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VOL. XLI—NO 238 Ulytlicvlile, Dally New* Blytheville Courier BWTHEVILLECOURIER NEWS Daily Newi Ri».h.«nu .7...,^ ~ '' ~ -_L_ ^1_ AKKANRA8 AND Sl)lJ ' "HAST MIB8OU1U 'V Blytheville Herald Mississippi Valley Leader DKCKMHKK MIGHILWESTERN FRONTBAffirRiFs Fighting Goes On In Greece Armed, ELAS Irregulars parading througli the street of Piraeus Greece on Deo, 4, after.being burred from Athens following street figiitin" on Des. 3. After several hopes of peace and been shattered, ami after halt- day hill in fighting, shooting once again Mas broken out (NBA tclcphoto) F.p./?. Returns To White House Following Vacation In Georgia WASHINGTON Dec. 19 (U.R)-Pre S klcmt Roosevelt has pinned into the pressing affairs of K ovenimcnl iiflei- retm-ning to the capitnl from a three-week Georgia vacation The President threw his weight first into the battle for quick approval ol his six new appointments to the State Department high command, and he got results Soon after Mr. lioosevelt returned from three weeks of rest in his other home" at Warm Springs, Ga., the .fight (toned confirmation of the nominations was aban- Senator Pepper of 1'lorlda, leader * ,. oi "!£ opposition groii!) and nor s Wally a staunch administration supporter, says he was giving up the fight i after talking with thc President : 'by telephone. The President told Pepper that if the present Congress—now trying to adjourn in lime for thc Christmas holidays—fails to act on the names then the same slate will bo submitted to the'new Congress in January. So Senator Pepper agreed to call off his fight against Ihe President's nominations. But the senator says Mr. Roosevelt has assured him (hat any of thc nominees failing to carry out the policies of the administration will be dismissed. Now it looks as if Congress will consider the six nominations today. And it seems certain that all of the nominees will win endorsement by the Senate. The confirmation vote is virtually all that stands in the way of adjournment of the 78lh Congress And with congressional battles out ol thc way, at least during the holidays, the President will have time to get at some of his other official tasks. Mr.-Roosevelt has lo complete Ihe administration's program for thc new Congress, whicli meets January 3. And after that there is thc Final draft of the government's new financial budget. Then comes the President's fourth inauguration, on January 20, vnnd he must prepare for that. February lS eems to be the logical lime for thc nxt meeting of thc bl" three, Stalin, Churchill and Roosc- ve I, at least as far as Mr. Roosevelt is concerned. And urgent questions probably will not be answered until then. There's rt Given Approval Mayor and Councilmen Sponsor Development With CAA Sanction Efforts of Mayor Ben Butler and members' of the Osceola city council to obtain authority to .construct a municipal airport there have met with success. Officials of the Civil Aeronautics Administration in' Washington have announced . final approval of Hie proposed project through Frank J .Miller and Eddie Warner of Little Rock, CAA inspcc- Kyushu Blasted By B-29s From Field In China Supcrforts Hit Enemy From Two Directions In Aerial Pincers WASHINGTON, Dec. 19 (UP) _ Japan has been served notice that she can expect 15-20 raids not onlv from the East, but from the West, as well. •Just as the Japanese were get- ing used to having Snperforls come i» from Saipan, another force descended from (he west, from china (nils setting up nil nlr pincers over Nippon. • A medium force of the B-29s pom China hit the Japanese home island of Kyushu today only one any after B-29s from Su'lpau bombed Nagoya on nearby Honshu it was n change of pace. For, thoni-h He first B-20 raids on Japan enine fiom China bases, the Supcrlorts In the For East have been concentrating on targets in the CB1 Theater of Jate. The War -Department hns Identified the target on today's raid only as industrial installations, but Tokyo said tlie raiders concentrated on I me -war production center Oinurn. •Bombards German Positions r An American self-propelled gnn valley Hi Ihc nibcDiwIlle area ef.rYnnce (Ires on German .mslllon | M Ihe . <S>"B»»1 Corps Rncllolelcpholo from NBA.) of ISlasttil Four Times Omura lies OCO miles southwest of Tokyo and has been bombed four times, before. Tiie War Department, also has announced that yesterday's ' rattl caused serious damage on the Mitsubishi plant at Nagoya bv a concentration of direct hits Re- urmng airmen .reported observing Jnrge fires and columns of black smoke billowing 1000 feet lii [he air No'B-m were' lost, to enemy action In yesterday's raid. But two .Japanese planes were destroyed, Incidentally, it's'revealed that, yesterday's raid on Hankow was carried out by the greatest American air fleet ever to fly over Chi- fin. . And the planes dropped the heav- lest load of boiribs ever Hie Asiatic mainland. ^ A front dispatch says thc attack h,? W ^ ily ^rdinated by more than 2aO Superfortresses, Libera- hau* M " chc "?' Mustang and War- nauk. More than irjM bombs hit the fh» n,..""L," 1 5_ 0 . mB . al "»'*ow, an the principal supply base for c Japanese drive through south -ecu- iina. Luzon Targets nil c " rri " planes Wildy Competes For Sweepslakes Uachville Family Has Chance For Big Award in Farm Competition Competing for Ihe Plant To Pros- ppj- grand .3\vc-?;>slnkcj, prize'to 'aC awarded in Memphis ioni B ht to the farmer of Tennessee, Arkansas, Mississippi or Missouri making the best Job of soil conservation, crop ciivcislficalion and farm nnd home management, is Enrl H Wlltly of near Leachville, winner of the Arkansas state Landowners Division ;He is competing with -13 farmers —seven landowners and six ti'nnuls -for the $500 cash prize as the most coveted'award of the annual nani lo Prosper contest sponsored by the Memphis Commercial Ap- Pcal for farm families of lh c Mltl- t\f ii^« mU- ' '-""".I [Miuu.:* crin] *%?«££$ ^-"""to'Sto • - JV»«.»«»"nS£ ffivta* l o°° hi f'' e Rccognnng lhc possibilities of an '?>>niaging !M ships and -161 nlanes unprecedented postwar boom in air, 1 " three days, transportation, far-sighted Osccola| .There Ls no late news Banquet Scheduled Tnnigbl Hie award will be made at a banquet at Hotel Pcabody, which will cjiijiax a day ol entertaining for county winners of thc four states their families who .are guests newspaper today In Me:n- i Also to be awarded th c llth an- 1 nual Award Dinner Late Bulletins WASHINGTON, Dec. I!). («!•) — .Superfortresses in ,\ ttirec-way ilnyllKhl strike today' nil enemy targets ul Oinuni, Japan, unil SliuiiKlial and NuiikliiK, Chlnii. This wns ann«iim:cil by ibc War Di'liiirtmcnl. The raiders iivcr China reported Ihe.v sbiit ilinvn jh-r. eMm y liliines prolmbly destroyed three und (l:iiiKi S rd nine others. . -Krilisl; I'rcss Assorluliim reported Iniluj Unit Kudfllf ileus, former deputy fuehrer of the Ma/1 party, is rccovcriiiB from u broken leg received when be jumped over a liannisk'r "during a brain slorm." Implement Firm Seeks Location Chicago Manufacturer Sends Representative To Blytheville One hundred and tilty iilylhcvlllc Ark-Mo Planning No Rate Increase Little Rock Report Is Called Erroneous ' ' By Power Official Announcement nnidc In a United story from UUI (1 Hock tha iuns-Mlssmirl Power Com™," M unuL- l,. I _ . ,. ' - • f • In Belgium Both Sides Pour Fresh Troops Into Action AsFatvOf Whole Western Front Rests On Result of u'ic l! \!Js£M [J ! U .'. IM -. Tlu! > ri :° iltc ^ land ami fur battle from tho' front i.s H bit more en-" wiy Hip American First Army in • UDpwii'H lo be checking the pace i*J*f> Ml'O oi tntti f li« V* ..1 * imviiiK Home succor in slabilSn? Ihdrt Wrthor sou'tir m_Luxembourg, ll,o siluation still remaiiw flufd" " • A sccuilty blackout clampc'tf dowii hy Allied hcadnuartcrs still hhrcud n details of the fighting,'as well us tho exlcnl of the Nazi gains already nmdc. I However, front dispatches'alicady . Imil repoileci (hat both sldei, were , lioiirlng In relnfoicemcnls for,, what might develop into thc decisive bat^ tie of thu western front, Then, came today's dispatch 1 rc- jxirtlng ihut the Height of American nnks, Rims and men wai beginning to.toH on tha northern half of the Nazi, offensive front, In Belgium 1 There ,-iro other..reports reflecting " ' optimism, which do TODAYS WAK ANALYSIS Germans Musi- Keep Rolling Or Lose Fight »y DAVID WliKKS Unllcd ITcss Stuff Wrllcr The Germans have made a. Mod start in their attempt 1 0 run us out of Germany before they run cut of men n ,,d tt . ca j >0 ,, Si BUI It's the Ilnlsh that pays off nnd Ihe brilllc I.s n lon« w"S' froui Tlic Nazis have scored ' their (lccpe.st Dcncd'iillons of American J'H'fll Army lines at 'points where their tunics could s\ash through without oiiposltlon from our hcavv Weapons. 9nu American soldier mimmed it , up pretty well when he retreated | buck Inlo Ileleluiu iitul exclaimed 'yon can't do very much nvnli'ut a tank with a rltle.'> So far, we have not been told very much of the BlUmtLin on Iho western froiit, beyond the fact that, thc Ocrmans WCllKe.i lllO Oil Its. rate Thursday ill«i Coni- erroncoiis, according to J' 1 ., president of Arka would seek to liicreas. schedule at n hearing- before the Arkansas mission is James Hill j,. problem of tho corporation. In a statement Issued following publication of the story In new.s- pnpers, he pointed out thill, the company has not Increased Its rates liming the past 25 years but hail constantly lowered Its rates during this time nnd Is now planning to again reduce rates ralher lliar Increase them. ; The company has an appointment with the Department of Public Utilities Thursday t/y give ovl- dcncc In a controversy between the Army and. tlie Arkansas-MlMourl Power Company on fates for B!y- to ovoii greater .not at tho moment appear to be lully Justified For Instance United Press Coiresiiondent Jack Finnk- Ish who Is on the Fh 6 t Aimy front Gays that MHIIO icpoits arc circulating that thc Ocnmin advance In llelulum has teen slowed to a snall'b paco, It not completely stopped Prankish does not say llili from Ills own obsoivfttlon He meicly sais such rcpoils aic chculaling Enrllcr, the Billhli radio quoted a, (Ur.pulch fiom the First Aimy front, saying Hie Yanks hud sealed »lf one Goimaii bie ik-throunh In Ihe north, and that Ociman -inll- cnUs.ln the soil|h weio being held Incidentally, American , hemy bombers todaj threw thelr\v,elght Into the tattle to blunt tho Cieiman - ( •-•"••i" vitu v_IV! lUlt II have made deep pllciislvc, MoiC than 300 Flying Toi- llnes, extending.>vell tressps . dropped , \\n\y io«cU of gUiniVand: -.U^clii- -bombs.'on load and iall Junctions („ -, Uoju First Ami} giaund buck ' r lntp,,Belgium;* „ bmirg. Tlie Allied iilgh command front-'of th probably wlir'not lift Hie security troops. blackout unlil after American I .Reports fiom Allied Sunicmc counter-measures have been tnken i Hciuliiunitcii do not reflect as much (o, rectify 'Ilio MLimllon. optimism as the unnirinini ™m,ric 'Ilia situation Aimed At Aarhcii However, from the accounis al Uw from (he battle Une5 In fact the . . . - --- —- 'Hlesl ;woul from headciuarters Is hnntl, It uppears that the Oennnns that the Germans not only arc ton hiwo opened n drive lo Hank, and Umilng theli offensive against the possibly envelop the Ociinnn city First Army, but are fighting Imider of Aachen, which is In American |»Bnlnst the 'Ilitid and Seventh Ar- hainls. Anclicii, In fact, Is the "lira, to (he-south — i 1 thcvllle thc question of the best way to deal with the dynamite-laden situation in Poland, and Belgium, and Orccc and rtaly. More pressing still is the mililnr situation on the \vestrn front. Mr Roosevelt must give immediate attention to the problems arising trom the strong German counter-attack to drive thc American First Army back from Belgium and Luxembourg rhc President is in good physical condition for the pile of work that lies ahead. Though the weather was unusual" in Georgia, thc President returned tanned and rested after his rigorous fourth term campaign. Mister Roosevelt did little paper work on his trip and sat in the sun every lime Ihere was sun and did a lot of swimming in the warm springs. ; His return, incidentally, puls an end to a series of wild rumors sweeping Washington for Ihc last three weeks. Flames Damage House A Negro house owned by Frank Ellis on Laclede street at rear of the former Nunnaly Grocery was damaged by fire this morning. The flames, which broke out at 6:30 o'clock, damaged interior of two rooms. Highway a site approved some time ago. Jims, Osccola would become another ol the Northeast Arkansas towns with facilities which would invite ise by cross-country air travelers. commercial planes and its local citizens who own and operate private craft, Of thc latter, several now use the lytlicville municipal airport because hangar facilities nearer home have not been available. It is estimated that more than 30 Osccola servicemen now connected with aviation will be potential users of the proposed airport when they return home. Working Mayor Butler and the Osccola council 'on the project is a committee composed of the Rev. E. T. Smith, Godfrey White and Dr. George Cone. Plans call for the use of a 35-acrc T-shape site with two runways each 300 feet \vide, one to be 2COO feet m length. There also will be ample space for a hangar aiy other facilities which might be needed. hlanrt ™ n,,n?n 7 SPOttc " mto Saipan, where the "«lc S the child U i cavc antl followed ". In the cave, they fouiw n Iii> »««m. n , his wife" and five ch! ' ,. . hlddei. ,. . me Americans took Sainan and a half months ago five Tlic men took thc frightened • back to' their unit and of- I'lcin Christmas candy, cook•' cheese. But thc Japanese to cal until one little boy South District Sets New Mark In Bond Sales concluded It is expected that the Osccola Drive Hy officials soon will complete' onm ,, plans for carrying O u t the project. ' Services Friday For Capt. Moody, Victim of Crash Funeral services will be held Friday afternoon, 1:30 o'clock, for Capt. Calvin c. Moody. 28-year-old captain killed late Saturday when his single engine fighter plane crashed while approaching the landing field -vt Abilene, Texas, where he had been stationed as pilot inslructor Chaplain George Mnrrs of Hlythc- .'Illc Army Air Field will conduct :hc rites at Cobb Funeral Home with burial at Elmwood CemetcTy Tlie body arrived this morning, ac- he best 'itli n Chicago Wheat , open Inch low close pr.cl. Dec. . lS&-\ US'i 167!.; lG7'ii IC8;i May . KiS'.l Ifi3vi IGS'/j lG2',i lf!3!J County has War Bond ccord of any of 5650 - Cr CCIlt of a'U'ounccd by ,. Pecan Point, Mississippi County chair- -/" ll " campaign last Summer, south Mississippi County with a quota of $700,000, sold bonds total- men and women may have new cm- P oymcnt opened for them ir plans I Walnut nwgi Army" Air Held. , will bo. $250 com crcc y S " ' 1>hc Arm * h[is clnl " lc " " ^ "' ^oinmciu, indastihu CoininlUco should have the same rate selieil-I u.cXmcvnfc "Ar.",'^ 'l*'*^™*^ "">"lion S) >eni ycsterdav dl«^!o lC "" 1)Ctwce " ^"K v 'cw, Texas - -, .„-,,- f — ^ff^^^^.:^^:. - J -pWs four-point farm' • lcmcnl niaiuifncturcr who Is look- Ing for a nciv location According to ,1. Moll innjor key to the entire Allied position along the liocr river front. It Is our communications hub, Tlic First Army had (o take Anchen before we could force the Germans hack to the Rocr river. Now. the Germans must retake or l.solnle Aachen to unhinge Ihe entire First and Ninth Army line ' A™7 Ah" Field and To ?'°" E ' l " C ^ A ' 1 " " 1 " t " " '"« successful year In Plant fng 4371,000' for the record made. It was second best pointed out by Elliott Sartain, member of ..„ cimltv '" thftt C " d of the t/SO Seeks Rooms For Graduation Visitors Tlic public local TJSO office made .appeal today for use rooms In private home's" for rela- -ompanied by military escort, IMder of numerous awards .m A rmv Air CT n w. . -, bravery, Captain Moodv served 2f , !» . j "elds next graduation, months in thc'paiWTcinl Zon. I ll " rtcist ° 0(i *« be Saturday. ^,,^ i.....,.. ., """"i* <^anai ione Persons wlm nin ,™,i _ . .. tives of graduate.? Armv Air nnd later in tlie (Iieatcr with Tiners." rent a room 'or winners in tile program which enrolled some I'M"-' 000 contestants this year The {.rand sweepstakes award w"l be made by Frank U. Ahlgrcn editor of Thc Commercial Appeal, wnile (he tenant sweepslakcs presentation will be by Martin Zook, chairman of the Memphis Cham- oer of Commerce Agrlcullinal Committee, which contributes both prixcs. State winners of this year and Insl year are eligible for the sweepstake "wards. I'.isrola lias Conteslanl Also entering Irom lliis .section i.s Archie Joyner of I'ascola, Mo winner of the Missouri (currant a \ v \. sion. In addition to ihe 5350 in sweepstake prizes, SISOO in cash will be awarded first, second and tlilrri place winners in both thc Landowner and Tenniml Divisions. Four state prizes in the Home Improvement Division also will be given. There are 24 state winners. rue Commercial Appeal's Plant To Prosper Enrolment Trophv will !>e presented by Jack C.irley'. editorial writer for The Commercial Appeal an d the Newspaper Trophies to editors having ihc best farm pages by Walter Durham, contest director. Tongue To Preside W. c. 'league, editorial writer of that newspaper who will preside at thc dinner, will present the trophy to tile agricultural lenders who produced the grand sweepstakes winner. The day's activities began with registration of some 50(1 farm tnm- :lles and agricultural leaders at the auditorium at 10:30 o'clock as Fred neck, well known Memphis organist, played the organ. Principal speakers al the forum 1'iograin were A. L, Waivl. educational director for the National Collonsccd Products Association, and C. W. Bailey. Clarksvllle, Term., banker and farmer. The Plain. To Prosper lunchr-m was at Hotel clnridgc with Mrs. I.ila 11 Mcki'i'son, home inunnne- _, '• -- ••• ""-n Brooks, Chamber of Commerce secretary tcntat vc agreements were arrived at mid only await approval of (he company and the Chamber of Commerce. [f the negotiations result In lo......n.'! of ;,i C pinnt here it is cx- Dcctcd that actual operations will start about Feb. I. The companv SS.? 0 - 0 . 00 s """^ feet of ,n«,?- wilh at least thai Cti micli additional The oulsidc operation. space for storage monthly payroll of Ihc in- 10 limes as much as lhc two airfield accounis and lhc pipeline Is entitled lo a. rale schedule lower than the two Army airfield.?, representatives of lhc company will say at the hearing, it was announced. "These contracts wilh the airfields and with lhc pipeline operators were executed approximately two years ago a,nd thc company explained, In good faith, to the two parties the difference between (he two schedules and at tlie lime both were satisfied wilh he con- racLs," the statement pointed out. Thc Department of Public Ulll- dustry will amount lo approximate- ! ltlcs ls nct1 »B «s «» arbitrator In 'v 512,000 and will b c a year-round ' lllc conlrl >vcrsy and the company perallon, wilh the future employ-i llns "° r> 1liI1H to Increase Its rales ope; ment depending entirely on past- nt wa ' war development-;. said Mr. f 111) said. where It operates n i , c here am would expand their operatio Just as fast as and labor was available arket condillons would pcr- Under Fire Of Red Guns By United Press Moscow today says the Russians have brought the railroad from Budapest lo Vienna under artillery Annihnr. ., >< , r flcla u ! i '! g °' com l' a »y of- fire. Thc rail Hue Ls the last Ger- l l " cmbcr ' 1 mt r be I eld om , c ' 1 * mtn r f . CrC (hc cncl « nrlr> " of tie H C " d °- " tC " CCisl011 sufflcta "< rolltc l <> Austria, and U Army guns can be job. Bui once commuted to the lask with a. MibsUinlliit part of their forces, lhc Gcrmniw inns go through with their counter-offensive all the WIKV. 'Iliere's no turning back now without siifferliif,' terrific losses. They've broken oul ol their dug-lh defenses behind the Roer and In the Siegfried Lino, nnd have chosen (o fight oul in the open. In that respect, this- new German push resembles their dcspernlo counter-drive in thc Palnisc Gap of Normandy lost summer. At that lime, the Germans threw their whole Seventh Army Into one great lunge, trying to split thc American forces In Uriltany and thc Allied forces In Nonnancly. The Germans failed to do it, and the price they paid for failure was thc almost complete destruction of thc German Seventh Army and, ultimately, the loss of al France, most of Rclglum and purl ol Holland. Enemy Ignores f.osscs According to thc front line reports, thc Germans already are suffering considerable losses for Ihe gains they are making. And yet, they arc continuing thc n- sanlt, heedless of all losses. Tills Is in keeping with the neccsMttlcs ol o big offensive. It must keep going to Its final objective at all costs. The moment It Is halted short of Hint objective, the battle Is lost. A major quc.Mion i.s, can the Allies force (he German offensive to jlow itself out, by Inflicting ex- United Press Coi respondent Robert Richards says generally stiffen ing. enemy resistance has almost stopped Gencial Fattens drive In'o Ihe Saarland Thc .Seventh Army, Under Oeneial Patch, howelcr, h reported •.till moving, (hough at a slow pace, Into thc Rhine Palatinate r,nd the outer Siegfried I inc His left wing, extending westward toward the Third Aimy sector, Is still grinding down the stubborn German fortifications Ire- fore the city of Bltche But tlie focus of the entire ftcs't- crn battlelront still centers on thc First Army front, where Ihe GcT- nians chose to,strike their biggest counter-bloV. The deepest, of several penetrations into thc American lines Is believed to have carried Nazi tank forces beyond the Belgian town of Stavold, some 22 miles west of thc German border. - . •" :e.ssivc casualties, before Jectlve is obtained. Tht German weak spol may be Nonheast of Budapest, two So- N. 0. Cotton Mar, May July Oct. Dec 2193 2185 2149 205D 2197 2190 2152 2005 2153 2185 2143 2059 2107 21SO 2152 2003 2051 21S12 2184 2147 2057 2W7 mcnl specialist for the Arkansas Extension Service presiding. The afternoon was to be devoted to theater parties and general .•:lRhl.wiii8 by Ihe visitors. N. Y. Stocks AT&T 165 Amcr Tobacco C6 Anaconda Copper 28 1-4 Beth Steel C-) 3-4 Chrysler 91 3-8 Ocn Electric Gen Motors Montgomery Ward Standard of N J ., Texas Corp .... U R Steel 30 5-8 G4 56 40 On 1-3 losses. However, the Germans probably have enough manpower to kepp tlie drive going. Unofficial estimates . place German combat .strength along thc 450 mile western battlcfront at about 7i) Divisions, with another ten divisions available for service inside Germany, unless they've already been shifted to this current drive. Incidentally, Hie Gernuuis are believed lo hnve only about twice that number holding tlie Russians along the entire 1500 mile eastern front. . .../;'«!». Good fellows Making Plans To Give Cheer With Christinas less than a week away, Goodfcllows of Blytheville arc busy with plans lo make this a yeh'r when everyone will, have* an ample Christmas dinner and when each child will have a toy In his stocking from Santa Claus. Tlic movement, sponsored by Ilia American Uglon and the Klwnnis Club, is headed this year by Dr. W. A. Grimmelt, chairman, assisted by H. L. Halsell and Freeman Robinson, who is in charge of the tov project for the Kiwanls Club. '" With each large sack of groceries to have an approximate value Of S5 they will be packed by Legionnaiits' Friday afternoon for delivery to worthy cases on Saturday. Postcards already are] in the mall to fp.milies who may "present the cards at thc American Legion Hut Saturday afternoon nnd receive their gilt package. . Weather , :: ARKANSAS-FuJr and not quite so cold this afternoon, tonight arid Wednesday. ' ' j • Minimum temperature here'last was 24 degrees, according to the ifficlal weather 6bscrvcr. So it's hardly likely that the ierman attack will bog down for nek of manpower. It's the German (inks a)id mobile equipment «eve got to step It gets tack to tht old story f you want to stop a. horseman, aim. first nt Ills' horse. ,'

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