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THE COURIER-JOURNAL, LOUISVILLE. KY.. SUNDAY MORNING, OCTOBER 1, 1961 SECTION 1 Rusk And Gromyko Talk On Berlin Called 'Useful' : They May Med Again Soon In Washington ! By TIIOMAS J. HAMILTON C New York Tim New ttrvic ' New York, Sept. 30. Secretary of State Rusk and Andrei Gromyko, Soviet foreign minister, talked again Saturday on the Berlin crisis. A United States spokesman said that the conversation, which lasted 4li hours, had been "useful." ;. Saturday's was the third talk between Rusk and Gromyko since the General Assembly convened September 19. . Kennedy Due Report It is expected, a U. S. spokesman said, that they would meet again in Washington next week, and that they would probably see President There is no need of a Munich type of surrender over Berlin, columnist C. L. Sulzberger writes on Page 8. Kennedy before Gromyko leaves for Moscow around October 9. Pierre Salinger, press secretary to Kennedy, had a talk with Rusk immediately after ! the meeting with Gromyko tended. It was assumed that the President wished to obtain a firsthand report about the conversations before he returns to Washington Monday. ; The two foreign ministers, with their German experts, met at Rusk's apartment in the Waldorf Towers at 10:30 a.m. Luncheon was served at 2 "p.m., and the talks continued over the luncheon table until shortly before 3 o'clock. November Talks Possible According to reliable sources, the earlier talks have produced no change in the ;' AS I V '1 AitociaUd Pr Wirpholo BERLIN IS TOPIC . . . Secretary of State Rusk is pistured looking toward Soviet Foreign Minister Andrei Gromyko as they held the last of their New York talks on the Berlin crisis yesterday. : tycii Cotmcr-Jfonrnal - Consolidation of the Form, Not. 22, - 1826; The Louisville Daily Journal, 1830; - The morning Courier, 1837; The Daily Democrat, 1843. First issued as The - Courier-Journal Noy. 8, 1868, by Henry ; Watte rjon and Walter N. Haldeman. Published by Courier-Journal and Louisville Times Company. , Member ot the. Associated Press; The Associated Press is entitled exclushrely to the use for republication of all the local news printed in this newspaper, J well a all AP news dispatches. Published by The Courier-Journal and LomsTille Times Coy dairy said Sunday - at 63S W. Broadway, Louisville S, Ky. Seeood-class postage paid at Louis-' tiHe, Kentucky. SUBSCIiniON RATES BY MAI Ky,InL,TeML 1 Year 6Moe. I Moa. 1 Mo. Dolly Cewtofstounwl ' 18.20 9.10 4.85 1.S3 (vnWoyCiiemal 10.40 5.20 2.80 .90 Daffy mni Sunday CeuriarJoumal 28.60 14.30 7.15 2.45 Bates for other states quoted on request Mail orders not accepted from localities served by delivery agents. Ra1 far Carrier Mivtry Daily Courier-Journal, 35c week. Daily and Sunday Courier-Journal, SSc Sunday only 20c Soviet demand that negotiations with the Western powers be confined to two Issues: a German peace treaty and the status of West Berlin on the basis of that treaty. The Western powers hold that this is too narrow a framework, and contend that negotiations should include broader issues, including European security. Gromyko has given no commitments on such a broadened agenda. If agreement can be reached, it is believed that Big Four negotiations will start in Europe in November. Suggested Tree City In his General Assembly speech at the United Nations, Gromyko merely restated the Soviet Union's determination to sign a peace treaty with East Germany, and said once more that it would then be up to the Western powers to negotiate with East Germany on rights of access to West Berlin. He suggested that the status of West Berlin as a "free city" be guaranteed by the four great powers, as well as by the United Nations. Western sources interpret the speech as meaning that the Soviet Union would guarantee self-determination in West Berlin and access to it on con dition that the rights of access are negotiated first with the East German Government. May Hint A Basis . According to reliable sources, the United States has no intention of opening negotiations on this point with East Germany, before or after the Soviet Union signs a separate peace treaty. Some diplomatic authorities, however, believe that the So viet statement may contain the germ of a basis for getting around the troublesome question of whether the West is willing to have any dealings with East Germany in other words, to extend de facto recognition. As an example of such possibilities, it has been suggested that Western, West German, and East German transportation experts might get together during a Big Four conference to discuss detailed arrangements for the rights of access to West Berlin. If they reach an agreement the Big Four could then guarantee it. Wtstern officials had no comment on such a suggestion. However, it previously has been made known that Rusk was checking up on exactly what Gromyko meant by his reference to guarantees of a settlement. 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Steinstuecken is in the American sector of West Berlin but is actually an enclave a mile inside the Soviet zone. General Lucius D. Clay flew to that same grassy field recently to affirm American determination in West Berlin. American helicopters have landed frequently on the field to fly in supplies to a three-man U. S. Army military-police post set up there after Clay's visit. But there was no immediate indication that the U. S. military mission would challenge the latest Communist barrier. Townspeople of Steinstuecken immediately began building a new helicopter landing pad. They felled fruit trees and leveled out garden plots behind their homes to maintain their only link with the West. Seven East Germans reached Steinstuecken last week and were flown to safety in West Berlin in a move that brought Communist charges of "kidnaping." The Communists built their new fence right across the only road leading from West Berlin into Steinstuecken. However, it has been years since an American military vehicle was driven to the enclave. Construction of the barbed-wire fence caused considerable hardship to the villagers. Many were cut off from the street leading to the only local general store and were forced to walk there through back gardens of neighbors. The Steinstuecken wall-building was only one of many such Communist operations around the border today. They converted new fields and garden plots into a no-man's land and they removed more buildings and trees to give a clear field of fire on would-be escapees. West Berlin police said about 20 East Germans fled to the West during the past 24 hours. Red Exhibit Agrees To Terms, Same As U. S. Faces In Russia Medical Show Goinji Ahead Washington, Sept, 30 if) The Russians have agreed to two . United State, mditions and wjll go ahead wiut a medical exhibit in Chicago and Minneapolis, the State Department announced Saturday. A dispute had prevented, its showing at the Oklahoma State Fair in Oklahoma City a week ago. Similarly, a U. S. transportation exhibit will be shown as scheduled in Kharkov and Stalingrad, Russia, but not in Moscow, where it was to have opened September 23. The dispute had threatened a major rupture of the U. S.Soviet cultural-exchange program under which the exhibits were arranged on a reciprocal basis. U. S. Review Pact But Francis W. Tully, State Department press officer, said Saturday that the dispute has been settled and "the department is pleased to announce that the exchange of exhibits has been resumed." For one thing, the Russians agreed to let the State Department review the Soviet contract with Ivel Construction Company of Brooklyn, N. V., for handling the Russian exhibit. State Department officials, explained that sponsors of the U. S. exhibit in Russia were required to contract" with the Russian All-Union Chamber of Commerce under terms which they said included assignment of excess Soviet personnel. This added thousands of dollars to U. S. costs. Hiring Liaison Man The Russians, on the other hand, were free to. negotiate with private firms here for the lowest possible price, although the department demanded the right to review the contract before signing. This presumably would give the department some measure of control over costs charged to the American exhibit in Russia, through possible threat of retaliation. The Russians balked, but now have agreed to the review. In addition, they have agreed to hire a liaison man or Retired N.Y.C. Official Dies White Plains, N. Y., Sept. 30 (,1V-Richard E. Dougherty, 81, a retired vice-president of the New York Central Railroad, died here Friday. public-relations supervisor, as Tully called him to perform services similar to those of a Soviet staff which had been required for American exhibits in the Soviet Union. As a result of the new agreement, Tully said, the Russian exhibit will open in Chicago October 13 for a 21-day showing and then move on to Minneapolis. The U, S. exhibit in Russia "will open in Kharkov October 22 and movejm to Stalingrad 2 X-l.r Pilots (Jet Flight-Test Award Los Angeles, "Sept. 30 Two pilots of the record-sbattertng X-15 rocket ship were jointly awarded the Iven Kincheloe Award Saturday. Maj. Robert M. White, United States Air Force, and Joseph A. Walker, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, accepted the award. It is annually given for the greatest contribution to flight testing. The award is named for a test pilot who was killed while testing an aircraft at Edwards Air Force Base in 1958. 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