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pW()rite Bllt Village thy Hard Luck Tartans Hope For Surprise Tomorrow They're Also-Rans, Yes But What a Battle! -us- The Pittsburgh Sports t4 SMI 1M It's Last Turkey Day Meeting of Two Teams Who Close Regular Campaigns in Battle That's Expected To Attract Crowd of 25,000 By CHESTER L. SMITH Sports Editor TT sounds a bit odd to be i- writing that Pitt and Carnegie Tech will be butting helmeted heads for the xonsoloation prize in the city's football roundelay at Stadium tomorrow but "such is the case. Duquesne -completed the business of picking IP the marbles last Saturday. dashing Dukes began bv trip- By LESTER BIEDERM AN PITT and Carnegie Tech roll down the last stretch in their football campaign tomorrow afternoon, closing out the regular reason with the annual duel at the Stadium. This will be the last Thanksgiving Day battle between the two local schools.

Next Pitt'Tech Lineup V-V, fs test? I- AJs Jt 11 Jl 1 fw i t1, -I I 'IrOWiOT 1 If ni iTin inniimmiw wtmiiii.niiniiniiifinrifliiii.-mWT.ni iffftn i. sT 1 i Grid Stars End Careers Kelley, Baugh, Parker, Toth And Others Complete School No Loafing For Pirates Pro Gridders, Back From Coast; Called Out To Practice Today Pitt is a heavy favorite to defeat Carnegie Tech tomorrow at the Stadium in their annual battle, but if the Panthers take this game lightly, the Tartans may spring another surprise as was the case last fall, when the game ended 0-0. Here are some of the stars of the two schools: Top Whitey Lee. Tech's smashing sophomore fullback; Freddy Lehman, Tartan senior halfback, and Bill Daddio, strong sophomore end for Titt. Below is Bobby LaKue, a consistent halfback at Pitt for three years.

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Kirkoff -1 oYlork. Pitt Starlium. Rosenthal, halfbacks, and Lee, fullback. Pitt last year was a heavy favorite to dispose of Carnegie, but the boys from the other side of Forbes St. touched off one of their typically stout defensive stands and wound up in fine style with a 0-0 draw.

Pitt has too much power this fall and it is believed only the strangest kind of an upset can prevent the Panthers from adding Tech to the list of victims this fall. This game will conclude Dr. Jock Sutherland's eighteenth year as a college coach and his thirteenth at Pitt. Tomorrow's encounter will be the twenty-third in the history of the two schools, with Pitt winning 16 contests, Tech five and last year the two schools effected the first stalemate. Both schools lose some high-class stars by graduation and tomorrow's battle will see the finish for Bobby LaRue, Averill Daniell, Biff Glass-ford.

Leo Malarkey, Johnny Wood, Arnold Greene, Johnny Dougert, Bobby McClure, Joe Troglione and Cleon Linderman in the Panther cast. For Carnegie, Captain Nestor Henrion, Babe Patt, Frank Chyczew-ski, Freddy Lehman, Fred Kelly, George Hall, Marshall Magee, Jack Douglass and John Challinor, call it a college football career. Wesleyan, Marshall To Clash Tomorrow Special to The Pittsburgh Press HUNTINGTON. W. Nov.

25 The second and third strongest teams in West Virginia will battle on the football field here tomorrow in a Thanksgiving Day clash. West Virginia Wesleyan meets Marshall ir. a game that looks like a tossup. Wesleyan has lost only two games out of nine and Marshall has shown itself to be one of the best teams in the Buckeye Conference. The Bobcats won 12 to 6 last year.

YOU CAN'T BEAT "ZERONE" FOR VALUE No wonder "Zerone" was the choice of 3,000,000 mo torists last winter. When you buy "Zerone" you get complete radiator protection. Its a du Pont prod' uct that costs only $1 a gallon, 2 5c a quart. Look today for the blue and yellow banner that marks a "Zerone" dealer. Grid 'Relief Plan Scored Chicago Threatens Big Ten Withdrawal If New Scheme Is Adopted The United Preys CHICAGO, Nov.

25 The Reynolds Plan, devised by a Wisconsin professor seeking aid for deserving athletes, became a storm center in the Big Ten today after editors of the University of Chicago student daily ureed the Maroons to withdraw from the Conference if it approved the plan. This new deal for athletes will go before Conference faculty representatives at their annual meeting here next week. It provides a summer institute for scholastic and athletic leaders among prep school graduates, with scholarships awarded on the basis of intensive examinations at the end of the summer season. Julian A. Kizer, editor-in-chief of the Daily Maroon, attacked the plart as a move to bring "proselyting into the open as a legal device to be employed by schools in seeking athletes." Charging that all except two or three Conference schools use "various undercover methods of subsidization." he advocated withdrawal from the Big Ten unless it "cracked down on existing practices of mem-I bers and adopts a firm policy aeainst any form of subsidization." TCizer did not list, the schools he said were recruiting, nor name those to whom he gave a clean slate.

The Reynolds Plan was originated by Robert L. Reynolds, youthful professor in medieval history at the University of Wisconsin. His idea was to place overworked athletes on an educational opportunity par with other students carrying less load in outside activity. The summer institute would be financed by alumni. Students ranking in the upper brackets, both in studies and athletics, would receive scholarships for two years, to be renewed automatically for two more years if the athletes remain eligible.

Although the Wisconsin faculty-has approved the plan, even Reynolds feels the Big Ten may reject it. "One of the chief objections probably will be that it breaks down the" high faculty barrier against professionalism," he said. "Another is it may tend to increase present rivalry and bring about more over- emphasis of athletics. TIME OUT they'll meet in October and as far i as Pitt and Tech are concerned, the Turkey Day date will be open, unless Duquesne steps in and grabs off a game for that afternoon. The Panthers will wind up their 1937 campaign against Duke University at Durham, N.

the Saturday after Thanksgiving and Carnegie will likely 'end its 1937 season the Saturday preceding Thanksgiving. Tanthers Still Hoping The Golden Panthers will take one of their finest records into this annual tiff tomorrow, a record that is still keeping the Pitt "Bowl" hopes in high gear. A 7 to 0 defeat at the hands of Duquesne and a scoreless tie with Fordham are the only black marks of the campaign. Highlights were overwhelming triumphs picked up at the expense of Notre Dame and Nebraska, rated two of the strongest Midwest aggregations. Carnegie Tech's season has been one of both joy and sorrow.

The Tartans have played better ball this Season's Records fARNEGIE T. 7 Notre 0 Mi' h. State. 7 7 Trnuilf Holy Cross. 7 6 Punine 7 14 N.

York U. 0 Duquesne 13 TITT o. Weslpran 0 iS4 W. Virrinia. Ohio State.

0 Pnquesne 7 Crt name i Knrdham 34 Penn State. 7 1.1 Nebraska 6 31 61 172 year than in seasons past, but never got their full quota of breaks. Only two teams were manhandled by the Tartans, Temple going down to its first reverse, 7 to 0, and New York U. losing, 14 to 6. Coach Jock Sutherland will take no chances with the stubborn Tartans.

He'll start his strongest team. Daddio and Hoffman, a pair of powerful sophomore wingmen, go at ends; Daniell, the latest Pitt selection for all-America honors and Matisi, are the tackles; Glassford and Dalle Tezze, guards and Adams, center. Johnny Michelosen is the quarterback, Goldberg and LaRue, halfbacks, and Patrick, fullback. Tartans All Set, Too Carnegie is at top strength, save at one position. Tackle Joe Slam-inko suffered leg injuries against Duquesne 10 days ago and 'hasn't fully recovered.

Wayne Yeknich will start in his place. Babe Patt and Steve Miklaucic are the Tartan flankers with Hudson at the other tackle. Captain Nestor Henrion and Frank Chczewski are the guards and Miscevics, center. Coleman Kopcsak will lead the boys at quarterback, with Lehman and AMAZING TEST Du Pont scientists dropped the tempera-ture to 2 1 5 bejow zero, yet even this intense cold failed to freeze a solution of "Zerone" and water. You'll never drive in weather as cold as that, but you can be sure it won't take much "Zerone to keep your car from freezing in the coldest weather you ever ill meet.

"Zerone" is so effective that you need less of it, and the rate of evaporation loss is very low. PROTECTION ALL YEAR ROUND i "Zerone" in a dean cooling system prevents rust and corrosion all year round. Tests prove, too, that with "Zerone" winter or summer engine performance is actually improved. That's because a mixture of "Zerone" and water passes off engine heat even better than water alone; KPvfW-ir mmf rU SAY MATTER WmM COLD IK. rim mi pins the Panthers, 7 to 0, and were even more potent against the Tartans, whom they subdued, 13 to 0.

Nor was there any argument over either game. The boys from the Hill simply went out and won them, ana tnai was that. Still, there is Mr. Smith much left for jTitt and Tech to fight over. The Scots can haul a pretty miserable season out of the river by -knocking off their old friends across the parkway, while 'the Sutherlandcrs not only have unexpected scoreless tie of 1935 to avenge.

But the possibility Ls that a decisive victory will them in line for a post-season game if they care to play more than likely, the Sugar Bowl, in New Orleans. Z. The Tanthers are hardly Rose Bowl timber, even though they come close to being- as good as i the best when they are en.joy-in? their "on" moments: liut there is Alabama to consider, and Fordham, too. The "'have knocked everybody kicking 5 except Tennessee, with whom they wrangled to a deadlock, "-while the Rams have all credits on their slate except ties with Pitt and Georgia. And you can't quite call those results de-i merits.

To be sure, the present setup could be given a- wry twist should Vanderbilt defeat Alabama tomorrow, while New York University was giving Fordham a neat one in the slate. Rut either eventuality is too remote to consider. Editor's Note: Don't you a word of it. When Smith talking that way, almost "anything can Anything Can Happen ETURNING to the subject im--Xv mediately at hand, we come Tace to face with another of 3hose gridiron complexities which been common, and more often than not, disastrous thi.s By no turn of the wheel the Tartans win yet an majority on the Panther side would be in the nature of a major surprise. Tech 3ias tumbled before Notre Dame.

vwith whom Pitt fairly mopped up -'the field, Michigan State, Holy Cross, Purdue and Duquesne. You are unable to discover a logical reason why such an eleven "-should be held a.s a match for that lists West Virginia, "Ohio State, Notre Dame, Penn State and Nebraska among its trophies. But there will -be a pood many thousands of "fans who will be glad to disregard this evidence and look in on the match. They have seen logic -thrown out the window too often Hn football to take anything for "granted. There is a game on the Ta--cifie Coast tomorrow that has even one bv the ears.

Washing-P ton "has to get by Washington State to become the Conference champion and make sure of the trip to Tasadena for New Year's "Dav. It will not be the easiest assignment of the day, for ob-l vious reasons. State would rel-ish nothing more than giving their neighbors the chuck, Watch Louisiana Statet -q ATURDAY brings Louisiana to State back into action. The Bouncing Buckaroos of the -Bavous are mad to get to the Tose Bowl. They play Tulane, Tand if the chance offers itself, you can bet they will pour on the burning grease so that the blaze may be scon as far away Us California.

Since they were -tied bv Texas back in the early the campaign, the brain children of the late Huey Long Jiavent been pressed. Georgia, -Mississippi, Arkansas. Vanderbilt -Mississippi State, Auburn and have been turned I inside out. It is significant that ahe Georeia team that stopped -Fordham was trimmed, 47 to They must know what to do with football down in that part of the world. The same day pits the Army Against the Navy in the Munici-: i ctoium at.

Philadelphia. It IM I ULOUluiii i lonfT Inner time since "Tiao ueni tiiit. of this service duel clinsed the martial spectacle 4 "which is its background, and this happens to be true again this -rear But it is still Army and 2Tavy and nothing else matters to them or their friends. It would lie the country's No. 1 attraction -if neither had scored a point.

The Army has done nothing "comparable with Navy's victory Lever the hosts of Notre Dame -fact, West Point made a sorry "showing the afternoon it tackled rfhe Rimblers-but by Saturday Imorning you will discover that the T-Say ciate have been the favorites. -This is due largely to the presence in the backfield of that rKm. slippery elm of the Hudson Meyer. He happens to be tble to knock the ash off a cigaret -t 50 yards with a football, and Continued on Next Fajre. i I Stanford Fears Snow More Than Columbia "We Got 'Goofy' Outfit," Says Thornhill, Explaining Inconsistent Showing Enjoy Spotting Opponents Touchdown and Coming From Behind By T7ie United Press NEW YORK, Nov.

25 Stanford's football team, more worried about the possibility of snow than of Columbia's Lions whom they play Saturday, arrived here early today. The team went to the Westchester Country Club where they will live and workout until I I i a RELY 1 'j YOU CAN Kt IT GETS 4 WJ 2 is. A As. ss-ss- ss-st-i inch of snow and that many players, who had never before seen snow, i actually were afraid to play in it. The Stanford coach predicted a tough game.

He said Columbia had scouted the Indians all season and that Low Little probably knew as much about Stanford as Thornhill himself. Thornhill said his present outfit was a "goofy" team. "That 20-0 de feat by California was a fluke," he said. "These guys play football for the fun of it. They enjoy spotting another team a couple touchdowns and coming from behind to win or tie.

And were they surprised when they failed to do that against California." Broncos Ignore Many Offers By The United Press SANTA CLARA. Nov. 24 Sam Dunne, graduate manager of Santa Clara College, said today that the unbeaten and untied Broncos have made no definite arrangements for a post-season game and will make none until after the final scheduled game with Texas Christian at San Francisco Dec. 12. Dunne's announcement followed word from various points, including Havana, Pittsburgh and New Orleans, that post-season games might be arranged.

"Before we can think of any other games we have to hurdle one of the toughest engagements on our schedule Texas Christian," Dunne said. "Those Texas boys have a habit of beating us by a field goal. We are pointing for the game, and that game alone right now." Good Kicker Tom Burnette, of North Carolina, has made good on 16 out of 18 placement attempts for the extra point this season. game time. Every one was in good shape, Coach "Tiny" Thornhill said, but added that the players were afraid of cold weather for the game Sat urday the first between these rivals since Columbia won 7-0 in the 1934 Rose Bowl game.

Thornhill said the players were so afraid of the cold during a workout yesterday in Chicago that he pur- chased 33 sets of red flannel under I wear to relieve their fears. He said they worked out at Stagg Field in an By Chester L. Smith and Jack Berger By The United Press NEW YORK, Nov. 25 Graduation will cut heavily into the ranks of practically all the top flight football teams of 1936, and in every section of the country "name" players will end their gridiron careers. Among the top ranKlng stars who retire this season are "Ace" Parker, Duke; Gaynell Tinsley, Louisiana State's All-America end; Max Star- cevich, Washington guard; Ed God- card, Washington state quarter- back; Larry Kelley, Yale end; Frank Mautte, Fordham halfback; Davie Davis, Southern California quarterback; Ed Widseth, Minnesota's All-America tackle; Steve Toth, Northwestern fullback, and Sammy Laugh, Texas Christian halfback, all-America star last year.

All the 1936 mighty elevens except Pittsburgh and Arkansas will be hard hit. In the secondary group Stanford and Southern California have the rosiest pros pects for 1937. Santa Clara, only undefeated and untied team in the land, will lose e.ght good men, including Half backs Nello Falaschi, Don Derosa and Nick Bassi. Louisiana State and Alabama, toth unbeaten but tied, suffer se vere losses. Ten top-notch players giaduate from L.

S. U. foremost of whom are Tinsley, Marvin Stewart, BUI Crass and Marvin Baldwin, guard. Alabama loses Joe Riley, Capt. "Bubber" Nisbet, Lamar Moye and five other stars.

Served Hot East Liberty Academy about 22 years ago, and then spent a year on West Virgipia University's team, throwing his 130 pounds around in big-time style! The boys are praising HARRY STUHL-DREHER for the swell job he turned out at Wisconsin this fall in his first season Badgers gave the fans an offensive team and the boys were always good for a thrill They didn't have the players to match Minnesota's powerhouse, but the Gophers could get only eight first downs, the lowest number a Minnesota team had ever made under ERNIE BIER MAN The first 17 points for the Minneapolis team came without a first down Wisconsin plays Pitt next fall WESLEY FERRF.LT Redsox pitcher, who was fined $1000 for insubordination this summer, had the dough returned after the season closed They're telling the story about the coach who didn't want his team to run up a big score and he tried his level best to keep the tally down After his boys collected three touchdowns, he sent in a fourth-string quarterback with instructions to nothing but triple-revefses wnen in scoring territory, expecting that this would make things look good, without his team scoring Imagine his embarrassment when the first triple-reverse went for a touchdown! LESTER By CLAIRE M. BURCKY The sign, "No Loafing," was still very much on display as far as Joe Bach's Pittsburgh Pirate Pros are concerned! Just back from the Far West, where they were humiliated, 27-7, by the Los Angeles Bulldogs, the Pirates were immediately ordered out to Greenlee Field for a practice session designed to get tttem into condition for a battle with the Boston Redskins at Boston Sunday. And well might Coach Bach keep his Pirate proteges busy for plenty is at stake in this forthcoming fray. A win over Boston will automatically establish his eleven as champions of their division while, on the other hand, a verdict for the Redskins might be the avenue by which the Beantowners travel into the championship. The Pirates, while weary from their long journey, need only a couple of workouts to be in the best physical condition.

The coast game meant nothing at all as far as the league title race, Bach told the boys to take things easy and they did. Art Strott, former casualty, will be able to get back into action as will Skipper Armand Niccolai, field-kicker extraordinary. The Buccos arrived in town at 10:30 last night. Sports Stew L. JUDGE TOM MARSHALL, one of Duquesne University's most ardent boosters, will be toast- master at the alumni banquet to the Dukes at the Hotel Schen-ley, Thursday, Dec.

10 A i ent Eastern sports writer and famous coach will be here as guest speakers. CHARLEY LEONE of a psburg. who attended West Chester Te a hers. Judge Marshall claims that his school is exactly 85 points better than the University of Washington! If this keeps up, Lollapalooza Tech will wind up in the Rose Bowl, playing the alumni! MATT CAVA-NAUGH, the tavern keeper, had better get a fight second's license The other nieht. MATT Viplnofl nut hiR friend- JIMMY DUNN, manager of EDDIE SIMMS, by standing near the corner and holding the bottle for JIMMY to apply the collodion to SIMMS' eye! EMIL STEIN ER and bis wife are going to the Army-Navy game in Philadelphia, but they got their tickets from California! Emil weighed only I 130 pounds he played end for Ayr 3 I I 5 He wigwags that the Admiral wants to lay an even money bet with you on the Navy.

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