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Snelling, House Leaders Thrash Out Deficit Issue 8 November: Wednesday, Press, Free (Vt.) Burlington The By DAVID KARVELAS The Associated Press MONTPELIER Gov. Richard Snelling met Tuesday with nearly 30 House members in the largest of his economic summits, encountering a wide range of opinions over the level of state spending. The meeting was the sixth the governor has held with legislative leaders this fall in an attempt to forge a consensus over how to handle the state's financial problems. Although the previous meetings yielded general agreement on key money issues, a Snelling spokesman said different views were expressed Tuesday concerning the level of state spending for next year. "There was quite a diverse opinion," said Timothy Hayward, secretary of civil and military altairs.

"On the appropriations, there was clearly a number of views voiced." Snelling met privately for two hours in a conference room outside his office with committee chairmen vice chairmen from the House and with party leaders. Previous meetings with other legislative leaders resulted in broad agreement that an increase of between 4 percent and 6 percent in state spending next year would be reasonable. Hayward said that at the Tuesday conference, one viewpoint questioned whether government should be level-funded, while another wondered whether a 6 percent increase would be enough. "I would say the one area where it was just uncertain, because there are so many views, was the appropriate level of appropriations," he said. The final meeting between Snelling and lawmakers will be Dec.

22 and will include the elected and political leadership of the House and Senate and the chairmen of the four money committees. The Legislature convenes for the 1984 session during the first week in January. Among those who took part in Tuesday's conference were House Republican leader Robert Kinsey, R-Craftsbury; Democratic leader Ralph Wright, D-Bennington, and Speaker Stephan Morse, R-Newfane. "There was not with this group of legislators any feeling of exactly might be appropriate," Hayward said of the roughly 27 lawmakers who took part. In other areas, legislators offered no argument that the size of the deficit at the end of fiscal 1984 in June would range between $30 million and $45 million.

He said the idea that the shortfall could be paid off within two years was considered reasonable. Welfare Cheaters Doing More Time fraud than females." The federal and state governments share the cost of the various welfare programs. In fiscal 1983, the food stamp program in Vermont cost about $1.8 million per month for 16.000 households. Aid to Needy Families with Children cost approximately $3 million per month for 8.200 cases. Medicaid has 41,000 to 45,000 monthly recipients.

Welfare fraud in Vermont, though a reality, is hardly the problem that exists in more populous states such as Massachusetts or New York. In fiscal 1983, $123,825 was recovered in the state through convictions. In Massachusetts last year that figure was $6.6 million. "We in Vermont have not discovered anything like the big $100,000 crimes with the welfare Cadillacs." Smith said. "The most blatant would be in the $17.000 to $20,000 income for a fully employed man being in a household." In a typical year, Smith said, his department receives about 600 fraud referrals from the 12 district offices, about 100 of which are passed to the state's attorneys for prosecution.

Despite the recession, the level of convictions has remained constant in recent years. "We in the Fraud Division have seen little change in spite of the economic situation," Smith said. "There's been a very small increase in the number of cases sent to the state's attorneys." In 1980, 106 cases were referred for conviction. In 1983, that number was 117. "It's hard to conjecture if there's any more or less fraud," Smith said.

The most common form of de-' ception is failure by the recipient to report income and resources that would push them above the eligibility level. A second and more diffi- Residents Protest Lighting Cut en of his surveys have been returned, but he expects more this week. "Gary has put a great deal of effort into trying to make North Street better and this is just one small part of it." said Alderman Peter Lackowski, Citizens-Ward 3. "I think it's pretty obvious that From Page 1B From Page 1B there is that element of glaring lights attracting people to hang out," said Lackowski. "That has to be balanced against the problem of people lurking in the shadows.

You really don't know unless you actually change the thing. It's a reasonable idea to try it." Gestner said DeCarolis was "obnoxious" and "arrogant" when he spoke to her at Monday night's meeting of the aldermen. "I guess Voters Refuse School Request ton Education Association president, said the union will wait to see the reaction of the School Board before taking a stand. Attempts to reach School Commissioner James Rowley, the board's chief negotiator, were unsuccessful Tuesday night. The School Board agreed to the contract after an independent factfinding report sided mostly with the he thinks people from North Street wouldn't do anything about 1 it because they're stupid," she said.

Lackowski said Gestner's "reaction has been premature and unnecessarily antagonistic. It seems to me that it doesn't have to be dealt with in an adversarial way. "I'm not taking a stand. This is an experiment to find out what effect it has." Maggie Green, director of the Sara M. Holbrook Community Center on North Avenue, said she was concerned about children walking home from the center on North Street after dark.

"The Democratic process will dictate what we do," said Robert C. Young, Burlington Electric Department manager. "I believe that the majority of the people wanted to try something like every other light, which is all I would agree to go down to. "I wouldn't have done something that was not standard throughout the city." Young said the city standard is for every other utility pole to have a streetlight. Death Notices and Funerals Held Eastern Star in Chateaugay, N.Y.

Funeral services will be held Thursday at 2 p.m. at the Corbin and Palmer Funeral Chapel, 71 S. Union St. Friends may call at the funeral home evening from 7 to 9 and Thursday afternoon from 1 to 2. MISS GLADYS MURPHY Miss Gladys M.

Murphy, 68, of 455 North St. died Monday evening at her residence. She was born July 30, 1915, in Corinth, daughter of William H. and Emily (Genette) Murphy. She was a graduate of Mount St.

Mary Academy and the former Burlington Business College. Miss Murphy had been employed for many years with the Federal Aeronautics Administration in Burlington until her retirement in 1980. She was a member of the Cathedral parish. Survivors include three sisters, Miss Dorothy H. Murphy and Mrs.

Jean M. Terrien, both of Burlington, and Mrs. William (Wilma) Dempsey of Weymouth, also many nieces and nephews. A Mass of Christian Burial will be held Thursday at 9:30 a.m. in the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception.

Interment will follow in St. Joseph's Cemetery. Visiting hours will be held today from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. at the Ready Funeral Home, South Chapel, 261 Shelburne Road. teachers' union in key areas.

Voters also elected Richard Shotwell school district treasurer. Shotwell, who received 394 votes, was unopposed. He has been inter: im treasurer since this summer, when Thomas Nadeau resigned to become business manager for the school district. Voters failed to fill two positions as auditors, according to Cushing. Nobody filed nominating petitions for the slots and nobody received the required 30 write-in votes, he said.

liams 77, died suddenly Tuesday Copley Hospital in Morrisville. Funeral services will be held Friday at 2 p.m. at the United Church in Craftsbury Common with the Rev. Arnold Brown officiating. Burial will be in the Branch Cemetery in Craftsbury.

Friends may call Thursday evening from 7 to 9 at the Davis Funeral Home in Craftsbury memory may Common. be made Contributions to the Ronald McDonald House, P.O. Box 9299, South Burlington 05401. ROLAND R. WILLIAMS SR.

CRAFTSBURY Roland R. Wil- Funerals Held SOUTH BURLINGTON NOORDUYN, Bertha H. Funeral services were held Monday at 2 p.m. at the Corbin and Palmer Funeral Chapel, 71 S. Union Burlington, with Samuel Beauregard conducting the service.

Interment followed at the convenience of the family. ESSEX JUNCTION QUESNEL, Lena Z. Funeral services were held Tuesday at 11 a.m. at the Corbin and Palmer Funeral Chapel, 11 Pleasant Essex Junction, with the Rev. Philip Lamothe of St.

Anne's Roman Catholic Church in Milton, officiating. Interment followed in Mountain View Cemetery with Father Lamothe conducting the committal service. Bearers were Albert and Melvin Quesnel, Robert Blackmore, Leo Jean, George Deavitt and Ronald LaFoiniere. House Ways and Means Chairman Peter Giuliani, R-Montpelier, said he viewed the meeting as productive, even if agreement was not reached on a state spending level. "The matter was discussed and there was no clear consensus or decision on that point," he said.

"I thought it went very well. There was quite a wide-ranging exchange of thoughts and ideas." Giuliani, who has not always seen eye to eye with Snelling i in the past, praised the governor's handling of the meeting. "I thought the governor was very objective and he said. "I came away optimistic Births MEDICAL CENTER HOSPITAL James and Nancy (Bachard), 51 Poirier Place, a son, Nov. 29.

KENYON, Ray and Irene (Martin), Huntington, son, Nov. 29. KINGSLEY, Rupert Jr. and Donna, Milton, a son, Nov. 28.

PETERS, Edward R. Ill and Debra (Desautels), Essex Junction, a daughter, Nov. 29. THOMPSON, Duane and Amy (Novak), 36 Avenue Farrington Trailer Park, a daughter, Nov. 17.

WALSH, David and Carolyn (LaMorte), 352 S. Winooski a son, Nov. 29. CENTRAL VERMONT MEDICAL CENTER Berlin BETIT, Gregory and Joanne (Murphy), Roxbury, daughter, Nov. 28.

MESTIERI, Edward and Rebecca (Palmer), Northfield, a son, Nov. 28. STRUTH, John and Lynne (Jablonski), Montpelier, a son, Nov. 28. NORTHWESTERN MEDICAL CENTER St.

Albans MOORE, Peter and Patricia (Schoolcraft), Clarenceville, Quebec, a son, Nov. 27. PUERTO RICO BACHAND, Michael and Lori (Dumont), a son, Nov. 27; paternal grandparents, Mr. and Mrs.

William Bachand, Burlington, maternal grandparents, Mr. and Mrs. Leo Dumont South Burlington, Vt. Vermont Lottery The number 345 was drawn Tuesday in the daily lottery. "SAY IT WITH OURS" Chappell's Florist Inc.

1437 Williston Rd. So. Burlington 658-4733 about solving our problem." Rep. Alexander Keefe, land, vice chairman of the Institutions Committee, said thought the governor's decision arrange the meetings was a idea. "We like to be asked and told what to do," he said.

WE BUY ALUMINUM LEAD TOP PRICES TUBING WIRE PLATES SHEETING BATTERIES WHEEL WEIGHTS Burlington Waste Metal 255-257 N. Winooski Ave. 862-5335 or 862-3831 LARGE CHRISTMAS AUCTION 6:30 Rumours Restaurant, Rte. 7, Milton We will sell this week all new Christmas items from N.Y. The following watches, items are: All kinds of Tonka toys, knife sets, radios, clocks, jewelry, tools, plush animals of all kinds, all kinds of games, Christmas wrap, radios with clock and lots, lots of new items not sold in Vermont.

So come out and do your Christmas shopping with us and you will save dollars, dollars and more dollars. Don't miss this one, our Biggest one of the year. Auctioneer Bert Burnor 893-7013 AUCTION 6:30 Rte. 2, Island Colchester This week we will sell a lot of furniture and good household items from Essex Jct. The following items are: Sideboard, chest of drawers, chairs, stands, couch, lamps, rocking chairs, beds, oak desk, office desk, lots of misc.

items. Also to be sold are a lot of new Christmas items from Boston. Who knows what we have on this load. Don't miss it. Watch the paper for our large estate auction coming up Sunday.

See Sat. Free Press for our ad on this one. Auctioneer: Bert Burnor 893-7013 COPING WITH SEPARATION AND DIVORCE FAMILY THERAPY ASSOCIATES 55 Main Essex Jct. Announces a group to assist individuals dealing with the stresses of separation and divorce. 8 SESSIONS WEEKLY Thursdays 5 to 6:15 PM Leader: Toba Gladstone, R.N., M.S.

Jan. 5 to Feb. 23, 1984 Nurse- Psychotherapist For information call 878-4399 Health Care Insurance may be Applied ANTIQUES AUCTION 6 PM Dec. 2, 1983 FRIDAY 6 PM Dec. 2, 1983 Preview 4:00 PM LOCATED at Bluto Auction Gallery, corner Routes 36 and 104, St.

Albans, Vermont, just off Exit 19 of 1-89 20 minutes north of Burlington. We have a very nice assortment of antique furnishings, decorator and collectibles in this sale. The following is a very partial listing. Outstanding rare country store 80 drawer OAK revolving bolt, nut and a sundry cabinet on base; great Hoosier type OAK kitchen cupboard ready to use; beautiful black walnut Victorian hall rack holders and oval mirror; Victorian white marble turtle top stand; nice walnut 2 piece parlor set, arm chair and love seat, both having cameo (lady) heads; walnut ladies' rocker; walnut 5 tier corner what-not; a sweetheart child size walnut vanity mirror; oak chest mirror, nice mahogany 5 drawer chest BG mirror; great rope twist ball claw foot mahogany stand; 2 piece walnut bedroom suite white marble top dresser and matching bed; great 10 piece Art Deco bentwood living room or porch set consisting of sectional sofa, chairs, stands, tables; beautiful inlaid mahogany kidney desk; 4 piece matching pine bedroom set consisting of dresser, commode, bed, stand; 2 early dovetailed blanket chests, one in old red; dropleaf country table; claw foot library table; custom 3 door OAK press carved ice box; custom oak medicine cabinet; birdseye maple dresser mirror and matching 5 drawer chest; walnut hanging corner what-not; wainscoted stepback cupboard; hanging wall cupboard; round mahogany pedestal base table leaves; 4 matching bentwood chairs; stands; lamps; rockers; chairs; dressers; commodes; beds; piano stool; other items include COLLECTOR DECORATOR: early boxes; measures; Folk Art items; prints; jugs; jars; crocks; Nippon; Noritake; pressed glass; much more glassware; collection of 80 dolls (no bisque); iron dog door stop; 3 oil canvas by John L. Gregory; engraving prints of Battle of Gettysburg; Abe Lincoln print; carmel slag glass lamp; oil lamps.

Modern Kenmore electric sewing machine in console desk; always many other items too numerous to list. NEXT SALE DATES Dec. 18th, 11 A.M. Jan. 8th, 11 A.M.

Bring A Chair Sale Pos. Catered Heat Cash Check if known Robert E. Bluto, Auctioneer, Shelburne, VT 1-802-985-8525 Gary E. Bluto, Sales St. Albans, VT 1-802-527-7227 "SEASONS Chittenden cult violation to prosecute is the failure to report the presence of a wage earner in the home, Smith said.

Prevention is the most effective method to combat fraud, he said. States with a larger problem have taken more elaborate steps. Massachusetts this week became the first state to issue photo identification cards for food stamp recipients when they receive their allotment. "I would have some question as to what photo IDs would do for us in Vermont since food stamps are delivered through the mail," Smith said. "It helps to identify people, but it does little to identify.

those who lie on their applications." 4 People Hurt In Plane Crash From Page 1B Police Chief Peter D. Barton said the twin engine aircraft crashed about 2:50 p.m. Pierce walked out of the woods to Southern Vermont College, where police were summoned shortly after 3:30 p.m. The plane was en route from Atlantic City to Bennington, but the pilot chose not to land because of cloudy weather, Barton said. The plane was headed to Albany, N.Y., when it crashed, he said.

Barton said about the time the college called town police, airport officials in Albany notified state police in Shaftsbury a plane was missing off its radar scope. The crash was about miles south of the state airport in Bennington, Barton said. Rockingham Man Dies in Crash ROCKINGHAM Charlie Wyman, 84, of Rockingham died Monday at Rockingham Memorial Hospital after a single-car accident on Vermont 121, state police said. Police said late Tuesday they did not know if Wyman died of a heart attack or as a result of injuries suffered in the crash. Wyman, police said, was driving east at 5 p.m.

when he failed to negotiate a turn and his pickup truck traveled along the shoulder of the road, down an embankment and came to rest in a field. The truck traveled 500 feet, police said. Vermont Deaths CHEVALIER, Joseph 90, of Swanton; operated a hardware store in Swanton for many years. MURPHY, Gladys 68, of 455 North Monday; was employed for many years by the Federal Aeronautics Administration in Burlington, retiring in 1980. NYE, Ruth 81, of Jeffersonville, Monday; was a member of the Second Congregational Church.

ROCK, Lestina 91, of Curtis Avenue. WILLIAMS, Roland R. 77, of Craftsbury, James Bernadette Reuschel clarify that there is more than one Laurie Reuschel in Colchester. BANK We've been behind Rutland Bank all this time! Alouan D-RutHouse he to good not From Page 1B LESTINA M. ROCK Lestina M.

Rock, 91, of Curtis Avenue died Tuesday at the Burlington Convalescent Center. She was born in Brainardsville, N.Y., in 1892, the daughter of Arthur W. and Florence (Huntley) Miller. She is survived by her daughter, Lestina E. Jones, and son-in-law, Thomas H.

Jones, of Burlington; three grandchildren, Thomas Jones, Susan Debra Shortsleeves; five great-grandchildren, all of Vermont. She was a lifetime member of the Cards of Thanks The family of Howard H. Russell would like to. thank all the fine friends who helped support us through this difficult time. We are very thankful for all the contributions of food and flowers and for the many kind sentiments expressed.

It is at times like this that the value of friends and loved ones is especially apparent. The family of Claire Gordon Mason wishes to express their heartfelt thanks to all who gave so much of themselves' at this most difficult time. We feel truly blessed. Gordon Trinity Church would like to say thanks to the people of Milton and beyond who contributed towards the Thanksgiving meal that was served to the Community. Professional Announcements Dr.

Charles McLean and Dr. Charles Paolantonio and staff will be attending educational symposium from November 28 to December 4, 1983. The office will be closed during this time. For an appointment please call 864-5150. John W.

Heisse, M.D. announces the relocation of his office to 55 Patchen Road, So. Burlington. The office will be closed from through to facilitate the move. The phone number will be Dr.

Michael Guerra announces evening hours in Essex Jct. for disorders and surgery of the foot. 879- 6545. Dr. Michael Tveraas and the staff of Essex Chiropractic Center will be attending an educational seminar December 1 thru 4.

The office will reopen Monday December 5. Call 878-5311 for an appointment. Held W. five is to of JOSEPH S. CHEVALIER SWANTON Joseph S.

Chevalier, 90, of Ferris Street died Tuesday morning at the Northwestern Medical Center. He was born in Notre Dame de Stanbridge, Quebec, May 10, 1893, son of the late Olivier and Adeline (Bechard) Chevalier. He operated a hardware store in Swanton for many years. He is survived by his wife, Marie Anne (Quesnel) of Swanton; two daughters, Mrs. Pauline Pare of Swanton and Mrs.

Lillian Pare of St. Albans; two sons, Raymond Chevalier and Maurice Chevalier, both of Swanton; a sister, Miss Aurora Chevalier of Burlington; two brothers, Ephriam Chevalier of New Hampshire and Levi Chevalier of Alburg; 14 grandchildren; 12 great several nieces and nephews. A Mass of the Resurrection will be offered Thursday at 10 a.m. in the Church of the Nativity. Friends may call at the R.H.

Gadue Funeral Home, 34 Canada today from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. In lieu of flowers, memorials may be made to the Missisquoi Valley, Rescue, Interment Box will 96, be in the Swanton, Vt. family lot in St. Mary's Cemetery. The Gadue Funeral Service is in charge of arrangements.

RUTH E. NYE JEFFERSONVILLE Mrs. Ruth 1 E. Nye, 81, of Vermont 15 passed away Monday afternoon at the Copley Hospital in Morrisville. She born in Georgia May 19, 1902, daughter of the late Frederick and Phila (Wood) Boyden.

Mrs. Nye was a member of the Second Congregational Church in Jeffersonville and the Women's Fellowship Committee. She was also a member of the Jeffersonville Cemetery Association and the Home Demonstration Group. Mrs. Nye was a former member of Mansfield Chapter 45, OES.

She leaves her husband of 53 years, Kenneth L. Nye of Jeffersonville; a son, Norman Nye of Jeffersonville; two daughters, Phila Westman of Berwick, Maine, and Martha Jane Blaisdell of Castleton, N.Y.; a brother, Kenneth Boyden of Daiton, a sister, Dorothy Adams of Inglewood, nine grandchildren; one greatgranddaughter; several nieces and nephews. Friends may call at the Hayes-Rich Funeral Home, Main Street, Fairfax, today from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. Services will be held Thursday at 1:30 p.m. in the Second Congregational Church in Jeffersonville with the Rev.

Robert Harding officiating. Spring interment will be in the Jeffersonville Cemetery. For those who wish, memorial contributions may be made either to the Second Congregational Church or to the Jeffersonville Cemetery Association, both in care of Lorraine Wells, treasurer, P.O. Box 343, Jeffersonville. Arrangements are by Lucien and Carol Hayes..