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TILE HALT LAKE TMBUNE. TUESDAY MOKXIXG, JANUARY 16, 1917. an no BY LAWSON US THEjNFORMEfl Sensational Session of the House Rules Committee Probing Presidential Note Leak. (Continued from Page One.) oiiiniiit.cc promptly ordered subpoenas for il way. Cosi uve, Warburg, Kisk, J'rli'C White.

Malcolm McAdoo. Gibboney, inn icy and ioinpuny. ry. and K. UuLhom, editor of the Providence who published me articles jiboitt "leaks." Secretaries Tumulty and will appear without subpoena.

With that, the committee adjourned unti tomorrow morn ins. to resume its hearing on the most dramatic charges of and a i he capital has been in many yea i s. Today's sensational proceedings disposed of theelaborate preparations for hold-in- lAWbun in contempt ofthe house for defiance of thecommittee at the previous hearing. A Krcat crowd was packed into the room whenjiwaon arrived. Police cleared an entrance for him.

Probe Begins. With a set of fourteen questions before him, pier arcd bv Representative Len-- i ut, Chairman Henry began to question lwsoii. When he had completed his first quest ion, demanding the name of the congressman who. Lawson said, told him of a cabinet officer, a member of congress and a banker reported to have been connected with the "leak" andalso their names, Lawson rose and saidhe desired to make a statement. "I am gointj to answer your questions," ho begansignificantly.

The crowd, which up to that lime had visions of Lawson being placed in the custody of an officer on contempt charges, settled' back with an obvious temporary loss of interest. Lawson insisted that he first be permitted to make a statement setting forth i hatit was against his wishes to give The names in public. Chairman Henry insisted, however, that Lawson should the questions put to him, and he aid he would later be given an opportunity to make any statement he Despite ihe decision of the chairman. Lawson insisted on making a statement rid pleading for an opportunity first to present his information in secret. Promises to Be Short.

"May I not have just a word?" he asked in pleading tones. "I will be short and to the point. seems to me you owe it to mo to allow me to state things which 1 think are absolutely necessary. am go i nc- to answer your question, if forced to, but I want tomake one more appeal before I answer. "I stated before that my reasons for refusing to give the information I had were that publication of names might lead to thedestruction of evidence, andalso that a memberof congress had convinced me that the matter was serious to the nation andthe administration.

"Rut did give onename to Cln rk. that of Charles H. Sabin. president of the Guaranty Trust company of New York. Mr.

Sabin came before you and was allowed to go away without giving any information or showing his books, Mr. Sabin hasleft the country and his evidence is gone. "I am willing" to give all the names, but I appeal to thecommittee to take all my answers in confidence. Then, if the committeedetermines that I shall make hem public, I will repeat them in public, i don't want to quibble and I don't want to refuse." Hre thecommitteeheld a brief conversation and Chairman Henry Mounted that the witness should 15 wer the questionspublicly. Springs First Sensation.

lawson looked at the committee sternly, squared himself in his chair andsaid in a voice scarcely audible: "Chairman Henry of your committee is thf congressman who' gave me the names." The room hummed with excitement. Members of the committee, although thov had rumors Hint Lawson might connect Henry's name with his shifted in their chairs. Utuson, siient and grave, looked stiaight ahead at the, chairman. Mr. without a sign of! perturbation, waited a moment fur the buzzing 'o subside, and then deliberately proceeded to read the next question for-- I mutated by the committee.

It was merely an elaboration of the first, put in a slightly different language, referring to the fn-- that It made no difference whether the information came to him as "rumor or gossip," and brought a reiteration from Lawson that Representative ilenry bad given him the information in Henry's office in the capitol on January L'. Tlie third question called a tent ion to Law son's statement that he had been told by a broker that a New York banker, a cabinet officerand a senator had a joint stock brokerage account nnd directed thai he tell the committee trie name of the man who had given him that Information. "The man who told me that was Archibald S. White, Boston, of the firm of White Co." Representative Harrison moved, andthe committer approved that White be subpoenaed. Could Not Give Names.

Replying tothe next question as to whom he had referred to in statements that members of congress had engaged in buying and selling stocks, Lawson said he could not gave their names, as lie did not know them. It was in nswering the next question, as to other persons who had given him' evidence in substani ia tlonof his various statements, tnat Lawson brought, in the names of Secretary Tumulty and William W. Price. "White House correspondent of the Washington Star. He received a letter from a Washington woman.

Mrs. Ruth Thomason Viscouti, saying in part: "My dear Mr. If the name of the man who was the in the present leak andthe amountofthe money be ofassistance to you, I can supply the name and the amount he received and give the name of at least one associate at the White House who participated In the haul. "If you are interested. will make an appointment tomeet you at such a place as you may designate." The letter further requested that Law-so- hold the information in the strictest confidence in case he did not proceed fur-- i ther in the matter.

Conferred With Woman. lawson then testified hemade an appointment with Mrs. Visconti, who came to his apartment with an attorney, whose name lie could not recall. After a long conference, he said, Mi's. Visconl i told him that Mr.

Price "had a part in the leak affair between Secretary Tumulty and tiiers." No reference was made either by Lawson or the committee to the amount of money referred to in Mrs. letter. Asked to whom lie referred as the alleged senator, an alleged banker and an alleged member of the cabinet, Lawson said he understood Secretary McAdoo was the cabinet member, H. Pliny Fiske the banker and the senator was a. man whom he had heardreferred to as Senator This information.

Lawson said, came to from one source and was corroborated by another. He was not asked for the sources of the information. Chairman Henry proceeded to Uie next question. The seventh question, asking to whom Lawson referred by say in a member of congress had gfven him three names of persons reported to have been involved in thedeal for the thirdtime brought the reply: "Chairman Henry." The next question and the two following' were virtuaJiy the same. Gives More Names.

Lawson then was asked if lie had any other information in relation to his that another "high official" of the government hail informal ion rega i the that a relative of a cabinet official alsohadbeen mentioned. He replied that the firm of C. D. Barney in Wall street: Malcolm McAdoo. a brother of Secretary McAdoo, and Stuart G.

Glbboney of the firm of McAdoo Gibboney, with offices atthe Grand Cen- tralstation and at 1 i5 roa wa re the men to whom he referred. Speaking with emphasis, lie adder that "the public man whoknew of theleak machinery was Paul Warburg of thefederal reserve board." Suggestions by a commit teenian that there might be other persons who could give thecommitteeinformationof value caused Lawson to say that John R. Ra thorn, managing editor of the Providence Journal, andthe editor of the Boston Transcript might be good witnesses. He held in his hand at thetime a clipping from the Journal which, lie said, referred to "White House leaks," and he thought Ra thorn might shed some light on it. "The Transcript," he sa id.

"had a flatfooted" story recently about one firm making SS.OftO.Oftf) in the market on December 20, and he thought that should be Investigated. Lansing Mentioned- At that point Chairman Henrv took up a list of cabinetofficersand asked Iaw-so- if he had "connected" each of them with the leak. Coming to the name of Secretary Lansinu, Law." on said lie had not made a suggestion of him in the affair in connect inn with he na mes he congressman had given him as being parties to the "leak." "Do you refer to Secrelary La ruung in any Mr. Henry asked. "Yes," Lawson replied.

Henry then accused Lawson of dragging tiie name of Lanping intothe hearing, and Lawson flared up furiously. "I have heldthe names of Lansing, arid the German ambassador out of this," he said. "I have keptquiet when I have been charged with withholding information which I have not, and have been libeled in the press of the country as a result. One of your own members has, snifl on the f'or that It a master of, dispute as to whether I should he in jail or a lunatic asylum. I not have this thrown on me." Interviewed With Henry.

Lawson then rehitel in detail how he had come toWashington at the request of Chairman Henry a nd had called on him his office, how Henry hadtold him that he wanted his help to run down the leak charges. Lii wson "said he thanked Henry and ured that they taik freely and in confidence. Henry, he said, explained his position as chairmanof the committee charged with looking into all information that rniifht hear on the investigation. Con-- I tfress wanted something tangihie, he noted Henry as saying, andadded that thechairman asked him to give him any in forma tion that lie had about any involved. told him "that the oniything to be done whs to got first-han- informal ion and to get it from other people," said Lawson.

Fiiid that I would not give him hearsay information: that tny principal reason was that I did not want to besmirch any one unjustly, but I declared that I could give him a formulafor getting all the information through a real investigation. "I asked him what the committee had heard. He saidthe committee already had heard that Secretary Lansing had gone to theBaltimore hotel In New York four times tomeet Bernard Baruch. The chairmanalso said that he believed Secretary Lansing absolutely innocent of giving any confidential information, and he asked iue what I thought about it. Quotes Henry.

'T said 'I will stake my head on it that Secrelary Lansing did not do anything wrong." I also said that I thought Secret arv Lansing might have given that was perfectly fair for any man to give. "Chairman Henry also told me that there had come to the committee a report that the German ambassador had profited $2, 000,000, but he said hedid not think there was any truth in it." Lawson further declared that Henry pleaded with him at theend of their sec- ondconference to cease urging an investigation ofthe "leak" charges. It would be a serious thing to the country. Lawson quoted Henry aa saying, to have an inquiiy at this time. It might be possible, however, Lawson said Henry pointed out, to inaugurate a wide inquiry into the stock market situation in the course of thirty days or so.

Such an inquiry beina to Lawson' liking, and as he had repeatedly stated that the "leak" now tinder fireheld no interest for him, he said he readilv agreed. At that point Lawson reiterated his statement that he never told Henry nor had he told any one that he had direct information regarding a leak. Henry's Statement. In the midst of Lawson's remarks Chairman Henrv rose from his seat in the center of thecommittee table and started around toward the witness chair, telling Lawson that he would be excused temporarily. Representative Pou assumed the chairman's seat, and Henry, taking the stand, began a statement.

'He first reviewer! the introduction of the "leak" resolution bv Representative Wood of Indiana; told of seeing Lawson's charges in (lie newspapers that there was a "leak." and gradually led up to Lawson's visit to "Washington to confer with him. Heni-- explained how he had begun a preliminaryinquiry into the oharges made by Lawson andthe matters presented in Representative Wood's resolution. He firstrailed Wood and he could not furnish "a single name, or date, or fact." Then he reviewed the telegraphic correspondence with Lawson, leading up to their conference January 2. told Mr. Lawson," said Henry, "that this was a very important and serious matter and that in so far as I was personally concerned I would impose no res trie (ion of confidence, but that if he "had any facts that he thought he should give in confidence I would spect his confidence.

asked him over and over againto name an man who might have knowledge of the subject. He did not name a single person and I did not name one. Makes Denial Emphatic. "Here today I declare that during our three hours' conversation did not mention the name of any cabinet officerhe has mentioned here today." Later Henry made his statement even broader, declaring he did not mentionthe name of any ofthe persons Lawson huI declared he named. say to you now," he declared with great emphasis, leaning over toward the committee, "that I never mentioned the name of a banker, a senator nor a great official to him.

I have no fear of my reputation in thehouse or In the coun-- 1 ry and what this gentleman says here todav does not even disturb me." Henry thenreferred to a communication fawson had sent him early in January asking that an inquiry into thostock exchange, be inaugurated and that hobe put in charge of It. Lawson said in the Iftier (hat he would like to have charge "like Sani Untermeyer did in he Pujo investigation." Tf he could not produce valuable evidence, Uwson's letter continued, he would bo willing to be fired." Afir that, Henry exclaimed dramatically, "lie comes and tells this house and the country that he got hisinformation from me." Then, turning to Lawson, Henry shouted "Mr. Lawson, I couM say more. I could take another cours, but I have made my statement and submit It to the house and (o the country." Henry Cheeks Reply. Lawson sta rted to reply, hut wa checked by Henry, who asserted that he did not wish to enter into any colloquy with him.

The chairman then placed himself beforethe committee and urged them to question him "searehincly." "Make it as search per as possible." ho added. "Let meassure you that ing you may ask can embarrass me. cecd with the Investigation, sent if men." "Did understand you to say," asked Represent a rive Garret "that you nevr mentioned any of these names to Mr. Lawson?" "I did not." Mr. Henry replied, "nor did he.

I should add hr rc that when l.inv-i?o- v.a.:t on the stand, two or three times had said to him that 'The bridles are In so far as our conference was concerned, and he stated nothing to the commit ee." Asked by Reoresenta.tlve Pou if had any actual knowledge of anvone he-i- connected with the "leak," Henry replied that lie never had any such knowied ze. "The, first lime," he sa.id. "1 ever hi rd of the name of a. puhlle official In with this ma.ier whs at the White hone on January I think, when Scerefa.ry Tumulty told me hehad heard his name, was hninjr mentioned in rumors clreulatlntr in Washington." "Ton arr wind ru? up wen years" service in conpress, aren't you?" asked Represent a live i'oii. "Yes," replied Mr.

Henry, "and wish (o state hat I am retiring voluntarily and thai I could have been to the housefrom my district without the "I am not even grolnfc-t- ask you wheth- "lam not even going1 to ak you whether, throughout your congressional career, there ever hasbeen a black mark," Representative Pou continued. "If there ever has been, I have never found it out," Mr. Henry replied. "As a matter of fact," Representative Garrett asked, "you have no information bearing on this subject?" "Not a bit on earth." "Did you ever mention the name of Secretary Lansinjr or Bernard Baruch to Mr. Tawson?" Representative Lenroot asked.

"i did not." Lawson Swears to His Story. As Mr. Henry left the witness stand, lawson leaped on his feet with his face flushed and eyes blazing andasserted that every word uf his testimony was the truth. "Every word have uttered here today was the truth, so help me God, without variation!" he fairly shouted. "Immediately after leaving Chairman Henry I went to New York and laid all the Information I had before John O'Hara Cosarruve.

Sunday editor of the New York World. I also summoned Erman Rldg-wa- of Everybody's magazine andtold him how I had been to see Chairman Henry. I described my trip to Washington and how. because' of the seriousness of the situation, had been requested to abandon my efforts for an investigation. "The next morning, immediately after breakfast, met Donald McDonald of Boston, whom I bad not seen in fifteen years, and told him the story, too." "Call these men." thundered Jvawson, "and they will bear me out in what I sa y.

Again Quotes Henry. Iawson spoke particularly of having told the three men that Henry had spoken to him about Secretary Lansing's alleged breakfast meetings with Bernard Baruch in New York. 'Think of he quoted Mr. Henry as saying. He had breakfast four times with Barney Baruch at the Biltmore hotel In New York, but I know there was nothing wrong.

Don't you think so, Mr. Lawsun reiterated that he told Henry he did not believe i here was anything iwrona: in these meetings. "Tli is Is the mostastoundingthing have seen in forty-si- years!" Lawson continued. donot liave to seek vindication here. Go on with the investigation, and it will not be forty-ei- hours before I will be vindicated to the world.

I have given you names that shakothe There Is no biser man in this country tiian Paul Warburg. 1 gave vou this name. Investigate him. I 'am through Henry then asked Lawson if hebad not stated that he had received thebest part of bis Information from him. Loaded With Information.

"Nothing of thekind!" Lawson retorted hotly. "I merely got from you a commonplace, common sense sta tcment, and 1 cannot understand why at this lale day any man should denv it, particularly wiien it does not amount to anything. am loaded with in format hut. I'll make good here and not go to jail as the goat." "You have said you would ma ke good. Will you make good about Warburg?" asked Mr.

Henry. "I have given you the names." was Lawson's terse re ply. "Flow can you make good?" Mr. Henry asked, "Oh, you ciin'thind mn down here unless you send me to jail," Iawson shouted deriantly, glaring at the chairman. "Thiscommittee thinks th.nt.it has full power to make this Investigation," Henry continued.

"Are you ready to proceed tomake good on your "I recognized the authority ofthis commit tee," Lawson said. "I gave you a lei lor a lit tie bile rmn tha I would rather have given SJ.onfl.non than tn disclose, but you nvide mo do lr. would rather have one of my tinkers cut off "Oh, let's adjourn and all take a rest," Representative Pou interrupted, and this theturbulent proceedings ofthe day to an end. As the crowd becran tn disperse, the 'committee, still in open session, neelded to if.snn subponas and adjourn until morrow. McAdoo Indignant.

Secretary McAdoo issued a plat emeu late, today, saying: "No more pn.t mems and wanton liecould he conceived" than th? rumor that hehad beeninterested "at any ti a id a na or whatever" in stock specula ion or had been conneri cd In a nv manner whatever a i tli a "leak." Secretary McAdoo said: No man should bo called upon to notice suchdetestableand Irresponsible gossip and slander, butsince my name hasbeen mentioned 1 wish to that no more shamelessand wanton tie couldhe conceived than he rumor or crest km ha have beeninterested at any time and in any manner whatever In stock spocu- Intlons or purchases of stock in New York or elsewhere or that I have heen conned ed in any murnior whit ever with he alleged "leak" about, thu so- called pence not n. The put rid pa rt poli clans and the putrid stock araniblcrsln New York and Boston arc ujvlng tho country a painful exhibition of contemptible met hods to which hey resoi In heir efforts to injure-- the adminls-- ra tlon. any ma in or oul of congress will assume- responsibility for theso slanders, or If 1 can secure proof ofthe guilt of such a man, 1 will have hlrn fn the penitent in ry, where he belongs. It is time hat an example be mud of hofoul scoundrels who make a profession of whispered and Uiseloss insinuations mm in public life. Tumulty's Statement.

Secretary Tumulty r.nvc. out this statement A f'1 th complete and definite) which made to the rules cnilnlttee hist week, It rhould bard-hp nnTirv for ni lo wiv mat t'h is not ilia of truth in (here new lllniv cii.i Says Price. V. 'rice, nude he follow sta The abr.olulf. a bsurdit of the uyn my is lc rl in he fad ha ktn-- imt him: nl' he 's In p.

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15. Stuart named by Thomas W. Lawson in the Investisutlon at Washington, is in Pitlsburp appearing as counsel before the United Slates court. "I never knew a thin? about the president's note until it appeared in the newspapers." he said tonight. "I never bought or sold a share of stock in my life and I have no connection with any of the others Mr.

T.aw-sn- named. 1 am a friend of Secretary McAdoo and in the pre-- i onvention campaign of 1912, before the Baliimore convention, was associated with Mr. McAdoo and W. F. McCombs, then national Democratic chairman.

in organization work for the list Wilson campaign. 1 am ready and perfectly willing to go to Washington and appear before the committee of investigation at any tinift. have no connection with theadministrat- ion. The only possible, cause I can conceive for my name being mentioned is because Hin a friend of Mr. McAdoo, or, possibly, because am counselforthe comptroller of the currency in national bank i eceiverships in New York City." More Denials.

NKW YORK, Molcolm McAdoo, brother of the secretary of the treasury, and- Pliny Kisk. both of whoso names were mentioned by Mr. Ijawson in his testimony at Washington, issued statements tonightdenying any ronnei-- tion with the alleged "leak." Mr. McAdoo said "I don't know Lawson. never saw him.

I am notconnected withthis leak in any way except what 1 have seen in ho newspapers. I have no connection with the administration and 1 have no influence with it. I am a brother of tin secret ofthe treasury and have been his brother for fifty-on- and one-ha-lt yuars, but am not entitled tocriticism on that account." Mr. Fisk said: "There is no truth nnd no basis of rut in the statements as reported to me. Tliev a pear to be the product of disordered brain." Denial by White.

NKW YORK. Jan. 15. J. Horace Harding, head of the firm of O.

Ih Harney mentioned by Thomas W'. Lawson In his test nwny today beforethe house rulesrommiitee. said tonight that he did not know Lawson personally and did not care to discussthe testimony beforethe committeeuntil he Icjrnfd more details. larding said bad not been notified that his firm hadbeenfub poena ed by the committee, Archibald White, also mentioned by Lawson andhead of White issued the following from hishome tonight: I have to say is that I never made the statement accredited to me and I know nothing whatsoever about the matter." FUNERAL TODAYFOR SLAIN TRAINMAN Switcliman Murdered in Altercation in Bingham Redlight District to Be Buried in City Cemetery. Funeral services for Thomas Park, minor, years of ape, who was murdered early Saturday morning following an altercation In a cafe at Blngharu, will be held al the Mormon church in I.tark this niorrnite at 10 o'clock.

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'ark is survided by his mother. Elizabeth Park, andthe following-brother- and sisters: Joseph Park of Lark and and William Park of Butte, and Mrs. Massie Mrs. W. Webb and Mrs.

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