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Page 24 Register-Guard, Eugene, Aug. 17, 1952 The FRKP TWt tr 7- Willi UO Graduate Convinced Saucers Are Real After Study xiere monciav Sullivan says saucers are noth He dismisses th hallucination theory quickly: "If wo accept that Bring in Your Yell or the mirage theory we have to ship" sighting may explain this. He also believes, from these reports and from reports of objects "coupling together and then parting" that a mother ship has to By JAMES WELCH Itiliiter. Guard Staff Writer Ten prominent Los Angeles men nre attracting world-wide attention with their strange hobby. Register nT "ipg believe that all these experts know nothing.

No one has right ing more than a hobby with him, and with hii fellows. But he admits there is a significance to the group't postoffice box number, 1971: "I firmly believe It will be a 20 year pull until we know what these things in our skies are." to toss them (saucers) off as recharge the batteries of her They meet once every week or BIG oUrER nothing: we don't know enougn about them yet to know even "IIM that." flock. This fits into his theory that their power is electrical.) Where do they come from? NOT RUSSIAN Sullivan does away with a Russian source in a hurry. He quotes Dr. Riedel, who of all men should know, as saying that the Reds and the German scientists (Ricdel's World War II colleagues) helping them can possibly have progressed so far in six years.

Sullivan also points out that the Russians won't even risk their Migs over our lines for fear of letting out "conventional secrets." Sullivan, in answer to questions about a possible U. S. Air Force source says, "If we thought they two to study masses of reports, graphs and treatises on the strangest phenomena of the modern world the flying saucers, the green fire balls, flying cigars and other mysterious aerial objects. One of the men is a British scientist and author. Another is a Los Angeles newspaper editor who was an Air Force pilot during World War II.

Yet another is a Columbia Studio executive, also a former pilot. Probably the most famous of the group is Dr. Walther Riedel who was chief designer at the German rocket laboratory which developed the devastating V-2 and other advanced weapons. Five of the members are in the guided missile industry in Southern California. SULLIVAN IS LEADER Led by Ed Sullivan, former newspaperman, technical writer and now a designer and manufacturer of warehousing equipment, they call their organization "Civi-' ian Saucer Investigators." Sullivan, whose wife Gretchen is the daughter of Judge and Mrs.

C. A. Wintermeier of Eugene, was a Lane County visitor last He was on vacation, touring the Coast and visiting friends and relatives. But was not forbidden, because to Sullivan, a 1930 eradaute of the University of were being made in Wichita we wouldn be bothering about them." Here, Sullivan of all men should know. He exchanges saucer information with the Air Force and occasionally works with an Air Intelligence man assigned to saucer investigation.

They must not come from earth, Sullivan says, "because no known metal can withstand their speed, they are powered by something completely unknown to our missile experts, no known aerodyna mic structure can negotiate the ED SULLIVAN of Los Angeles' "Civilian Saucer Investigators" discusses the organization at the home of his wife's parents, Judge and Mrs. C. A. Wintermeier. tight turns observed nor could any human live through their centri fugal force." NO SAUCERS CRASH He also notes that earthlings Oregon, flying saucers are mighty jerious around the craft and it flew up- Sullivan's interest in saucers warti at terrific speed, was whetted in an obvious way.

An airliner crew was asked by He describes himself as a control tower to check "a very chan.cally minded newspaper- bd over sjoux city Tne man." His career bears out the dived at the airli passjng description. On leaving school he abQut Jee(. front jts nose don build perfect craft; our airplanes crash all the time. Saucers haven't. Went TO tne uregoil dumiicu tta em space, without air resistance, it may be one of the most efficient "from several Sullivan's crew is also working on some of the rarer types, which turn up regularly but less frequently than the cigar and saucer.

There is the "bike wheel" which usually is seen in. threes. They generally come over the horizon flat, like smoke rings, and then turn up on edge and just "roll along." They are some 40 to 60 feet in diameter with transparent centers. They have been reported from Canada, Massachusetts, Lou advertising man. From there he BOY Now we con CACKLE I went to other newspapers around the West.

And when the guided missile industry boomed in South' YOU ARE INVITED TO SEE em California, he combined his talents by becoming a technical Both pilots wrenched their heads back to see where it had gone only to see that it had somehow and at high speed reversed its direction in a split second and was now flying parallel to fhe airliner, about 200 feet away. It was clear moonlight and they saw a cigar-shaped fuselage, a glider-type wing well forward without engines or jet pods. There was no exhaust glow, but a white light appeared to be recessed in the bottom of the fuselage. It was about the size of a B-29 or larger. An observer, who verified the sighting, was an isiana, Pennsylvania and New The Eugene Register-Guard's 1st Annual York.

PRECIPITATE FOUND Another rarer sort is the green fireball. It's a huge thing and it has been peppering the southwest. First thought to be a deluge of meteors, it is now listed in the Air Intelligence employe. Civilian Saucer Investigators have analyzed, carefully, only 220 "unexplained" category. The writer for North American Aviation's missile program.

MISSILES, SAUCERS SIMILAR Missiles and saucers are of the same general ilk, and Sullivan's interest in one fostered an interest in the other. Then about a year and a half ago he and two colleagues were standing outside the North American plant when a batch of saucers came rolling over the horizon. The three writers, and many others in the area, all saw the same thing in the daylight skies: About 30 round, blue, saucerish objects, which filled a large part of the sky, making sharp angle turns. They were self-contained sources of light, not just shiny. They travelled at an estimated 1,700 miles an hour and were 30 l'cet in diameter.

The missile experts and pilots fry area swuvuuunc of their 1,500 reports. They show that most viewers see disks and that the cigar-shape is second most often seen. Next comes a sphere (which could be a saucer seen from only the flat side) and then the lights in strings or forma change came about when astronomers tried to find meteorite particles where it should have landed. None have ever been found a definitely un-metear-like characteristic. Then too, they travel much slower than meteors, are bigger, brighter, and they coast along parallel to the horizon, without falling.

Sometimes they explode, but still no meteorites. In all cases investigated, a copper precipitate has been found in the air they passed through. There tions (which could be a group of saucers or cigars). SIZE OF B-29 Many sighting are surprisingly FRIDAY, AUGUST 7 P.M. EUGENE MUNICIPAL POOL similar, according to Sullivan.

A at the plant said they were no great part of the cigar sightings. is rarely copper in meteors. And for instance, set the size at about that of a B-29, some 100 feet long or slightly more. Most saucer reports tell how it wobbled. Geiger counters go wild when they pass.

Then there's the splitter. Countless reports have come in, sev (That wobble, incidentally, is eral obviously of the identical objects of saucerish craft which split in two or even three. inherent in the aerodynamics of a saucer-shape, according to the experts on Sullivan's board. But the saucer shape isn't all bad. In outer (Sullivan thinks the.

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MAIL BOX RENTED Nine months ago he rented a postoffice box in Los Angeles and made it known he was offering sanctuary to all frustrated saucer sighters. The PO box offered an anonymity to those with reports. The Air Force at that time was still openly skeptical and newspapers were tired of running the endless reports "from everybody who wants his name in the paper." Sullivan was not after the publicity seeker, but the person who felt he had helpful Information. 1,500 REPORTS MADE To date. Civilian Saucer Investigators, PO Box 1971, Los Angeles 53, has received 1,500 reports of sightings, many of them as detailed and scientific as an astronomer's account of a meteor Dr.

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6 Extra Deluxe Trays zy For semi-automatie changer $000 passage. In fact many of the reports have come from hard-shelled astronomers who had thought there was "nothing new under the sun." And astronomprs aren't the only ones who have seen saucers. Reports have come in from all sorts of experts pilots, weather observers, missile designers and all sorts of scientists. The mass of reports have convinced Sullivan and his associates of several things: That saucers are shockingly real, that they come in some half-dozen different patterns, that they are powered by some source not used by earthly aircraft, that they are guided by some intelligence if not superior to ours at least further advanced, that they fortunately are not aggressive and that they come from outer space. BASIS OF CONCLUSIONS Several of the multitude of reports which lead to their conclusions follow: Two men one a jet pilot and one a guided missile engineer-were standing on the Southern California coast.

From off the ocean, at an elevation of about 5,000 feet, came a cigar-shaped object. It flew straight toward the coast at high speed, passed over them, flying on to the east (where atomic tests were then under way at Las Vegas). It was daylight. The view of the obiect was unobstructed. The pilot said was not an aircraft.

The missile man said It was not a missile. "BRTQHT LIGHT" CHECKED Three men all employed by Douglas Aircraft Co. spotted in th iy large solid object, nearly baffond the sight of the naked eye. AH found binoculars and watched Mien "saucer." From an opening in a forward part of the starboard side of the craft came two smaller objects. They circled the mother ship, flew in a straight pattern and then re-enlered the opening.

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