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Nazi Chief Rockwell Expounds Philosophy COURIER-POST -jg CAMDEN, N. J. EL RontRige O. Tuesday, April 4, 1067 Page 13 Stephen ALLEN 0 ROCKWELL: "A smart revolutionary. He learned a lot from watching me." "What do you say to the rumor that the American Party is one gigantic hoax, perpetrated by George Lincoln Rockwell?" Rockwell did not laugh this time.

ROCKWELL: "For the sake of this, I have given up my wife, my children, my savings, my health, my retirement and my honor. Do you think I would do all that for some kind of joke? If so, it's a pretty expensive joke." ROCKWELL CLAIMS he sent his second wife, a native of Iceland, back to her homeland to live in 1958 because of the physical harrassment they were suffering at the hands of enemies. One person even threw a cherry bomb at his daughter, he said. The commander has seven children three from his first wife and four from his second-all of whom live with their mothers. "I believe the white race should procreate," he says.

"That's one of the troubles with the white race: They're taking too many birth control pillsj; You don't catch the niggers do ing that." DESPITE Rockwell's demonstrated ability to "procreate," he now lives an almost monastic-like existence, with his ever-present and usually sullen storm troopers. But he admits that he likes women. "Anyone who doesn't isn't a real man," he says. There are about a dozen storm troopers living In the large old ramshackle house, and Rockwell runs a tight bunker. He does not permit drinking or foul language, and the men are "taught to be clean and brave." WHILE MANY of them carry weapons, the guns are only for self-protection, the commander claims.

In the midst of the interview, word came through that a member of the American Nazi Party in another branch had just committed suicide by putting a bullet through his head. "It's a lonely life the commander reflected. The Nazi Partv head said that AMERICAN NAZI Headquarters in Arlington, Va. Most Nerve, Most Hated Continued From Page One nized from pictures as the "Hate Bus," so termed by Rockwell. "Car outside!" someone cried from inside the house, and I could hear the staccato sound of boots against a hard wooden floor.

A dog began to bark. WHEN THE DOOR opened a crack, I saw the face of a young man in the gloom. "What do you want?" he asked. "Is Commander Rockwell at home?" "Who are you?" I identified myself. "I have an appointment with him." "Wait a minute." The door closed and I was left alone.

After five minutes, the door opened again. "Come in You can wait in here," he said, opening the door wider. The doorman, who was in his twenties, led me into the living room of the old man-son. It was only slightly warmer inside the house than outside. "Sit here," he said, indicating a black leather chair.

I sat. "The commander will be with you in a minute." FOR WANT of something to do, I looked around the room. On the wall opposite me, behind a wide walnut desk, was a huge red, white and black Nazi flag. Near it was an American flag, equally as large, and between the two was a picture of the commander. He looked grim.

On another wall was a picture of Adolf Hitler. Swastikas and maps also adorned the walls, and on one side of the room was a cold fireplace. It looked as though it had never been used. The young storm trooper who had let me in and I stared at each other from opposite sides of the room for nearly 15 minutes. Standing ramrod stiff beside the Nazi flag, he never flinched.

MORE STORM TROOPERS began to gather from other sections of the house, and few of them said anything. I could feel a great cold gathering in my bones and I wasn't sure it was from the temperature in the house. Finally, Commander George Lincoln Rockwell trotted down the steps from the second floor. The storm troopers i leaped to attention. Rockwell greeted everyone genially, then settled down be-; hind the desk in front of the large Nazi flag.

I could see the interview was about to com- mence. I HAD THOUGHT Rockwell would be in uniform, but instead he was dressed informally in levis, a heavy brown-and-white-checkered wool shirt and a black sweater. In his mouth "What's your answer then to the rumor that the American Nazi Party is an agent of the FBI to act as a clearing house for nuts?" ROCKWELL: "Well, they said the FBI was an agent for Bobby Kennedy too." (He laughed.) "Actually I have no quarrel with the FBI. I have always found them to be square. We are a legal organization and we believe in acting within the law." "How is your organization financially supported then?" ROCKWELL: "We are supported 50 per cent by contributions and 50 per cent by sales of literature and items in our catalog." "Catalog?" ROCKWELL: "Yes, we sell such things as hatenanny records, back to Africa tickets for niggers, swastikas, photos of Adolf Hitler, copies of 'Mein copies of our monthly magazine Nazi stickers, armbands and lapel realize that I was fighting on the wrong side during World War II (Rockwell is a 20-year-veteran of the Navy and was an officer).

"Germany may have been the Alamo of the white race. "Then I read 'Mein Kampf' and it was the biggest influence in my life. "Most people are already Nazis in their hearts, only they don't realize it. You talk about rejection by the American people. We aren't rejected; that's an idea built up by the Jews.

We certainly weren't rejected in Chicago; they were following us. Americans want tough cops, they don't want some Billy James Hargis or Martin Luther King." "Speaking of Chicago and other encounters, how many times have you been roughed up in your demonstrations?" ROCKWELL: "I've lost count, but I've been jailed more than 25 "What do' you think of Stokely Carmichael?" Do Rockwell's Past Experiences Explain Conversion to Nazism? ROCKWELL: "Spirtually we are with them, but tactically we are at odds. Our racial attitudes are the same. The KKK saved the white race in America in the latter half of the 19th century, but they are an anachronism. Niggers aren't scared of people in white sheets anymore.

We are the modern Ku Klux Klan." "You once said that you thought most Jews were smarter than most Gentiles. Would you care to expand on this?" ROCKWELL: "Yes. Most Jews are smart, but they lack character and will do anything for a buck. They will push themselves on anybody, and their hose eventually winds up killing them or throwing them out. They lack the ability to be idealistic.

They are brilliant in a shallow way." "What led you into becoming a follower of Nazism?" ROCKWELL: "Well, it began with my examination of the McCarthy hearings. I began to Italy has communism ever been conquered. "We are damned fools to be afraid to follow the only examples which ever worked! "NOW IS the time for the white man to take America back from the aliens, the minorities and the terrorists now in power, under the dema-goguery of cheap politicians. "Only National Socialism combines a concern for the purity and protection of the white race with a fighting determination to stop all further mongrel-ization of our people." But despite Rockwell's impassioned speeches, some observers have questioned if he is for real. For some of his endeavors and demonstrations smack of the ludicrous.

In September of this year, he scheduled a "Hatenanny" in Southside Chicago for supporters of white power. He also led his hundred or more supporters through Negro and Jewish neighborhoods. Rockwell's most militant followers wear brown Storm trooper uniforms, shiny black boots and red, white and black swastika armbrands. This appearance does not endear them to many Americans particularly Jews. More than once, members of the American Nazi Party have been pummeled as they demonstrated against sneakers, organizations and even movies, such as "Exodus." But members of the party are pins, books about Naziism and peace creep cartoons." "Why do you use the Nazi Party and the swastika, an anathema to most Americans, as the expression for your belief?" ROCKWELL: "Because the people of America need to be shocked into action.

They need to wake up." "But when you run such things as when you sell such ridiculous things in your catalog as those cartoons and bottles of 'instant nigger' how can you expect anyone to take your organization seriously?" ROCKWELL: "We have found that one of the best ways to fight fear is with humor. And Americans are scared of the niggers. But if we can get them to laugh at the enemy, they'll see these Jews and niggers for what they really are." "While we're on that subject, what's your opinion of the KKK?" had fought for in two wars was being turned over to communism." He noticed, he said, that most of the convicted spies the Rosenbergs, Sobell, Green-glass, Gold and Moskowitz were Jews, as were the communist intellectual leaders, such as Herbert Aptheker. Recalling that Hitler said that the Jews were out to degenerate and conquer the white race by subversion, Rockwell bought a copy of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" and read it. It changed his life.

"It was a brilliant analysis of the mess western civilization has gotten into and the only plan I've ever seen for the white race to save itself and its western civilization," Rockwell said. The commander added that for a number of years, he tried to work through various right-wing organizations, but finally he became "disgusted with the emptiness, weakness, hypocrisy and especially cowardice of the so-called 'conservatives'." He decided to attack on his own. Thus was born the American Nazi Party. "The only times in the hundred years of the rise of communism that this plague has ever been actually beaten, it was beaten not by but by radicals and fighters whom the enemy calls 'Nazis' and 'Fascists' and which they really fear," he said. "Only in Germany, Spain and I SPENT AN evening the other night with the most hated woman in America.

Madlyn Murray. For those of you who may possibly not know who Madlyn Murray is she is the Baltimore atheist who was responsible for taking the Bible out of your schools. She filed a case before the U.S. Supreme Court on the Constitutional grounds of separation of church and state, and the Bible was removed. Whether you agree or disagree with Madlyn Murray, you have to admit she's a tough customer.

It takes nerve to defy the majority of a nation. AND SHE HAS suffered for it. Both she and her children have been physically set upon a number of times. She has been chased out of her home state and now lives in Austin, a town where I used to live. But I also used to live near Phoenix-.

ville, which, is where I spent the few hours with the outspoken atheist the other night. Madlyn is still suffering for her belief. She was invited to speak at Ursinus College in Collegeville, i by the campus YW-YMCA but was refused admission to the campus by college President Donald Helfrich. Mrs. Murray O'Hare (she has married since the Supreme Court decision) told me Ursinus was the first college she had ever been refused admission to.

"SHE'S A VERY persuasive person," one Ursinus coed told me. "I'm glad that they did not allow her on campus. We feel we have to protect our minds." Now this remark, for a college person, must be one of the funniest I've ever heard. If I had a son who said he went to college to "protect his mind," I'd take him out of college and get him a job as a garbage salesman. But it must be said to the credit of the majority of students that 90 per cent were in favor of her visit, according to Stephen Gordin of Hav-ertown, who was one of the youths responsible for inviting the controversial personality.

More than 80 per cent of the faculty was in favor of it, he said. A NUMBER OF the students gathered at a protest meeting in favor of Mrs. O'Hare in the nearby Oaks Fire Hall. Some of the statements she made there are an indication of why she is so controversial: "If Jesus Christ had a good idea, I would use it." (She later called Jesus Christ and Billy Graham "mental "Religion has caused more niibery to more people than any other idea in the history of the world. "I WOULD LIKE to have the Bible in the public schools but read and studied, not prayed to and compared with some decent thinkers, like Emerson.

The Bible is one of the most immoral books in the world. It is poor history, worse morality and terrible literature. Adam and Eve is an ugly, brutal and hateful story. "In the Old Testament, there is no beauty, no compassion, no understanding. I would not trade one Madame Curie for any woman in the Bible; I would not trade one Edison for any man in the Bible.

"An atheist is an agnostic with guts. half his time is now spent ui speaking tours. He used to travel with a it; now; When he must fly, yie travels alone, because of the ex-pense. "Isn't that, dangerous?" il ROCKWELL: Yes. We try to do most of our traveling in the camper truck.

"Commander, who are the men politicians you admire most in America?" ROCKWELL: "Very few. I used to admire Gov. George Wallace, but I don't trust him anymore. I think he's just a politician the same as all the rest. I guess the man I admire most is Lester Maddox.

Maddox is square, and this country is in need of men of integrity rather than just politicians. Maddox was willing to shut down his business rather than give in to what he knew was wrong." "How about President Johnson?" ROCKWELL: "Johnson would come and sit in this seat right now if he thought it would get him any more votes." "What is the eventual aim of the American Nazi Party?" ROCKWELL: "To do for the white race what the Jews have done for the Jews and organizations like SNCC, CORE and NAACP have done for the niggers: to unify the white race as brothers. When a Jew meets a jew, he thinks of him as a brother. When one nigger meets another, he thinks of him as a brother. But the white race is divided." As Commander Rockwell stood, his guards leaped to attention, and I could see that as far as he was concerned, the interview had come to an end.

I thanked Rockwell for his time, but the commander merely grunted and stalked upstairs in nearly the same manner as he had descended. One of the surly and taciturn guards led me to the door. The dog barked at me on the way out. LINCOLN ROCKWELL Pit iV" I was clenched a corncob pipe his trademark. "It's cold in here," he commented.

Then he nodded to me. Still feeling a little apprehensive about the gathering number of storm troopers at my back, I reached in my pocket for a cigarette. Immediately one of the storm troopers standing at attention beside the desk slapped his hand to the holstered pistol at his side. I blanched. And that's when I noticed that a number of the storm troopers were carrying sidearms.

"If you're going to do that again," the Commander warned in a friendly manner, "move a little more slowly You make my men jumpy." That's nothing to what they made me. QUESTION: "Commander, unofficial estimates have given the membership of your organization at anywhere from 25 to several hundred. How many members, supporters and sympathizers do you estimate you have in this country?" ROCKWELL: "We have 800 storm troopers around the country ready at any moment for street action. These are seasoned men. We have 2,000 members in the American Nazi Party, and we have 15,000 people who communicate with us." "What is your answer to the rumor that the American Nazi Party is supported financially by wealthy Jews who want to keep the memory of what happened in World War Two alive?" ROCKWELL: "I have heard this too.

It's a rumor put out by the John Birch Society. All I can say is if that's true, I would like to see a few of those Jew bucks But there are many Jews who subscribe to our publications." "How do you feel about the John Birch Society?" ROCKWELL: "Spiritually, we are with them, but tactically we are at odds." "And Barry Goldwater?" ROCKWELL: "Goldwater is a fake! He has been built. up entirely by the other side. And you can see what he led to. He led to catastrophe.

"It's a sorry state when the left wing is led by Jews, and the opposition to it Goldwater is a Jew. Doesn't that seem a little funny to you?" THE AMERICAN Nazi Party is the extended shadow of one man. George Lincoln Rockwell. But just who is this man? How many followers does he have? How is the American Nazi Party supported? The symbol of the party is the swastika, but it just as well might be the question mark for all the queries that can be posed. THE ONLY MAN who knows the answers to these questions is George Lincoln Rockwell.

First of all who is George Lincoln Rockwell? Rockwell, now 48, was born in Bloomington, 111., the son of a successful vaudeville comedian who trouped the boards between 1912 and 1935. Young Rockwell grew up on the vaudeville circuit and knew personally many of the greats of show business. He majored in philosophy at Brown University in Providence, R.I., but left in the middle of his junior year in 1940 when it became obvious that the United States was going to get into war. HE JOINED the Navy and by the outbreak of the war was a fighter pilot. He served aboard the USS Omaha in the South Atlantic and off North Africa during the invasion.

He also served on the USS Wasp in the Pacific. Eventually he became the commander of a Forward Air Control operation for the Marine Corps Assault Troops and was at Guadalcanal, Guam and other Pacific "hot spots." By the end of the war, he had earned nine decorations and was commanding officer of a squadron in Hawaii. At the end of his active duty, he attended the Pratt Institute of Art in New York City and studied advertising and commercial art. In 1948, he won first prize in a National Society of Illustrators competition. In 1949, Rockwell founded the first big national advertising agency in the state of Maine.

He was recalled to the Korean War in 1950 and trained Marine and Navy pilots. Then he was transferred to Iceland, where he became commanding officer of a squadron and met the woman who was to become his wife. (He now is divorced.) ABOUT that time, according to Rockwell, he became deeply concerned "about the way all I often on the giving end as well as the receiving. Many of the Storm troopers are, like himself, veterans, Rockwell says, and they are well-trained. "The best of the elite fighters for the white people," Rockwell calls them.

THE TRAINING ground is located at the national headquarters in Arlington, just across the river from the nation's capital. Through the training of its Storm troopers and other leaders, the party maintains it is preparing to drive to leadership of the race and the nation by 1972. In its statement of principles, the ANP contends it is a "legally-constituted political organization dedicated to the preservation of the white race, the American Constitutional Republic and our western Christian heritage." In that respect, its principles are not too different than those of the Ku Klux Klan. But it adds that the organization is affiliated with similar Nazi parties around the globe through the World Union of National Socialists. The swastika borne by the Nazi is "the age-old symbol of the white man" and is used for its shock value, Rockwell admits.

The qualifications for admission to the race-supremacist organization are: at least 18 years of age, white, an American citizen, absolutely loyal to the United States of America and its Constitution, and dedicated to the white race and western culture." THE ANP promises "room and board and a lot of hard work" to those young men willing to dedicate full time to the cause. The official publication of the party, a quarterly journal called "The Stormtrooper," contains battle photos, news stories, cartoons and reports of worldwide Nazi activities. "American Nazis believe the white people are the most gifted people and therefore the most superior race on earth," Rockwell says. "The purpose of the American Nazi Party is to free humanity from Jewish domination and subversion in all their forms, and the creation of an idealistic, racially realistic, socially progressive, international world Continued on Page 15 Col. 4 Left and Right Of the Mainstream On either side of the mainstream of contemporary thought and action lies the far right and the far left.

In a totalitarian society, one extreme or the other may become the norm; thus any degree of dissent, extreme or slight, may exist only clandestinely, if at all. But in a democratic society, dissenters and extremists not only exist openly, but may tend at times to shape the mainstream. In the accompanying articles, Courier-Post reporter Stephan R. Allen takes a look at one such organization in America today. Other articles to follow will discuss seven more organizations and the men in them, some in South Jersey.

George Lincoln Rockwell, commander of the American Nazi Party, claims to have members and sympathizers in South Jersey, but he would not disclose their names. Only Rockwell speaks for the American Nazi Party, Rockwell says. "I AM NOT positive there is no God, but anyone who says he knows there is, is a raving idiot. But I believe there is not, and I have so ordered my life I have the courage of my convictions. "I would not raise my children to be atheists but to think for themselves and sake up their own minds.".