondderidoa of WI neraoa la another HOlt. or He tdmfred the wisdom of th ChsaeeQor of the Exefce er to propociM only to mew the for ocerur. eoaatdtt to th exigeadtsof thtseuoa jlurmr th fu owiilentm of th utU they lad dlepassd of lb.

other emplleaUd saMwts which bad beta set baton them. In a stun enioath7 01114 enibl to IOCIIdcr. hi felly with the of Improved ftetief. oslalslad that ia icy dcanitt shrine of fnane. they nut the tax a tooree or rtCU sad dtermisi whit proportion it should heu to the oth of Uiitioo.

hoped ibis th next bet vu the aid set thttWwlrei to else away ill IK remafllbr Vj etio9i to th vnteat spurn of fliBc sd pot the tax I lot Ind permsneil ovadation. Th zeodt of drtlia with this netUact tag- gej4 the rarlntlei was fr ttt with inooareairaaa and would lajarlwtotht puUkukretts aaithtrt fore shnld vote It. Mr. HUBBLBD morel that debate be now ad. joined.

Lord PAUfEESTOy a hope that th Hoaw wound cot. to a deddoa our th before it our Thundiy The djoarammt of the debate was then speed to CONSOLIDATED rum W7MV. DILL. 011 th motion of tb CrusCELLOI of th ExcusQm BUI vu red lb. third thus sad pissed.

VALUATION OF RATEABLE PBOPEBTY LAND BILL. Os notion for gnat into eomndtte oa this Bill Mr BLACKBURN the itteitioa of th tbCuoeI1or of tb Paehegaer to the lad this meuun urJsfPf I eoaiiilrnble chart. from the pond tax to tbeCotaoUUMFnnd. Its pTIidple vu hl lr oUectiea- 1 adtk Hoow hid sot had an opponwtr of seelaf iu prorlsieas th wcond rta4l11i hariac in baton th Bill was prated. day sbould nor that th faun.

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tin Olrf OCo4 UJ8D08. WtDSKDAT IZEBU181 2215CO. In the RoalD of Lori last tight after I con. Terntioa upon the Constitution of Tasmania in which Lord Dmr the Duke of Nrrcisiu and Lord GUT took put Lord Sttmr morel for coptet or sxtracts of letters from Lord Ewer to Lord MAUrcocir respecting in in China. Lord Etocr took advantage of the opportunity afforded by Lore Sums's moYin papers respecting recent proceedings in China to vindicate hfrntelf It some length from the charges of severity towards the Chinese which had been brought against him.

He proceeded. to mention the differences which had taken play between hima1f and Sir MICHAEL Snxoct and said it was tree be had experienced ranch disappointment In not hrrin been adequately supported in stfaedng his policy under titennrstance. of peculiar difficulties and perhaps his tPatches sight have reflected that feelinz. At the same time be acknowledged in the clearest and frankest man. Sir the service which the navy had rendered him and mentioned among others the exploration by f7apvia 8XAlfi QQIou of a urge internal Chinese tram and the opening up of Japan to British trade.

Their Lordships adjourned at o-'doek. In the House of Common Mr. DC' Om moved the following resolution That this Bouse recognizing the neceuity of providing for the increased expenditure of the fr year is of opinion that it is not expedient to add. to the existing deficiency by die minishiag the ordinary revenue and is not prepared a disappoint the just expectations of the country by re-Imposing the tax at an unnecessarily high He objected to the Budget he said first Bcanse it appeared to him that while it failed grapple with the financial exigencies of country it would increase our financial dtfS- enlties secondly because the principal reduction of taxation namely of the duties on wines and paper was inopportune at the present moment Den us found the tax roved a so high I rats and lastly he objected to the Budget because it was based upon IQ unneoessary and sided commercial treaty. Proceeding to show the min features of our present position and the manner in which it vu proposed to deal with it he went through tie details of the Budget which according to the calculation of the CHLYCaL 101 of the KXCXIgrKA would be said leave I sur plus It the end of the year of 4iOooi.

but the probable deficiency of toe succeeding rtnanri year Mr. Do Cm ed at not fu off 13010000 He asked the House to consider what was likely to the consequence of such a state of things upon I reformed Parliament. Cut off hop the most useful sources of indirect taxation the House would tithe seize with avidity upon the Income. tax as a permanent feature of the revenue and carry It to a length that would make it utterly oppressive and Intolerable or on the other hand. It would provoke an ignorant impatience of taxation in the House and induce it to resort to the led to such disastrous results on the defences of the' country.

After a deviled examination of the policy and of reducing the wine duties ho discussed the proposal to sboliih the piper duty arguing upon the theory of taxation avowed by the Govern men' 18 7i that if there was one to more than soother which the present Administration ought to hays left entirely untouched it was that on paper. Other taxis and other questions mTolTed in the Budget hi lift hi said to their appropriate eham sad proceeded to ha final mjCTmtion that' he gadget was based upon a tided end uncalled for commercial treaty which was. he con. tended neither I trade nor I reciprocity treaty which rat off arbitrarily tarious sources of indirect taxation and fettered the whole system of our tax etiwn for years to come. Mr.

Gown in replying to Mr. DC CLYC de" fended the treaty arguing that its stipulations ratified it against the objections founded upon the trade theory and appealing to examples which demonstrated that large reductions of duty were in. YRfably followed by an enormous increase of consumption. He oomplrme4 of the return nude to the Emperor of the Puxca for the moral con ran he bad exhibited In his adoption of trade prmatpJ- by carding It the manor. Lord B.

Homo thought that politically the treaty could not sowtH difeadedu commercial but here there van inegulisiemand tad anomalies. He pa it to the BOOM whether it would accept web I treaty with aa increased tax. Mr. Bum considered It Budget II the mr best that bad been proposed altos the days of Sir R. Fm.

The pate benefit that couHbe conferred the mea of England was to xtnd our tilde tad irons. our eommeos wd thereby U. lib whkh was their capital men Jmheto bad scarcely scyt2 with indtie flsetoftbe reduction of duties the treaty would be gmUy to extend that or ire. trade Which World be guarantee of peso. Mr.

Imam oouidnI that th offered by the treaty were not to be measured by the run or loss of one side or the other. Fob. tically and eommertiafl the treaty be thought was right. He objected to the motto because it was as attract resolution on I matter of finance which depended upon the circumstances of the times and the exigences of the State at the no- met. He was prepared to we the great sacri fjo5 required by the Budget for the purpose of cementing the alliance with France beUering that the extension of trod.

with that great country was the best security for the prosperity and peace of the world. Mr. DoMOf was inclined to think that the treaty was commercully wrong but politically right The reduction of the duties on wine unless followed by I redaction of the malt duty would operate as a differential tax in rlTour of fortisn wines. He con tidered that social habits rather than duties affected the consumption of wine. But financial considerations must give wy to general policy and it the treaty had the etrect of removing suspicions and enabling the Emperor of the FRCSHX to reduce duties on his tide in his opinion it was worth the sacrifice of some political couiatency and some revenue.

Ute some remarks by Sir. Diwsoy Mr. Cws UT observed that the position of the CXAYCZLLoa of the ExcHE ctx was one of very great difficulty had a large deficiency of revenue 11 a time of etemil peace and internal prosperity inn when upwards or 200000 of terminable annuities hid fallen in. All this di culty arose from the expense of our armaments which close commercial relations with France would enable us to reduce. The treaty and the Dad jet had he said given the greatest satisfaction to Hi constituents.

i Mr. HCOIBNT complained of the small mount of gain which the re reduction of duties under the I Budget would give to Ireland in comparison with i England English consumers would cab and Irish consumers only lie complabed likewise of the retention of the war duty on tea which cheeked consumption. Mr. Drrr believed that tie treaty would be I pt benefit and the passing of it at this time an enormous advantage to Europe. The simplification of the tariff would be an immense benefit.

Sit S. TI cordially admitted the great merits of the scheme before the house and that it contained I great deal of sterling gold. lint gold might he bot1gM too dear and the question was whether what was offered was worth the price to be paid for it. After noticing certain matters in con. nexion with the treaty at variance with free trade principles and admitting the great advantages that ini ht be derived by our trade from the treaty.

which made I breach in the French system of protection he explained his objections to the scheme and argued that the remissions and reductions of duties would in spite of the elasticity of the revenue leave a largo deficiency to be dealt with by a crippled taxation and that this was too high I price to be paid for the advantages offered by the scheme. The reforms of Sir U. PEEL were enormously successful because he had I virgin soil. He dealt with our indirect taxation the direct taxation should now be dealt with but the Government were throwing nay an opportunity of dealing with the direct taxation II Sir R. PEEL had dealt with the indirect taxation.

He could not understand the scheme of the Government tibia it was intended to cut down capon. diture to postpone obligations or to create debt. Mr. A more was or opinion that the general policy which had dictated the. negotiation of the treaty was a wise and discreet policy and that the object of the treaty was just and legitimate.

The general scope of the Budget entitled it to the respect and admiration of the country and no man could impugn it on behalf of the owners of property. It was said to be unjust to reduce indirect taxation proposed by the CHIM rtLwa of the ExvrnRrrat but this was not I reasonable modeof dealing with the elements of taxation-it was at variance with every principle upon which duties upon articles of ordinary consumption had hitherto been reduced. Ho defended at much tenth the repeal of the paper duty. and advocated a permanent tax on I just foundation. On the motion of Mr.

llt21W1 the debate was adjourned. The Valuaton of Rateable Property Ireland Bill passed the Committee after I short discussion. The remaining business having been disposed of the House adjourned at I few minutes before 1 o'clock. It not without reason that Mr. Dr CASE describes his objections is the Budget I empha tioII1 Conservative.

His speech is that of I politician brought up in the straightest sect of Conservatism at the foot of some financial Giu eat whose heart he is poy breaking by the rigour with vhich he carries out lesions that the teacher himself has learnt to think better of. Mr. Dr CIVE is I zealot for the consistencies tie safeties and the proprieties. II. has got up j.

nf and it does not require to go very far bick against the CHANCELLOR of the EXCUE CEB and his present colleague at the office. He holds to the letter of the compact' which the tax has been so long and so cheerfully endured. He can still view it as- a tax for extraordinary occasions and tee no such occasion in the present conjuncture. He holds that till the revenue balances the expenditure there can be no remission and ho cannot regard the tax as put of the revenue. He quotes ADAM Surra when ADO SMITH is on hit side.

Ito believe what ho sees and ho aces that our lower and middle classes prefer malt liquor to weak foreign wine. He sees too that France and England are both arming and therefore may be presumed to be foe who can only make I Treaty for one to dictate and the other to truckle to. Need we say more Is not Mr. Dr CASE thoroughly up to the actual state of things Is he not posted" to the facts of the case It is conclusive against the Budget which by every fact and every rule is a monster a prodigy an experiment a merely cutting adrift of the State ship and sending it down the Maelstrom. So fu Mr.

Dr is the unex. ceptionable exponent of a most respectable view. But when all this has been wd and more when all this has been admitted there remains the question which fifty Conservative young gentle. men might be unable to answer do the existing circumstances of the country amount to an occasion worthy of this extraordi nay expedient' The Budget is announced as such and can only be defended as such. It rests on no common rules.

It represents the accumulated demands of a nation which for seven years has only been able to conduct its business from hand to mouth and has been content to pay its way. Such I measure nay well be beyond the wisdom of an ingenious sad painstaking tyro well read in great authorities in the Debates and one or two books. A mss may be I very good officer and may do his duty in all circumstance. and yet not know when it is proper to give battle and risk an army for I victory nay even when battle may by given without risk. The Budget stands upon considerations out or the usual view of ftaaace.

Mr. GLADSTONE would not belie so niay predictions and lay himself open to the rebukes of a schoolboy but for a great cause and that assess stated by Mr. Do CI and others before him tie threatening aspect of our great military neighbour and the with to propitiate those whom we would rather not have to reduce by other means. When it urged that the Budget would nuke us enrich and strengthen a foe at equal cost to ourselves that is the misrepresentation of a truth. Under WI injurious iiainnation theta is a truth tad that truth is the fig and political relations of WI country with her Continental neigh boon chiefly those who lie nearest.

Now it is proverbial that people see least what is nearest and acquire a stupid familiarity with I that have nothing to lay for thesxlres. wept that they are intimate urgent tnYetmte unkind and unnatural. Let anybody raising himself from the dust of paltry and the mud of prejudice take a surrey of our relations with Witten and Southern Europe that is to say with Prance Spit Portugal and Italy and he will see some thing wrong something for which there is blame somewhere sad for which I remedy much to be desired. The ordinary explanation is that neigh. hours are natural foes but this is bad an excuse between nations as between individuals.

I policy I morality or I religion be good for anything at aQ it must be good for the recon. ciliation of those who have actually most to do with one another. At preset these feelings I come to such a head that Mr. Dr CUI and the speakers generally on his side think it no impro to assume that England and France are arming against one another that the demands of France arise out of the expenses her armaments aint us and our own deficit out of our necessary defences against her. It is also assumed that Spun simply reflect the.

policy and fcelini of France and acts she direct With the Italian people France is almost everything we are nothing. But how stands the matter of finances between us and these nations We are the worst neihboun possible. Their tariffs are almost prohibitive and ours is not much less so. Indeed I regards the chief staple produce of all these countries the wine we continue I duty which hail its origin in polities animosity and which completely excludes all ordinary qualities. There is nothing in this re sped to choose bet woen our tariff and that of France both Le intended to injure and ours alto to insult.

It is under UriffJ of this sort sinking our com. mercUl relations to the lowest possible point that we find England and Francs wasting many millions year in preparations for war and u1iJg everyweek the question whether there will be war and when and how and why. All this is admitted and forms the common argument of Mr. GLADSTONE and his Conservative opponents. But they reason differently upon' it.

Mr. DC CASE says Because there a international hatred jealousy threats of war armaments and a deficit therefore keep up your tariffs don't squander I farthing of revenue concede nothing put off deeds of love to days of peace and finally arm arm arm. Sir. GUDSTO says flecause there is international' hatred jealatfiy threats of war armaments and deficit therefore reduce your tarn surrender revenue gained by ill means concede all you fairly can seize the opportunity of kindness meet the advances of your neighbours ld if possible disarm. The case made out against Mr.

GLADSTONE'S is in fad the case for it. Had the Con. servatives been content to say that there was nothing at all extraordinary in the present state of thins and no more we against I financial revolution than for it though the statement would have required some strength of assertion it would at least hue been logically consistent. la this ct. Mr.

GLASTOSE would hue had the painful duty of making allusions to the state of feeling kuown to exist in France and the countries that reect her politics and to the formidable preparations within easy reach of our shores. He would have had' to claim I profoundly and truly Christian character for his Budget. The Conservatives have relieved him of this part of his task. Mr. Pimm Mr.

lIoR1fu and Mr. Dr CUE and I of speakers an anxious to see the Budget wrecked on i the Treaty have brought out into the fullest relief the feeling which not even treaties not identity of interests not community of arms not a thousand natural ties have hitherto pro- i vented from ruing year after year and swaying the governors of either shore. It is to then that we are indebted for the evince that France is now more formidable and menacing than ever. On this posit then Mr. GUDSTOXK may' spare himself.

He need not convince any of his antagonists of what they see anxious to i proclaim. They have proved abundantly I lamentable state of reeling between England and her nearest neighbours and an 1 crisis of these feelings driving both side to a ruinous expenditure. Here then is the crisis for an exceptional Budget and for tie in. terpositioa of an tax it that wm meet the emergency. It is jut such a data as Sir R.

Put himself had laid down for the use of this great weapon of finance. We use it in the con ndence that by enabling us to lower the tariff it wiU also enable us to win the confidence of our neighbours induce them to contract their armaments and so allow to contract urs also and reduce our expenditure A very eminent writer upon rhetoric has fins tratoi his subject by a story which 10 fu II our' memory serves us we will take the liberty to repeat A certain number of youths had joined themselves together to constitute I debating society and had met to deliberate upon the prelimi nary preparations. First came the choice of sub jects for early discussion and these were of course of the usually grand and dignified description. The question between BRtn1t and CUIK had its ordinary priority and the late of Lord STIUFfOI was again to be vehemently argued. But while i these great matters passed with a ready unanimity some one happened to inquire whether the room in which they net would' be better covered with oilcloth or with carpet This suggestion drew to it at once the attention of the conclave an animated discussion ensued and our authority declares that neither BIttTts nor SrIUFlOD received so much justice at the hands of that little knot of orators as did the subject of Kidder.

minters and Brussels and druggets and patent oilcloths. We my find in the Debate which took place the House of Commons on Monday night I dater example of how iterating ld able I dis- cuuion may be raised upon I trivial and pps. rently unimportant subject. The House under the leadership of the most brilliant orator of the day was bout to open I high argument upon a comprehensive zaagaiScent and perhaps periloui scheme which should alter the interests of every mill in these Wanda and which should change our national relations with all the great countries of Europe. Suddenly Mr.

DU AEU starts up and takes notice not exactly that the floor not carpeted but that ho is by no mesas certain that Sir. GLADSTONE has not put hit left foot foremost instead of ha right foot foremost in entering upon this subject. He had found from I precedent that when Mr. Parr entered upon I similar course i he put his right foot foremost and he insisted that it was the right toot and not the leitfoot which i was proper to be put foremost upon this occasion. Mr.

Gutsroyx proposed to put his Budget rea lutions first and to draw on his Treaty resolution afterwards Mr. Drnim inrsed that the Treaty leg ought to cake the nt step. It was rot I very promising matter of difference but then we know that the Christian world was once divided bout a diphthong and we see delicate consciences In the r.eia--hboub.ood of Ratchg1in7 raking manifest their igosiei on account of tie of I priests auntie. SwUT baa shown us what Important differences nay We among I people when one das may be determined to break their eggs It the big end and another cay cake it point of propriety caljto break their eggs It the little me ought rot to be surprised therefore that out of this II to the precedence to be given to the Treaty leg or to the Budget leg we had one of. the most energetic spirited and even eloquent debates with which the cleat members of the koalas of Conuaoaa haft for some time past been treated.

Mr. Dzsitn had not maebtoworrupon Ire had only that old precedent of Mr. Pin which was rather nutty and not very apposite. But to much the better. When an ingenious liousewift to prepare some enticing confectionery to fnwur a feast but looking into her cupboard finds that uaforteaately she Las nothing kit but two or three eggs and I remnant of pound 4 sugar I merely superficial on would pity her.

But see hot mind proves substitute fo matter. She breaks up those tm she mixes in that sugar she manipulates these humble ma teruL in some mysterious manner the makes cunning use of oven aid of nV iri and p. dually beneath her hands the homely mixture inflates to I new form. A little while and lo the delighted guests see that perfection of nornic skin an onielele itjiee crisp- upon the board. lw vas the achievement of Sir.

DLUW when he made that capital speech which rose rote until it filled four columns of our Tuesdays paper and all out or that wretched Prrr precedent which had been lying so long neglected in the yours. of the House of Commons. It would be I pitiable pun to quote his own wordy and to say of it it was a course worthy of a great party so we shall let that pus But there was certainly a sugary sweetness in the assurance which he gave the country and the present Ministry that he would not take an opportunity by joining intt. Tests which happened to be attacked or peculiar bodies which weremenaced to embarrass or defeat the Ministry that he would not join. discontented wine merchantsor paper manufacturers or those publics of whose virtue Sir.

JAxrs is now the chosen laureate nor Indeed any of those numerous bodies who believed that their interests were menaced by the Government. The speech altogether was I great triumph over the absence of materials. It showed how little true orator warts to make an oration which shall be pleating to the ear IZld which shall give cleat excuse for 230 members of the House of Commons to accompany him into the lobby. He was by turns historical and financial diplomatic and indignantly constitutional. He Improvised I Cuw in the person of Mr COBSEX and ho inveighed against secret agents just as.

it he really discovered in the-person of the mem be for Rochdale a most dangerous conspirator. He denounced everything which he complained he had no opportunity or denouncing and he made. a magnificent peroration yherein he identified this great question of the Treaty leg or the Budget leg with the privileges of the House of Commons and the authority of Parliament. It really a plea- unt to read and reread such I speech II this. Some gloomy prophets presagers of ill are ready lamenting that 400 yeas we snail have used up 1 all our coal and are liking what then will become of our manufacturing population.

But no one reading this speech and referring to its subject can 1 ever tormented with any doubt that happen I what may we ever be deprived of tae enough to raise I good Parliamentary debate. This speech had even a virtue which we hue I not yet hinted. at. It was not only great in itself but it was a cause of greatness is others. It was rot only glorious to create but it was to destroy.

It gave Mr. GtLDm an opportunity of comingforth and demolishing it by I tour de forte such II this generation has seldom seen tTHT CCHCTU fr fIf TTleitlOU TVt etE Mr. GUDITOI hot only broke through the thin emit of Mr. DLSZAxtla and showed how hollow it was but he fTen cruelly tested and round fault with the quality of the eggs or which it was made. He showed that the adoration of the Pm precedent was as ho said I blind superstition that he himself was ta reality actuated by the true spirit of.

Pur and that Mr. Drsuxir was without knowing it the mere skeleton and phantom of Mr. Fox. Mr. i GUDSTO moreover called all the forms of the House and all the history of the put to witaesi adjuring so Mr.

NlwnaaAn who had 1 init exposed himself to subpcma by an ins. cheer that his proposition to give precedence to the Treaty leg was the true proposition and that if he had put the Budget leg foremost as Yr. Drsiiau proposed he would to hue it cut His vu a most conclusive and tic. quent speech and helps us on bravely with our argument that our eloquent men speak best when they have nothing important to uf The discussion never flagged There was contact succedon of fluent talkers anon whom and above whom rose CAIExs and Drmm and Briar tad Lord JOB Rruzu and Lord PwrImO The last imbed up the fight got his adversary up against I I wall and pummelled him with the vigour of a youthful athlete and then the House went Joyously to a Division deciding after a wren hours' debate almost unrivalled for vigour and spirit ca hard hitting that the Budget leg should be put forward first. Thai the assailants got the worst cf WI conflict and it is I defeat not without its significance.

As in old times when two pritu mlim quiz- veiled bout some lady fair ii was I point of do morass not to drag the lady's rime into the i quarrel but to. seek an excuse for the duel in an altercation' about I or I sword-knot or a glove so when our modern parties are rivals for power and patronage they never mention the- name or the fair object of their constant desires but fight it out upon some pretence quits foreign. to their real cause of quarrel. It is in this sense that this defeat is significant. This majority of GS is I serious matter and that division list is a very instructive document We an read it that the i POPES little party has done its worst and how microscopic that worst is.

We read also in it what personal disconteats and individual crotchet could effect and what influence they win have upon future divisions. It was a great eort a very dazzling display but it was as a piece of Tory party warfare I mistake. Wemayiaycf it what the French officer said of the charge Col maim nut pat la The oreaca between the Imperil and Sol Courts is widening every day and begin to re- nbduivery forcibly of an earlier period of os 1 own history whea I King who had signalized himself in tie ranks of Born and from whom our Sovereigns even now ire the title of Dele of another and I purer faith was led step by lie to dispute the jurisdiction to deny the power. aid tocJeaMtheMiaatencfRcse. IftaePorxbu be ready to use the Ianguzge of ompls era of pn he has encountered a spy II proud Jed tmbeidiag him own which retort" upon him his own censures aadaamri to the chars of Impious and rtrolatioaary prrcplei sjsusiag the port with the most perfect truth of nhhgupthbgssacred with things profaneasd treating the of an odious tyrsasy 130 the cloth which covers tie nysimer of altar.

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