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3 the the the the the the the the the BRANCH The Tustin TUSTIN Page 1 In the Heart of the Orange Section. Belt FORTY YEARS WORKING FOR TUSTIN VOLUME XLI 10 CENTS PER COPY TUSTIN, ORANGE COUNTY, CALIFORNIA THURSDAY, OCTOBER 29, 1964 LI 4-4110 NUMBER 50 CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT oath is sworn to by Tustinites Oct. 19 at the council meeting. Administering the oath at left is Col. Buel Williamson, city Civil Defense director.

Taking the oath that they will step into governmental positions, if needed, in emergency (L-R) are: Vincent Humeston, Arthur Carleton, and Myrl Sheridan. -NEWS Photo Foothill Homeowners To Oppose Katnik East 17th Spot Commercial Bid to Meet with Determined Fight Foothill Homeowners Association vowed Monday to fight the Eugene Katnik spot commercial proposal for 17th between Yorba and Esplanade "just as vigorously as we know how," in the words of Cowan Heights. The association met at Foothill High School. Ambrose termed the Katnik application "spot zoning at its very worst." "If we don't win here, we've got more problems than we can really cope with," the chairman elaborated. The Katnik proposal has been set for hearing before county planners at 3 p.m.

Wednesday, Nov. 18. The chairman remarked that a study showed 15 per cent of 17th St. to be unusable for subdivisions, unless the individual property owner decides to a pool land. resources with someone else.

Another 2 or 3 per cent of the land flanking the street, he said, is totally useless for any type of development. "But. this is no excuse for turning all of 17th St. into commercial developments," Ambrose declared. iS Speculation He added that speculative property owners are no more entitled than anyone else to a bonus, just because 17th St.

happened to be made a main artery, instead of Fairhaven for instance. "But, there is no end to this sort of thing and there is no reason to prodict that there will be," the spokesman went on. Ambrose disciosed the organization has not hired an attorney specifically for the Katnik case. However, he asked for seven or eight volunteers to follow with competence each case the association runs into which concerns its area. Ed Haworth, Tustin city planning advisor, pledged planning cooperation of the city should the Foothill association wish to be encompassed in the area of Tustin's proposed general plan.

The city, he said plans to send recommendation of denial of the Katnik. bid, with reasons, to the county. Ambrose expressed the group's sentiment orable to the city's plan study Wants To Start Local Boys Club parks recreation and mission for study and recommendation. The motion was unanimously accepted by the council. Robert Gilman, Santa Ana 20-30 Club, Monday received from Tustin City Council a favorable response to his request for permission to establish a Boys Club in the city.

Gilman said the 20-30 Club, which meets in The Revere House, is without a project, thus would like to start a program for elementary and junior high school boys, of which there are some 2100 in the Tustin School District. The spokesman said it will take. some 30 days from the time permission is granted to get the program moving. The program, he added, must started through contact with? the schools. Gilman informed the council the 20-30 Club is covered with its own insurance policy.

Dr. R. I. Klingelhofer remarked that the city needs such A program, moved for referral to the com- JOHN E. BAKER PASSES AWAY John E.

Baker, 71, 1192 SE La Colina passed away Oct. 26. Funeral will be held at 2 p.m. in the chapel of Tustin Mortuary, the Rev. 'Charles P.

Salvaggio, Tustin First Baptist Church, officiating. Burial will be in Fairhaven Memorial Park. Baker is survived by: his widow, Nellie, of the home; sisters, Etta Clark and Bertha Henard, Santa Ana, Eva Nickey, Modesto, Olive Allman, Phoenix, and Zoe Winterbourne, Sun City; and a brother, Aryland Baker, Santa Ana. Tustin Turn-Ups TO By BILL MOSES Tustin High School's zona. On the community and county front we hear a number of Tustin area.

electronics engineers, wizards and genius types were to meet Tuesday night and Wednesday to study the Coleman Vote Tally Machine which is to be used as a vote tabulator Nov. for all county votes cast. Some of the experts, while not criticizing this machine, have doubts about complete accuracy of any electronics device and hope the board of supervisors and the county clerk will see to it that the machine tabulation is proved to satisfaction by a substantial manual counting of of its president, Jim Ambrose which is currently underway with guidance of Consultant Ted Adsit. Ambrose reminded his group that' application has also been made' for use of the 17th and Lambeth Way corner for an old folks home, and asked members to inform him of definite permits for such things as ridling stables in the area above 17th and Newport Ave. Small Step He explained it is a small step from a private operation which is not doing too well to commercial venture.

The spokesman remarked he heard of professional zoning being granted at Warren Ave. and Newport above Wass which is supposed to' be the northerly limit. for other than residential zoning, by agreement with the county. He said there an application for more professional farther down Warren. Hearing for this has been set, at 1:30 p.m.

Wednesday, Nov. 4, before county planners, the chairman said. Ambrose also spoke of rumors of various interests shown in commercial development at Newport and 17th. On motion of Cecil Marks, the association voted to oppose the proposed alignment of Bond St. with the present northerly extension of Newport at Ave.

The proposal, approved by county planners, would funnel tight traffic down Newport and could lead to a demand for commercial development in the area, Ambrose explained. The Bond St. matter comes before county supervisors at 11 a.m. Thursday, Nov. 12.

Joseph C. Truxaw, Toups Engineering, recommended an extension of the Oasis Study of 1959, which did not show the Bond St. alignment. Marks agreed with Truxaw that the alignment seems illogical in view of projected population and traffic patterns in the area, precincts votes that would the new equipment beyond any doubt. As taxpayers they have the right to seek this, we would suggest.

SHORT-DOYLE CONTRACT County supervisors made application with the to participate in the health clinic program under Short-Doyle Act. The voting unanimous by the board bers present, Supervisor liam Phillips being absent. VALEN SON For Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Valen, 13361 Mt.

Hood was a baby boy Oct. 16 Joseph Hospital. ADMINISTRATOR STUDY CONTINUED TO OCT. 31 City administrator ordinance study session Monday night was continued to Saturday, 31, at 8. a.m.

in the old council chambers. All citizens are invited to attend the Saturday meeting. The sessions are working to prepare a draft of the proposed ordinance for hearing, probably at the Monday, Nov. 16 council meeting. It was originally hoped to have the hearing Nov.

2, but continuance of the study makes hearing postponement likely, according to City Clerk Ruth Poe. The study committee, working with City Attorney Jim Rourke, was authorized at the Oct. 19 council meeting. The city administrator study committees of the past and present city councils have returned generally negative views regarding the city's need for an administrator, one quite recently. City council, however, has expressed desire to hire such an executive.

Action County School Board members clusion that school administrators business attending a politically hours. The conclusion came board declined to take policy action, declaring that it has no authority over the work schedules of local districts. Clay, Mitchell, trustee from Laguna Beach, maintained Thomas Braden, chairman of the state board of education, was pushing a partisan candidate in the 71st Assembly District race. This, he claimed, is souring people on the school construction bond issues. "I think we must keep our school affairs out of partisan politics," Mitchell stated.

Pat Arnold, Anaheim trustee, told Mitchell he saw his name associated with Bobl Badhan. School, Political Action Discussed Oct. 22 arrived at the conin San Clemente had no -flavored meeting during school after heated argument, but the 2 Responded Arnold, "It's been in the schools since I was on the board, and that was 24 years ago." "These men did it on school time, and I can show the declared a. Mrs. Wilkinson San Clemente.

She pointed out a newspaper article of the Thursday before the luncheon, said it showed that the educators would be absent from school from noon to 2 p.m. And, the administrators did all take off, she said. Jordan and Arnold then agreed that they should lot have participated in politics that time. A Mrs. Montgomery, Newport Beach, asked if the incumbent county board was not going take action or establish a procedure on the matter.

Can Do Nothing Dr. Willard Saucerman, county superintendent of instruction, replied the board could do nothing. Mrs. Wilkinson informed him the San Clemente board members were also present the luncheon, and she had appeared before them on the mattr, but to no avail. Jordan reiterated the argument that the county board has no jurisdiction.

Another woman from the audience asked, "Grand Jury, then?" Dr. Saucerman elucidated that educators generally go to hear Braden, when they have the op(Continued on Page 6) Foothill Grid Teams Win Victories as Knights Hit Troy, San Clemente Foothill's junior varsity team won a 13-6 victory over Troy High School Monday afternoon on Loper Field. A spectacular pass interception was made by Paul Cleary who galloped 70 yds. to score six points. Jim Lewin in a slick pass pulled 60 yds.

for another TD. PAT was run by Jim Alexander. The squad met with its first league victory of the season Friday at San Clemente as the Knights trounced the foe 26-14. The Knights made an active aerial effort led by Ralph Myrehn who tossed the ball three TD's; two to John Galla- Mitchell replied he was not talli ing to people in the education field on the subject, but has a right to do what he wants on the outside. Arnold contended such is beside the point.

Can Pressure Mitchell argued that principals and other administrators are in positions to bring pressure on district employees, thus should refrain from politicking within the district. "I'm not going to tell them what to do," insisted Arnold with finality. Mrs. Howard Hanson of Tustin asked to be heard, was gaveled down hard by Don Jordan, board president, who said he feels it is the educator's right to participate in politics. Mitchell claimed used to be absent from schools, politics, which now have too much of it.

and one to Jim DeHoney. The other TD was scored by John Helton who followed up a 60-yd. run by Jim Kantorick. PAT'S were scored by Kantorick and Helton. The "B's hit Lowell High Friday at 3:15 on Loper Field.

The "C's" put forth a strong offense as well as a sparkling defense to blank San Clemente 18-0 Friday afternoon on Loper Field. Two excellent passes from Gary Rossman to Tim Worsham resulted in 12 points by Worsham. Final TD was scored by Dave Goodwin. The "C's" play Lowell Friday at 3:15 on La Habra Field. KATNIK PROPOSAL INCLUDES 10 COMMERCIAL 17TH AREAS Eugene Katnik's application, set for hearing by county planners at pm.

Wednesday, Nov. 18, envisions 10 separate areas of local business zoning under 18 different owners along both sides of 17th between Yorba and Esplanade the county planning department reports. The largest commercial area would stretch from next to Call Dairy to Prospect on the south side of 17th. Another would lie between the flood drainage ditch and Laurinda Way on the north, repeated by a stretch between Laurinda and Prospect. Electronic Experts To Check Vote Tally TUSTIN EXECUTIVES cinct once out of its envelope.

Thus, they are not identified in a Team will take part in a Varsity Debate Tourney Nov. 5 at Magnolia High School with six Tiller teams participating. The Tiller talkers spoke to a third overall rating in Saturday's Orange County Returned Varsity Speech Tournament at Huntington Beach's Marina High. Individual efforts saw Barry Braverman take a. first in, Impromptu, Don Basford and Kenneth Johnson earn certificates of excellent for Interpretation of Satire and Political Oratory respectively, and Dan Dorse win the same recognition for Dramatic Sight Reading.

Initiative Passed in May's Voting state Story on election of Jerry Mack as mayor in the Oct. -22 mental issue of The Tustin News stated the the apartment moratorium initiwas mem- ative was defeated in the May 12 special election. WilThe Citizens sored initiative the Committee voting, but the moratorium was rescinded by decision of Super. R. ior Judge Stephen K.

Tamura, it who declared such a moratorum at St. is not in accordance with state WILL STUDY COLEMAN Permission for electronics experts to inspect plans, specifications and logic diagrams of the Coleman vote tally machine at its Santa Ana plant Wednesday, Oct. 28, was tentatively granted at Tuesday's press conference held by County Clerk William St John: The machine will tally all county voter ballots which will have been marked Nov. 3 by a fluorescent ink by each voter. William Jacobson, 11582 Suburnas' Way, Tustin, one of the management level of Autonetics, asking some technical questions about the machine for The Tustin News, received permission for himself and other electronics industry executives and engineers to look at the details at the Coleman plant at 2 p.m.

Wednesday. James P. Kadin, of Coleman, confirmed the time and place. Jacobson's series of questions, most of which he felt could not be answered to his satisfaction by the Coleman spokesmen, of came at the press conference. This was in response to a newsletter and release from Tustin's State Senate candidate John Schmitz and his manager Dick Murphy, which asked the electronic vote tabulators might be subject to gimmicks.

Kadin said, "'The criticism is completely unfounded." The company has, in refutation. put up a $10.000 bond as security that the machine cannot be tampered with and be made to switch votes, he said. The spokesman maintained the machine has undergone a series of tests run by Sigma Corporation (Los Altos) tests far more vigorous than any to which will be put by the elections. The tests, under state, auspices, were. 99.999 per cent correct, Kadin explained.

Asked by Jacobson about the possibility of error and recourse by the citizens, Kadin replied that any citizen can ask for recount. However, any manual recount must be by court order. If the machine is right, Kadin explained, the bond will be refunded; if wrong, Coleman will pick up the cost of the recount. Jacobson asked County Clerk St John if use of the tabulator will save $150,000 per year, received an affirmative reply. He then asked what was the recount cost for Kern Countywhich by a bond issue vote rejected use of the machine.

Kadin's reply was that there was no cost, the company having agreed to pay the bill, though the county, insisted on paying PROPOSITION VIEWS Asked by Jacobson if the ballots" are identified by precinct in the machine's count, Coleman's representatives replied the negative. argued ballot can be identified by pre- ZI 12 BUREAU INHOS NIJIVE WHOVE NOS 140 CARPENTER ASSN. 40 OF FARM 3 908 Bob Ray James Paul CAL. STATE CAL. A 2 3 4 NY 6 7 8 NY 9 LO 11 2 12 13 14 15 16 17 NY (Editor's Note: Schmitz Yes on A and are qualified in story elsewhere this edition.

Battin was not available by press time- Carpenter's No on 14, 15, 16, 17 partly "that amendments put beyond legislature those things traditionally within its scope Dash indicates "no comment" or no position, but each candidate declares willingness to discuss each proposition individually with inquirers.) dividually, though they are gathered together by precinct, spokesmen said. "Will it be possible to have ballot watchers?" Jacobson asked. The answer was that there can be such watchers, but they must be official election workers. Jacobson, who told the spokesmen he is himself a licensed it gineer, related, as an example pitfalls in tape programming, the loss of a $19 million space probe off Cape Kennedy. This, he said, was from a simple mistake in the equation factor on the tape.

Kadin then protested that a is, absolutely sure of the Coleman apparatus, or he would not putting the company up to heavy, cost of a recount should The engineer then asked John if the county is taking responsibility for the machine's accuracy, to which the county clerk replied yes. He then asked the Coleman people, "What security, is there for the integrity of the equipment itself? Do you have access seals?" The company spokesmen replied that they do not, that locks are used. "Have you no security against alterations?" Jacobson asked. The reply was that, though there will be' armed guards, there be no security provision as gards access, to the machine self. Explanation was that doors must be left open for in eration of the machine.

Jacobson responded that is not the case with electronic machines in the military. One the Coleman spokesmen contendled that it would take someone well-versed in the workings the machine to modify the em. "Couldn't it be done as simply as by clipping a wire if knew which wire to clip?" Jacobson asked him. He again pressed his question, "Then, there is no security provision direct access?" Answer was that the doors are locked when engineers are not there and armed guards 24 hours daily. "But the most complex lock in common use today can penetrated in two minutes less," Jacobson reminded him.

Retorting to a Coleman argument that the machine is self-testing, the engineer maintained that with the most electronic equipment, faults have been shown often only after many operations. Kadin stated it would probably be necessary to toss a hand grenade into the works to alter an election's outcome, but Jacob. son insisted alteration of results and programs could be much more subtle. Another Coleman representative asked how one could get the device to do so. "I'm glad to see.

you have such faith human nature I'd rather place my faith in a great number of precinct workers," declared Jacobson. Jacobson asked why the lack of success in 1 Bakersfield. Kadin responded that it was not lack of success, but the machine itself merely told of an improper. ly punched tape. The 'engineer said he was not aware re of the system until some 20 hours before, finding a pamphlet with his sample ballot.

The Coleman people contended all county newspapers informed their readers of the machine. Other company information was that the machines will be checked every half hour election night. The county announces it has invited representatives of both political parties to view the system election night. St John, at the meeting, said representatives of the parties attended a demonstration some three weeks PARENTS FOR POOL Parents of Foothill High School students who are interested in assisting District efforts to provide a swimming pool at the school are asked to meet Nov. 5 at 8 p.m.

at the home of Robert Wills, 1811 Beverly Glen Dr. For additional information call LI 4-0344. the enof put he be the St full will re: itthe op- this of of sys- you on the be or at in We hear that movie commitments of some actors this week have prevented regular showing of "The Score Keeper' at Tustin Playhouse. Have had a number of persons tell us it's a very good play but haven't yet had a chance to see it. While other Tustinites were not even dreaming of fishing the high country, Tustin Postmaster Jess Parks last week had the pleasure of an Indian Summer trout fishing junket in the Convict and Crowley Lake district.

Jess reports he tried special fly fishing at Crowley but the algae wouldn't permit. His friend, Bill O'Neill of China Lake. with whom he camped, hung up some kind of record. He caught a. 9 brown trout in Rush Creek, the fish measuring 28 inches.

Too big for the net, Bill had to grapple with the monster trout in the stream before landing him, Jess reports. The ang. lers also fished the Vining and Grant Lake areas. Mornings were cold enough to encourage them to not leave the sleeping bags untill about 9 a.m., so carly rising wasn't worthwhile. Nothing like preparing in such restful fashion; for the Christmas mail rush at Tustin P.O., is there? The G.

O. Bixlers turned up in Tustin Monday after having left town for a visit at Tucson with their daughter, Joyce. now attending the University of Ari- Other spots of commercial would be at the Lambeth Way, Dall and Holt corners on the south side of the main artery, along with frontage from Gershon to the Southern Pacific track. Eyed commercial corners on the north are the Esplanade and Dall junctures. Property owners involved, as of the last tax roll, were: Enderle, Doty, Frank E.

Jones, Rocco, Griffith, Parke Perez, Brigante, Alleman, Stevens, Krahnke Steffen, Fardin, George D. Gregg, George D. Gregg Corporation, Carnes, and Willeutt, according to the planning staff. ago..

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