Oct 14, 1995, Monfils Homicide: Winkler defends interviews Pg 2
From A-l A-l A-l Winkler Winkler was a lead investigator into Monfils' death at the James River paper mill Nov. 21, 1992. Dale Basten, Mike Him, Mike Johnson, Keith Kutska, Rey Moore and Mike Piaskowski are charged with being party to homicide homicide in Monfils' death. Winkler testified he used a "trick" to get key prosecution witness witness Brian Kellner to say what Kutska told him about a confrontation confrontation between co-workers co-workers co-workers and Monfils. At first, Kellner said Kutska told him nothing, Winkler said. Then Winkler showed him a small object and described it as a listening device that could be attached to a phone. He led Kellner to believe he could have heard conversations between Kutska and Kellner, Winkler said. After that, Kellner was shocked and worried and willing to give him a written statement and provide provide diagrams about the confrontation, confrontation, Winkler said. Winkler believed Kellner's ex-wife, ex-wife, ex-wife, Verna Irish, also had similar information. Winkler told her she could talk to him or go before a secret court hearing where she'd be interviewed interviewed by many lawyers and by a judge who could jail her for contempt contempt of court if she didn't cooperate, cooperate, Winkler said. She chose to give him a written statement, he said. What's next Brown County District Attorney John Zakowski expects defense attorneys' continued cross-examination cross-examination cross-examination of Green Bay police Sgt. Randy Winkler to take up today's scheduled half-day half-day half-day of testimony. Zakowski expects to call more witnesses Monday but said he's made no final decision decision on which ones. Winkler's techniques led mill-worker mill-worker mill-worker Pete Delvoe to tell police he didn't want Winkler to interview interview him again, Delvoe testified earlier in the trial. Winkler told him he believed Delvoe could be involved in Monfils' death, Delvoe testified. Winkler said he did tell Delvoe that. In about 250 interviews, he used interview styles ranging from a gentle approach to a more challenging challenging stance, Winkler said. An early interview with Basten was difficult because Basten was evasive, changing the subject or not answering questions, Winkler said. At one point, Winkler switched to a softer, calmer voice, touched Basten on the leg and said he knew Basten wasn't as involved as the others, Winkler said. Both the touch and giving Basten an "out" saying Basten Monfils trial Prosecutors say: On Nov. 10, 1992, Tom Monfils, a James River paper millworker, called Green Bay police to report that coworker coworker Keith Kutska planned to steal a mill extension cord. Kutska was suspended from work for five days after he refused to open his duffel bag for mill security guards alerted by police. Kutska got an audio tape copy of the police tip, identified the caller as Monfils and repeatedly played the tape for others at the mill. Kutska and others confronted Monfils at work Nov. 21, 1992, and one or more of them beat Monfils. His body was found the next day in a paper pulp vat. Defendants: Keith Kutska, Dale Basten, Mike Him, Mike Johnson, Rey Moore and Mike wasn't as involved were interview interview techniques, he said. Basten started to cry, and Winkler responded, "You didn't mean to kill Monfils, did you?" Winkler testified. Basten replied, "No, I was only up there to help Mike Johnson," Winkler said. But then Basten recovered his composure, sat up in his chair and stopped talking, Winkler said. Winkler used an accusatory style with Moore, repeatedly telling him someone had seen him in a repulperbreak room area roughly near the vat where Monfils' body turned up, Winkler at a glance Questions? Do you have questions about the Tom Monfils trial or how the court system works during a trial? Call 436-7838 436-7838 436-7838 Monday through Friday, and we'll find the answers. Piaskowski. Charge: First-degree First-degree First-degree intentional intentional homicide. All six defendants are charged with being party to that crime, a provision covering those who aid and abet the commission commission of a crime or take part in a conspiracy to commit a crime. Penalty: Life imprisonment Source: Brown County court documents said. Moore insisted he wasn't there that day but Winkler kept asking who could've seen him back there, Winkler said. Moore said, "No one could," but then dropped his head into his hands and said, "The repulpers," Winkler said. Moore.then said Kutska and others set him up, Winkler said.