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L\L» Troop pnllout viewed with caution KhHlJb CITY Sunday, June 15,10M I..'.. .;->.., MAIL The Arizona Republic A-3 Associated Press WASHINGTON-Senators who back President Nixon's decision to withdraw 25,000 U.S. soldiers from Vietnam are expressing skepticism over the ability of the South Vietnamese to assume major responsibility for the war. Asked whether Saigon's forces ever will be ready to take over, Sen. George D. Aiken, R-Vt., GOP dean of the Senate, said, "I think so, but it will have to be turned over gradually. "We'll have our fingers crossed, but it's worth trying." Sen. Stuart Symington, D-Mo., a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, was asked the same question after a briefing by Defense Secretary Melvin R. Laird. "Whether they can or can't, I'm for the withdrawal," Symington replied. Sen. George S. McGovern, D-S.D., who favors going much farther than Nixon in removing U.S. forces from Vietnam, noted that Army officials told the Senate Appropriations Committee recently that the effort to train South Vietnamese troops will cost about $6.2 billion over the next five years. "We could spend $60 billion and still be no better off without a strong political base," McGovern told a reporter, adding that "half t>f it will probably wind up in the hands of the Vietcong." Among those who share doubts that the Saigon army can be molded into an effective fighting force is Sen. John Stennis, D-Miss., chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. "I'm rather skeptical about a rapid development of that army,",he told reporters last week, adding "I've been disappointed with it so far. "We're doing everything, I think, that can be done. But we haven't gotten the results that we hoped this system would bring. "I'll go with it as long as I can. Sen. Henry M. Jackson, D-Wash., also a member of the armed services group, said of Nixon's decision, "This is certainly a feasible approach at this time." But he said the question is: "How are they going to perform when we're not next door?" Last month, appearing before a Senate appropriations subcommittee, Brig. Gen. Donnley P. Bolton, deputy director of Army operations, declined to estimate how long it would take the United States to modernize South Vietnamese forces enough so they could take over all the fighting. "I will say that the efficiency of the South Vietnamese forces will continue to increase, and we are fairly confident ol that," he said, "but to give you a time, I couldn't." Mori* about Confusion aboard destroyer Evans Can Hanoi take losses /or 30 years? Associated Press WASHINGTON - North Vietnam is suffering casualties at a higher rate than her population can produce young men to bear arms, according to U.S. estimates. But the same estimates indicate Hanoi possibly could sustain such losses for 30 years more. The huge enemy toll is one reason why U.S. officials believe North Vietnam is being badly hurt by the war even though its envoys show little evidence of this at the Paris peace talks. By allied count, total enemy killed have passed the half - million mark. The number jumped from 88,000 in 1967 to 181,000 in 1968, and the 1969 rate so far averages about the same as last year, more than 3,000 a week. U.S. officials say they cannot vouch for complete accuracy on these figures, but they are convinced the enemy losses are of this general size or perhaps even larger. They note that B52 strikes in jungle undergrowth and other actions cause enemy casualties which allied forces are unable to count. The estimate of the manpower impact of the casualties likewise is said to be based on conservative assumptions. It takes into account among other things the mix between Hanoi and Vietcong forces. Whereas about two-thirds of the enemy forces in South Vietnam at the start of 1967 were believed to be southern Vietcong, the proportion of North Vietnamese is listed at 70 per cent now. The impact on North Vietnam's manpower is calculated this way: — North Vietnam's 20 million population produces about 120,000 able-bodied men reaching military service age each year. —The number of Northerners killed in the South, plus those put out of action for such causes as wounds, sickness and desertion, now is running 250,000 a year. — If North Vietnam drafts all able-bodied men reaching age 18 and fills the remaining gap with the physically fit in its labor force between ages 18 and 30, it could keep up its combat force in the South at its present loss rate for another five years. — If Hanoi inducts all its physically fit in addition to the 18-30 age group, and puts women under arms too, it could keep replacing its losses for 30 years. U.S. officials note these estimates do not take into account other factors which could bear heavily on Hanoi's future course. One factor is the demonstrated willingness by North Vietnamese leaders to take heavier casualties than are acceptable by Western standards. Another is the possibility that the replacements sent South will become increasingly less effective as the casualties mount. They would be less physically qualified and experienced than their predecessors. One course for Hanoi, if it does not choose the path of a peaceful settlement, would be to trim its losses by scaling down the level of fighting. Continued From Page A-l of the Melbourne was 205 degrees, or approximately south-southwest, at the time he was ordered to shift station. After consulting with Ramsey, his senior, the junior officer of the deck ordered a right turn which he thought would take him .safely away from the course of the Melbourne and into a course behind the carrier. He described the movement as "a very conservative decision." However, Capt. Stevenson asserted Friday that the base course of the task force was 220 degrees or nearly southwest and the Melbourne's actual course was 260 degrees, or almost due west. Hopson related what happened next. "When the ship came around to the right, I took my first visual bearing on the Melbourne. I noticed that the Melbourne was drifting (to the left instead of to the right). I was very confused at this time because I expected the Melbourne to be drifting to the right. "The Melbourne was a darkened ship. All I could see was its shadow. I could not tell the aspect of the ship (which way it was headed). I told Ramsey that the Melbourne was drifting to th« left and ordered a five-degree left rudder. "Just then I heard from the remote speaker on our bridge a signal from the Melbourne: 'You are on a collision course.' I turned and looked at Ramsey. Ramsey looked up and ordered 'right full rudder.' " "I turned and looked at the Melbourne. She was drifting rapidly across our bow. She had bright white lights on her flight deck, mast and navigation lights. At that time I saw I was looking at the bow aspect and that the Melbourne was in very close proximity. I ordered the helmsman to place engines at 'all back full.' " "I ran to the side of the bridge, shouting 'She's going to hit us, she's going to hit us,' I ran to the starboard. I saw a flash of light. I was hit solidly in the back and I was under water." More about 8,000 troops to be released in Viet pullout Continued From Page A-l enemy Tet offenisve and the North Korean seizure of the spy ship Pueblo. Officials indicated it is unlikely any National Guard units would be brought back from the war in the initial withdrawal. Officials said seven Air National Guard squadrons called to active duty at the same time and sent to Vietnam and Korea already are either home or on their way back for demobilizatipm They said, in most cases, the Army regulars in the 9th Infantry Division brigade and the assorted lesser units probably^ will be discharged within a short time after their return. Th'ere were indications it might be necessary to reshuffle the makeup of the'.units before leaving Vietnam so their ranks will be filled with men having only; short service remaining and other men with a longer period left in their hitches will be left behind. The U.S. Command in Saigon identified :the units being withdrawn as the 1st and 2nd Brigades of the 9th Infantry Division and the Regimental Landing Team 9 of the 3rd Marine Division. The Pentagon announcement yesterday did not identify which 9th Infantry brigade would be deactivated. The other 9th Infantry brigade and the Marine unit will move from Vietnam by air and ship in July and August. The Pentagon said their destinations will be announced later. Authorities have indicated some of the 25,000 being pulled out of Vietnam will be sent to Okinawa and possibly Hawaii to replenish the reserve for emergencies in the Pacific area. The first Army unit to land in the United States will be an infantry battalion of about 900 men, due the second week of July, the Defense Department said. It did not identify the battalion. The detailed decisions on units to be withdrawn were made at ,a three-day conference which ended yesterday at Pacific Command headquarters in Honolulu. Adm. John S. McCain Jr., commander of armed forces in the Pacific, reported yesterday to Defense Secretary Melvin Laird that "rapid and orderly action" is being taken to implement President Nixon's decision to withdraw 25,000 U. S. troops from Vietnam. McCain said he would send to the Pentagon this weekend a comprehensive report on the three-day planning conference which was expected to conclude yesterday. , "After that report is submitted," McCain said, "additional details concern- ing replacement and inactivation actions will be announced." Some Navy personnel will be included among those departing Vietnam, he said. In the wake of the 1968 Tet offensive and the Pueblo seizure, the government called to active duty about 38,000 Army National Guardsmen and reservists, Air Force guardsmen and reservists and Naval reservists. The 2,000 Army reservists coming home from Vietnam will be the first to return to civilian life out of 20,000 Army guardsmen and reservists mustered in May 1968. The Army has promised to return all of them to civilian life by this December. Without announcing it, the Navy has brought home some 1,000 Seabee reservists from Vietnam and many of those are believed to have been demobilized. Six Navy reserve squadrons totaling 600 officers and men went off active duty last autumn. The inactivation of the 9th Infantry Division brigade and a number of lesser regular units will represent the first rollback from the buildup of U.S. forces which began in mid-1965 and currently finds U.S. arms strength worldwide totaling about 3,464,000. This is 700,000 more than before the United States became involved in the Vietnam ground war on a large scale. More about Oil, bonds protection Continued From Page A-l ;A former Maryland County executive and governor, Agnew fears that taxing municipal bonds would bring higher interest rates and force local governments to pay more to borrow money. IThe Treasury and the House committee are trying to find alternate ways for local and state governments to raise at loV cost the money they need for public improvements. In addition to rolling back the percentage depletion figure, the House committee is studying the taxation of "carve-out payments" or ABC transactions in the oil industry, the granting of Depletion allowance for foreign oil developments and the tax credit given corporations for taxes paid to foreign governments. -An ABC transaction involves the sale by a driller of production payments to other persons who then share in the depletion privileges of the property. These complicated transactions are likely to be covered by a new tax rule banning the sale of depletion rights. ;The foreign depletion privilege is a likely victim of the reform drive but foreign tax credits may survive. lUnder the credit provision the payments oil companies make to foreign governments are considered taxes and can be deducted against U.S. tax bills. Critics charge that many of the ftfeign payments are simply royalties and not truly taxes. • Madiscmville gets JJADISONVILLE, Ky. 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