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McCain denies a Kimball charge that he has Voted for defense measures every single time and opposed those that would reduce spending. He says he voted for a measure that reduced Reagan's defense-spending -request by $30 billion, and he produced a vote on Aug. 11 that delayed funding of a weapon called the Bradley Fighting Vehicle, opting instead for further study. The Congressional Record quotes McCain as saying: "We are being asked to spend a billion dollars this year on the Bradley, and we're still not sure whether it can carry out the mission for which it was designed." The No. 1 international issue facing the nation, McCain says, is "arms control and the threat posed by nuclear war." On the domestic side, he says, "it's got to be the deficit" Responding to another Kimball charge that he has voted against, education, McCain concedes that he supported an appropriations amendment to "bring back in line" funds for aid to college students.

Though McCain gets a low rating from the National Council of Senior Citizens, he says it is a distortion to say he voted against retaining cost-of-living increases for Social Security recipients. He did vote against the Democratic proposal for cost-of-living raises, as all Republicans did, but voted for an identical resolution sponsored by the GOP, McCain says. "Nobody in his right mind would vote to cut senior citizens' benefits," he says. At one of his fund-raisers, McCain fields several questions on a new immigration law passed last week by Congress. He says he voted against it because "it would institutionalize discrimination." The measure includes penalties for employers who hire illegal aliens, and McCain suggests that to avoid a problem, employers simply will not hire Hispanics if there is any question about their citizenship.

On the 55-mph speed limit, McCain says it bothers him that "we all violate it and that can lead to a lack of respect for other laws." He favors allowing governors to increase the limit to 65 mph on rural stretches of interstate highways. McCain brushes off another charge from Kimball that he has been avoiding debates. Not so, 6ays McCain. Of the 34 Senate races around the country, most have scheduled no debates. A few have three, which is how many were scheduled between Kimball and McCain.

The first was held Friday, the second is scheduled for tonight in Tucson, and the final one is set Jot Tuesday in Flagstaff. Even if he were trailing Kimball in the polls, McCain says, he wouldn't have employed a different strategy. Basically, until Congress adjourned last weekend, McCain was running his campaign on weekends and on television. Now that he is campaigning full time, McCain goes through the standard routine of glad-handing and even baby-kissing. But at a Scottish picnic in Kiwanis Park in Tempe, McCain and his wife, Cindy, were urged, in a friendly but firm way, to gulp a shot of potent Scotch whisky.

McCain goes first "Whew," he says. "It's bringing tears to my eyes." Cindy McCain takes it in a couple of sips. Later, both say they were afraid that the booze might not stay down. It did. And at a veterans rally in Encanto Park, a group of Girl Scouts clusters around John McCain for a picture.

"Just don't put the balloon in front of my face," he says, grinning. An old-timer comes up to McCain and says proudly, "I served with your dad in the Pacific." McCain politely corrects him, "That was my grandfather." Both McCain's father and grandfather were Navy admirals. McCain says people should vote for him because of his experience in Congress and because he would be the most effective. He describes himself as being "pragmatic, conservative and bipartisan." Though a member of the minority Republicans in the House, McCain says, he landed a job as chairman of a task force dealing with Indian issues. He says that Indians control 27 percent of the land in Arizona.

Until now, he says, he left military matters to Goldwa-ter while he concentrated on issues of more concern to Arizona, such as bilingual education and dam safety. He favors voluntary prayer in school and supports the right-to-life movement but says, "I'm pragmatic. I don't try to solve the abortion problem on the floor of the House. Look, I'm not saying I'm the hottest thing to hit the House, but I get the job done." McCain Continued from Bl produced a quick $2,000. Later, at a lunch in the elegant Chandler home of C.W.

Jackson, a real-estate developer, McCain's campaign treasury swelled a bit more. McCain opens his remarks by tweaking Kimball: "Everybody is an expert on foreign policy. AH you have to do is read War and Peace. I'm not sure my opponent read it He probably read the Classic Comic version." In an interview, McCain talks about his voling record and what he meant when he said the election would not be a referendum on that record. "I meant it would not be a referendum on every single vote," he says.

"There were more than 2,000 of them. It's a mistake to pick apart 2,000 votes. You can do almost anything you want with a voting record." McCain says he supported every single environmental bill that became law, including measures covering clean-water and "Superfund" legislation on waste cleanup. Kimball, however, has produced a list of environmental measures that McCain voted against, but McCain explains, "There are differences of opinion on some amendments. Some may view them as 'anti-environmental.

I don't" McCain was miffed that the Sierra Club gave its endorsement to Kimball but says he was naive to think the environmental group would support him. "I didn't appreciate how Democratic-bent they were," McCain says, noting that two years ago, the Sierra Club endorsed 193 Democrats in Congress and 12 Republicans, with all of the GOP members coming from districts east of the Mississippi River. "I'm against a nuclear freeze," McCain says of one of the club's key issues, on which he is at odds with the group. "Yes, I was disappointed, but I'll still work for environmental issues." He talks of his working relationship with Rep. Morris Udall, chairman of the House Interior Committee, and of the support he has received from sportsmen's groups that likewise have an interest in the environment The candidates differ sharply on President Reagan's so-called "Star Wars" defense program.

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Only about 80 percent of your registered -voters actually vote." Carlson said she has not seen the results of the latest polling done by the Mecham campaign. Libertarians back Mecham The state Libertarian Party has announced its endorsement of Republican gubernatorial candidate Evan Mecham. "Although we differ in the area of victimless crimes, Mr. Mecham is far and away the best choice on the ballot," said Peggy Jeney, state "Libertarian Party chairwoman. Jeney listed Mecham's promise to cut the sales tax and to limit the powers of the Department of Public Safety as two of the reasons for her party's support "The mere fact that the Phoenix newspapers (The Arizona Republic and The Phoenix Gazette) repeatedly attack Ev Mecham shows me that the only special -interest group he represents is the people of Arizona," Jeney said Monday.

to be doing. "When you look at the fact these other candidates have had months and months and we've had six. weeks, I think it's a groundswell of very broad-based support around' the Btate for this candidate," Regan said. "I think it's clear that our message is getting across. They (the voters) are getting a chance to 'sample Mr.

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