tp send a mere acknowledgement of the state department's communication. Another contention <by. Alderman prove -that Carstens' motion of Nov; 6, remaining on the records without a vote, resulted in Instructions to the ordinance committee to submit a measure at the next session providing a'definite and permanent set qf rules of order tor the council. Olty Attorney Manning advised *hat the sewer motion of Nov. 6 had been disposed of when Mayor Schnaufer refused to put it to a vote'under the council's present liberal .regulations. ' •.-•'."< ' -. '