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- TBE E1ST MM BRIDGE. Conference of the Aldermanic Committee with the Bridge Directors. THE THREE MILLION APPROPRIATION. SPEECH OF HON. H. C. MURPHY. Argument Pro and Con - Hemarks hy niessrs. Dow, Campbell, Flsko, Hennessey, Hennessey, Roebllng, CammeTer, Rodney S. Church, and others. IA portion of tho following report appeared. In install - mt - nts. in our late editions of Saturday. Several typographical typographical errors, consequent upon tho haste with which the matter waB "set up," marred SBuator Murphy's Epeech. Tho subject under dcbaic Is of such vital con - ci rn to Brooklyn, that we deem It proper to publnh tho discussion upon It connected, correct ana complete. The meeting ol the Common Council Committee Committee to whom was referred the petition of the Directors Directors or tho Sast River Bridge Company for an appropriation of $3,000,000 in aid of that enterprise, was held on Sal nrday afternoon at the City Hall, in the Common Council chamber. There was a numerous attendance attendance of leading citizeus, including The Mayor, (Honorable Marlin Kalbfteisch) Ex - Mayor, (Honorable Samuel Booth) Senator Murphy, Honorable EdwardB W. FiEke, Water Commissioners Norlhup, Fowler and King, Messrs. John U. I?ank, Alexander McCuc, J. P. Hennessy, J. Carson Brevoorf, Connolly Koddy, Ex - Mayor Wood, John S. Botart, Wm. Marshall, Anthony F. Camnbell, Seymour Seymour L. IliiBtcd, Wm. II. Furey, John E. Canimeyer, James Harper, Hugh McLauchlin, 4th Ward; n. McLaughlin, McLaughlin, 2d Ward ; Robert l'urcy (Street Com.), A. W. Benson, Wm. C. Itushmore, Isaac Badcau, Aldermen Aldermen Bergen, Fisher, McGroarty, O'Brien, Whiting, Daniels, Thorne, Elliott, Andrew W. Green, Park Comptroller ; W. C. Dewilt, Jacob Westcrvelt, Henry naiteun, C. C. Martiu, Engineer J. A. Roobliug. The room was adorned with views aud Dlans of the proposed structure, one of which was about tlfteen feet, long, and three others of different sizes, showing in detail the plan of the proposed bridge, as drawn by Mr. Rcebling, the engineer. The largest plan showed the btigbt ol the bridge above tho vessels in the river, and tbe others, exhibited the details of the construction of the edifice. The meeting was called to order about .half - post one o'clock, when Alderman Whitney, chairman of tho committee, read the petition presented to the Common Conucil, asking for a subsidy of $3,000,000 in aid of the bridge, which was reported in the Eagle at the time of the presen - ta'lon Mr. J. W. Dow then addressed the Committee at soinelcnslh, prcstnthig the plan heretofore discussed in the Eagle, of a series of four bridges, built on lour piers each, and making four lines of streets and warehouses, warehouses, extending from New York to Brooklyn. He claimed that the adoption of this plan would not cost the city one cent, the rent of warehouses paying the cost, and that it would work to the advantage of the harbor harbor by offering better facilities for dt ekngc and wharfage, wharfage, whilo as he asserted, the bridee was liable at any time to Bnan and hurl its freight into the river. Mr, Dow said he was very sorry to have to oppose a scheme brought forward by Mr. Murphv and others whom he so hlgnly respected ; but no one who had crossed the Ea6t river daily and watched the growth ot population, eoald doubt that something more than a mere bridge was meded to meet ibo wants of Brooklvn. His plan had been studiously kept ont " of tho Bir.oklyu papers, which were afraid to discuss it lest it should withdraw support from the bridge project. project. Mr. Dow presented a model Bhowing his sixteen sixteen piers, and explained how the draw bridges between between them were lo be worked. He waB confident that, bridge or no bridge, tbe demands of commerce would ultimately compel us to convert tho East River into docks as his scheme proposed. Mr. L. I). Northup and Air. Rodney Church made a few remarks, af t - r which Mr. Dow roBe again and usk - ed whether tho 8,000,000 was to cover the entire cost or the bridge, or only the portion from shore to Bhore. Hon. neury C. Murphy then rose and spoke as follows follows : Gentlemen of the Committee: I occupy, as you well understand, tbe position of President of the Bridge Company, not by any Beckint; of my own, but by tne request of tbe gentlemen named ns Directors of it, in the act of incorporation. And I suppose it is therefore therefore proper for me to answer the question proptned by Mr. Dow. Belorc doing so I wish to reclp - rtcate hero what that gentleman has expressed, expressed, my very high appreciation of the character ol Mr. Dow. I bavo known him for a eiy long period, as he has said, almost too long to mention, it may be forty years, sir, and I have always found bim to be an honorable, truthful man ; and I know he would not come hi re lo advocate any plan uuitKD ut:nuii;ji:ij u - .utrvu ill lis L'ltioicj, IIUEWUUO, at the same time I accord to him that character aud that feeling in the nutter, I must claim for myself, and for the gentlemen with whom lam associated the same purity of motive and the same honor. Tois cOmpany,Sli, present themselviB before yon becanstiby the act ol mcoporation the city of Brooklyn was au - Ihoiizi d to lend its aid to this enterprise, ami becatt - e we believe it is only by the city of Brooklyn takiif pnrt in it that we cun rcasorably expect tho success which it deserves, and within a reasonable umo. But wo do so flinily, with the conviction, Sir, thai Ibis Bridge if bniltwili be of untold value to tho inlercslsof tneclly of Brooulyn and to its prop - rty, enhancing its means of enterprise and enhancing the value of lis taxable estates. We do not present' it to the city. Sir. merely as an investment of capital Not at all. We leave that out of view eutirelv, and we present it to the city of Brooklyn as the thing which of all olberB is most necessary for its continued prosperity prosperity and increase. This Btidge, I will now sav. Sir, to answer tho question question or the gentleman, when complete will costabnut eight millions of dollars, and in that estimate I tell the gentleman that we include Ihe entire expense of the Bridge from end to end rrom Sands street, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, to Ihe City Hall, Netv York. Mr. Dow Mr. Roebling estimates higher. In his report he said from shore to shore. Mr. Murphy hero introduced Mr. Rocbltng,who slated that his entire estimate for the bridge, not including the real estate, was between six and seven millions of dollars, and the estimate of real estate would brln it up to about eight millions. Mr. Dow rose to speak again, but Mr. Murphy claimed that ho had Ihe door, and said - I repeat that the entire cost of the bridge, aud all connected connected with it, including land damages, arter the most carefnl estimation on the part of Mr. Rooming, the Engineer, and or gentlemen selected for estimating tbe value of tho laud and buildings, is about cign I millions of dollars, and no more. Mr. Roeblins's calculation of the t xpei.so ol the masonry and of the iron work of the bridge from one termination to the other, was, as ho states, between six and seven millions of dollars ; and the estimate of I be gentlemen selected for tho purpose of valuing the land was between one and a half and one and three - quarter million Uollare,thua making tho amount which I have already stated, of eight millions. That includes the purchase of tbe land and everything possible that we know of, or could imagine would enter enter into tbe ;ost of the Bridge. The gentleman, therefore, therefore, may dismiss from his mind that which appears to exciw him somewhat, that wo came here for the puiposo of flecciviup ,be people and runnin" the ci'.y into an expense of 15 oris midlona of do lars. Now m retard to these estimates, I may B'ly it although Mr. Roehlmg is present, th.it they could not have been made by a more competent man. He is tbe eneineer who constructed tho Niagara Suspension Suspension Bridge and the Suspension Bridge nrros the Ohio liiver at Cincinnati, besides others not quito so large, but still important bridges of the kind. He has but lccetitly completed the bridire across the Ohio, which in length is about three quarters of what this will be, bo that ho haii a practical knowledge within hims - lf of exactly whut this Endue must. cbt. He knows what enters into tin construction ot it; he knows the cost ol the inati - riuU; he knows the prices of labor of every dis - criptior, as well astiuy other man in the cotiotry, and on bis blub reputation as an Engineer, n reputation co - cxtiucive with Europe aB wollas witn this ciuutry, he tclltus that it will cost bcl ween six and bovcu millions millions of dollars and no nior, - - . In regard lo the valuation valuation of ihe land, we had the lund surveyed, through which this Bridge will run, by persons selected here and ill New York who wi re a'cqtriinted wilh the value of property, for the onrpose of estl muting lot by lot,and building hy building; und their detailed estimate and calculation of this part of the expense expense is between I andl and tbree - qu.irtcrmiHini. Now I assume that Ihe expense oftbis work will not exceed exceed 8 millions, for the reason that these calculations have been bated on tne prices of labor and materials as they stand to - day, when every indication of the Umo shows that we may expect deduction in both tho value of material end labur. So that most iikely the expense of constructing this Bridge will bo less than the estimate or eight millions which we have as - mmeo on the bais of these calculations. And what do we ask or the City or Brooklyn 1 We ask her to subscribe, the amount of three millions or a little more than one third of theVbolc cost - the interest of which, if it should fail on the taxable nrop - erty of the city to pay. would be but. one mill and a half per cent, on tlie Collir. It would amount, at seven per cent, interest, to the sum of two handled and ttn thousand dollars a year, so that an increase or ihe taxable properly of this city to the amount of se ven millions of oollarB, at tho present rate of taxation, taxation, would aive you tbe f 310,000 a year. Now, this would be a remuneration to the public fur this su'i - scriptii n. even tr they uid not. receive a dollar by way ol interest on the capital from the investment itself I think there is uo one within the sound of my voice, but bchevcB il this bridge be built, as it is projected, projected, with r.lt the advantages which mnst accrue to us Irom it, thaltbe ri - e or taxable property, Instead of being seven, would be seventy millionB in less than five - years. Nov - , In corsidering this question there are two points about which those who hear mc may wish to have something said. In the first place, as to the necessity necessity for the bridge, or tbe advantages of the btidge, which it Is likely lo produce its result on taxable properly ; and iq ihe second place, as to the f irm of the bridge, or tbe particular plan which we propose to adopt: Now, Sir, I hold this proposition to be indisputably true, that the increase of population in Brooklyn is likely to progress nt n grealer rate lhan that or Manhattan Manhattan Island itself, and as compared with New York, that population is likely to increase in agreater ratio than the population on one side ot the Thames in London, or on ono side of the Seine in Paris is likely to increase compared with the other portion of London or Paris. In other words, from the peculiar location aud relations of New York und Brooklyn, the ultimate population of this muJropolis umsl preponderate on the Brooklyn side that i9.tr we make the physical connection which we seek lo make by the bridge. lr we can once nnite Brooklyn and Now York, so teat we have entire sarety in crossing, and the menns of transportation at al) times, then the population population on this side of the river must from the very physical condition of these two places give Brooklyn the advantage, (applause). Now there aie two circumstances which militate aga - nst the population going to the other side of the North river, as intimated by ray friend, Mr. Dow. The North river cannot be spanned by a bridge. You w ill find, and Mr. Rv ebling will convince vou on that point, that the limits of a suspension bridge are such lhat it cannot be thrown over the North river, and therefore the North river must ever form an impediment against the going out to any very great or Eciioua extent of population on the opposite opposite side of that mer. New York, therefore, on the west side is hemmed in, is stunted in her growth for we may consider all this locality as a part of New York. There is another circamBtance, and that iB, that Jersey is ft foreign jurisdiction it is another another State. That will alwavs have an effect to prevent prevent the population from going freely over to theother side of tlie river. If Brooklyn and New York be united the free tendency and natural law is for population population to come over here. Brooulyn wraps around New York on two sides, for almost one - mini of it. spreading out like a fan around it, nnd presenting a capucity lor receiving Ihe population of N. Y.. which is almost unlimited. Ol. its north side New York musl extend only in a long narrow Hue, and in order to get dwellings you have to increase yonr distance "... ficomel"pl proportion as compared l' r,01113';1 - Alorc than - that. You can get mill ous in Brooklyn wtlhtn the limits of the same distance as Harlem and Spuytenduyle! Creek, mote than yon car, get io New York, in the same distance distance from tbe Battery or City Hall Well, irall this pomihvion i's to nowhere, as ltmn't. what is to be be the effect on Brooklyn real estate? estate? I necel not indulge in any fancy sketch in rclerence to this. Everybody sees that the demand must immentely increase lor our real estate aud for our buildings. Is this Bridge - , then, n necessity? Until veu have perfect communication between Brooklyn und New York you cannot expi cl to have this population population come over here, us it should and would iu caso there was a physical conne ction. There are tho isauds ol people who will not come to Brooklyn because because they nro impeded, perhaps for half an hour or an hour in their business, or interrupted interrupted in their recreation or their pleasure by delay iu crossing the rivr - r. Thousands and thousands' thousands' again will not come here because they apprehend dnrgcr In the ferry boats from collision with tho vessels vessels passing constantly up and" down the Ifiver. Let Finnic one of onr ferry boats crowded with 1,500 or 2,000 paESongcrs be sunk. That may happen any day, and it is only bv Goo's providence that it has not happened before. Let one such fearful catastrophe happen to - day, and your Brooklyn prrp ' er'y is hardly worth that (snapping his Angers). (Ap pi inse). Wo must havo foresight and prudence. We mact prepare against any possible contingency contingency by which that can happen, and we can only do it by having a permanent Bridge. Then if such tt calamity do occur, if the Bridge exist tho people will say, we have the means of getting to and from Brooklyn without the liability to such an accident. How are we going lo get such a bridge by this plant That ib the question you arc all thinking or. Can wo get snch a budge by any q,ther plan? I did not know any other plan would be here, and I am not here tor the. purpose of talking about any other plan which may be suggested in opposition to the oue which we present. We have selected this plau because because we thought it the best. It is nobody's plan, but tho suggestion of scientific men. There is no interest iu tbis plan to be Bubserved by its adoption. But we conld not adopt a plan like that (pointing to Mr. Dow's model) because because it is subject to ihe fatal objection that it obstructs the navigation of tho East River. No brldee can be built unless it Bhall obviate all objections objections of that kind. This plan presented by my ftl' - ud, Mr. Dow, clearly shuts up and obstructs the navigation of the river. Here as he layB it down are four Bridges obstructing veese - ls Beekit - t; passage through the river. Beili:r lar would H be for ns to have a single Rndero wtt.h piers and draws which could be opened for the purpose of letting vossels through, than to have i tits concatenation of Bridges which is ef - eclually to obstruct and prevent all navigation of the East River. Why wo have been talking about briages for fl'ty years and the objection as each individual individual scheme came up was, you cannot build one of ecfllcient span to obviate tbe objection on the score of navigation. Fifty years ago it was a tatal objection to building a bridge across the river that it would impede navigation. To - day instead of one or two we count by scores and hundreds, tho vcsbcIs going through the East River. How much more is the objection increased ? Where is the gentleman toget his power, in State Legislation, Legislation, or from the United Slates Government, who dtmsndB of us to obstruct and shut up the finest waUr course in the world, as the East river Is? Can he suppose with alibis plausibility and eloquence, or witn any other means he may employ, that he can induce reasonable men to consent, any reasonable body ol reasonable legislators to permit him to shut np the paage of the East River ? If we' are to stay till we ecr relief by his plan, till some such action be baa by this State, and by the federal authorities, It will be after he and I, and our childron shall have rotted in onr graves. But this measure we propose Is an immediate one. It gives us present rel ef aud present benefit. If that is practicable, if it can be carried out, let them go and try it, TbH meanwhile will be no particular injury to the city of Brooklyn, if it hereulter be entirely laid aside. We shall have had the benefit of it in tbemeantime,worth more than ten tin.es tbe cost of it. We propose this bridge because it is that, on which flclc - ntiltc men agree aB the most practicable way of crossing tno river, observing the condition of. leaving tbe river freo from obstruction and the navigation perfectly clew. We propose no new thing. Just what has been built, and what this gentleman has built, and which Is a per feet success. There are other plane; there has been Ihe plan of tunneling the river. I have nothing to say particularly about that, except tbatit is much more expensive than this; that it is Impracticable for carriages if not for foot passengers, as the grade will bo at kast ten leal in a hundred in passing the boltoai of the river. The pneumatic plan has also been Eroposed to run a lube at the bottom of the river, and low passengers through. That may possibly elo for pasicngcrs, but we can easily see tbat it would not do lor carriages and conveyances of different kinds. There does not fcim to be anything that will meet all tho requirements as to the physical physical connection aud leave the river unobstructed, unobstructed, except tbis suspension bridge, of adequate dimensions to carry over toe vehicles, passengers passengers and cars (hat may be necessary. This plan, which will be explained more fully hy Mr. Roebling, embraces these three different leatnres: In the first place it proposes ample footways for foot, passengers. It proposes two double carriage ways going and returning. And It proposes two tracks for cars to be - moved by stationary power on trackways about thirteen thirteen or fourteen feet euch. Passengers will then be carried from Sands street, Brooklyn, to the City Hall, N. Y., by ttatiouary power in less than live minutes, saving ihem almost a half mile on either side of the River in carnage or walking, and taking the people of Brooklyn to where tbey have not been aole t j get by any dirccl co; - . eyaiice to Broadway, N. Y. You tliHB tipen all the rpper part ol New York and the western part of it, west of Broadway, to Brooklyn. You thus create an entirely new Held for Brooklyn. A set of people, peisons engaged in these localities of New Yoik, who have never hitbertn come to Broofilyp to live, will now hove every inducement to come; yott empty as it were that great, city into this, the business mt - ii of that city into Brooklyn for residence, I do not suuoose of course tbat the Bridge is goin" to give Brnokrjn ali the advantages and conveniences Niw York possesses. Hut give us the Bridge, and then we will have all those local institutions which will attach these men here and wilt increaee the character of our buildings and public institutions; nnd we will not be as now, in consequence of tne impediment between ns and New York, wo are ct.nsioered a mere suburb, us in fact we are. Now I have spoken very cursorily about this matter, and merely lor the purpose of getting something before the Committee and this respectable audience in reference reference to tbe matter. Mr. Itoebling is here, sod will be willing lo give any ndoitional information tbat may be required. Mr. He nnessey thought tho plan of Mr. Dow was impossible impossible bcctiUre the consent of the Federal or Stat - ; govtrnmert could not. be obtained, therefore he thought that plan was outof the question. Mr. Dow aruued in favnr of bis plan ; he claimed that the community were fearful of a suspension hrid"e and wanted a i - oiid structure such as ho propose"). Then - was uo fear of getting the consent of the State nna Federal governments il Ihe people of Brooklyn, Brooklyn, exjirestc) themselves in favor ol it. He expressed expressed his opinion that nis plan wonld yet be adopted. Sheriff Csnipbeli How do you propose to build il ? Mr. Dow By private capital, ana tho rent of the ware - houses will pay us. Mr. Campbell Wltcio will tbis properly pay tax - Mr. Dow To the State of New York. Mr. Fitke said ho believed in scientiQc men. Sixteen Sixteen years since a committee was unpointed to lay out the - sbore line of Brooklyn. Prof. Bicho was one of them. Soloogogo as that a system of basins, such as those propostd by Mr. Dow, was talked of. lie (Mr. F.) asked Pror. Bacbe about Ihe basins, and he was satisfied by him tmit the adoption of that plan would destroy (lie harbor of New York. If that plan were practicable he ahonld like to see it adopted, but us it was. not praclicahle, he would sav "for God's sake, give us the bridge." Three millions of dollars tv, - i nothing to tho elty in view of the immense advant ages wntcn would accrue irom Its erection. Mr. Roebling being called nnoD, explained at some length the plan ot the proposed bridge as heretofore publishi din the Eaole. He claimed lhat tbu bridge when completed would be capable of passing eighty millions of people every year, aud illustrated his argument argument by the diagrams on exhibition. Mr. Hennessey wanted to know what would be the chances lor wanting over the briiige on awindy day? Mr. Roeblin? said that on Elormy days but few people would like to cross over the bridge, aa from its xposed situation it would be very uncomfortable to walk ovkt it during a storm. Sheriff Campbell wanted to know if under tho worst weather passengers could cross over the bridge on foot without danger. Mr. Roebling replied that ol course there wa3 no danger. Tho great danger to suspension bridges was from high wind. A suspension bridge buile here on the old plan would not be sale for twenty - four hours, but be was satisfied that the proposed bridge would be aB safe, under the most sevore Btorm, aa any building building iu New - York or Brooklyn. Aid. Bergen wanted to know if Mr. Roobling was satisfied that they could get a good foundation lor tbe supporting piers of the bridge on both alaes of the river. Mr. Roebling said he considered tbe foundation on the Brooklyn side as quito favorable, bnt not so mueh so on tbe New Ycik side. There It wonld be a costly matter to sink deep enough toget a foundation. They would probably bavo to g"o sixty feet below the water line in New Y'ork, nnd about lhirty feet in Brooklyn. Mr. Hennessey How long will it take to complete the bridge - ? ' r Mr. Roebling With no want of money, I conBider we can finish ihe linage in five years. Mr. Hennessey Supposing the city pave the three millions, how soon alter that could the bridge be started ? Mr. Roebling I have no hesitation in saying that I believe that the momeiit. the btidgu is started the value of properly in this city will inert - use ir pr. - r cent. Mr. John E, Otimmiyer wanted to know w - ielln - r it would he beneficial to the poor mau that real estate should Increase iu value. Ho considered that the city vi euriiah in deh now, without going b,t"i any more debt. What would the bonds of the city be worth If this sort t f thing were to be carried on. Look at the Central Patk, which cost so much. They allowed tho rich men to drive through it on Sunday but denied the poor man the piivll. - ge or going on the ska - lug pond. (Applause iu the. lobby.) Iu the same mamir there were a number of boulevards &c, proposed for the n?e nf tbe rich at the expense of the poor. (Cheers.) Why, if matters wet.t on this way, the bonds of Biooklyn would soon be worih about ns much as Confederate bonds are. Mr. Rodney S. Cburch claimed that the bridge was ill effect a benefit to New Y'ork more thau to Brooklyn, Brooklyn, nnd he wanted to know why the City of New York was not called up'U to subscribe a portion of the money as wel as Brooklyn. He claimed that the Company Company bau no right to ask for money from the city. If i ot - jiroj - - cL was to oe as proutaoie us it was claimed H would be, why could not, the stock he taken up hy private subscription? Ho claimed that tti'j wholo thing was a speculation to swindle the City of Brooklyn Brooklyn out of three millions of dollars, because hy the terms of the act, if the cities or New York and Brooklyn Brooklyn shonld ever deem it necessary to take the bridge and make it a free bridge, as it would most assuredly be, the stockholders were to be paid 33;i per cent, over the entire cost of tbe bridge. Mr. John F. Hennessey hoped the city would not plice implicit confidence on the statements made by Mr. Chinch, for hiB speech was a stereotyped one. When When it proposed to introduce water into the city, Mr. Church made a similar speech, hut tho water wis introduced, introduced, and what was the cost to the incalculable benefit v. iiich was derived from its establishment. Sheriff Campbell Fald he wus in favor of the building of a bridge cither by private stibsctipiion or hy the cliy, no matter whether it cost eight millions of dollars dollars or twelve - millions, because be coiisidiredit a matter matter ol vital importance tu the growth and proioert'.y of the city, and he considered that, the Common Council Council would he doing a wise thing by leruiug the credit or the city to the company to the extent of three or cvnn five millions cl dollars. Mr. Canimeyer I am iu favor ol building (he brldgo as much as the gentle - man is, bnt I am in favor of having having it built hy private subscription, and I am not in favor cf taxing the poor man for it. Mr. Church - So am I. I will subscribe J1000 to the stock. Mr. McCue We will put you down for that amount. Mr. Campbell I am opposed to all this sort of talk about the poor man in this connection. Every in iu knows that whatever beiicllts the city beiieilta the poor man as well as the rich man. Mr. Cburch We are to have an elcclien soon. Let lis put up a scperute ticket al tbat election with bridge or no biltlge, loan or no loau, and see how the people people of Biooklyn will vote on it. 2s this meeting a proper proper representation of the ueople of the City of Brooklyn Brooklyn ? I claim that there should be some betier means of getting at the sentiment of the people in this matter, matter, adopted, before tbe Board of Aldermen take the responsibility of granting this loan. Mr. Cammeycr 1 think tbis is tho proper time to take on expression of ilia public voico on this matter, and il the meeting had been called nt tho usual hour thi re would have been a large attendance. Mr. Campbell I don't understand tuat the Committee Committee has called this meeting for the purpose of being guided as lo what course of policy they Bhou'd follow in this matter. They simply want to hear the views of the people on this subject. I regret for one that the Committee of the Common Council have thought proper proper to call such a meeting as this. I have lived in Brooklyn for thirty years, and I never yet saw a public Invct - ing called for a public improvement at which the improvement was not voted down. Yon can get a public meeting to vole anything down. Ir the matter was submitted to the people or Brooklyn to morrow thero wonld be people enonsb found to defeat it. I regret that some persons with capital enongh were not found to go on and build the bridge, for I have not a doubt, that after it was once opened the city would be glad to purchase It at any price. Mr. Church The cry has been for thirty years, when any money was wanted lor these things, that property would bo increased so much in value that taxation wonld be reduced, but insteail of that we find t ixea going up all the time. When Prospect Park was go Fngup that was the ciy, but still tho taxes go uphUher and higher. Mr. Wm. C. De Witt remark?d tbat thero were two arguments advanced by the venerable and wealthy gentleman gentleman on his letl, (Mr. Caunncyer) which hefelt'it incumbent incumbent on him to imwer. Trie gentleman said that tho advancing or the proposed three millions of dollars dollars would degrade the sureties of tho city, but he (Mr. D ) old not propose to spend time upon that point, because in tne next breath be admitB it would increase the taxable property of the city tweuty - fiyo percent. Mr. Cammeycr said he eupposed the spcBker referred to him, ho would ask if it would be bcneOcial to the poor man to bavo the value o) property rajsed in BrookKh. Mr. De Wilt I will ask tho gentleman Iftbeerec - titn of this brioge will raise the value of property. Mr. CitmnieyiT I suppose it will, Sir. Mr. De Wilt Then if an advance of three millions of dollars will advance the value ofthe large amount of property in this city, that I contend is a proper answer lo tho proposition tbat ihe issuing or the loan will de - graoe the credit of the CHy of Brooklyn, but I will pass thai and go on to the argument that this bridge would bo detrimental to the lnicieBts of the poor mm. Tho argument is old. It wasmade against '.he steam engine nnd against every other invention for saving numau labor. ' Now let us go back a few years. Was the 1. - boring man any better off in the City of Brooklyn when properly was not worlb ono - tontU of what it is to - day than bn In to - dnt ? Does it follow that because nro - pertyinono street goes up, tbe poor man's cottage goeB any higher? On the contrary, do not all these improvements Inure to the benefit of tbe poor man by giving bim employment? The speaker then went on to allude to tho improvements improvements iu Paris mado by the Emperor Napoleon tho Pacific Railroad, and other great public Improvements, Improvements, Bhowing that by them all classes of tho community community were benefitted. In conclusion ho slid th directors of the present company were above suspicion, suspicion, and it would bo a lamentable exhibition of tho wtrnt of public spirit if tbey were not supported by all classes, rich amd poor alike, corporate bodies and individuals. individuals. Mr. Nortlinp held that the construction of the biidge wonld rednce taxation and bo a priceless boon to tb poor man. What was tho reason the thousunds of vacant lota in tho city were not occupied by tbe poor men to - day. Here wo have thousands upon thousands of vacant lots whlcn wnulei be built up as homes for the wonting wonting men, if there were only mreisbed traveling accommodations accommodations by which they could get to their labor in winter. He had uo donbt whatever that within five years after the completion of the bridge, the taxable taxable property of Brook yn wonld bo increaBed fifty millions of dollars. He was opposed to the matter going to a vote nf the people because it would be vteei down. When the proposition to erect the Water Works wnspnt before the people, they voted it down several times. After some remarks by Mr. Beers the meeting adjourned. adjourned. DIES. CoTTEnKLT, On Monday morning itb. 17lh, 1801, Er - WAi - .u toiTEKKLi,, aged 36 yers. The r.eerjda and relatives of the family are Invited to Bitcnd his funeril fron his late residence, 83 Adams 6f, Brooklyn, on Wednesday nest at2KP. M. '1 ho remains will be taken to Grecnwoo 1. DENiTiioHNE' - On Sunday Feb. ICtli, son of Peter and MBry Denltnorne, aged I year 8n.onth3 and 16 days. The relatives and frlenls of th; family are renpeotfully Invited to attend his funeral on&Tuesdav.atS o'clock, f r: m ihe residence of his parents, cor. of Fifth ave. and Bolttc tt. Hall In Brocklyn, on Monday morning Feb. 17th, Francis M. Hall. Relatives an 1 friends are invited to attend his funeral on Wednesdny Feb. 19th, at2 o'clock I'. M from his late residence, 210 Schotmerhorn st. Howaud At Columbia, Texts, Jan. 30th, 1803, MrB MaktE. HowAan. daush'er of the la'o John anl Elizs E. l iower, lormerly of Brooklyn, N. Y. RonwBLL Died Fr - b. 16th, aged 13 months and9 days, Walter Hodwell Soott, sen of Thomas and Caroline fecoit. The funeral services wPl beheld on Tuesday, Feb. ISth, at 2 P. M., atUU Court St. WniGnT On Sunday morning Feb. 15th, Mr. Job Weight, in the 77th vcar of his age. The relatives and friends or the fitniiiy arc respect fully luvltcdto at'end the funeral services oa Tuesday afternoon afternoon at 2 o'clock, from his Hie residence In Dean St., 11th house Eoulheast of Grand ave. JtiOST AH1 POlitilt. 10ST - S5 RBWAKD - ON SATUKDAY, Jk Jeb. lfi. a black aud tn dotr; answers to th - i name ot Prince; had on a plated collar; theflider will receive tbe ahoverewaid by leaving the dog at 161 Waghtiit3U st f OST A HEAKT - SHAPED BREAST - SH pin surrounded by holr. The Under will greatly ofitige. the ,wner by leaving it at 03 Columbia 5t. IjiOUND - OK FKfDAY EVEXING, IS IIenr st. near Hevmen. a Pocket Book oontainlair a snmof money. Apply at 109 Clinton tt, after 2 P.M. or be foretl A. M. S0&TAiARGE BTJaCK NEWFfJrjNXT - lacd do In th - nultrlioorhoo J of DeKalti and Olas - fon aves , on the r.Uhtof th - 'ied.or mornlug ofthe 3rd of February. The Under will be liberally rewarded by iui;u i i:iii niio to uttpt. oa.?. ru n .tt. ejtasjou kvo , near Van Buren et. fel7 St" L" OST - S10 KEWAKD - A BLACK AND white spaniel dog; left hlu - 1 leg swings; answers to ti e name of Jack; whoever viu return nlm to No, s7 South Oxford st. will receive tho above reward. icnct LOST 5 KtWAliD - ABOUT 12 TH cr lath test., a yeltow slut; cropped oars; shoi - t tall; medium Ftze. Any person returning hlui to W. E. DUNCAN, (S Butlerst., will receive the above reward. w; t thl' - Uh cA JUhUAl yiD itStt'lUUe , between 3 and 4 o'cioek - , in going fi - oai Kent ave. throur - h DeKalb to Smdlord St., a Mlak fur collar. A1 smtnblp rewaro will h - i glvca by lei - dug tt or, Mrs, liLA'ICHtOKD'3. Kctt ave., fotr doors sduth of WI1 - louebby. FOUND StXJSDAY A FUR6IPE which the owner can have by addressing W. W., Eagle ollici - . IfOVBV - OS SimjjAY evenikgHa Brown IIoiso on tne Coney Island Uoid. The owner can have him bv paving csnenses aud proving property. Inquire of W. H'. PKIOIT. on the Coney Isiai ri Tiesil. or Webster ave. Grcr - nneM.L.I. I" OST - BETW1SEN 28 MONROE PLACE J, and City nail a purof aoublalou! - spectacles, In Scotcu plaid esse. The Under will receive l rewarel, hy rctuiLiug 'hem to 38 Monroe Ploco. fih fiT REWARD STRAYED OR STOlTEN on Saturday cveclug, l - 'ch. 811;, tin 01d;Wnlte l'ooole Slut with long - ara. the above reward will be given if sheis left atn Plcrrepoutst. felSSt HORSES AND CABKMKES. FOR SALE A DAKK UKOWK HORSE, ItM nands lde - li; seven yeitr oic; sound tiudkn.d iu sll liiiroett; u rast traveler, tree and stylish driver; prlc !); also, a top road waaon an 1 harness, platform spring feed wagon and several low prleed work horse?, at vyj T.llsryst fein it FOR SALE - 7 HOUSES JUfn? FROM Ibo countty; suitable firle;d, grocery, butcher's pjrss or farmer's waeoes. or carts; ul:oavery s'j'llh sorrel forse, liar.ds htih; makes a very handsome coupe horse from $100 to $i00. lt'O Corcord st. fell 3t' HOUSED FOK SAIiK. FOR SALE 8,750 IN ELLIOT r Place. Urooklyi - , a three - st'iry llrtck hctidc; alt the n provementf ; in perfect older: lot 103 'eot deep; house IP It ilna88. Address!'. A. M., Eairle office. FOR eALE - ONQUINCY"ST7A"TW - 0 Story aim basement frame Iious (ailed i i with brick) Willi two fun tots. 50 tt.de, n bt 101). For partiou - lurs apply at tl Water St.. N Y, feliijf fOR SAEE - ONEIFTH AVENUE, NEAR JL I'rosr cot l'urk, a beautiful residence, combining city and country; larsre hon? - : replete with every uiodaru iniprovem - nt; line biltla - d room, bowling alley and large new stable, arrt :w lots laid outlo Ia.rn, garden and orchard, with over too ofthe choicest fruit trees; no better better chance lor luvetttnent of capital can he found, as the lots alone a worth ire price, asked, and oyer sixty thousand thousand dollais have been spent In improvements; will bo divided to sutt purobasors; price, moderate; terms easy. Apply to D.& SI. (JUAUXcy, 153 Montanue street noar Co itrt St. renet TjjlOK SALE ON POKTLAJSO AVE. JL near Latayette, li - story, brown ftoue front, dwelling, dwelling, 22x1.1, lot 100; every Improvement; heater in cellar; 2 vater closets; hot und cold water on eveiy floor; p is - session Arrll 1st. If desired, nor cards or admission un - ply to WYCKOFF & LITTLE, 151 Montague e near Ceurt, fil7:i5 TTOR SALE ON FORT GREENE PLACE! JL' bet.i - ultonawl OeKalb aves, a 3 - story, orown stone Iront dwtllh - g.i'JxlO: exteiiei - m IttxiO. lot 10x100; all improvements improvements and in splendid ordsr. rermlts only or Wr - CKOFF & LITTLB, 151 Montague st. fell at ITiOR SALE 4 OE THOSE BUlLiDINGS JL' lctt or Butlerst , bt.IIoyc uud Smith - ts; cellars dug, wads laid: will he closed off at tSOO oach, 50 per cent, can remain on bond" and mortgt?e lfdesiroi). In - qulre of ISAAC 11 ALL, 124 Uroa I st , N. Y. f jll w KM3RSA1 E - THE TWO sND A HALF JL stel'j - Knsllsh baeenieo; brick home, No.Oi Cleriaoat avenue; the bouso is 711 feet deep, with three rooms on tlicilrs. Iloor; II. is hen ted by Ellis's hot water atipiratus; has a burglar alarm attached, and a greenhouse connected; connected; it cubt'ifi.s all modern improvements, ami is In flrit rate order; line garden nnd plenty of - frintj lot ft) e 125. Apply to u. & M. CirAiraCKl'.ljIontaiiue st, firmer Pot Oilier. fi - lTiit TRIOR SALE - PRufcPEOr PaKK. PliuP - il? EUTY. Asrrull house, barn, and Slots on Butldr s., 200 toot from Wio - hing'onavc. l'rlca fui.COO. A Is - hum amis lots on Pica; and 1 aljainlag lols ou Atlantic ave. Lummy tmitunn 12 ncrjs, within 7 mlle3"or Brooklyn CitvllHl. Price flO 5ii0, Apply to Y. ANSLEY. P Willouhbyst, Brooklyn, or I?.. I. AIOLI.OY.21H Fulton sr.. N. Y. TL - tOIl fcALE - ON LAKAYETX)!! AVE,, 3 - .5. stoiy. bitstiaeut ttr.d tub - cellar bnck honsc;tlt rooms; nil Improvements ami in geodorde - ; wills tr - s - i - oen. For price, leilt s, &c, apply to WYCKOFF & LIT - T I. K . J 5 ' t'lont u g tms t . , near C .'lire. rel 7 3t "O OH 8 ALE - ASTORY AND ATTlO iL brick hssetnent nnd suu - c'. - ll - ii - IVaioo hotis , tilled in with brick. In the best paic of Brooklyn; eontjlti3 12 rooms aim cxt - mion to baiein - iiit ttn) pjrlor llo ir ; in perh - cl order ihrouehiiue. witn all the m - de. - n im., - ove - i. t - nl3. I' titilrt - or ihe pren,ispa, r.f, Fori Qn - cne pi ice. I7IOR SALE AT STONifPOINT THREE ; miles Irom llavers raw, on the lludsan, dtveili g hr - nse, 12 rornis; trardtlur's aouso, larc burn a - . - d otlier OB'btiotllngf; lOJi ut - refl of lmd, well cultivated: stono Willis: splendid o. - cli r;; averythlna la line order: within CHsyohluwe oi the. steamboat luniliugs: rurniture.stoc'e, nnd f ii mini! implements also lor Sole. W - lt beexcha - ueu for'proi e - tt;. iu Proot - lyo. rrict - low; terms easy. Apply to A. .1. Hi KaCKBIi. SOS' CO .17 (in - iftr t.. M. y.. or to HKIIsSUt & SlOUl'ENBUltO'JUU, l.V) Mmtatruo st brooklyp. fenitn" BtOR SALE PfSOIsP it CT PARKPRl3"P - 111TY. The lii - st opp - ruiiil v P - 1 - an i:iv - tnio;it ever offered to the public. 78 ACHES' OF LAND, boti' d - ed by CHy LP e on tin; north, Clove lioad ou tlte east, Laf t Ni k York avenue on the sotit'j, aad l - 'latbush are - iitte i n the west; iu tlu - imni. - di it vicinity of the P - irk, outside of the - City Ltir.it; free tro.il City taxation tor 1 irk or oth - r pnrpoee - z; ivitl nesold in elii pircel. If d - - .3lred, at i?jv 0 per acre. Apply to W. A. COlf, 4 Piuo it, N. i fcir.ot' HOUSES 'JTO I.ET. nhO LET - A HOUSK PARTIALLY FUR - JL 1 - islif d, near fc - Gin'n ferry; rent boarded out: re lew hoiirUcis who are In tlie t ouse - will remain; a good cp - pcrlv,nitv for u person who bus sonic furniture." Ad.lr. - ss Y. v., Ka.ale offlce. fcis if rH LET BASEMENT, 2D AND 3D Ji. tlcoi s in the brick bulldlne corner of Fulton and Ctsr.btrn sti; suitable ror tnaiiuftcturiiig purposis room ai tl slt - Lni power lnE. 0.;ul2o lion - ; - - mi l bus in al) pnrts o" Piooi.lin for rale. Appiv to l - 'OSTlil: & M i - lLVAllf. 4 Sands ;t. Brooklyn. rjpO LET STORE AND DWELL ING7ON JL Myrtle ave No. 110 to lot from 1st of Alay next. Air jilv at .12 Aiontiiguest. Cell - 21' wo lit ior iiTmijFivmitiNa purposes, thrcc - jtory hrlofc building, with ct - tlar, SOxSTfi - et, Kos. SIS ana 217 Stato street, or If desired the building would he enlaret - .d and power f:irIsh, - d. Apply to Js.ll. I'AY.ou the premises. rei; 0t nno let - house and storeon one B el'tlic best business locations iu ilie upper pm of tbe city; tine corner store Mid excellent houses, above; sultuliic f r a llrsi - i - lus - L'roce - ry or markol; posr.css.lou May 1. or soe - ntr if wished. V .V. COLBRON, 15 Ci - tes avc, tear Fulton. TO LET A NIGEL Y E tTRN ISHED ficor, yl.b all cnnv - . - uleacs for houseteei - piny: ivth v atcr and gas. Apply at .No. 70 Cumberland sc. ii - S7 2t motET - A ROW OF 8 HANDSOME JL new three - atory rhllatlo'pliln brick front houses la Vittidi rlii.t avenue - , betwoi n elus.iiii. - aad Park avenues, or n loch three will be finished hy March 1st, a'd live by Muv 1 - 1. 'lhe.y are built in r he bedt mniiiu'r, and w'th all modem improvements. ForftirthEi - information apply to THOMAS RAEhft. nmson.ln tl.e buildings, o - in B. BLANCO, 13 Soulh Wllham St. N.Y. f - - 17tlt rgO LET TWO BEAUTIFUL 3 - STORY Lafnvette aves.; havim; all the modern i anrovcmentg - mil in complete order: can he seen at any tlmoh applvio - ' at No. 211, same row. For terms, apply to 13. BLAJJHO, 11) South William street, New ork. Icl70f TO LEASE FOR BUSINESS - PURPOS - re;, the large Sslorynrick dwelling uousu '."3 At - lantlc tt. Apply en premises, lull sf f O LET FURNISHED HOUSE 63 REI - sen St. from ltt or Mav; In excellent order, and coi iile'elyfiirnished. WM. Si. VAIL,G1 liemsen.it. fel7 0t mo LJKF AWK'JS FilONX KOOM FUK - Jl - nlihed to two single gentleman on Fulton 81,'ivhh In 5 minute. - ' ivn'.K to the r - jrric6. Inquire in the trit k ttoi e, Fulton ave netir .111 st. fjl7 2l rglO LET f ROM MARCH 1ST, SECOND JL floor of 155 Elliott place to a small family: rent fa. Matt rar.d gas. fan If mo LET EROM MAY 1ST, A 3 - STORY B brick heme on the Heights In a "eslrub'c location, to a fandlv who woulo hoard a phyclclaa nrd wife. Apply Apply ntlU) Rcmsen s between tj undl) A. M., 2 anil J. Si., or in the evi - rlptr. fen mo LET FURJNlSsHED VAtiS OF THE JL flrst - clnssbitck liou - .e,.9'J:Carltoii ii'y, consisting ol 2 basemen Is, psnor floor, and 2 rooms on third floor; contains aU the modern improvements; is lnpcifcot re - r. atr, excellent cellar nnd ydrd: location good within 20 minutes' of Fulton, Wall st.or south ferrleshy three car routes; rent to a smalt family T) per montU; possession 1st of Mayor Eoonor if desired. Call for 1 days between 1 nnd B. fe27 - it' TO LET FURNISHED HOUSE, BRICK, 8 - story and bestnuem: with alt modem tniorove - mei.ts, Including hurglar alarm telegraph; m minutes trotu terry; rent $125 per month; posscssio.i May 1 t. or tt le - wr - ais sooner if rcsired; or will rent house and sel' the furniture at alow figure. Adorees E. S, D., Eagle oilloe. re 1 7 Of TO I.ET A FLOOR OI? FIVE RO M3, unfornlshed, wish gas and water, 35 Dnuglam st, Bouth Brooklyn: fc7 2t - MiW pin o Tj e t a furnished" frame JL house irom 1st of Muy lioxt, w a b nail family, ou reafonaMo tennr; Toc.Vion (Je6lrali!t? antj convcnlcn1; to cars. Apply ot aib Kyeuon st, near niton avj. lenvv nn6 LET - TWO FURNISHED HOSE, JL ncir Dr, Dnrypji'a i cw church, toe Cil and ;0 Pino fel - Z WO LET A FIRST CLASS FIAKO TO JL let chrap to n jiuaon tiHcu good carocf ii. or Tor sale ty Icstalmcnti?, Kc6St. Felix sc, near DjKiId avc SAVE YOUR RENT 500 TO 1,500 c - fu nnd Imlance on term. - ! aooat cqualt j pnylng rem wil'lniy a house nc3r cars ana improving ioc.iUt: f'icliouFe with rtfUmproYPmcnts. Anp'y forcaoons. of E. H, UABCOCKjCur. of Cut nndMontftgUQ (,

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