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2003:05:06:15:49:04 By Janet Saidi Special to The Times Bill Gates sightings on television have been few, far between and somewhat contradictory. For insights into the character of the richest human, viewers have had to settle for the likes of rehearsed TV commercials, a cameo appearance on and the occasional puff-piece interview. One exception was a Night With David appearance in 1995in which Gates teased Dave about having too many assistants and not having a computer. In 1999 (during the antitrust case against Microsoft), an ABC News reporter, angry at the elusiveness of his subject, described Gates as businessman, harshly critical boss, high- tech intellectual contemptuous of those he considers out of the The Bill Gates who makes an appearance Friday night on With Bill comes across as an average, earnest guy who happens to be worth $40.7 billion. Having decided that leaving behind avast fortune is a terrible thing to do to his children asked their opinion he jokes), he is giving away of it, largely forvaccine research.

He is therefore relaxed, though guarded, and eager to share on his mind. And what Gates has on his mind is statistics. One that jumped out at him came from the World Development Report of 1993, in an article reporting that rotavirus kills more than half a million children per year. said to myself, that be an incredulous Gates tells Moyers in the broadcast. it being covered? You know, and a mother and a father behind every one of these In a recent phone interview after taping the broadcast, Moyers said he and his staff were struck by how easily Gates passes for an ordinary guy, though with a scary memory for numbers.

think if you can look at a percentage and see the human reality behind it, something powerful said Moyers. is a man who has the empathy to be struck by a Gates, who Forbes magazine recently reported gives away $1 billion annually, also comes across as a very concerned citizen, though more neurotic. The SARS outbreak has opened a window of interest in global health issues, and Moyers said he and his team jumped at the chance to report on health issues. time over my 30 years a that tried to do something on public health about hunger, just anything about public health I can hear the remote controls going click, click, click, click. not that people care, they just compassion Taped in front of a live audience at Columbia MailmanSchool of Public Health, this interview is a departure from the hard-edged news delivery of Moyers is visibly enthralled by his guest, and little of the evenhanded probing Moyers has employed with guests such as Sen.John McCain, radical historian Howard Zinn or journalist provocateur Christopher Hitchens.

But if anyone can draw out the personal stories from a cagey billionaire, Moyers. In anice personal revelation, Gates admits to having carried around about 10 issues of the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report for months. encounter with health stats seems to have radicalized the billionaire somewhat, although a problem he takes on with a results- oriented, fix-it energy reminiscent of the Car- negies, the Rockefellers, the Mellons and the Fords. we took the world and we just each neighborhood to be randomly mixed Gates tells Moyers, this whole thing would get solved. Because look out your window and say, know, a mother over there whose child is dying.

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Viewership is listed in millions. Program Network View- ersProgram Network Viewers 1 CSICBS22.67 2 American Idol 3 American Idol 4 ERNBC19.55 5 FriendsNBC19.03 --------------------------------------------6 Law OrderNBC18.09 7 Everybody Loves Raymond CBS17.92 8 Survivor: AmazonCBS17.65 9 CSI: MiamiCBS17.18 Friends (8:30 p.m.)NBC17.18 --------------------------------------------11 Will GraceNBC17.14 12 Law Order: Criminal Intent (10 p.m.) NBC14.46 13 Still StandingCBS14.41 14 Law Order: Criminal Intent NBC14.29 15 Law Order: SVUNBC13.97 --------------------------------------------16 Bernie MacFOX13.77 17 JAGCBS13.63 18 The BachelorABC13.28 19 The West WingNBC13.18 20 Judging AmyCBS13.15 --------------------------------------------21 22 Third WatchNBC12.76 23 Without a TraceCBS12.64 24 The Simpsons (8:30 p.m.) FOX12.45 25 Yes, DearCBS12.42 --------------------------------------------26 Fear FactorNBC12.21 27 Malcolm in the MiddleFOX12.11 28 The GuardianCBS12.05 24FOX12.05 30 60 MinutesCBS11.88 --------------------------------------------31 King of QueensCBS11.72 32 The SimpsonsFOX11.59 33 NYPD BlueABC11.42 34 Allen 35 Extreme Makeover (Wed.) ABC11.32 --------------------------------------------36 Wanda at LargeFOX11.27 37 FrasierNBC11.08 38 AliasABC10.10 39 Crossing JordanNBC10.09 40 Most Talented Kid NBC10.07 --------------------------------------------41 Funniest Home Videos (9 p.m.) ABC9.93 42 Law Order: SVU 43 44 60 Minutes IICBS9.32 45 --------------------------------------------46 Funniest Home Videos (8 p.m.) ABC9.22 47 American DreamsNBC9.12 48 50th Anniversary ABC9.10 49 Watching EllieNBC8.68 Dateline NBC --------------------------------------------51 The DistrictCBS8.51 52 According to Jim (9 p.m.)ABC8.34 53 George Lopez ABC8.33 54 CSI: MiamiCBS8.32 55 My Wife and KidsABC8.31 --------------------------------------------56 48 Hours InvestigatesCBS8.25 57 8 Simple Rules 58 Price Is Right: Million CBS8.18 59 HackCBS7.94 60 According to JimABC7.85 --------------------------------------------61 Mr. PersonalityFOX7.68 62 Boston PublicFOX7.55 Dateline NBC 64 Star Search 65 King of the HillFOX7.32 --------------------------------------------66 Most WantedFOX7.26 67 Dateline NBC 68 Blunderful World of ABC7.19 69 Primetime ThursdayABC7.15 70 Star SearchCBS7.14 --------------------------------------------71 72 The AgencyCBS6.56 73 Less Than PerfectABC6.54 74 SmallvilleWB6.50 75 7th HeavenWB6.47 --------------------------------------------76 77 Law Order 78 Cops (8:30 p.m.)FOX6.22 79 HunterNBC5.98 80 --------------------------------------------81 My Wife and Kids 82 Funniest Outtakes NBC5.49 83 CopsFOX5.41 84 King of the Hill (7 p.m.)FOX5.17 85 CharmedWB4.99 --------------------------------------------86 Gilmore GirlsWB4.83 87 Caught FOX4.81 88 WWE 89 EverwoodWB4.49 90 EnterpriseUPN4.08 --------------------------------------------91 Half and HalfUPN4.06 92 GirlfriendsUPN4.05 93 AngelWB4.04 94 One on OneUPN3.87 95 RebaWB3.85 --------------------------------------------96 CreekWB3.80 97 Jamie Kennedy Experiment WB3.62 98 Buffy the Vampire SlayerUPN3.60 99 WB3.18 100 The ParkersUPN3.15 --------------------------------------------101 Grounded for LifeWB2.97 102 Gilmore Girls: BeginningsWB2.66 103 Charmed (9 p.m.)WB2.62 104 What I Like About YouWB2.60 105 The Twilight ZoneUPN2.52 --------------------------------------------106 Greetings From TucsonWB2.26 107 PlatinumUPN2.24 Network averages Here is the number of viewers (in millions) that each network averaged per hour of prime time, for last week and for the season. Network Last week Season to date CBS11.8012.50 NBC11.4111.66 FOX9.749.82 ABC8.6610.04 WB4.104.07 UPN3.353.53 The May rating sweeps are breaking down into a two-tiered race, with little suspense about status as the most- watched network but a fiercer battle in the age 18-49 demographic most closely monitored by advertisers, based on viewing estimates issued Tuesday by Nielsen Media Research. By the second measure, NBC and Fox the latter buoyed by are neck-and- neck for first place, while CBS (which generally attracts an older audience) and ABC tied for third last week and are also deadlocked for the season.

In total viewership, Disney- owned ABC has settled for fourth place 11 of the last 12 weeks (the other featured the Academy Awards telecast) and now leads Fox by just 240,000 viewers for the season. While not enough time to make up that deficit before the 2002-03 campaign officially ends May 21, the finale could make things uncomfortably close especially considering that average was boosted by the Super Bowl in January. three-hour Sunday movie biography, about Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz, held its own against Order: Criminal and the season finale of which enjoyed a better-than-usual lead-in audience thanks to a special. has also continued a slow if steady build, last week edging West and the average for tandem of (which, following posted its biggest audience yet) and at Lowry NBC, Fox battle for 18-49 set TIPS FOR TODAY 9 a.m.-noon—Morning Becomes Eclectic: Richard Warren guests (11:15 a.m.-noon), KCRW-FM (89.9). 2-3 p.m.—Cost-Conscious Classix: Brahms (String Sextet No.

1 in Op. 18, Yehudi Menuhin and Friends), KCSN- FM (88.5). p.m.—The Treatment: Actor- director John Malkovich Dancer KCRW-FM (89.9). 4-8 p.m.—Duffy and of the p.m.); and p.m.): (66:30 p.m.), KKLA-FM (99.5). p.m.—Pro Basketball: NBA Playoffs: Lakers at San Antonio Spurs, KLAC (570).

7-8 p.m.—Symphony at 7: Schumann (1st Symphony, Baltimore Symphony Orchestra), KMZT-FM (105.1). p.m., a.m.—The Third Man: The allied army sends Harry (Orson Welles) on a secret mission (originally broadcast Dec. 7, 1951), KNX (1070). NEWS, COMMENTARY Continuous KFWB (980), KNX (1070). 2-9 a.m.—Morning Edition, KPCC-FM (89.3); also, 3-9 a.m., KCRW-FM (89.9).

a.m., 11:45 a.m.-noon, p.m.—Paul Harvey, KABC (790). Radio Prime-Time TV Rankings By Lynne Heffley Times Staff Writer Disgusting, exhausting and alarmingly life-changing how parenthood strikes a pair of 17-year-olds when they become the part-time, stand-in parents of a baby boy for two days. If watching the experience makes young viewers give serious thought to the potential consequences of sexual activity, then tonight at 9 p.m., has done its job. Part of the Walk in Your series on the nighttime network for teens, this is old-school reality TV, with a pointed, albeit earnest message created for this National Day to Prevent Teen Pregnancy. The series, which has teenagers of contrasting life experiences trade places with an aim toward broadening horizons and encouraging empathy and understanding, focuses tonight on New Jersey teens Sivan and TJ, both 17, who have been going together for many months, and on Kaitlyn and Justin, also 17, who are going to school, working and, though living apart, raising their 18-month-old son together.

Sivan and TJ, pairing off with the young parents for the first day, are quickly appalled. Diaper-changing comes as a shock, as does what goes into a diaper bag just for a trip to the store, and how is for the including virtually every minute of the day and on into the night. On the second day, Sivan and TJ reluctantly take over, a hidden camera capturing their fatigue and disillusionment with the whole set-up. That set-up, which is crafted with little sense of spontaneity, has the ring of truth by the end, when clear that temporary parenthood has made the idea of being a seem powerfully appealing. Kaitlyn and Justin, who seem to be handling their unplanned parenthood with an exceptional sense of responsibility and commitment, offer understated testimony to the limitations of their lives.

When Sivan and TJ are worn out and craving freedom after two short days, the tired teen mom says they know the half of it. consider it a complete walk in my is her wry wrap-up. Parents and young viewers can go to www.the-n.com to read journal entries from the four teens involved in the show. A parent discussion guide is also available. TUNED IN Courtesy of the HELLO, BABY: Mom Kaitlyn, left, and baby Sean get to know Sivan.

Both girls are 17. Harsh reality of the diaper life By Elizabeth Jensen Times Staff Writer NEW YORK The face-off between former President Bill Clinton and former Senate Majority LeaderBob Dole on CBS was announced as a10-week deal, and looking like the deal may end there. The two-minute segments, which are unusual in bringing a former U.S. president to a regular slot on television, launched to great media attention March 9. Executive producer Don Hewitt expressed hopes then that the feature could become a regular presence on the program, reviving a format made famous by Shana Alexander and James Kilpatrick in the 1970s.

After an almost genteel start, Clinton and Dole have gotten edgier in the seven exchanges that have aired so far, and seem more comfortable with their debating roles. Nonetheless, there is a feeling among some CBS News insiders that the segments working out as hoped, with perhaps too civilized a tone. They have covered tax cuts, the U.N., criticism of the Iraqi war plan and, last Sunday, reality TV. The war in Iraq knocked the exchange off one week; no debate aired the week of April 27, either. With a 35th anniversary special also coming up May 18, likely two of the initial 10 segments will be pushed into late May or early June, when the show traditionally starts to transition to summer repeats.

Hewitt declined to comment on the future of the segments. CBS News President Andrew Heyward said has been no discussion about anything beyond the 10 we committed to, and I guess when done the 10 certainly take a Future for Clinton-Dole on CBS dims SERIES Good day for good? Asenior prank goes awry and Fez is threatened with deportation on (8 p.m. Fox). Early contact: Apair of cybernetic aliens found buried in the Arctic Circle are Borg drones. The (8 p.m.

UPN) is sent to investigate. Into the deep: Scientists and engineers using underwater machines to explore the deepest depths of the worlds oceans are featured on (8 and 11 p.m. TLC). SPECIALS Million-dollar trooper: Clint Eastwood takes viewers behind the scenes in golden age for an inside look at one of biggest stars in Cooper: American Life, American (11:30 a.m. TCM).

MOVIES brother: Joel McCrea and Veronica Lake star in writer-director Preston 1941 social comedy (6:35 a.m. AMC). SPORTS Hockey: The Philadelphia Flyers are at the Ottawa Senators for Game 7 of their playoff series (4 p.m. ESPN2). Baseball: The Dodgers are in New York for a game against the Mets (4 p.m.

FSN2), and the Cleveland Indians visit the Angels (7 p.m. FSN). Highlights The Early Show Caroline Kennedy. 7 a.m. KCBS Today Vanessa Redgrave and Brian Dennehy; Bob and Linda Hope.

7 a.m. KNBC KTLA Morning News Musician Kathleen Edwards. 7 a.m. KTLA Good Morning America David Hyde Pierce. 7 a.m.

KABC Live With Regis and Kelly Hugh Jackman; actor Paul Rudd Shape of 9a.m. KABC Good Day Live Bernie Mac. 9 a.m. KTTV The View Matt Dillon. 10 a.m.

KABC The Wayne Brady Show David Boreanaz; Kelly Hu musician Billy Gilman. 10 a.m. KCAL Oprah Winfrey Husbands discuss being physically male and psychologically female. 3 p.m. KABC Dr.

Phil Conflict over household chores. 4 p.m. KNBC Life Times Anti-discrimination legislation to protect transgenders; threat of tsunamis. 7 and 11 p.m. KCET Late Show With David Letterman David Hyde Pierce; Ziggy Marley.

11:35 p.m. KCBS The Tonight Show With Jay Leno Dr. Phil McGraw; India.Arie. 11:35 p.m. KNBC The Late Late Show With Craig Kilborn Actor James Marsden; Alex Kingston; comic John Caparulo.

12:35 a.m. KCBS Late Night With Conan Steve Zahn; comic Andy Blitz; Jim Belushi. 12:35 a.m. KNBC Talk Shows What: Wealth and Bill When: 9-10 p.m. Friday on KCET With Bill.